Re: 3.8x:Bug:Small undo bug
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:17:25 -0400 GMT (27/07/2006, 04:17 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V>>> The text is not removed, only the cursor is moved into a new V>>> position. A second Ctrl+Z is required to remove the text. >> Confirmed with MicroEd, the other editors show normal behaviour. V> Reported: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5951 Confirmed. I believe it was always been like this, not only since 3.8x. Added bugnote. -- Cheers, Thomas. Regular naps prevent old age. especially if you take them while driving. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.11 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: From names including a dot between brackets [] are not managed correctly
Hello Hendrik, On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:20:35 +1100 GMT (27/07/2006, 06:20 +0700 GMT), Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: HO> Create new massage with From address like HO> Name [text.du] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HO> Save this message in outbox HO> The message source contains HO> From: Name [text\.du] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Old bug. I think it's not only the dot that is escaped. I don't know whether there is a bugreport; I'll support it with a bugnote. By the way, workaround: Put the whole Realname into quotation marks. -- Cheers, Thomas. 100 000 Muenchner koennen Deutsche werden. * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.11 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
No line breaks in Update window (was: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available)
Hello NetVicious, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:53:43 +0200 GMT (27/07/2006, 03:53 +0700 GMT), NetVicious wrote: N> In 3.81.11 Interactive mode update window doesn't shows correctly the N> line breaks. Confirmed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Wachskerzen wachsen gar nicht, sondern werden im Gegenteil immer kleiner. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.11 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: "Yes" to download in Notification box not working [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available]
Hello Mary, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:02:20 -0500 GMT (27/07/2006, 03:02 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB> To test the Update Notification "download now - yes" in v. 3.81.11, I MB> closed TB! and relaunched it, in order to see the Notification MB> Dialogue Box announcing v. 3.81.12. I don't have a "Yes" button, I have a "Download" button. I clicked on it, and browser opened and tried to download the .rar file, which caused Download Accelerator to open, which is now downloading the file while I'm typing this. Annoying: The Notification dialog box in TB (the one with the "Download" button) doesn't close; I had to close it manually to be able to continue working in TB 3.81.11 Beta. -- Cheers, Thomas. My old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next!" They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.81.11 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Charlene, Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 10:26:49 PM, you wrote: >> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction > To be clear: I clicked on the tab "insert smile" right of the text > formatting symbols. Inserted a smiley with no problem. > BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any > visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as > the mouse holds and moves the bar. Could scroll without a problem either. -- Best regards, Cristinamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
From names including a dot between brackets [] are not managed correctly
Hello List, Create new massage with From address like Name [text.du] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Save this message in outbox The message source contains From: Name [text\.du] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you try to add the sender's address by context menu to the Address book, the backslash "\" is included in the address book entry. If you re-open the message for editing, the from address shows the backslash "\". See attached eml as example. -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.80.06 and Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.1.0.1 on Windows 2000--- Begin Message --- Body of the message--- End Message --- Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hallo Charlene, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:26:49 +0200GMT (26-7-2006, 23:26 , where I live), you wrote: >> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction Confirmed. Tried it several times, sometimes I'm getting a repetitive: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 7265736E. Read of address 7265736E. --- OK --- It's the same AV every time. And sometimes it's going just fine CF> To be clear: I clicked on the tab "insert smile" right of the text CF> formatting symbols. So did I. And I believe it's not the act of inserting a smiley, but it's the act of scrolling through the available smileys. CF> BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any CF> visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as CF> the mouse holds and moves the bar. Confirmed too. -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The number of calls to tech support before you can get it to run http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpMSg8JFzwkN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hello Charlene, Thursday, July 27, 2006, 12:26:49 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): >> Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction The first time I tried it the Bat seemed to stall. After a few seconds I retried it and the smilies selection dialog came up. :bounce-cloud: -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Hi Charlene Ferrara, Wednesday, July 26, 2006 you let us know -possibly edited- : > Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction To be clear: I clicked on the tab "insert smile" right of the text formatting symbols. BTW: moving the scroll bar in the opening smileys box does not have any visible effect on the icons there: they stay and won't scroll as long as the mouse holds and moves the bar. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.8x:Bug:Small undo bug
Hello Roelof, V>> The text is not removed, only the cursor is moved into a new V>> position. A second Ctrl+Z is required to remove the text. > Confirmed with MicroEd, the other editors show normal behaviour. Reported: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5951 -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta -inserting smileys
Dear List members, I had a one-time-issue with this version: Inserting a "smile" caused a heavy malfunction, consisting of several half-drawn error messages that could not be read properly, because TB closed itself within seconds. I noticed that in the background something was going on, the monitor flickered a lot. The second attempt to do so was successful indeed, no further trouble, so I insert my smile here ==> :) Dev. team may want to have an eye on attached except.log. -- Best wishes Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Running 8 accounts POP, 1 IMAP [-] Plugins, ext. Macros, PGP, customisation [+] 3 Virtual Folders, Common Folders, OTFE, adapted View Mode except-excerpt.rar Description: Binary data Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
v3.81.x:Bug:MAPI
> [*] Bettertransportprotocol logging for Exchange (MAPI) > connections. Maybe it started earlier: when periodic mail check is used and TB! cannot connect to MAPI server, the task will be stuck in the CC. So, if my TB! cannot connect to the Exchange server overnight because of the server is down, by morning I have hundreds of Connecting to Exchange server or similar item in my CC... How to try: e.g. unplug the network cable and try to connect to the MAPI server... (Timeout problem?) -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.8x:Bug:Small undo bug
Hello Feli, V>> Steps to reproduce the bug: V>> 1. Create a new message. V>> 2. paste some text into it. V>> 3. press Ctrl+Z (or Edit/Undo) V>> The text is not removed, only the cursor is moved into a new V>> position. A second Ctrl+Z is required to remove the text. > I cannot confirm totally. Ctrl+Z works as it should but Edit/Undo > generates strange characters in front of the pasted text. I used MicroEd, which editor did you use? -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available
miércoles, 26 jul 2006 at 21:34, it seems you wrote: > The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ In 3.81.11 Interactive mode update window doesn't shows correctly the line breaks. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: BayesIt! 0.8.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Last 24 hour Spam% it's 0% Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available
Hallo Jim, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:49:06 -0400GMT (26-7-2006, 21:49 , where I live), you wrote: JB> Up and running with 5 POP accounts No OTFE... JB> JB> -- And with a bad cutsign. -- Groetjes, Roelof It is dangerous to confuse children with angels. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpBD9GcyA75e.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.8x:Bug:Small undo bug
Hallo Vili, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:49:32 -0400GMT (26-7-2006, 20:49 , where I live), you wrote: V> The text is not removed, only the cursor is moved into a new V> position. A second Ctrl+Z is required to remove the text. Confirmed with MicroEd, the other editors show normal behaviour. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 003: Dynamic linking error - Your mistake is now in every file http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpbX0vWOEAAi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:34 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Up and running fine, Pro version but OTFE not enabled. (2 POP3 accounts only.) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.12 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
"Yes" to download in Notification box not working [was Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available]
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:34 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ To test the Update Notification "download now - yes" in v. 3.81.11, I closed TB! and relaunched it, in order to see the Notification Dialogue Box announcing v. 3.81.12. Still nothing happens, as described in BT http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5938 I shall now download and install v. 3.81.12 from the link on the TBBETA announcement. Of course, I can't test for this minor bug with v, 3.81.12 until The Bat! offers me the beta after .12 in the Notification Dialogue. Just wanted to mention that the "Yes" button still isn't fixed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.81.11 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 1:34:38 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Running fine here. WinXP and OTFE. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons & Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Procrastinators UNITE... tomorrow. Current beta is 3.81.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available
Hi 9Val, > The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available from: Up and running with 5 POP accounts No OTFE... -- Best Regards, Jim Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available
Hello All, The Bat! 3.81.12 Beta is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] The option "bind attachments only while sending out mail" could cause The Bat! to send messages with 0-sized attachments if the files were held by another applications (locked) or deleted since the user have attached the files but before sending them out. [*] Submission Form editing buttons in the "Preferences" dialog will be invisible unless you use /EDIT_SUBMISSION_FORMS command line parameter. [+] The Bat! now keeps associations between recipient emails and certificates for encryption also for S/MIME Internal Implementation. Previously, this have been done only for signing, not for encryption in S/MIME Internal Implementation. However, in CryptoAPI Implementation, both signing and encryption certificates were associated with emails. [+] "Autosubmit" option in Submission Forms. [*] Bettertransportprotocol logging for Exchange (MAPI) connections. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.8x:Bug:Small undo bug
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:49:32 -0400GMT Vili wrote: V> Steps to reproduce the bug: V> 1. Create a new message. V> 2. paste some text into it. V> 3. press Ctrl+Z (or Edit/Undo) V> The text is not removed, only the cursor is moved into a new V> position. A second Ctrl+Z is required to remove the text. I cannot confirm totally. Ctrl+Z works as it should but Edit/Undo generates strange characters in front of the pasted text. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.81.11 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.8x:Bug:Small undo bug
Hello tbbeta, It is really a small issue: Steps to reproduce the bug: 1. Create a new message. 2. paste some text into it. 3. press Ctrl+Z (or Edit/Undo) The text is not removed, only the cursor is moved into a new position. A second Ctrl+Z is required to remove the text. Came from a user... -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: Help for a plugin!!
Hello NetVicious, >> Again, sorry that this off thread appeared on the list. > If my memory it's ok, i think it exists a list for this. It's called > TBDEV. It was meant to be a private conversation with 9Val... and I messed up. -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: Help for a plugin!!
Hello NetVicious, >> Again, sorry that this off thread appeared on the list. > If my memory it's ok, i think it exists a list for this. It's called > TBDEV. It was meant to be a private conversation with 9Val. -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Very little list activity
Hello Ian A. White & everyone else, on 26-Jul-2006 at 01:37 you (Ian A. White) wrote: > Is there some problem? The current temperatures, at least in Germany, are not exactly inspiring one to sit in front of the PC. Most of the time. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If it ain't broke, fix it till it is. Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: Help for a plugin!!
miércoles, 26 jul 2006 at 13:02, it seems you wrote: > Again, sorry that this off thread appeared on the list. If my memory it's ok, i think it exists a list for this. It's called TBDEV. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.81.11 Beta Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: BayesIt! 0.8.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Last 24 hour Spam% it's 0% Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Help for a plugin!!
Hello 9Val, V>> question. So far, NOBODY was able to answer. Everybody just sent me V>> the same exact, NOT FORM using samples... > One example just sent in PM. Got it and many thanks!!! Now everything is clear and now I understand why a simple form1.show did not work. More in PM. For Alexey (N. Vinogradov): the form must be created dinamically, what I tried, but that did not work for some reason: when I added the plugin, it could not be initialized. Anyway, thanks for everybody! -- Vili Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Help for a plugin!!
Hello Vili, V> question. So far, NOBODY was able to answer. Everybody just sent me V> the same exact, NOT FORM using samples... One example just sent in PM. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Help for a plugin!!
Hello Alexey, >>> Your plugin should export TBP_NeedConfig, TBP_Setup functions. First >>> should return non-zero value if plugin could be configured and the >>> second one returns zero if the setup finished successfully. V>> That is clear for me. But HOW is it possible to display a TForm V>> NOONE could answer it yet... I asked the MyMacro author, he sent me V>> the code of 1.07, but that does not display a form, asked him for the V>> 1.11, no answer for that > brrr... What is the question? Just make TBPneedconfig and TBPsetup functions. > and... which TForm you are going to display? AFAIK it is simple - may be using > method "show".. (sorry, I work in C++, not Delphi - so, only thoughts). > Feel free to ask questions directly. Subscribe to plugin's developers list > (). > You also may look on two plugin's examples: > On Delphi: > http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/tbptest.zip > On C++: > http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/testplug.zip First of all: it was a private conversation with 9Val, sorry, one of us answered to the other's list address. So, I did not want to appear this thread here. Just to clear my resume: I consider myself an advanced Delphi programmer, also studied some test TBPs before I wrote such a "lame" question. So far, NOBODY was able to answer. Everybody just sent me the same exact, NOT FORM using samples... I can write a plugin that works, no problem, but not mine and not other's that have sample code at me DISPLAYS any forms... Yes, that is TForm.Show(modal) that would show a form, but that does not work, that was the first I tried ca. a half a week ago. The plugin just does not initialize right if that contains a Form1.Show function... Again, sorry that this off thread appeared on the list. -- Vili The Bat 3.81.04 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.81.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/