Re[3]: Broken Exchange send

2008-08-15 Thread DiRTy GaRRy
Title: Re[3]: Broken Exchange send




Hi,

Friday, August 15, 2008, 10:47:46 PM, you wrote:

OV> Здравствуйте, Oleg.

OV> Вы писали 15 августа 2008 г., 21:45:04:

>>> With the newest release, I cannot send emails using MAPI (Exchange).
>>> Went back to an older one, it works.

OV> sorry, it was not for you

OV> what doesn't work in "newest release"?

       Вы вообще читаете багтрекер? Там висит блок баг для одной из последних бет, а никто до релиза даже и не почесался.

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Re[3]: Broken Exchange send

2008-08-15 Thread Vili
>>> With the newest release, I cannot send emails using MAPI (Exchange).
>>> Went back to an older one, it works.
> what doesn't work in "newest release"?

Read the text. Cannot send emails from an Exchange account.

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Re: Unread tab (was: 4.0.28.1)

2008-08-15 Thread Rick
> Hello Robert,

> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:19:13 +0200 GMT (15/08/2008, 18:19 +0700 GMT),
> Robert van der Hulst wrote:

 Cannot confirm this. Click on the header of the folderlist to undo the
 sorting (until the arrows disappear). 

>>> Please go re-read the Bug Report at
>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 --- specifically, the
>>> numerous comments which have been left by others since you initially
>>> made the report. I am by no means the only tester who has been
>>> repeatedly bringing this bug to the programmers' attention.

RvdH>> Ok. Now I see what you mean.

RvdH>> I am using the smartspace feature to mark messages as read. When you
RvdH>> use that and mark the last message in a folder as read, then the focus
RvdH>> goes to the correct next folder in the list, even though the folder
RvdH>> with no unread messages goes to the bottom of the list.

> I see why this is not a problem for you. However, it is serious enough
> for me (and others) to stay with 3.99.x in the office, hence a
> show-stopper.

It is a major problem. I was reading with the smart space. Last
message in the top (unread) folder which moved to the bottom. It
should stay on the top until you leave the view otherwise it is not
very useful at all

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Re[2]: Broken Exchange send

2008-08-15 Thread Oleg Vasenyoff
Здравствуйте, Oleg.

Вы писали 15 августа 2008 г., 21:45:04:

>> With the newest release, I cannot send emails using MAPI (Exchange).
>> Went back to an older one, it works.

sorry, it was not for you

what doesn't work in "newest release"?

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Re: Broken Exchange send

2008-08-15 Thread Oleg Vasenyoff
Здравствуйте, Vili.

Вы писали 15 августа 2008 г., 19:47:19:

> With the newest release, I cannot send emails using MAPI (Exchange).
> Went back to an older one, it works.

ты имеешь в виду, все никак с exchange не разберусь?

да послал я уже баб своих, задолбали

надо будет - сами найдут, когда вспомнят, что 1 сентября

я сделал тебе розетку с выключателем, как ты просил

я сегодня нашел вроде бы одну еще мелочь - кажется, программа не
инициализирует размер шрифта для Address Auto-View
то есть у меня там был вааще какой-то муравьиный помет, пока я не залез и не 
выставил
размер фонта явно, допустим, в 8 кегль, то есть там вообще он не был
выбран в этом диалоге


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Re: HTML strange rendering

2008-08-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Damien,

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:51:21 +0200 GMT (15/08/2008, 12:51 +0700 GMT),
Damien wrote:

D> I have a problem with the french zdnet newsletter (attached to this
D> mail).

D> In the section "Sur les blogs de ZDNet.fr", at the end of the letter,
D> the font width explode.

Confirmed with the message you attached.

D> There is no such problem in outlook.

I wouldn't know.

D> I am under Vista SP1 (Ultimate)
D> The Bat Beta (RC) 4.0.28.1

Windows XP SP2 over here.

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Unread tab (was: 4.0.28.1)

2008-08-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Robert,

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:19:13 +0200 GMT (15/08/2008, 18:19 +0700 GMT),
Robert van der Hulst wrote:

>>> Cannot confirm this. Click on the header of the folderlist to undo the
>>> sorting (until the arrows disappear). 

>> Please go re-read the Bug Report at
>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 --- specifically, the
>> numerous comments which have been left by others since you initially
>> made the report. I am by no means the only tester who has been
>> repeatedly bringing this bug to the programmers' attention.

RvdH> Ok. Now I see what you mean.

RvdH> I am using the smartspace feature to mark messages as read. When you
RvdH> use that and mark the last message in a folder as read, then the focus
RvdH> goes to the correct next folder in the list, even though the folder
RvdH> with no unread messages goes to the bottom of the list.

I see why this is not a problem for you. However, it is serious enough
for me (and others) to stay with 3.99.x in the office, hence a
show-stopper.

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Broken Exchange send

2008-08-15 Thread Vili
With the newest release, I cannot send emails using MAPI (Exchange).
Went back to an older one, it works.

Please  Ritlabs:  have  a list of features that you go thru before you
release  a  version.  It  is  not  a  beta tester's job to catch these
problems...  (Email  client.  Can download mails: yes. Can send mails:
no. Why do you call it an email client?)

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Re: MSI

2008-08-15 Thread Albrecht Backhaus
Maxim Masiutin schrieb:
> Hello Tbbeta,
> 
> Please also check the MSI files:
> 
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-28.msi
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-28.msi
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-28.msi
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/intpack_pro_4-0-28.msi
> 
> 
readme.txt from pro-version refers to 4.0.26. Should be updated.

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Re: MSI

2008-08-15 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,

> Please also check the MSI files:
>
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-28.msi

Custom install (only Core) fine. And, so far, no showstoppers here.

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Re: 4.0.28.1

2008-08-15 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi DVM,
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, at 06:03:36 [GMT -0500] (which was 13:03 where I live) 
you wrote about: '4.0.28.1'

>> Cannot confirm this. Click on the header of the folderlist to undo the
>> sorting (until the arrows disappear). 

> Please go re-read the Bug Report at
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 --- specifically, the
> numerous comments which have been left by others since you initially
> made the report. I am by no means the only tester who has been
> repeatedly bringing this bug to the programmers' attention.

Ok. Now I see what you mean.

I am using the smartspace feature to mark messages as read. When you
use that and mark the last message in a folder as read, then the focus
goes to the correct next folder in the list, even though the folder
with no unread messages goes to the bottom of the list.

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Re[2]: 4.0.28.1

2008-08-15 Thread Morton A. Goldberg, DVM
Hi, Robert ---

Friday, August 15, 2008, 2:13:33 AM, you wrote:


> Cannot confirm this. Click on the header of the folderlist to undo the
> sorting (until the arrows disappear). 


Please go re-read the Bug Report at
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 --- specifically, the
numerous comments which have been left by others since you initially
made the report. I am by no means the only tester who has been
repeatedly bringing this bug to the programmers' attention.

Please pay special attention to comment (0021446) by tomtpe on 26 Mar
2008 17:17, in which he said in part:

"Also, when all messages in one folder are read, the order changes
again. I have the feeling that the folder with now no unread messages
jumps to the bottom. This again messes up the order, it is not as it in
All tab.

"The request was to make the order the same as under the All tab. It's
not fixed, IMHO. If it is, it is not apparent to me, and certainly not
as intuitive to a new user as was in the previous implementation."

I then added another note confirming his observation, (0021483) by
Morton A. Goldberg, DVM on 27 Mar 2008 20:57, in which I stated,

"I see exactly what tomtpe means. Problem is that when contents of one
folder have all been read, the old behavior was to un-bold the folder
label, but leave the folder in place. Now, the folder label is un-bolded
as before, but in addition, the folder jumps all the way to the bottom
of the stack, making it necessary to scroll all the way up to its old
location in order to resume where you left off. Very annoying, and I
hope you can restore the old behavior exactly as it used to be."

A few weeks later, Pat added this comment, (0021649) by Pat on
16 Apr 2008 06:38, confirming both of the previous observations:

"Please fix so that when in Unread folder tab, deleting or reading all
messages in a folder does not make the folder jump to the bottom of the
folder list, forcing the user to find his place again in the list."

In addition to the comments in the Bug Report, there has been a bit of
discussion of the problem on this list. This exchange took place on 12
July 2008:

>From Thomas Fernandez in reply to a post from Stefan:

"On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:09:51 +0300 GMT (11/07/2008, 22:09 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

TF>> Honestly, has the Unread Tab been fixed?

ST> What's the problem with the Unread Tab? It works OK for me...

Not here, I just checked:

1. Any folder in which all the unread messages have been read, jumps
to the bottom. This shouldn't happen - the order should be maintained.
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 "

>From Mark Partous in reply to Thomas:

"Which is not a big problem when there are only a few folders in which
there are unread messages, but becomes pretty annoying when there are
more than can be listed on one screen (whithout scrolling, that is)."

>From Thomas in reply to Mark:

"The reason I depend heavily on the Unread Tab in the office is that
there are well over 100 folders, so scrolling would be necessary. The
introduction of the Unread Tab increased efficiency tremendously, as
only the folders with unread messages are shown. However, if there is
any "jumping around" and the folders don't stay on the order as in the
All view, the purpose is completely defeated. I am using 3.99.x in the
office until the behaviour of the Unread Tab is back to what it was in
that version. The current behaviour is a show-stopper for 4.x in the
office for me, despite all the other new goodies."

That last comment by Thomas expresses my view perfectly. I, too, have
well over 100 folders in my tree, and find the new behavior to be a
show-stopper.

Unlike Thomas, I have not dropped back to 3.99.x, because I am now
retired and no longer feel the time pressure I did while running a
veterinary practice. However, if I were still in practice, I would
almost certainly stop using the beta releases until this problem is
fixed.  

I cannot imagine anyone with a large number of folders being satisfied
with the present behavior, particularly if they are upgrading from a
previous version in which the "Unread" folders stayed put, but became
"un-bolded," once all of their contents were read. If this problem is
not fixed before the forthcoming release, RITLabs should be prepared for
a deluge of complaints from disgruntled users.


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Re: 4.0.28.1

2008-08-15 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi DVM,
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, at 21:03:39 [GMT -0500] (which was 4:03 where I live) 
you wrote about: '4.0.28.1'

>  There is one showstopper which has been reported many times before over
>  the past 7 months, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632
>  (0006632: Impossible to use folder list sort order from 'All' on
>  'Unread' tab).

>  With its present behavior, the "Unread" folder view is difficult and
>  awkward to use. Whenever the last unread message in a folder is opened,
>  that folder jumps to the bottom of the list, forcing the user to scroll
>  upward through the entire list in order to find his place.

>  Please restore the old behavior, in which the folder remains in the
>  same place, but its name is unbolded. That simple change would make the
>  "Unread" view far more useful and user-friendly than the present
>  implementation.

Cannot confirm this. Click on the header of the folderlist to undo the
sorting (until the arrows disappear). 


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Re: MSI

2008-08-15 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Maxim,
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, at 20:52:39 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:52 where I live) 
you wrote about: 'MSI'

> Please also check the MSI files:

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-28.msi

Up and Running.

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