Re: 4.1.14.1

2009-05-25 Thread Francis Dhumes
Hello,

Friday, May 22, 2009 at 22:18:44, Hendrik wrote :
HO F11 and F2 is broken

I can confirm on WIndows XP SP3. In options/preferences, the system
hotkeys are all reset to none.
This did not happend on my Vista SP1 computer.
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Re: 4.1.14.1

2009-05-25 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Monday, May 25, 2009, Francis Dhumes wrote:

 Friday, May 22, 2009 at 22:18:44, Hendrik wrote :
HO F11 and F2 is broken

 I can confirm on WIndows XP SP3. In options/preferences, the system
 hotkeys are all reset to none.
 This did not happend on my Vista SP1 computer.

no problem here with WinXP SP3 CZ, all system hotkeys are untouched

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AV when Windows tries to shut down.

2009-05-25 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello All,

I  normally  run  with  TB minimised to the tray and if my computer has been
running  for more than a very brief time when I command Windows to shut down
I get the AV shown below.  If I close TB first there is no problem.

I  raised  this matter several versions ago but got only one confirmation.  
Can any others confirm before I create a bug report?

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Application Error
---
Exception EThreadListLeak in module thebat.exe at 0006CE10.

Resource leak: 27 instance(s) of TInterfaceList left
Caller addresses listed below: 
  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0
  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0
  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0
  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0
  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0  007090C0
  0070A4C2  0070A4C2.  

---


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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-25 Thread Axel Finger
The new Scan Engine 6.01.05 from Norman also detects thebat.exe as a
virus...

As written before: I put thebat.exe in the Exclusion List of Norman
Antivirus until next .exe or engine update.


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 Freitag, 22. Mai 2009 at 19:42, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 I understand what you say, but for the user, Thunderbird, Eudora or
 even Outlook don't have this problem that TB! has.

 Thunderbird is OpenSource
 Eudora i do not know - free for personal use?
 Outlook is included in Office

 But other Mailclients must have Software Protection against piracy.
 I do understand that, what i do not understand is, that Themida does
 not give their stuff to AV Vendors, that it is scanned to be ok.




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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Axel,

On Mon, 25 May 2009 17:12:17 +0200 GMT (25/May/09, 22:12 +0700 GMT),
Axel Finger wrote:

Thanks for your top-posting.

AF The new Scan Engine 6.01.05 from Norman also detects thebat.exe as a
AF virus...

Too bad. Not for me, but for Ritlabs. They try to make a living out of
this software, I understand.

AF As written before: I put thebat.exe in the Exclusion List of Norman
AF Antivirus until next .exe or engine update.

What a user-unfriendly thing to say something like that. People who
download the software and have any kind of AV software running, will
just abandon the attempt of trying TB!. People who are using TB! and
suddenly get hit and lose their ability to access their mail, will not
forget it.

Not my problem, but Ritlabs'. It is really up to them to fix it, if
they want. If they don't want to and make sufficient profit for their
survival otherwise, it is up to them. Not my problem really, all we
can do on this list is to report in order to help.

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-25 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

AF As written before: I put thebat.exe in the Exclusion List of Norman
AF Antivirus until next .exe or engine update.

 What a user-unfriendly thing to say something like that. People who
 download the software and have any kind of AV software running, will
 just abandon the attempt of trying TB!. People who are using TB! and
 suddenly get hit and lose their ability to access their mail, will not
 forget it.

 Not my problem, but Ritlabs'. It is really up to them to fix it, if
 they want. If they don't want to and make sufficient profit for their
 survival otherwise, it is up to them. Not my problem really, all we
 can do on this list is to report in order to help.

You are right, at least partially. But can you trust an antivirus that 
reports false positives? I use NOD32 and never had this problem.

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-25 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Monday, May 25, 2009, MAU wrote:

 You are right, at least partially. But can you trust an antivirus that
 reports false positives? I use NOD32 and never had this problem.

Miguel, every AV was and will be affected by false positives, NOD32 had
false positive in thebat.exe one year ago. BTW in this case, Adobe Acrobat
was incorrectly detected too...

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Re: 4.1.14.1

2009-05-25 Thread Rick
 Hello all,
 Monday, May 25, 2009, Francis Dhumes wrote:

 Friday, May 22, 2009 at 22:18:44, Hendrik wrote :
HO F11 and F2 is broken

 I can confirm on WIndows XP SP3. In options/preferences, the system
 hotkeys are all reset to none.
 This did not happend on my Vista SP1 computer.

 no problem here with WinXP SP3 CZ, all system hotkeys are untouched

Same here

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-25 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


M But can you trust an antivirus that reports false positives? 

Once again, this is not a false positive. The scanner engine detects
that it can't properly check an executable, and it is rightfully
reporting this failure to the user. There's nothing wrong on the part
of the scanner.

The fault lies entirely on RIT. They chose a certain strategy, and
this is the result.


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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-25 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Monday, May 25, 2009, Alto Speckhardt wrote:

M But can you trust an antivirus that reports false positives?

 Once again, this is not a false positive. The scanner engine detects
 that it can't properly check an executable, and it is rightfully
 reporting this failure to the user. There's nothing wrong on the part
 of the scanner.

removing file is not correct behaviour, if scanner can't check the file.

What will be next? Antivir will format drive if partition can't be
checked?

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Using the best The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1)
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Delayed sending totally broken in this release

2009-05-25 Thread Rick
Has anyone else noticed that delayed sending seems totally broken in this 
release? (4.1.14.1)

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discovering that she looks like a haddock. - John Barrymore

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Re: 4.1.14.1

2009-05-25 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Marek Mikus wrote on 25/05/2009 at 19:03:22 +1100 
subject 4.1.14.1 :

 Hello all,
 Monday, May 25, 2009, Francis Dhumes wrote:

 Friday, May 22, 2009 at 22:18:44, Hendrik wrote :
HO F11 and F2 is broken

 I can confirm on WIndows XP SP3. In options/preferences, the system
 hotkeys are all reset to none.
 This did not happend on my Vista SP1 computer.

 no problem here with WinXP SP3 CZ, all system hotkeys are untouched

I have an french WinXP SP3, and I suspect that Francis has also the
french version, as his email address ends with .fr

Anybody else here with french Windows XP?

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Re: lost tb as virus

2009-05-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek,

On Mon, 25 May 2009 23:13:02 +0200 GMT (26/May/09, 4:13 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

M But can you trust an antivirus that reports false positives?

 Once again, this is not a false positive. The scanner engine detects
 that it can't properly check an executable, and it is rightfully
 reporting this failure to the user. There's nothing wrong on the part
 of the scanner.

MM removing file is not correct behaviour, if scanner can't check the file.

The correct way is to let the AV scan the file, so I agree with Alto.
And you cannot instruct the user how to set their AV if they want to
install an email-client.

MM What will be next? Antivir will format drive if partition can't be
MM checked?

AV software will be useless if developers choose to make their
software unscannable. Users will just stop using AV software or - more
likely - choose software that does not cause any problems with the AV
scanner.

Do you really expect the average user to tweak their computer and AV
scanner before installing The Bat!? Don't you think they will rather
choose another email software?

Do you think they will be happy to hear that it is their own fault if
TB! has been deleted after they updated their virus scaner?

Just asking. I wonder why you think this is acceptable.

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