Re: Voyager 8.5.0.1
Hello Luca, >> > Please try Voyager 8.5.0.1: >> > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-8-5-0-1.exe >> Btw, which Antispam plugin can be used with Voyager? Antispamsniper >> is not accepted as a plugin. > It should work, I've always been using Antispamsniper with Voyager. Already got here the hint that only the 32 bit version of ASS works with Voyager. And because I for many years only had the 65 bit at my PC, I even did not think of the 32 bit version at my 64 bit tablet. :-) -- Kind regards, Gunivortus The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 8.5.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 17134 NordVPN vs. 6.11.12.0 Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager 8.5.0.1
Gunivortus Goos: > > Please try Voyager 8.5.0.1: > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-8-5-0-1.exe > > Installed and running fine so far. > Btw, which Antispam plugin can be used with Voyager? Antispamsniper > is not accepted as a plugin. It should work, I've always been using Antispamsniper with Voyager. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.6 MSI files
Hello Maxim, I received no such warning. I saw smartscreen.exe launch (in processes), then evaporate, which is normal behavior. All was really terribly "normal." -- Best regards, Curt Akin using TheBat! 8.5.6 under Windows 10.0 Build 17074 with HughesNet Gen5 satellite Internet. Sunday, July 8, 2018, 2:10:40 AM, you wrote: > Hello Curt, > Sunday, July 8, 2018, 8:33:25 AM, you wrote: >> U&R. No shutdown after send. > Did you receive the "SmartScreen" warning when you have installed this MSI? > I have found out that if a developer has a standard code signing > certificate, some time will be needed for the application to build > "trust" with the SmartScreen. Microsoft affirms that an Extended > Validation (EV) Code Signing Certificate allows to skip this period of trust > building. > https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/2012/08/14/microsoft-smartscreen-extended-validation-ev-code-signing-certificates/ > According to the information from the link, extended validation > certificates allow the developer to immediately establish reputation > with SmartScreen. Otherwise, the users will see a warning like > "Windows Defender Smartscreen prevented an unrecognized app from > starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.", with the two > buttons: "Run anyway" and "Don't run". > https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vsnetsetup/2013/01/09/windows-smartscreen-prevented-an-unrecognized-app-from-running-running-this-app-might-put-your-pc-at-risk/ > Another Microsoft resource from the second link (above) states the > following (quote): "Although not required, programs signed by an EV > code signing certificate can immediately establish reputation with > SmartScreen reputation services even if no prior reputation exists > for that file or publisher. EV code signing certificates also have a > unique identifier which makes it easier to maintain reputation across > certificate renewals." > My question is how long does it take for The Bat! new MSI files to > build "trust" with the Smartscreen? Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.6 MSI files
Hello Curt, Sunday, July 8, 2018, 8:33:25 AM, you wrote: > U&R. No shutdown after send. Did you receive the "SmartScreen" warning when you have installed this MSI? I have found out that if a developer has a standard code signing certificate, some time will be needed for the application to build "trust" with the SmartScreen. Microsoft affirms that an Extended Validation (EV) Code Signing Certificate allows to skip this period of trust building. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/2012/08/14/microsoft-smartscreen-extended-validation-ev-code-signing-certificates/ According to the information from the link, extended validation certificates allow the developer to immediately establish reputation with SmartScreen. Otherwise, the users will see a warning like "Windows Defender Smartscreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.", with the two buttons: "Run anyway" and "Don't run". https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vsnetsetup/2013/01/09/windows-smartscreen-prevented-an-unrecognized-app-from-running-running-this-app-might-put-your-pc-at-risk/ Another Microsoft resource from the second link (above) states the following (quote): "Although not required, programs signed by an EV code signing certificate can immediately establish reputation with SmartScreen reputation services even if no prior reputation exists for that file or publisher. EV code signing certificates also have a unique identifier which makes it easier to maintain reputation across certificate renewals." My question is how long does it take for The Bat! new MSI files to build "trust" with the Smartscreen? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.6 MSI files
Hello Ira, Sunday, July 8, 2018, 8:53:14 AM, you wrote: > Thank you so much, this fixes that most annoying problem. One of the most annying and hard-to-diagnose problem that we ever had. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.6 MSI files
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 10:02:35 PM, you wrote: > Problems of previous versions that arose after sending a > message should be resolved in 8.5.6. Please confirm. Thank you so much, this fixes that most annoying problem. -- Ira Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.6 MSI files
Hello Maxim, Yes, all appears well. -- Best regards, Curt Akin using TheBat! 8.5.6 under Windows 10.0 Build 17074 with HughesNet Gen5 satellite Internet. Sunday, July 8, 2018, 1:02:35 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-5-6.msi > Problems of previous versions that arose after sending a message > should be resolved in 8.5.6. Please confirm. Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.6 MSI files
Hello Curt, Sunday, July 8, 2018, 8:33:25 AM, you wrote: > U&R. No shutdown after send. Good news! Thank you! What a nasty trouble it was! -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.6 MSI files
Hello Maxim, U&R. No shutdown after send. -- Best regards, Curt Akin using TheBat! 8.5.6 under Windows 10.0 Build 17074 with HughesNet Gen5 satellite Internet. Sunday, July 8, 2018, 1:02:35 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-5-6.msi Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
8.5.6 MSI files
Please try 8.5.6 MSI files: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_32_8-5-6.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-5-6.msi Problems of previous versions that arose after sending a message should be resolved in 8.5.6. Please confirm. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
8.5.4.4
The Bat! 8.5.4.4 (BETA) is available at https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8544-32.rar https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8544-64.rar What's new in 8.5.4.4 since 8.5.4.3: [-] Fixed an error that could happen after sending a message - The Bat! could crash (and restart) Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.4.3
Title: Re: 8.5.4.3 Hello Ira, Sunday, July 8, 2018, 5:20:23 AM, you wrote: > Here it exits ever time I send a message and then automatically > re-starts. The only thing I can see in my messages folder that > changes is ex_log.txt which has this line in it: Thank you for the information. These lines about the language files were not very useful. Are you using any antivirus? Maybe The Bat! is not compatible with that antivirus? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.4.3
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 4:50:17 PM, you wrote: And yet more info. If the message is long, The Bat restarts, if the message is short, it doesn't seem to restart. No idea where short becomes long and changes the behavior. -- Ira Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.4.3
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 4:50:17 PM, you wrote: And now it's restarting by itself again without the beta first run message. -- Ira Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.4.3
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 4:50:17 PM, you wrote: Sorry for the duplication, I wanted to test something that just happened when I first sent this message. I tested it the first time when it showed the "are you willing to use beta version x.x.x" message. and every time it restarted automatically it showed that message again. After I quit and restarted it, it lets me send one message and then exits on the second one and does not automatically restart. -- Ira Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.4.3
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 4:50:17 PM, you wrote: I tested it the first time when it showed the "are you willing to use beta version x.x.x" message. and every time it restarted automatically it showed that message again. After I quit and restarted it, it lets me send one message and then exits on the second one and does not automatically restart. -- Ira Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.5.4.3
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 4:50:17 PM, you wrote: Here it exits ever time I send a message and then automatically re-starts. The only thing I can see in my messages folder that changes is ex_log.txt which has this line in it: v8.5.4.3 (BETA) 64-bit CAMARO/Ira_2 7/7/2018 7:07:41 PM.559 Language:File does not exist (C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.LNG) v8.5.4.3 (BETA) 64-bit CAMARO/Ira_2 7/7/2018 7:16:31 PM.767 Language:File does not exist (C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.LNG) -- Ira Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 9:52:32 PM, you wrote: > Does The Bat! shut down when send the message from the editor by pressing > "Send the message" toolbar button or the appropriate keyboard shortcut? IT does not matter. It shuts down very quickly - once the message is sent > How frequent does it happen (e.g. on each send, or in 50% cases, etc). 100% of the time. > Does The Bat! also exits abruptly if you first put a message to the Outbox > and then click "Send Queued Mail" from the main window toolbar (or the > appropriate keyboard shortcut)? No, if the message is put in the outbox, there is no shut down. However, once you send the message, it shuts down. Jerry -- Best regards, Ethanmailto:supp...@thedesk.ca Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
Hello Stuart, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 10:44:59 PM, you wrote: >> The program will send a message, then shut down and restart. >> It really does not matter which server is used. > I am seeing this behavior in 8.5.4 as well. Does The Bat! shut down when send the message from the editor by pressing "Send the message" toolbar button or the appropriate keyboard shortcut? How frequent does it happen (e.g. on each send, or in 50% cases, etc). Does The Bat! also exits abruptly if you first put a message to the Outbox and then click "Send Queued Mail" from the main window toolbar (or the appropriate keyboard shortcut)? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 7:35:47 PM, you wrote: > Are you using an antispam plugin? No I am not. Jerry -- Best regards, Ethanmailto:supp...@thedesk.ca Current beta is 8.5.4.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
8.5.4.3
The Bat! 8.5.4.3 (BETA) is available at https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8543-32.rar https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8543-64.rar What's new in 8.5.4.3 since 8.5.4.2: [*] When you run The Bat! with /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG command-line parameter, it will also log all calls to anti-spam plugins Current beta is 8.5.4.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
Hello Stuart, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 10:44:59 PM, you wrote: > I am seeing this behavior in 8.5.4 as well. Did you have a log file like ex_log.txt or TheBat64_Exceptions.log? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
Hello Ethan, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 9:05:52 PM, you wrote: > The program will send a message, then shut down and restart. Are you using an antispam plugin? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
Hello Ethan, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 1:05:52 PM, you wrote: > I have been using the this beta this morning. > The program will send a message, then shut down and restart. > It really does not matter which server is used. I am seeing this behavior in 8.5.4 as well. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 8.5.4.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4 MSI files
Hello Jim, Thank you for the warm words. How neat. We are eager to improve existing functionality rather then introducing new one. Should you let us know which of the old features are working not so good or not very intuitive, let us know so we could improve. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.5.4.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 9:34:04 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8542-64.rar > What's new in 8.5.4.2 since 8.5.4: > [!] "Zoom" in plain text editor and viewer (MicroEd) - you can change the > font size by Ctrl+MouseWheel I have been using the this beta this morning. The program will send a message, then shut down and restart. It really does not matter which server is used. jerry -- Best regards, Ethanmailto:supp...@thedesk.ca Current beta is 8.5.4.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
Hello Maxim, Saturday, July 7, 2018, 9:34:04 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8542-64.rar > What's new in 8.5.4.2 since 8.5.4: > [!] "Zoom" in plain text editor and viewer (MicroEd) - you can change the > font size by Ctrl+MouseWheel Confirmed. It works well in the plan text editor. Thank you. Jerry -- Best regards, Ethanmailto:supp...@thedesk.ca Current beta is 8.5.4.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA)
The Bat! 8.5.4.2 (BETA) is available at https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8542-32.rar https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8542-64.rar What's new in 8.5.4.2 since 8.5.4: [!] "Zoom" in plain text editor and viewer (MicroEd) - you can change the font size by Ctrl+MouseWheel There is no keyboard shortcut yet that would have allowed to do that without mouse. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Director Ritlabs, SRL www.ritlabs.com Current beta is 8.5.4.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
