Bug report
Mousewheel problems since some of betas: When message is opened in a separate window and I scroll message list with mousewheel, the message itself scrolls, too. That behaviour appears also in main screen sometimes (especially when scrolling log). And, of course, it is not a permanent behaviour, just flashy. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: The Bat deletes attachments
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Markus Gloede wrote: A message with an attachment exists twice in two separate folders (this not the problem but intentional), when one of it gets deleted (or moved?), the attachment gets lost. The account is set to store attachments in a separate folder and to delete messages when they are removed from the Trash. Could it be that when one copy of the message gets moved to the trash and deleted the Bat is not aware of a second copy existing and simply deletes the attachment? how should TB know, how many copies of message with same attachment You have? This problem can be solved for You, if You will have attachments in message bodies - attachment will be in each msgbase, where You will have such message. How? Do you know how a filesystem knows how many names a file has got? It has a reference counter. In TB case it could be a simple hash. I personally dislike TB's habit to duplicate attachments when they're the same files and attached to different letters... It also could be solved and it could save much diskspace, at least in my case, it would save up to 50% of the mailbox size. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Marking message as Read on server
Hello, 10 Jan 2002, 4:24:05 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: MM one user has set Dispatcher for account which displays new messages MM in mailbox on server. If he receives big message, he want to _not MM receive_ and _not delete_ and not see it in next session - so he MM checked _read_ flag for this message. MM But message is still displayed in next session. Why? Bug? Did he finish Dispatcher session normally (F2 or Execute or Start Transfer) or just closed it? Poor, but TB has a problem with this, really. I tried to use it, but it doesn't remember which messages it received and which not, and receives all of them, and not only new, etc. I had to reject this feature. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Beta-28 having some problems?
-a- when moving 2 postings manually from one folder to an other one it takes about 40 sec. No, no noticable delay In my case I've noticed a (subjective) decrease in speed of about 50% Try checking your temp folders. The Bat! could create numerous temporary files there and this delay could be caused by this. There was an accident. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Possible to Disable Security question ?
Hi ! Using Beta 28 I created a new shortcut for marking all messages read. The only unnecessary thing left over is the box popping up asking Do you really want... This is useless for me handling 30+ Folders. Is it possible to shut the feature down ? In a good program, especially such as a mail client, every notorious question (simply put - every) should be carrying don't ask this again ckeckbox. Look at OE, for example, they realize that, and they are Microsoft! By the way, OE interface looks much smoother and cleaner than The Bat!'s. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Possible to Disable Security question ?
On 14 January 2002 at 17:24 Anton wrote: In a good program, especially such as a mail client, every notorious question (simply put - every) should be carrying don't ask this again ckeckbox. Look at OE, for example, they realize that, and they are Microsoft! By the way, OE interface looks much smoother and cleaner than The Bat!'s. In a good program has an ... interesting implication ;) Why so? There are GOOD programs, and there are BAD programs :-) I agree, though; I hope that this sort of thing is coming up in version 2. Apart from that issue (warn once, then turn off if needed) there are some gross inconsistencies with warning and information popups. My favourite is Options | Preferences | Applications; the Associate ... button has no yes, I've done it popup but the ... Simple MAPI ... button below it has a yes, I've done it popup. Getting rid of this sort of inconsistency really requires someone to spend a long time going through the program systematically testing every control; it takes ages and is very boring ... but necessary. It takes much less time to project everything beforehand. Look at The Bat! developers. They are fixing numerous bugs which came from their projection mistaker. For example, there was a bug that message list settings were automatically saved in main window and were not saved in a separate window. If they'll invent some new message list somewhere - there'll be bugs and bugs again. They'll have to check everything. That's only a question of planning and projecting. OE looks and feels better because Microsoft has graphics artists and user interface designers everywhere and _pours_ money into usability testing. In addition, it controls the user interface standards so can always deem what's right with everyone rushing to catch up. Of course. But The Bat!'s usability suffers. Look suffers. It could be improved, and it should be improved. But it seems to me that developers think about implementing different notepads, expression calculations, they decided to develop yet another HTML control - a good time waste, and I'll not be surprised when I'll see clock and mp3 player in TB. I'm dissappointed. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: RTViewer: Fonts question
In Options - Preferences - Viewer - Rich Text - Item: Regular Text the syles underline, italic and bold are grayed out. Simple question: Why? I had the same problem when there were troubles with tahoma other fonts, but the developers said that they have all the fonts in the list, and no problems. Thus, my bug appears in your case... -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Are the column settings saved?
On 11 Jan 2002, 10:58:04 AM, Anton I. Danilov wrote: I've noticed a strange TheBat!'s behaviour when viewing messages with message list above them enabled (that is, in a separate window). It completely forgets it's settings -- I mean column set and their sizes. are you talking about within accounts or in common folders? common folders seem to finally save default settings in beta 26. Checking... Yes, they do! Thanx. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: S/MIME
Right click the 'Invalid Signature' indicating icon and choose 'Import Key or Certificate' [...] But why did it show Valid on my System even I did not Import from Aleks posting? I don't get it :-( Same story here, and I don't get it as well. But it works. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 Windows NT 5.1 build 2600 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Question to developers
The menu navigator is probably for the newbie or the intermediate user looking for a menu option in the sea of menu options. :-) I'm not sure, do you realize that a good program will never provide such a sea of option? These seas are usability flaws! One sea -- one bad usability. Thus I'm talking for usability tests and reconstruction... Just - to remove seas and to make these navigators useless. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ: 18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Backing up
Hello Alexander. At 5:32 PM on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Backing up': Alexander Really - because I want write now impossible, Alexander with external tool - easy manual filter + rar Sorry, don't understand: is there a way to backup from the command line. If so, can you explain the steps to make this happen. Probably one way to do this is to create a 'back-up.bat' run that instead of bat.exe. Yeah really. The answer given didn't answer the question taken. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ: 18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: 1.54 Beta/19
22.12.2001, Home [+]For finish, could you please send us wich commmand line used for backup accounts. (for Planned task) Yes! That's absolutely needed. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ: 18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Why large attachments (was: 1.54 Beta/19)
22.12.2001, Home 2. Why would you store *huge* peace of data using mail client (and specially *inside* its mail database), which is *not* optimized for it instead of using some database engine? Good question. BY THE WAY! People... Why not asking the Bat! developers to adapt Bat for working with, say, SQL databases? That would COMPLETELY solve the database performance question, as far as you'll be able to store your mail on a corporate Oracle 9i server running on a 32-processor Sun server. And it will be completely seamless!.. I consider it to be a great idea. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ: 18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com