Re[2]: TB! for Linux
Hello Jernej, Yesterday, March 31, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Jernej Simončič answered my query regarding: assuming that Evolution can't import a TB! backup file, I doubt there's any program other than TB which supports that format. I want to ask about the possibility of exporting my TB!message base to a form Evolution could import. Just export to UNIX Mailbox - nearly every client is compatible with that. Thanks, Jernej; I'll give that a try. (IAC, TB! v. 3.99.3 is running very well under Wine on OpenSuse v. 11.4). -- Best regards, Douglasmailto:cede...@gmx.com Current beta is 5.0.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: TB! for Linux
enough, and you get iCal support which you don't with The Bat! iCal Support? My personal recommendation would be for Ritlabs to stay away from Linux as the cost will far out way the benefits. It's hard to compete with free, especially when the free implementation is very good. That's logical. But I've been using TB! for over 10 years and don't yet know how many of the attributes mentioned above can be found in a Linux compatible email client. (the freeware Foxmail was my TB! backup and also has a Message Dispatcher but it too is a Windows application). As you can see (?), the signature cutoff doesn't work under OpenSuse (which of course, does, provide Evolution - and Linux systems seem to be far better for installing additional software, as more and more repositories are continually updated. OTOH, installing applications not contained in repositories can be trickier). Lastly - TB! will export it's Message Base to .msg, .eml and Unix Mailbox formats and I am hoping that Evolution (to try it out) is able to import one or more of those. Opinion? -- Douglas Hinds Dir. Gral. Centro para el Desarrollo Comunitario y Rural, A.C. Guadalajara -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon Martin / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ __ Project Manager / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Milliways / /__| | | | | |_| | mailto: smar...@milliways.cl \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes -- Best regards, Douglasmailto:cede...@gmx.com Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! for Linux
I understand that the purpose of the tbbeta list is to debug the current TB! beta version, but perhaps this suggestion has a place here. This post was sent using TB! v. 3.99.3 on OpenSuse v.11.4 under Wine 1.3.12 with near to full functionality. I am no longer a MS Windows user and do not expect to return to being one. OTOH, I am still a TB! user (since v.1.34) and would like to continue being one. But I am also a Linux user and strongly suggest that RIT Labs make an effort to port The Bat! to this superior Operating System, so I can use it with with my OpenOffice, Opera, Chrome, Firefox, Seamonkey, Dr. Web and Nero versions for Linux (and other Unix-like Operating Systems). As I understand it, porting Delphi to Linux is also possible and Windows will continue to lose ground as more computer users become aware of the advantages that Open Code Community Based OS's have to offer. (winehq.org mentions that v. 3 of TB! will run under Wine, but not version 4. How about a linux version of TB! 5)? Douglas Hinds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylix_(software) Danny Thorpe seems to have been largely responsible for getting Borland to fund a Linux version of Delphi, and he did a lot of the work necessary to make the Delphi compiler produce Linux executables. While both Delphi and Kylix run on 32-bit Intel processors, Linux uses different register conventions than Windows and, of course, the executable and library file formats are different; see DLL, EXE, ELF for details. ... Kylix will run under more recent Linux distributions but requires some research and additional configuration (e.g. having an older version of glibc available, and making other changes to the default environment). In 2009 Embarcadero posted the current Delphi and C++ Builder roadmap. As part of project Delphi X cross compilation for Mac and Linux is planned. Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! for Linux
After I stated: But I am also a Linux user and strongly suggest that RIT Labs make an effort to port The Bat! to this superior Operating System, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Jernej Simončič replied from Poland: As an advanced user of both Windows and Linux, I can only disagree with Linux being superior - while it has it place, and it does some things better than Windows, it's still far from being a good end-user experience on a desktop, both from UI and management points of view. so I can use it with with my OpenOffice, Opera, Chrome, Firefox, Seamonkey, Dr. Web and Nero versions for Linux (and other Unix-like Operating Systems). OpenOffice.org, Opera, Chrome, Firefox and the Mozilla Suite were designed from ground up to be portable. I don't know what Dr. Web is DrWeb is a Moscow based company that produces Security Software (i.e. Antivirus, Anti Spyware and Firewall) http://drweb.com/ and the last time I looked at Nero, it was using an outdated GUI library on Linux. It ran fine on LinuxMint 9 but looks for something it lacks on OpenSuse 11.4 (I just recently switched). As I understand it, porting Delphi to Linux is also possible and Windows will continue to lose ground as more computer users become aware of the advantages that Open Code Community Based OS's have to offer. While there used to be Kylix, it was never really stable, and while backend code could be used with not too many changes, the GUI would have to be redone completely, which is a daunting task for a program like The Bat (since it uses a lot of custom controls, some of which are 3rd party; previously mentioned Opera had it's GUI code rewritten from scratch when it started with serious cross-platform support in version 7 - this is just not feasible for a small company like RitLabs). Unless they decided that it was worth their while - that a market large enough to justify the added effort was likely to develop among Linux users. I didn't get a reply from Stef regarding this issue via direct mail some time ago, maybe he or Max would care to comment about it here on tbbeta (which I'm glad to see is posting my messages now that I've change ISP's). IAC, thanks for your comments, Jernej. -- Best regards, Douglasmailto:cede...@gmx.com Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Downloading
Where can I download the latest beta version of TB!? TIA -- Douglas Hinds Current beta is 4.0.34.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 1.63 Beta/1
Hi Stef, Taking advantage of your unusually extended participation fielding queries and gathering opinions related to TB!'s future, first off let me commend you for continually improving an already outstanding email client and congratulate you for the rapidly increasing degree of recognition TB! has attracted. Secondly, I'd appreciate your confirming the following conception I have about the direction taken regarding TB!'s development: TB! v1.x is a totally separate line from v. 2 and as such, will continue to be supported. That is, improvements in the v 1.x series will continue even after v. 2 is finally released. A single word would suffice (i.e. right or wrong, or yes or no). TIA for your response and keep up the good work. -- Douglas Hinds Current beta is 1.62b17 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
