[OT] The Bat! v10.3.3.6 are running fine on wine!
On 2023-03-21 at 14:56 (UTC +0200) Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10.3.3.6 is with further improvements: > > Versions with the auto-update feature: > 32-bit > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-3-3-6.msi > 64-bit > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-3-3-6.msi and > Versions without auto-update: > 32-bit > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-3-3-6.msi > 64-bit > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-3-3-6.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: All four are running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v8.5 from March 31st, 2023, as 32-bit, 32-bit NAU, 64-bit and 64-bit NAU without any (known) problem. See also "The Bat!" entry in Wines application database: <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=40987> There are also three (later four) different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something is not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list TBBETA. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) Some wonderfull news: The annoying bug "The Bat! v9.3.4.12: Missing content in TTreeViews on Windows versions higher than 8" is gone in the newest wine version. To get more details about this bug please see: <https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51178>. New trouble emerges: Sometimes a started process of "The Bat!" stays running after TB is terminated. This will be need more work and investigation! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v10.3.3.6 (32-bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32-bit + 64-bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v8.5 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v6.3 64-bit (22000) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [OT] Anyone using RSS Subscriptions in TB?
On 2023-03-19 at 18:37 (UTC +0100) MAU wrote: > Hello all, Hello MAU! > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=526 I like to support your wish!! =^..^= -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v10.3.3.6 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v8.5 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v6.3 64bit (22000) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2
On 2022-10-14 at 18:52 (UTC +0300) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, > XLTX, PPT, PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 [+] "Attachment > autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the attachment's tab > of the preview pane (if any) Outlook 97 is back! History repeating... Srsly? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.18 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New error connecting
On 2022-09-24 at 08:53 (UTC -0400) Gleason wrote: > !2022-09-24, 08:47:08: IMAP - Could not connect to the server. A > request to send or receive data was disallowed because the socket is > not connected and (when sending on a datagram socket using a sendto > call) no address was supplied Hi Gleason, could you please try again? If this message appears again, then please report it again. Thank you! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.18 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.4 - bug report
On 2022-09-22 at 18:07 (UTC +0300) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 10.1.0.4 is now available for testing > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-4.msi This is for beta testing very helpful: "0002214: The Bat v10.1.0.4 64Bit and older: The closing dialog is ignoring the /MINIMIZE command line parameter" <https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2214> Abstract: I use the command line parameters /EXIT and /MINIMIZE in combination. This is for test purposes only. The /MINIMIZE parameter is ignored, the closing dialog "Processing folders" is shown. This shouldn't happen. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.18 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.4
On 2022-09-22 at 18:07 (UTC +0300) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 10.1.0.4 is now available for testing > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-4.msi The log files about the synchronisation from a CardDAV/WebDAV server to the new address book is gone. Please bring it back! See "0002213: v10.1.0.4 and older: The log file about a synchronisation via WebDAV in the new address book is gone" <https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2213> -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.17 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v10.1.0.3 RichText Styles in Quick Templates
On 2022-09-16 at 10:55 (UTC +0300) George Salnik wrote: > Please add back styles buttons to quick templates, I don't see it > them now and can't use it. Hi George! If you want an answer or a minimum of attention to what you wrote: Please do not hijack a thread! Open a ticket in Ritlabs Bugtracker and then post its link here with some explanation. This will help more and also it is a benefit for other users of The Bat! Thanks for your attention! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.17 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: The Bat! v10.1.0.3
On 2022-09-13 at 12:44 (UTC +0300) George Salnik wrote: > What's new? Nobody knows. It seems as if there was a problem with this list. And also Ritlabs couldn't send mails to this list. This was also the reason for some test messages to this list in the last time since September begins. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.17 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ping - pong
Good! The list came to life again...! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.17 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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OT: The Bat! v10.1.0.3 runs mostly fine on wine!
Hello list! In my statement about the direction of development I decided in my post https://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg115456.html to leave this list. This did not happen - I was still watching what happens to The Bat! until now. Now I'm back! I will test both NAU versions (32bit and 64bit) against the newest wine. This will run The Bat! on top of wine on top of a Linux distribution. Here is my official test result and report from today: New MSI files from version v10.1.0.3 means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v7.16 from August, 28th, 2022, with some problems: -Calendar mostly usable: it have some severe graphical glitches -Address book mostly usable: it have some severe graphical glitches -wine's bug #51178 is still present. (Please see: "The Bat! v9.3.4.12: Missing content in TTreeViews on Windows versions higher than 8", URL: <https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51178>) More infos about "TheBat!@wine": see Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=40987> Until now there are also three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine (this descriptions are based on The Bat! versions before v10). If you find something is not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Some closing notes: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) btw: @Ritlabs support: your sending mail address must be registered here in the list. If you post a message from an unauthorized e-mail address your mail will be returned and you get a mail with more explanation how to send mails to this list. Then your announcements of new versions will get here! =^..^= -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.16 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v8.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re the Remote Desktop folder processing issue
On 2022-08-27 at 21:02 (UTC +0100) Chris Wilson wrote: > I myself discovered it. Should I post a bug report even if Stefan > knows about this? Thanks. If you think it might help please do so. Bug reports also help other users if they discover a similar problem to prove their discovery and helps to check their own settings which lead to an error. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.15 - Devuan (daedalus ceres): v5 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re the Remote Desktop folder processing issue
On 2022-08-25 at 13:19 (UTC +0100) Chris Wilson wrote: > hard drive to the base TB! files is having an effect on the Remote > Desktop folder processing problem? I am assuming not all v10.* users > of Remote Desktop have this issue, so there must be some difference Could you please provide a link to this bug you posted in Ritlabs bug tracker? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.15 - Devuan (ceres): v5.18.16-1 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to install/uninstall V10 flawlessly
On 2022-08-24 at 20:06 (UTC +0200) MAU wrote:
> Any advice you can provide (including step by step instructions if
> needed) on how to proceed to maintain my current message base,
> accounts, etc., will be greatly appreciated.
First: Why do you want to change your running system?
(Please don't do this!)
You want to change the system? OK. Main advice: do a backup of your
mails. You need to know where the mails are. Look under:
Opciones -> Preferencias -> Sistema -> Directorio de Correo
Copy this path into the clipboard. Exit "The Bat!" now.
Open the path to your mail in the file manager ("Windows Explorer").
Compress the complete folder including the subfolder. You can use "7zip"
(https://www.7-zip.org) or so.
Also do a backup with The Bat! internal backup system:
Herramientas -> Copia de Seguridad
(backup all which is show in this assistent).
Store the zip file and the file you got with The Bat!'s internal backup
system to an external disk or USB pen. Thats to ticket back if
something fails.
Then:
1.) Uninstall the old "The Bat!" installation via Windows deinstaller
2.) Install the newer version of "The Bat!"
3.) If you didn't changed the path to the mails it will recognise your
mails.
4.) If not simply change the path with:
Opciones -> Preferencias -> Sistema -> Directorio de Correo
to the path it shows up before.
5.) Exit The Bat!
6.) Start it again - It will ask you to make use of the mail accounts
it finds now
7.) Done.
If something did not work: deinstall the new version, delete the
Program folder and also delete the folder which you got before (it is
the folder which you saw in "Directorio de Correo").
Reinstall the older version again and copy all your mails (it will
include the account settings) into the folder "Directorio de Correo"
from the beginning.
--
Best regards,
Joerg Schiermeier
Bielefeld, Germany
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productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan
test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta
wine: v7.15 - Devuan (chimera): vDebian 5.18.16-1
emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763)
'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's about the list
On 2022-07-20 at 21:28 (UTC +0200) Martin wrote: > What's about this list? Is working. What's the problem? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.13 - Devuan (chimera): vDebian 5.18.5-1 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (18362) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: The Bat works again on the newest version of wine
Hello list! Last Friday a new version of wine (Version 7.6) was published. This version made The Bat! working again on wine. You will find a description of the new version on wines web page: <https://www.winehq.org/news/2022040801> The Bat v9.5.1.0 is running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v7.6 from Friday, April 8th, 2022, as 32 bit and 64 bit version without any (known) problems. The problems which where reported here <https://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg115500.html> are gone with the new version of wine. There is still a known bug in wine which inhibit some functions in wine and in The Bat! when the emulated version of windows was higher than v8. The workaround is to set the emulated windows version to v8. If you want more infos about this bug, then visit this URL: <https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51178> See also "The Bat!" entry in Wines application database: <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=38558> There are also three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something is not working related to wine please send a bug report to wines Bugzilla: please consult <https://bugs.winehq.org> for more infos how to do this. IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list TBBETA. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to M$-Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) 4.) At this moment I will not test The Bat! versions above v9. Reasons are given here: <https://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg115456.html> -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - last betas v9 wine: v7.6 - Devuan (chimera): v5.16.18-1 emulated windows version (build number): win8, v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! stopped working on wine
Hello list! Last Friday a new version of wine (Version 7.4) was published. This version made The Bat! stopped working. There was a known bug in wine which inhibit some functions in wine when the emulated version of windows was higher than v8. The workaround was to set the emulated windows version to v8. URL: <https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51178> >From wine v7.4 on this workaround stopped working now. And more: The Bat! stopped working complete on wine v7.4. If you want to run The Bat! on top of wine on Linux you will have to install an older version (v7.3) in your Linux machine. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.3 - Devuan (chimera): vDebian 5.16.12-1 emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17763) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V10 beta: It is time for me to step aside
On 2022-02-21 at 17:53 (UTC +0100) MAU wrote: > Hello Stefan and fellow beta testers, > > Tomorrow will be the 20th anniversary of my joining this beta list, > as you can see in the partial message that I quote below: ... > Yes, twenty full years of enthusiastic support of The Bat! project, > and devoting more or less time, depending on circumstances, to > finding bugs and "polishing" the many beta versions that were > released during this long period. I love TB, no doubt about that > > But I am getting old (and you all are too ;), and I am not ready nor > willing to commit to participating as a beta tester of a new major > version, V10. > > Since I retired 15 years ago, my email traffic has been constantly > decreasing. And what I get now, I can very well manage with the last > released version, v9.5.1, and I don't want to get involved with 6 > HTTP connections, et all, either. > > It has been a pleasure sharing with you this experience of beta > testing The Bat! along these years. But things must come to an end, > and I think this is the right moment to do so. > > I will keep monitoring this list for some time, just for the heck of > it, but I don't intend to participate at all. So.. > > SO LONG MY FRIENDS! IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE! AND PLEASE TAKE CARE! > > Cheers, > MAU (Aka Miguel A. Urech) > Have a nice time where ever you will bee and whatever you do! Good luck! I also think about to leave The Bat! behind me. In the past I tested more or less regularly the latest version of TheBat! on wine to let a bat fly in the land of penguins. There is a native mail program "KMail" which got better and better and also has a macro based language inside. It is part of KDE and well integrated into it. So: end of the story about TheBat!@wine. Good luck to you all! Bye bye! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.2 - Devuan (ceres): v5.16.7-2 emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: The Bat! v10 Beta 1 runs NOT on wine!
On 2022-02-17 at 19:06 (UTC +0200) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Finally, we are starting public Beta testing for v10 > Here is a repost from https://www.ritlabs.com/en/news/7745/ I'm sorry to tell you this: The Bat! v10 isn't working in any way on Linux/wine. Reasons will have to be investigated! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.2 - Devuan (ceres): v5.16.7-2 emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 Beta 1
On 2022-02-17 at 19:06 (UTC +0200) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Loyal The Bat! users have participated in beta-testing of The Bat! > for years, but now every owner of The Bat! v9 license has gained the > opportunity to test the next major version before it is officially > released. Seriously? On real serious working so called beta tester will do this. For what? Could you please explain the reason why we should do this? > Good luck to everyone! Thanks! But you will need also this luck - maybe no one will do any testing anymore -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.1.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.2 - Devuan (chimera): vDebian 5.16.7-2 emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: The Bat! v9.5 MSI runs fine on wine!
On 2021-12-19 at 16:59 (UTC +0200) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v9.5 Christmas Edition MSIs are now available: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-5.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-5.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v7.0-rc1 from December, 10th, 2021, as 32bit and 64 bit without any (known) problems. btw: The new and stable version of wine (v7.0) will come up in January 2021. See also "The Bat!" entry in Wines application database: <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=38558> There are also three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something is not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list TBBETA. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) At the end of this message I want to send around a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Please stay healthy! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.5.0.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v7.0-rc1 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.84-1 (2021-12-08) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5 MSI
On 2021-10-26 at 22:52 (UTC +0200) I wrote: > Confirmations please?!? Sorry for the noise: I cannot reproduce the behaviour. So I think i did a mistake. The Bat! works with the command line parameter "/reg:" as expected. You may want to flag this bug as "invalid". ... Uups, I forgot to file this bug. So: end of message... -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.4.5.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.20 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.70-1 (2021-09-30) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5 MSI
On 2021-10-25 at 21:29 (UTC +0300) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > 9.4.5 Halloween Edition MSI is available for testing: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-4-5.msi Modified installation is working flawless. Used command line: %programfiles%\thebat64\thebat64.exe /reg:_beta64 /nologo > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-4-5.msi Modified installation has some issues. Used command line: %programfiles(x86)%\thebat32\thebat32.exe /reg:_beta32 /nologo The Bat! started by this command line always wants to create a new user folder (working dir) and starts the automatic setup assistant to create (new) mail accounts. There is something wrong. Seems that the parameter "/reg:" didn't work correctly with The Bat! 32bit (crucial for β-Testing). Confirmations please?!? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.4 MSI
On 2021-08-21 at 14:57 (UTC +0200) Jernej Simončič wrote: > Start → ⚙️ Settings → Applications → Choose where you want to get > applications from → select Anywhere Please don't lower the security in your system: guess you click a file by accident - what happens than? Also if you do this as Administrator ... oouups! Please see my posting above - the solution with PowerShell is more save. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.4.3.1 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.15 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-4 (2021-08-03) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.4 MSI
On 2021-08-21 at 13:45 (UTC +0200) MAU wrote: > As with recent MSIs, I am warned about being an application NOT from > MS Store. The "Alternate Streams" are sometimes anoying, aren't they? (More Infos, see: <https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-fscc/e2b19412-a925-4360-b009-86e3b8a020c8>) Simply remove them with the PowerShell: 1.) cd to the Folder where your download was gone: cd %userprofile%\downloads 2.) than run: Remove-Item .\thebat_32_9-4-4.msi -Stream Zone.Identifier 3.) Leave the PowerShell: exit Done. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.4.3.1 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.15 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-4 (2021-08-03) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4.3
On 2021-08-05 at 16:05 (UTC +0300) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Hello Joerg, > > > the new version in Ritlabs download section is called v9.4.3 but the > > About screen says v9.4.3.1. > > > Is this downloadable version still a beta version? > > 9.4.3.1 is the final release. It's a bit different from 9.4.2.12 > (aka MSI-packed 9.4.3.0), but not much - we've introduced disconnect > due to inactivity for POP as some users were affected by an > connection errors at a relatively wide used provider... Hi Stefan, nice! Thanks for your clarification! > Anyway, the new Beta will be out soon, so don't worry please :) I will wait for it! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.14 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-3 (2021-07-28) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v9.4.3
Hi list! One question please: the new version in Ritlabs download section is called v9.4.3 but the About screen says v9.4.3.1. Is this downloadable version still a beta version? Thanks for your attention! Have a nice day - and: well done! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.14 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-3 (2021-07-28) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[OT]: The Bat! v9.4 and newer are now working with wine again
Hello list! On Sunday, 04th of July 2021 at 17:11 CEST I wrote: > The Bat! v9.4 MSI *STOPPED WORKING* on wine!! This error is gone! Only a bug with wines handling of *TTreeViews* is still present, please see this issue in wines bug tracker here: <https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51178> When this issue is also gone I will inform you again! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.14 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-3 (2021-07-28) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [OT]: The Bat! v9.4 MSI *STOPPED WORKING* on wine version higher than v6.9!!
On 2021-07-04 at 17:11 (UTC +0200) Joerg Schiermeier wrote: > Last wine which was working was v6.8. Sorry my fault: Last wine which was working was v6.9. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-1 (2021-06-24) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[OT]: The Bat! v9.4 MSI *STOPPED WORKING* on wine!!
On 2021-07-02 at 16:40 (UTC +0300) Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v9.4 MSI are now available: > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-4.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-4.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are *NOT FULLY* working on Linux (Debian64) on wine v6.12 from July, 2nd, 2021! There are some troubles when sending mails with attached files!! This mails won't go out of your outbox for unknown reasons! See more about this issue in wines bug tracker here: <https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51398> Last wine which was working was v6.8. If this chances in future I will report it here. So please stay calm and watch this list very close. Some general notices at last: Please visit also Wines application database about "The Bat!" for more infos: <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=38558> There are three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you want to give it a try - read this very carefully. And if you find something is not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine here: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list (tbbeta). Some other notes: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) So now please try and check by yourself and have fun! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.12 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-1 (2021-06-24) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview pane missing
On 2021-07-03 at 15:10 (UTC +0700) Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have > to do with it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer, Almost all so called "Anti Virus" is snake oil [1][2]. Only use "Brain 1.0"! [1] URL: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil> [2] URL: <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlangen%C3%B6l#cite_note-1> -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.11 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-1 (2021-06-24) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where is the folder list structure stored?
On 2021-06-30 at 08:09 (UTC +0300) Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: > The ACCOUNT.FLB file in the root of the mail data folder stores the > structure of the common folders, including common virtual folders. I think you know the code and your advice is better than mine. But when I move "AccOrder.cfg" out of my working directory than my common folders are missing. Is this "AccOrder.cfg" still in use? What I will have to do to "convert" my old order (in)to "ACCOUNT.FLB"? Thanks for your reply! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.11 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-1 (2021-06-24) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where is the folder list structure stored?
On 2021-06-28 at 14:38 (UTC -0700) Ira wrote:
> I lost the structure of the folder list on the left edge today. What
> file do I need to restore to get it back? I've looked, but can't
> figure it out.
I guess we are now speaking about the file "AccOrder.cfg" which reside
in "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!" -> "Working Directory"
(Reg_SZ).
See: Bildschirmfoto_2021-06-30_17-52-00.png (if the image is small
enough ... ;-)
--
Best regards,
Joerg Schiermeier
Bielefeld, Germany
--
productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan
test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta
wine: v6.11 - Devuan (chimera): v5.10.46-1 (2021-06-24)
emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200)
'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24 ccan not apply styles
On 2021-06-28 at 15:43 George Salnik wrote: > Are we need to do reports to the tracker with beta-versions? Yes. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.11 - Devuan64: v5.10.46-1 (2021-06-24) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.23
On 2021-06-26 at 21:04 Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [+] (#000825) %SOURCE or %SOURCE=Charset macro to include original > message source (using optional character set) into the text Very nice! So my wish <https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=825> is done. Good work - Thank you for that! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.11 - Devuan64: v5.10.46-1 (2021-06-24) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[wish]: Please add a feature in the address book to choose the direction of synchronisation
Hi there! I want to introduce my wish about the address book in The Bat! and it's synchronisation against remote address books: My setting: I run a Nextcloud instance on my web server. There is also a remote address book which I synchronise with The Bat!. At the moment remote changes also effects the local address book and local changes also effects the remote address book. My wish: I want to choose which direction this changes are: a.) local changes effects remote changes to the remote address book, remote changes effects local changes to the local address book (symmetrical synchronisation) b.) local changes effects remote address book (changes are written also remote), remote changes are ignored (asymmetrical synchronisation) c.) remote changes effects local address book (changes are written also local), local changes are ignored (asymmetrical synchronisation) The current way the synchronisation is done is letter a.) If you like my wish so please support it in Ritlabs Bugtracker: <https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2126> P.S.: Please excuse my wrong written "address book" in the Bugtracker...! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.10 - Devuan64/n/a: v5.10.40-1 (2021-05-28) emulated windows version (build number): v6.2 64bit (9200) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: The Bat! v9.3.4 MSI runs fine on wine!
On 2021-04-22 at 13:42 Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-3-4.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-3-4.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on stable wine v6.0 from January, 14th, 2021, without any (known) problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!" for more infos: <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=38558> There are three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you want to give it a try - read this very carefully. And if you find something is not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine here: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) So now try and have fun! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.4.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Devuan64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.0 - Devuan64/beowulf: v4.19.181-1 (2021-03-19) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4 MSI
On 2021-04-22 at 13:42 Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [+] (#0002099) it is now possible to use %CLIPBOARD="..." macro to > change clipboard contents as well as with the (pre-existed) > %SetCLIPBOARD="..." macro Wonderful! Also it is now documented in The Bat!'s help on RitLab's webpage! URL: <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/73/> URL (de): <https://www.ritlabs.com/de/support/help/50/> Very helpfully and very nice! Good work Gentlemen! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v9.3.3.6 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.0 - Debian64/beowulf: v4.19.181-1 (2021-03-19) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) pgpeaZub_oHrD.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.3.3
On 2021-04-06 at 16:42 Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [+] (#0002099) it is now possible to use %CLIPBOARD="..." macro to > change clipboard contents as well as with the (pre-existed) > %SetCLIPBOARD="..." macro This is wonderful!! > pre-existed %SetCLIPBOARD="..." macro I'm sorry to tell this but I didn't found this in RitLabs "The Bat! Help" on the page: <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/73/#6649> What did I wrong? Or where else I will have to search for macros and their names and use? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.5 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.24-1 (2021-03-19) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.3.1 - add macros like in XMP plugin
On 2021-03-20 at 21:16 Gwen wrote: > Please vote for https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2105 I would like to say: I support this wish! For all of you who want to know what this plugin does please see: "Macros plugins - Extended Macro Plugin (XMP) v1.3": <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin.php> More about you may find in the web archive: <https://web.archive.org/web/20140627151924/http://gaijin.at/tbpxmp.php> (German only - please use an online translator) For reasons of documentation you may will find also a list of all the original XMP plugin macros in a notice added to this TB bug entry above. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.4 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.19-1 (2021-03-02) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat
On 2021-03-11 at 23:00 MAU wrote: > > My opinion: Email clients have better things to do than try to be > > pim's or calendars. Email clients that try to provide other complex > > features often end up not doing any of them really well. Sometimes > > the old linux idea of doing one thing and doing it really well, > > applies. > > I fully agree with you. Hi Gleason, hi MAU, hello Stephan and hello to the list! First: I agree to Gleasons opinion too. Second: I left the windowed world more than 21 years ago and all my applications I now run are based on the descendants of UNIX and Linux: the Debian operation system. And I also prefer software which is made based on the KISS principle [1]. The only applications from the windowed world I use every day is "The Bat!" now running on top of wine. I know and use "The Bat!" since its version 1.32. Neither Thunderbird nor KMail nor Claws Mail hits my requirements of today for professional use of e-mail communication. This maybe the reason why I'm a little scared about when I hear about to built in new and untested feature into "The Bat!". My point of view is clearly influenced by the KISS principle: create one small and effective app [1]. So my wished addressed to the "RitLabs"-Team: Please fix some major and minor bugs in "The Bat!" first! Maybe you want to take the goal "bug free" as your guiding stars! Than there maybe some time to think about new features - otherwise a feature crepping [2] progress will take place and all is lost [1] "KISS principle" <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle#In_software_development> [2] "Feature creep" <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep> My two cents! Thank you for your attention! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.3 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.19-1 (2021-03-02) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions on the Bat at the mailto url
Ethan J. Mings wrote: > When I click on a URL in Edge or click attached inside word, Outlook > opens. > > I've set The Bat as the default, still Outlook always opens. > > Any insides on how to fix this? Hi Ethan! There is an other mailing list especial for your needs! It is called: The Bat! user. Please consider to ask there for help. You will find the mailing list here: 1.) An overview about the mailing lists: <https://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/info.html> 2.) "Important things to know about the TB lists": <http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html> 3.) List rules et al about "The Bat! user": <http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html> 4.) Subscribe here (TBUDL -- The Bat! User Discussion List): <https://web3.networkexchange.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tbudl> That is the right place for questions about how to use "The Bat!" and it's settings in the right way. Please think about to ask there all your user questions... And have fun with The Bat! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.3 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.19-1 (2021-03-02) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with "Purge+Compact" - ¡corrected version!
MAU wrote: > POP3. I have never used IMAP. ¡Hola Mau! OK, I will try to help you. First things first: I don't have this problem here. Pleas read and try to understand all what I write here! I guess your problem maybe also a problem with A.) your mail server B.) some settings in The Bat C.) the mail database of this special folder about B.) click on your account name and choose the "account properties" (es: propiedadas). The dialog "Account properties" (es: editar cuenta) comes up. Then click in the left column on "Mail management" (es: Avanzado): look to the right - what is selected? 1.) Delete received messages from server (es: Borrar los mensajes del servidor) 2.) Leave messages on server (es: Mantenar los mensajes en el servidor) and the two checkboxes 2a.) Keep messages on server for x days (es: borrándolos cuando tengan más de x dias) 2b.) Delete messages from server when it is removed from trash (es: borrándolos cuando sean eleminados de la papelera) Did you left the messages on the server? If so set it to "Delete received messages from server" so all old messages are removed. If you really want to leave the messages on the server set an amount of days in b1.) If there is set a.) this is an problem in The Bat. To check this do the following actions: about C.) C1.) Create a folder in your "Documents" folder. C2.) Name it "TheBatExport" or so C3.) Choose the folder with the problem. C4.) Mark all mails. C5.) Use "Tools" (es: Herramientes) C6.) Choose "Export messages to" (es: Exporta a) C7.) ¡IMPORTANT(E!): UNIX mailbox (es: Buzones UNIX) C8.) Make a name and export to the folder you created in C1.) C9.) Exit (es: Salir) "The Bat!". Do not minimize it! C10.) Open The Bats working directory. In windows 10 it is somewhere in the "AppData"s folder. C11.) Navigate to the account and their subfolders. C12.) Open the folder "INBOX". C13.) You will find "MESSAGES.TBB" and "MESSAGES.TBN" (maybe some more). C14.) Delete them ALL. The folder is now empty. C15.) Start "The Bat". C16.) Open the folder "INBOX" (es: entrada) in the account you are working on. C17.) Use again "Tools" (es: Herramientes) C18.) Now choose "Import messages" (es: Importar messajes) C19.) Import with "From UNIX-mailboxes" (es: Desde buzones UNIX) C20.) Use the file from C8.) C21.) Maybe the imported mails are all unread: use the context menu to set them to "all read" (es: Markar todos los Mensajes commo Leídos) Now please refresh all your mail accounts by downloading new mails. If your very old mails are still there you may contact your mail service provider And at last if the provider cannot help you: You may file a bug in RitLabs bug tracker and don't forget to post the bug tracker link here. -- Best regards / Saludos Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.1 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.9-1 (2021-01-20) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with "Purge+Compact"
MAU wrote: > POP3. I have never used IMAP. ¡Hola Mau! OK, I will try to help you. First things first: I don't have this problem here. Pleas read and try to understand all what I write here! I guess your problem maybe also a problem with A.) your mail server B.) some settings in The Bat C.) the mail database of this special folder about B.) click on your account name and choose the "account properties" (es: propiedadas). The dialog "Account properties" (es: editar cuenta) comes up. Then click in the left column on "Mail management" (es: Avanzado): lock to the right - what is selected? 1.) Delete received messages from server (es: Borrar los mensajes del servidor) 2.) Leave messages on server (es: Mantenar los mensajes en el servidor) and the two checkboxes 2a.) Keep messages on server for x days (es: borrándolos cuando tengan más de x dias) 2b.) Delete messages from server when it is removed from trash (es: borrándolos cuando sean eleminados de la papelera) Did you left the messages on the server? If so set it to "Delete received messages from server" so all old messages are removed. If you really want to leave the messages on the server set an amount of days in b1.) If there is set a.) this is an problem in The Bat. To check this do the following actions: about C.) C1.) Create a folder in your "Documents" folder. C2.) Name it "TheBatExport" or so C3.) Choose the folder with the problem. C4.) Mark all mails. C5.) Use "Tools" (es: Herramientes) C6.) Choose "Export messages to" (es: Exporta a) C7.) ¡IMPORTANT(E!): UNIX mailbox (es: Buzones UNIX) C8.) Make a name and export to the folder you created in 3a.) C9.) Exit (es: Salir) "The Bat!". Do not minimize it! C10.) Open The Bats working directory. In windows 10 it is somewhere in the "AppData"s folder. C11.) Navigate to the account and their subfolders. C12.) Open the folder "INBOX". C13.) You will find "MESSAGES.TBB" and "MESSAGES.TBN" (maybe some more). C14.) Delete them ALL. The folder is now empty. C15.) Start "The Bat". C16.) Open the folder "INBOX" (es: entrada) in the account you are working on. C17.) Use again "Tools" (es: Herramientes) C18.) Now choose "Import messages" (es: Importar messajes) C19.) Import with "From UNIX-mailboxes" (es: Desde buzones UNIX) C20.) Use the file from 3h.) C21.) Maybe the imported mails are all unread: use the context menu to set them to "all read" (es: Markar todos los Mensajes commo Leídos) Now please refresh all your mail accounts by downloading new mails. If your very old mails are still there you may contact your mail service provider And at last if the provider cannot help you: You may file a bug in RitLabs bug tracker and don't forget to post the bug tracker link here. -- Best regards / Saludos Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.1 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.9-1 (2021-01-20) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with "Purge+Compact"
MAU wrote: > But, after completing, I found some 35 unread messages with dates as > old as Feb 2002 (my subscription to TBbeta and Welcome message). Where > they did come from? Go figure! Are we speaking about a POP3 account or IMAP? If IMAP this maybe a kind of a "cache problem". So please click with the right mouse button on the folder you want to clean (INBOX) to get the context menu and than choose in the contextual menu: Properties -> IMAP specific (on the left side) and hit the button "Clear cache now" on the right side of the dialog. Then try again what you did before. Maybe you can report the result here if you like otherwise please file a bug in the bug tracker and give us here the link. Good luck! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.3 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.13-1 (2021-02-06) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [wish]: Add a macro which writes text to the clipboard
Related link in RitLabs bug tracker: <https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2099> -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.1 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.9-1 (2021-01-20) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[wish]: Add a macro which writes text to the clipboard
Please add a macro which writes some text to the clipboard [1]. Compare
with a similar function in AutoIt: the "ClipPut" command - ClipPut
("value" ) [2].
[1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dataxchg/clipboard
[2] https://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/docs/functions/ClipPut.htm
--
Best regards,
Joerg Schiermeier
Bielefeld, Germany
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productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64
test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta
wine: v6.1 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.10.9-1 (2021-01-20)
emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134)
'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Ritlabs Bug Tracker
Gwen wrote: > Did you sent this idea to Stefan Tanurkov, too? Before I will do that I want to get some feedback here. Maybe this list will send me to hell which than is a clear sign not to do this kind of noise. So: I will do this but not yet. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.0-rc2 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.9.11-1 (2020-11-27) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Ritlabs Bug Tracker
Hello everybody! I want to introduce an idea to everybody in this list: What do you think about when the Mantis bug tracker always sends a mail to this list when a new bug is reported? Note: To be clear: the bug tracker only sends a mail once when a new bug is reported - not when this new bug is changed or someone adds a note or so. So we will have a basis for our testing and can focus on actual difficulties with our beloved flying animal. Appendix: How to configure Mantis in this way is described here: https://stackoverflow.com/a/11207188 -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.0-rc2 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.9.11-1 (2020-11-27) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[wishes]: Please add a dropdown for templates to "Reply to all"
Hello! I just created a wish in Ritlabs bug tracker: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2094 0002094: [wishes]: Please add a dropdown for templates to "Reply to all" The button "To" (Create a new message), "Reply" and "Forward" in the main interface have a little black arrow to choose a mail template from the "Quick Templates". This option would be nice to have also with the button "Reply to all". So I can prepare a template to use to answer to all recipients of an incoming mail. If you like this idea please support it. Thanks a lot! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v6.0-rc2 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.9.11-1 (2020-11-27) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: The Bat! v9.3.0.1 MSI runs fine on wine!
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.3.0.1 MSI with some hotfixes is available from > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-3-0-1.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-3-0-1.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v5.21 from November, 6th, 2020, without any (known) problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=38558> There are also three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something is not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) 4.) The bug #2030 "Grey unfilled area in main window after minimize to task bar and restore to full screen state" in RitLabs bug tracker is now gone and could be closed. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.21 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.9.1-1 (2020-10-17) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments with more than 150 kb
Marck Pearlstone wrote: > We only recently doubled the limit to 150kb from 75kb for the Beta > list. We have several hundred members of this list and the hosts > prefer us not to use that much bandwidth. If you were attaching a > screenshot or a log, please trim the content to show the relevant > issues. If there is general support for increasing the limit more, I > can discuss it with the admin of the host system. > > Opinions? I do not recommend to change this amount. Maybe it should be reduced to the old value. Why? 1. This list is only for reporting bugs in new releases of "The Bat!". 2. This list isn't for binaries of any kind. 3. No one wants to read HTML mails here - it is crap. Everybody could configure his or her mailer to send plain text to this list. 4. The correct place to send/upload pictures or similar is the bug tracker here: <https://bt.ritlabs.com/>. Please create a bug report and add your images to your report. Than post the link to this bug report here in this list. But also there exists some rules: a bug tracker is not a forum. My two cents. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.19 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.8.10-1 (2020-09-19) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) pgpTr5Zpug0Uz.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG and Voyager
Jano Skokanek wrote: > Please, where can I look for any "how to" about portable > installations GnuPG and Voyager using? I have all items in dialog You will get info about a portable installation of GnuPG there where you download it and in the GnuPG documentation online: <https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/GPG-Configuration.html> > "Options\OpenPGP\Choose OpenPGP version\Select OpenPGP > implementation" grayed. (I don't have Gnupg in system path, because I > am using portable version of GnuPG). If you use GnuPG from PortableApps.com you will have to set some registry keys properly: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Environment] "GNUPGHOME"="path\\to\\your\\GnuPG-Data-Folder\\GnuPG" For 64bit GnuPG: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNUPG] "HomeDir"="path\\to\\your\\GnuPG-Data-Folder\\GnuPG" ;;Replace "de" for German with your language code "Lang"="de" For 32bit GnuPG: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wow6432Node\GNUPG] "HomeDir"="path\\to\\your\\GnuPG-Data-Folder\\GnuPG" ;;Replace "de" for German with your language code "Lang"="de" And it is a good idea to add the path to GnuPG executables to your local or global PATH environment variables: "PATH"=str(2):"some\\other\\path;path\\to\\your\\GnuPG-installation\\gnupg\\bin" If you do this in an PortableApps.com installation it will handle this. See: <https://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/ref/envsub.html#ref-envsub> and <https://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/topics/registry.html> Please post further questions about this topic in the *The-Bat.user* list! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.18 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.8.10-1 (2020-09-19) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: The Bat! v9.2.3 MSI runs fine on wine!
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.2.3 release MSI are available: > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-2-3.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-2-3.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v5.16 from August, 28th, 2020, without any (known) problems. The error which I reported some week ago in July is now fixed. See this bug report: <https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49719>. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=38558> There are also three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something is not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.16 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.7.17-1 (2020-08-23) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) pgp3tk6Zv4wTk.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.3 MSI - Microsoft scars users trying to install foreign apps
Ethan J. Mings wrote: > Not sure why, Microsoft flagged the file as potentially damaging for > my machine. This is new Windows 10 standard behaviour when you download an executable file like an EXE or MSI file from a web location outside the app store from Microsoft or a Microsoft certificated store. This was introduced in the last complete update of Windows 10. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.16 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.7.17-1 (2020-08-23) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: The Bat! v9.2.2.3 MSI runs NOT fine on wine!
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.2.2.3 is available > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.2.3-x32-full.7z > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.2.3-x64-full.7z > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.2.3-x32.7z > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.2.3-x64.7z Hello list! For all of you who tried running The Bat! in Linux using wine: currently this doesn't work any more. The latest version of The Bat! which works nice on top of wine was "The Bat! v9.2.1 - final MSI" published on July 1st, 2020. This might NOT be a problem of The Bat! but of wine. This was a reason I just filed a bug in wines bug tracker: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49719 Hopefully my friends there will help. I'm sorry to say this - if you use The Bat! on Linux with wine: At this particular time it is not recommended to update neither wine nor The Bat!. So dear Ladies and Gentlemen, stay calm and please wait for new wine...! Thanks for your attention! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.15 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.7.10-1 (2020-07-26) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: The Bat! v9.2.2 MSI runs NOT fine on wine!
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-2-2.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-2-2.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both (32bit and 64bit) are NOT running on Linux (Debian64) on new wine v5.12 from July, 3rd, 2020! Reasons are not clear - I suspect the heavy changes in wine since v5.10. You may want to read the changes there: <https://www.winehq.org/announce/5.11> These points are not trivial: - More work on the separate Unix library for NTDLL. - Beginnings of a NetIO kernel driver implementation. So if you use The Bat! on Linux with wine: At these moment it is not recommended to update wine or The Bat!. Stay calm and please wait for new wine. If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.12 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Erratum: The Bat! v9.2.1.0 MSI runs fine on wine
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > What failed exactly, please? I use some scripts I wrote to download, install and test The Bat!s 32bit and 64bit version against latest wine. One of this scripts was faulty and so it generates a wrong (old) version string of wine. So it was more a wine problem than The Bat!s. Sorry for the noise. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.11 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Erratum: The Bat! v9.2.1.0 MSI runs fine on wine
> on brand new wine v5.4 from March, 13th, 2020 Sorry my test script failed: wine v5.11 from June, 19th, 2020 -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.11 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v9.2.1.0 MSI runs fine on wine
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.2.1.0 MSI is available > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1-0.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1-0.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v5.4 from March, 13th, 2020, without any (known) problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=38558> There are also three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.11 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kinda roadmap ;)
Ira wrote: > when editing an email address in the To field The Bat assumes you're > entering it from scratch and erases what your doing. For example. I'm > replying to j...@somecompany.com and I jighlight "jane" and type > "bob". The Bat (...) Could you please tell us which number has your bug report in Ritlabs bug tracker? So we can check and comment your problem as beta testers. Thanks. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.9 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Future of TB* mailing lists
MAU wrote: > As long as the screenshot is less than 51 KB, which is the limit > for bug tracker. Uuups, I newer noticed this limitation there. And I uploaded a lot of screenshots. Every image I uploaded into the bug tracker was proccessed in my photo editor to get an exact shot of what I want to report. You are right - until you told me about this limit I never saw this little hint at the upload field "Maximum size: 51 KB". -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.8 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 9.0.14 MSI
ping 3 -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany ~~ productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.8 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 64bit (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Future of TB* mailing lists
Marck Pearlstone wrote: > AS> Screenshots being stripped from the messages unless it all fits > AS> in 25Kb, > > (With amendments from the TBUDL response). > > In the case of TBUDL, this seems to be happening regardless of size. I > have looked but the settings don't specify to do that. The hosting > server has shifted twice since we started to use the current rack. I > am not necessarily confident that the settings have ported correctly. For TBBETA I would like to say: There is no change necessary - if somebody whats to send screenshots he should file a ticket and add the screenshot there. Only the bug tracker is the right place to upload screenshots. > AS> famous "Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information" > AS> footer attached to all messages... Perhaps it is time for a > AS> maintenance? > > This footer used to be maintained by admins every time a new release > came from RITlabs, often with a slight lag. Max asked to control this > automatically and this was being done for a while. Then they stopped > updating it. I guess it's down to me again. (I am the sole admin and > mod these days, everyone else having resigned from the list). Max took > it over because I was updating it when the new MSI was released to > TBBETA, not in the loop otherwise as to when a particular version > became the current release. For TBBETA I would like to say: I never cared about the footer. But I like the new one! > I suggest 150 for TBBETA and 100 for TBUDL. Thoughts? As I said before: we should use the bug tracker. Others than suspected behaviour which means possible bugs shouldn't be discussed here. > AS> * Consider merging TDUDL/TBBETA into one. > > That's a very large "NO". There are 2 distinct audiences - those who > test new features and those who want help with the current release > version as end users. Exactly. TBBETA is only for serious beta testers - this means: very advanced users and users with a background of development or administrative tasks. > AS> * Move mailing lists homepage to a separate domain. > > I don't know what this means... I guess something like www.tbbeta.org. But this will cost money. So I conclude: not necessary. > If anybody else wants to take this > over from me, go ahead - I will redirect. Please Mark: it is ok in the way it is now. Thanks for your work! Just my two pennies (or cents if you like euros :). -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.8 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) pgpYzwDXvC0qs.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Small bug in Alpha 19.1.8.6
Ethan J. Mings wrote: > Small bug in Alpha 19.1.8.16 Only for the record: the subject is misleading! It isn't version 19.1.8.16 it is version 19.1.8.6 So the complete thread is wrong named! @Marck Pearlstone: Did you have an opportunity to change the name of this thread please? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.8 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Small bug in Alpha 19.1.8.16
Ethan J. Mings wrote: > Link to the bug - https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2015 I just "liked" your bug. And I added a photo from our suspect. :) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.8 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Small bug in Alpha 19.1.8.16
Ethan J. Mings wrote: > Can others confirm? Yes i can reproduce this issue in 32bit and 64 bit. Ethan, could you please file a ticket in the bug tracker please? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.8 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: German The Bat! forum "batboard.net" seems to be down
Warning: This is off topic == Hello! The German web forum "Batboard" (https://www.batboard.net) created by volunteers seems to be down. Any confirmations about this? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.7 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB v9.1.18 MSI - Toolbar problems
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-1-18.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-18.msi Toolbar customisation not saved in mail editor (component "TMsgEditor") See: <https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2001> This happens when I change the toolbar in the mail editor via "Add or remove buttons" from the drop down menu at the end of a toolbar. I found this in the 32 bit and in the 64 bit version. By the side: a change of the language also destroys the toolbar customisations. See: <https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2002> All bugs are done on a cleaned machine: -old folders are erased (in %appdata% and %programfiles%/%programfiles(x86)%) -registry is cleand, no "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT" exist -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest (beta) wine: v5.6 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Erratum: The Bat! v9.1.6 runs fine on wine
Joerg Schiermeier wrote: > See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": > <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=29829> Uupps..! Sorry - the link above is outdated. Please use this: <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=38558> -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.4 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.2.17-1 (2019-09-26) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v9.1.6 runs fine on wine
Hello TBBETA! Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! 9.1.6 MSI and Voyager files are available at: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-1-6.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1-6.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_9-1-6-1.exe New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v5.4 from March, 13th, 2020, without any (known) problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=29829> There are also three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.4 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.2.17-1 (2019-09-26) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 9.0.14 MSI
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > Hello Curt, ping 2! (Please ignore this message) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.4 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.2.17-1 (2019-09-26) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 9.1 MSI files
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! 9.1 MSI files are available at: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-1.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-1.msi ping! (Please ignore this message) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v5.4 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.2.17-1 (2019-09-26) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.0.0.8
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! 9.0.0.8 (ALPHA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9008-32.rar > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9008-64.rar Ribbon: message Button: New Favorites are missing. This button should have an arrow down with a list of all as favorite selected addresses. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v4.17 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.2.17-1 (2019-09-26) emulated windows version (build number): v10.0 (17134) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.0.0.5 - "TheBat!" ribbon is gone...
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! 9.0.0.5 (ALPHA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9005-32.rar > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9005-64.rar Please bring back the yellow "TheBat!"-Ribbon: this is the correct place for -import -export -printing -options / program preferences -exit -... Would be nice. Thanks you! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v4.17 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.2.17-1 (2019-09-26) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat! v9.0.0.2 (ALPHA) now runs on wine!
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! 9.0.0.2 (ALPHA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9002-32.rar > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9002-64.rar There are some issues about the icons on the ribbons but generally it's working now on top of wine! More info may follow soon...! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v4.17 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.2.9-2 (2019-08-21) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
WARNING! TheBat! v9.0.0.1 (ALPHA) cannot run on wine!
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! 9.0.0.1 (ALPHA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9001-32.rar > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9001-64.rar The new version of TheBat! v9.0.0.1 didn't run on wine v4.17. The application will start but than crash with: ---stderr--- wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x059c24e8 at address 0040A212 (thread 0009), starting debugger... ---/stderr--- So we (I) will do more investigations about why this happens. BTW: TheBat! v8.x is still running flawless. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v4.17 - Debian64/bullseye: v5.2.9-2 (2019-08-21) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Running The Bat! on wine by using GnuPG from Linux
Hello list, hello Maxim! To open a small window towards Linux: 0001801: [wish]: An additional option to choose a free configurable external encryption/decryption and signing/verification tool URL: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1801 -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v4.13 - Debian64/bullseye: v4.19.37-6 (2019-07-18) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Running The Bat! on wine by using GnuPG from Linux
Hello list, hello Maxim! The following problem isn't really a problem which should be solved next time: it's more a general issue with "The Bat!" running on Linux with a little help from wine. So nothing to really worry about. But maybe I can get some help or some ideas. Preface: Running "The Bat!" on top of a Linux installation with wine is working without any (known) problem. Also in this special case the interaction with GnuPG for encrypting and/or signing mails is working. I use GnuPG installed also in wine (GnuPG as its Windows version). The Idea: I want to use the GnuPG infrastructure directly which is installed in Linux. What is working: -"The Bat!" works -I can call GPG from the underlaying Linux via a simple symbolic link to '/usr/bin/gpg'. -GnuPG will read my keys correctly, see log from the console. --- output of Linux console --- sec:u:4096:1:67673EA872AD2EB6:1562876870:1720556870::u:::scESC::23::0: fpr:652D822DFB01726C37E5B55B67673EA872AD2EB6: grp:4814EA4B73394857D76E458114DE0C6A81BC00F8: uid:u1562877116::56E50EB55AAEBBAAE29FC9B267C7168DE5EA539D::Joerg Schiermeier (Das ist ein Testaccount.) ::0: uid:u1562877089::DDCF210BF75D183FDFCFBB96AF4730CE206E5930::Joerg Schiermeier (Das ist ein Testaccount.) ::0: ssb:u:4096:1:E404F244EB598803:1562876870:1720556870:e::23: fpr:DAC5D92E02064D3D1A72C720E404F244EB598803: grp:F589BE3F009FDE31064250F6A3D2D9CC8F9B52E5: --- // --- This didn't work: The transfer of this infos back to "The Bat!" fails. The "thebat32_Exceptions.log" said: --- thebat32_Exceptions.log --- The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) Date: 18 Jul 2019 00:43:05 OS: Windows 7 SP1 X64 (AMD or Intel) build 7601 PhysMemFreeTotal: 002047/002047 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 002047/002047 MB CommandLine: C:\opt\winprog\thebat\thebat32.exe /nologo Bitness: x32 MAPI #0: Native Mail Client [Native Mail Client]; Path: C: \windows\system32\winemapi.dll (not valid) MAPI #1: The Bat! [The Bat!]; Path: C:\opt\winprog\thebat\tbmapi32.dll (valid) Default Profile: Address: 0144E076 ClassName: Exception Message: ExecuteStdApp PI.hProcess event error IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20190604170359 C:\opt\winprog\thebat\thebat32.exe Stack: 0144E076 [0040] 0144E071 [0040] 004071D4 [0040] 0042DDE5 [0040] 01451156 [0040] 014512A4 [0040] 01451AFE [0040] 0144D2D9 [0040] 0161718D [0040] 016189ED [0040] 0161490C [0040] 016190F0 [0040] 01618E43 [0040] 00D9F334 [0040] 0162D76E [0040] 00B242D2 [0040] 00B26DC0 [0040] 00B26174 [0040] 00B27299 [0040] 00D9A878 [0040] 007A3428 [0040] 0080 [0040] 007A32B4 [0040] 004D74F8 [0040] 00CD425E [0040] 006A8567 [0040] 006A85AA [0040] 00CD425E [0040] 006A88DD [0040] 01846399 [0040] 01870F80 [0040] --- // --- Could anybody tell me what "ExecuteStdApp PI.hProcess event" means here? I want to examine this deeper and try to get a better connection to Linux GnuPG. This would be helpful to follow the way to run "The Bat!" correctly under wine/Linux. But please don't waste time for this - its only my interest to run "The Bat!" on Linux. As I said above: this is working nice with GnuPG for Windows. Thanks a lot! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v4.12.1 - Debian64/bullseye: v4.19.37-5 (2019-06-19) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 8.8.9 MSI runs fine on wine, was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt)
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8-9.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8-9.msi New MSI files means also new tests against brand new wine v4.1 which was released just some days ago (February 4, 2019): Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on latest wine without any (known) serious problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=29829> There are also described three different installation methods how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list (NOT to tbbeta). Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). Unless there are no native 64bit plugins available, this will not be fixed. 2.) A known issue is about the system tray in KDE: <https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2015-May/413243.html> So I recommend to switch of the system tray icon in "The Bat!s" preferences. Please notice: this tests were done by some scripts to get a quick check if there are some new problems since the last MSIs.... Thanks for your nice work Maxim! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.9.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v4.9 - Debian64/buster: v4.19.37-3 (2019-05-15) 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 8.8 runs fine on wine - was: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-8.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-8.msi New MSI files means also new tests against brand new wine v4.1 which was released just some days ago (February 4, 2019): Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on latest wine without any (known) serious problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=29829> There are also described three different installation methods how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list (NOT to tbbeta). Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). Unless there are no native 64bit plugins available, this will not be fixed. 2.) A known issue is about the system tray in KDE: <https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2015-May/413243.html> So I recommend to switch of the system tray icon in "The Bat!s" preferences. Please notice: this tests were done by some scripts to get a quick check if there are some new problems since the last MSIs.... Thanks for your nice work Maxim! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8.8.0.0 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v4.1 - Debian64/buster: v4.19.16-1 (2019-01-17) Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
XMP plugin 64bit etc., was: Ability to use old...
Lüko Willms wrote: > Is there no chance to get the author, Werner Rumpeltesz, to release the > code as open source, or hand it over to others who are willing to > continue development? For the record - the author gave an answer to this question three years ago. You might visit the German forum "Batboard" (this isn't a RitLabs connected forum) to see his answer: <https://www.batboard.net/index.php/Thread/13224-XMP-64-Bit/?postID=121206#post121206> (This is in German) Other visitors with no German mother tongue may use an online translator please. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: wine-4.0-rc7 - Debian64: v4.19.12-1 (2018-12-22) Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.6 MSI
Gwen wrote: > BUG: TLS on my german T-Online account! > TLS handshake Remote host closing connection There is a limitation about the interval in which you call the T-Online POP3 server: don't call the pop3 server in less than 15 minutes. See this: https://telekomhilft.telekom.de/t5/E-Mail-Programme/Der-Mail-Server-securepop-t-online-de-antwortete-IN-USE-Mailbox/td-p/1249175 It's in German and it is not said clearly that an call under 15 minutes is blocked, but the context says exactly this. Maybe this will help. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v3.2 - Debian64: v4.9.110-3+deb9u2 (2018-08-13) Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 8.5 runs fine on wine - was: Re: 8.5 MSI files
Maxim Masiutin wrote: > Please try The Bat! 8.5 MSI files, which are are available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_8-5.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_8-5.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on latest wine without any (known) problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=29829> There are also described three different installation methods how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) There are some wine issues with Googles oauth2 method to connect to GMail accounts 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) 4.) Neither a connection to Exchange servers wasn't tested yet (but may work) nor a connection via modem. Please notice: this was done by some scripts to get a quick check if there are some new problems since the last MSIs I will have to investigate this new MSIs in the next days with a closer look into its deep. Thanks for your work Maxim! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v3.2 - Debian64: v4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07) Current beta is 8.4.0.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 8.4 runs fine on wine - was: The Bat! 8.4 MSI
Maxim Masiutin wrote: > Hello TBBETA, > > Please try The Bat! 8.4 MSI: New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on latest wine without any (known) problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=29829> There are also described three different installation methods how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) There are some issues with Googles oauth2 method to connect to GMail accounts 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) 4.) Neither a connection to Exchange servers wasn't tested yet (but may work) nor a connection via modem. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v3.2 - Debian64: v4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07) Current beta is 8.4.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.3.0.27 - Running 32bit and 64bit on teh same system
Ethan J. Mings wrote: > Can you run the 32 bit version and 64 bit version on the same system? Yes. You will have to use the command line parameter: /reg: like I do to run 32bit and 64bit The Bat! on my machine. Here is the example: /path/to/thebat64.exe /reg:_beta64 /nologo This creates a separated registry entry called: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!_beta64 and it will do the trick. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v3.2 - Debian64: v4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07) Current beta is 8.3.0.27 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG encryption failure but Signing works
Eddie wrote: > I am aware of that. I do use my private key to encrypt. If you really did this, this is wrong: please hold in mind 1) to _encrypt_ a mail with PGP/GnuPG you will have to use the public key of the addressee, sipmly the guy who you put into the "To:" address field 2) to _sign_ a mail with PGP/GnuPG you will have to use YOUR private key of the account and mail address you want to send your mail "From:". Note: there is no other way to do it. Please see also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy#Design> -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta wine: v3.2 - Debian64: v4.9.82-1+deb9u3 (2018-03-02) Current beta is 8.3.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why do you call me Goos?, was: Re: A new icon as account logo?!
Gunivortus Goos wrote: > @all ... > Why do you call me Goos? > I sign all my posts here with Gunivortus Goos, Goos is the family > name. OK, most of the time I do. But even when I sing with that full > name or just as Gunivortus, replies are sent to Goos. If so please sanitize your account name and your signature. In the web mailing list <http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.narkive.com> this is visible: Attachment: Bildschirmfoto_2017-12-09_17-07-27.png Remind this: The Internet will never forget! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 8.0.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 8.0.10 runs fine on wine - Part: 2
I forgot something to tell: > Please note: > 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit > version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). > 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) GnuPG v2 isn't working: you will not be able to decrypt an encrypted message under wine. This seems to be a GnuPG issue (further investigation is needed). 4.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from > the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs > bug tracker very often and very closely. :) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 8.0.10.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 8.0.10 runs fine on wine
Hello TBBETA! Post by Maxim Masiutin: > Please test 8.0.10 MSI files: > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_32_8-0-10.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_8-0-10.msi New MSI files means also new tests against latest wine: Both are running on Linux (Debian64) on brand new wine v2.21 from November, 11th, 2017, without any (known) problems. See also Wines application database about "The Bat!": <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version=29829> There are also three different installation methods described how to install "The Bat!" on Linux/Wine. If you find something not working related to wine please send a bug report to wine: <https://bugs.winehq.org> IMPORTANT: Please do not send it to this list. Please note: 1.) Plugins which are created for use under 32bit didn't work with 64bit version of "The Bat!" (not a wine problem). 2.) A connection to Exchange servers isn't tested yet but may work. 3.) You may or may not find some nice bugs introduced in "The Bat!" from the windows world also in "The Bat!" on wine. So please watch also Ritlabs bug tracker very often and very closely. :) -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v8 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 8.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bitness, was: 7.4.16.49 - Exceptions log file
Lüko Willms wrote: > I simply take the base name of the executable, which is obviously the > first part of the name of the exceptions.log ha, good idea and a nice solution! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v7 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 7.4.16.49 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bitness, was: 7.4.16.49 - Exceptions log file
Maxim Masiutin wrote: > It seems that this script checks Windows version bitness, not The Bat! > version bitness. ah, I shouldn't post something complicate deep in the night. I use a Perl script to do so, see: https://stackoverflow.com/a/495305 or a small C program: https://stackoverflow.com/a/10750035 VBS has also some functions to access the WinAPI - for this please read the manual. Sorry for my mistake. -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v7 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 7.4.16.49 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 7.4.16.49 - Exceptions log file
Lüko Willms wrote: >BTW, does anybody have an idea how I could -- using VBscript -- find >out if the 32bit or the 64bit version of TheBat! is installed? You may try this: https://stackoverflow.com/a/3583703 -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v7 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 7.4.16.49 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 7.4.16.49
Maxim Masiutin wrote: > The Bat! 7.4.16.49 (ALPHA) (...) > (#0001273) Command line parameter "/reg" > [was not supported in previous alphas (BETA issue) bug is fixed in 7.4.16.49! Thank you, Maxim! Well done! Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v7 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 7.4.16.49 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GnuPG support in TB - please check!
Martin wrote: > I am running GnuPG 2.2.0 on Windows 7 - and it seems to work with > TheBat! Which issue do you think about? OK. So everybody who filed a bug report under https://bt.ritlabs.com/view_all_bug_page.php (set filter to: gnupg) may check the actual behavior of The Bat! against the reported errors again please. So RitLabs can track down this issues if they still exists. A reliable signing and encryption system in a mail program is a crucial feature! Thank you! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v7 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
GnuPG support in TB
Hi list! Three days ago GnuPG 2.2.0 was released. This version is a LTE (Long term support) version. See: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2017-08/msg00012.html> So: Isn't this a good opportunity to fix all issues related to GnuPG 2.x in The Bat!? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v7 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Command line parameters
Gwen wrote: > Yes, a bug! > Parameter fails! Thank you Gwen for verifying this task. I just filed a bug report under: <https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1273> @all: Please support this bug! It is important for test purposes! -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v7 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Command line parameters
Hello, is the command line parameter "/reg" not supported anymore? -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Bielefeld, Germany -- productive: The Bat! pro v7 (32bit) - wine(at)Debian64 test environment (32bit + 64bit): The Bat! pro - latest beta Current beta is 7.4.16.45 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! alpha .3
) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.42 debug 9:FinalizeLanguage v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.42 debug 9:FinalizeStreamMimeCoder v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.43 debug 9:FinalizeFldFrame v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.45 debug 9:FinalizeRegExt v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.47 debug 9:FinalizexCharsets v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.47 debug 9:FinalizeTaskExecutor v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.158 debug 9:FinalizePropertyManager v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.161 debug 9:FinalizeAddrHistory v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.164 debug 9:FinalizeGrpUtil v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.204 debug 9:FinalizeTBXProps v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.211 debug 9:FinalizeParserScope v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.212 debug 9:FinalizeMAPIAuto v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.213 debug 9:FinalizeABCGrid v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.213 debug 9:FinalizeMBase v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.213 debug 9:FinalizeSSPI v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.217 debug 9:FinalizeIpResolver v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.220 debug 9:FinalizeWSock v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.221 debug 9:FinalizeMapiObj v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.221 debug 9:FinalizeAdvUtil v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.222 debug 9:FinalizeStdMsgActions v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.222 debug 9:FinalizePlugins v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.223 debug 9:FinalizeCreateDir v6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Archimedes/joerg 02.10.2013 14:11:12.223 debug 9:FinalizeWMicroEd -- Best regards, Joerg Schiermeier Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
