Re[2]: Program closing on mail check
Hello Thomas, On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ>> Could you please tell me how to check with the Dispatcher to see if PJ>> the bug has reappeared? T> Account / Despatch Messages on Server / New Messages Only...take T> the tickmark off "Receive" and hit the circular icon. All the other T> messages should download fine. T> If TB closes again, it's not the first message. Do the above again and T> take an educated guess which message it might be... Thanks Thomas; all new messages have now downloaded without problem. If the problem was a malformed HTML message would this have occurred? -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Program closing on mail check
Hi Thomas, On Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 9:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ>> TB! is closing after it does an automatic mail check. I am trying to PJ>> determine the exact circumstances, as it does not happen every time. PJ>> Has anyone else had this problem with the current version? T> No, but in a previous (beta?) version, this happened when TB tried to T> download a malformed HTML message. Check with the Despatcher whether T> this bug has re-appeared. Could you please tell me how to check with the Dispatcher to see if the bug has reappeared? Thanks, -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Program closing on mail check
Hello, TB! is closing after it does an automatic mail check. I am trying to determine the exact circumstances, as it does not happen every time. Has anyone else had this problem with the current version? Thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Message List Columns
Hello Miguel, On Thursday, November 10, 2005, 3:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> It is set to Ignore Changes; and I have tried the other two settings >> as well. It makes no difference. >> >> (View mode is set to "none", by the way.) M> None is no view mode so the setting will not affect this (I think). I M> would try using Generic view mode. I've now tried with and without View Modes; doesn't work either way. "Some" changes in settings from one folder are "sometimes" adopted by other folders. Sometimes the settings switch to a View Mode when none was selected before. It's a mess. To clarify, is Generic View Mode a set of preferences that can be applied to any folder, the same as a new View Mode you might set up? Also, the names of View Modes often don't show in the menus or in the Manage View Modes window (please see attached screenshots). Any help or comfort appreciated.:-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 screenshot2.png Description: PNG image screenshot.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Message List Columns
Hi Paul and all, PJ>> This is more than an annoyance. Until the bugs are actually fixed, can PJ>> any of you good people suggest a workaround? P> Have you tried v. 3.62.14? Now I have. No change. None of the changes I make in Message List Columns, whether it is one change or a combination, sticks. And I am unable to view message folders in any mode but threaded by reference. I just tried saving message column layouts and threading preferences using View Modes, and this doesn't work either. If there is something corrupt in my installation of 3.62.14, can you tell me how to remedy it? -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Message List Columns
Hi Stuart, On Thursday, November 10, 2005, 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S> Thursday, November 10, 2005, 11:37:01 AM, you wrote: PJ>> This is more than an annoyance. Until the bugs are actually fixed, can PJ>> any of you good people suggest a workaround? S> What is your setting Under Options/Preferences/Messages/Viewmodes. At S> the bottom of the screen it asks "When Viewmode was changed" should S> TB! Ask Confirmation for save, Ignore Changes or Save. If you have it S> set to Ignore Changes it will act as you are describing. It is set to Ignore Changes; and I have tried the other two settings as well. It makes no difference. (View mode is set to "none", by the way.) Thanks though. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: kansas is the fifth
Sorry, not meant for TBBeta. I'm having a few problems with my address book too. :-( On Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ> ... -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: kansas is the fifth
Hi Tony, On Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about NY: >> they have hurricanes there from time to time, not sure about >> earthquakes. But there will be hell to pay with rising water levels as >> the polar ice cap and Greenland melt. T> River levels seemed pretty stable when I went : I have an almost identical pic of our visit to NY a few years ago, with the Statue of Liberty in the background. We took the ferry to Ellis Island (where my grandparents came through). Did they have entertainers at the ferry line-ups when you were there? It was quite a festival. :-) I love NY. Guess I could wear the t-shirt in good conscience. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Message List Columns
When I make changes to Message List Columns and click OK, leave the folder and return to it later, the changes have not stuck. This was addressed by Ron Secord's bug report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5142 ...the status there seems to be "verify wait" (though under Issue History it says: "Fixed in Version => 3.62.1"). I'm not clear what "Verify wait" means? Also, when View, View threads by -- "None" is selected, upon return to the folder the messages are threaded by reference. I reported this in an earlier message: Under View, Global View Mode, I have it set to (No view mode). This is more than an annoyance. Until the bugs are actually fixed, can any of you good people suggest a workaround? Thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: View threads
Hello Robert, On Monday, November 7, 2005, 11:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Whatever option I choose with any folder is not continued >> the next time I open the folder. R> h ... wondering what else might be the cause as I just now R> selected group-by-date (which it did). Then I move the focus to the R> Kuvasz folder. A pop-up appeared Stating/Asking that the view mode had R> changed and if I wanted to save the new view mode... I've never used the View Mode options. For each folder I've set the columns I want, indicated how I want them listed (by date created, in my case) and selected View Threads by Reference. These settings always "stuck", until now. Now it's an adventure every time I open up a folder. Sometimes they are threaded for the first time, without my making any such setting. Sometimes they are grouped with oldest at the top, or at the bottom. It seems random. But I am experimenting now with View Modes. Thanks for your help. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
View threads
Hello, "View threads by"... is not working and this problem is new to this release. Whatever option I choose with any folder is not continued the next time I open the folder. Previous folders set to view by reference, for example, are not in any order when I return to the folder. I've never seen such a buggy TB! and would like to know if there is a previous and more stable version I could revert to. And in case it's not obvious, I'm not an expert and run trial versions because I love the program... so may not know all the correct terminology. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston :canadaflag: :texasflag: Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 11/6/2005 Current beta is 3.62.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Closes on mail check
Hello Vili, On Thursday, November 3, 2005, 6:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> When I have selected View unread messages only (either from the menu >> bar or using the tab) and TB! does an automatic mail check, the >> program closes... V> Rename your MAIL\tbuser.def file to tbuser.de , and try again. Yes, it worked; though a minor glitch: lost a custom toolbar. Thank you, Vili! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Closes on mail check
Hello, When I have selected View unread messages only (either from the menu bar or using the tab) and TB! does an automatic mail check, the program closes. It doesn't occur when I manually check for messages, however. This also happened with v3.60.07, which is why I upgraded. Oops. Can anyone confirm and if so, is there a bug already reported for this version? Thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Mysterious spam filtering
Hello Roelof, On Thursday, February 10, 2005, 3:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ>> There is also a Spam folder in the same account, and certain emails PJ>> end up there, even though they are not marked as spam by K9. For PJ>> example, Google alerts; and today an automated response from Dell PJ>> support ended up in the Spam folder. RO> Probably you've installed an anti-spam plug-in. When this wasn't RO> deliberately, it's likely to be BayesIt. RO> You can uninstall it at: RO> Options -> Preferences -> Protection -> Anti-spam Is the BayesIt filter installed by default? I didn't install it, though it was listed in Options--> Preferences--> Plugins. I deleted it there. Now the Dell Support responses are going to the Junk folder, although still not identified as spam by K9. I realize Dell support is not what it once was, but still... :-) Thanks for your help! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mysterious spam filtering
Hello, I am using K9 to filter spam, and it puts the spam messages into a "Junk" folder as specified by me in a filter. There is also a Spam folder in the same account, and certain emails end up there, even though they are not marked as spam by K9. For example, Google alerts; and today an automated response from Dell support ended up in the Spam folder. What or who is doing this filtering, if not K9? I have no other spam filters installed. Should I just delete the Spam folder? Thanks in advance. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Change during mail check
Hi Alexander, On Friday, December 17, 2004, 11:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> One of my accounts is set for periodic mail checks, and when it checks it >> jumps the focus to the inbox of that account. For example, I could be >> happily reading the tbbeta mail, when suddenly am shifted to the main >> account inbox. ASK> Could it be related to the setting in Preferences | Mailticker | Operation ASK> Mode? I don't think so, Alexander. I have the Operation Mode set to "Open new message viewer" (though I don't use the Mail Ticker). Also, the focus will jump to the inbox of the account even when there is no new mail to the inbox. Thanks for your suggestion. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Change during mail check
Hi Zeynel, On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 1:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> One of my accounts is set for periodic mail checks, and when it checks >> it jumps the focus to the inbox of that account. For example, I could >> be happily reading the tbbeta mail, when suddenly am shifted to the >> main account inbox. Z> The exact problem was happened here some time ago but I don't Z> recall in which version. The jumping issue was only happening one of Z> my account which is connecting to a news server via Mygate. It was the Z> only account that retreives a lot of messages really fast, because the Z> news server is in here in Turkey. I'm currenly using it with no Z> problems. All my accounts have the same set up/server (though this one has been troublesome in the past, inexplicably). I guess you never learned what the problem was? >> It's a minor annoyance, since I have to return to the folder I was >> using and re-expand threads etc. Z>... Z> It was a major annoyance for me because, every message TB! received Z> from buggy account was causing to jump that account's inbox, and Z> blocking me from selecting any folder. Fortunately the bug disappeared Z> later.. Yes I can see how it could become very annoying, especially if downloading a lot of mail from that account. Thanks for your comments-- good to know I'm not imagining things. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Change during mail check
Hi Ben, On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 1:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 11:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ One of my accounts is set for periodic mail checks, and when it PJ checks it jumps the focus to the inbox of that account. For PJ example, I could be happily reading the tbbeta mail, when suddenly PJ am shifted to the main account inbox. >>>... BA>>> How are you viewing your mail? In the ticker, a VF or in the main BA>>> window? I haven't been able to reproduce the behaviour with any of BA>>> these. PJ>> I'm viewing my mail in the main window. Just now I was reading mail in PJ>> a different account, and after the scheduled mail check was jumped to PJ>> the inbox of the other account. And, there doesn't have to be new mail PJ>> in the account inbox for this to occur. PJ>> It's a minor annoyance, since I have to return to the folder I was PJ>> using and re-expand threads etc. PJ>> Strange, huh? Thanks for trying to duplicate the behaviour anyway. :-) BA> You could try dling the latest beta... A good idea; I see you (who don't have the problem) and Zeynel (who used to have the same problem) are both running the latest release. Thanks Ben! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Change during mail check
Hello Ben, On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 11:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ>> One of my accounts is set for periodic mail checks, and when it PJ>> checks it jumps the focus to the inbox of that account. For PJ>> example, I could be happily reading the tbbeta mail, when suddenly PJ>> am shifted to the main account inbox. >... BA> How are you viewing your mail? In the ticker, a VF or in the main BA> window? I haven't been able to reproduce the behaviour with any of BA> these. I'm viewing my mail in the main window. Just now I was reading mail in a different account, and after the scheduled mail check was jumped to the inbox of the other account. And, there doesn't have to be new mail in the account inbox for this to occur. It's a minor annoyance, since I have to return to the folder I was using and re-expand threads etc. Strange, huh? Thanks for trying to duplicate the behaviour anyway. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Change during mail check
Greetings, One of my accounts is set for periodic mail checks, and when it checks it jumps the focus to the inbox of that account. For example, I could be happily reading the tbbeta mail, when suddenly am shifted to the main account inbox. I don't recall this happening on V3.01. Can anyone confirm? -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi Alexander, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 11:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> The CC hang doesn't occur every time I check for messages, just *some >> of the time, which might make it hard to track. But I would certainly >> be willing to see if there is a difference when BF is disabled. ASK> You could try a different (external) spam filter in case you desparately ASK> need it (while disabling/removing the Bayes* plugin in TB), in case you get ASK> a lot of spam; K9 from http://www.keir.net does a good job here. Yes I do get a lot of spam; before the BayesFilter plugin I was using SpamPal, which did an excellent job, but I started getting error messages and ended up going to BF. I will certainly have a look at K9... thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi Greg, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 11:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... GS> This maybe a good guess, however I run TB with BayesIt on WinXP Pro GS> SP2 and have no problem. I think earlier posts identified BayesFilter, as opposed to BayesIt, as the program that might be the problem. I am running BayesFilter on XP with SP2; and I should stress that there was no problem when the configuration was BF on my XP SP1. GS> IIRC you transferred all files over from old GS> computer which had a funky folder structure. True Paul, for some reason the folder was called TheBat2.0 no matter what version I installed... but the program ran flawlessly. >> Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail program, >> is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a back up,but >> will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it isn't too >> impractical to do so. GS> Before going to a new mail program what I would do is remove TB from GS> the new computer and do a clean install on it with the latest release GS> file from Ritlabs. I dread the thought of a "clean install" almost as much as the jump to a new email program. In any case, I did try a clean install here on the new computer; had to re-set up all the templates and settings... or would have if the hang problem didn't rear its ugly head before I could get all the settings in. GS>... GS> In order: GS> 1) Copy 'Mail' folder and all subdirectories someplace for save GS> keeping... GS>... Thanks for the step-by-step! It is just the kind of instruction I need if I do decide to re-install. GS> 6) Use registry key to register TB and see if TB works now. If it GS> doesn't you can shoot me. :-) My aim is bad, so don't worry. :-) Thanks again. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Sorry everyone; didn't mean to post this on TBETA. Apologies for remarks re: developers! :-) On Friday, November 26, 2004, 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ> Hi Mary, PJ> On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Yes, I am using Bayes Filter (never even tried BayesIt as so many >>> others seemed to have problems with it). Bayes Filter seems to work >>> just fine so far, and worked well on my old system. I'm among the >>> many fans of Achim Winkler who think Ritlabs should enable a plugin >>> for BF. >>> MB> If you are, this is the first I have ever heard of Bayes Filter >>> (Achim MB> Winkler's, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) >>> giving problems MB> to anyone. >>> I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... MB>> Yes, since the beginning of your difficulties coincided with starting MB>> to run TB! on XP SP2 as contrasted with no problems running TB! v. MB>> 3.0.1.33 on XP SP1. PJ> Rumor has it SP2 is more like a new OS, rather than just a big old PJ> patch, so it may be difficult to fix. >>> Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail >>> program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a >>> back up, but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it >>> isn't too impractical to do so. MB>> For the sake of this last paragraph, I'm CCing my reply to tbot. Some MB>> pretty good hardware/software techies over there, and the question MB>> approached in your last paragraph is SOT here, I think. PJ> lol I debated whether to include that paragraph or just send you a PM; PJ> but thought it wouldn't hurt to let the developers know (assuming they PJ> might possibly have read it??) that it's serious enough that a PJ> customer may jump ship. MB>> Was fine for you to include it. Just think more help about putting the MB>> extra hard drive in may be available on tbot. PJ> I agree 100%! PJ> Thanks, Mary. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi Mary, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Yes, I am using Bayes Filter (never even tried BayesIt as so many >> others seemed to have problems with it). Bayes Filter seems to work >> just fine so far, and worked well on my old system. I'm among the >> many fans of Achim Winkler who think Ritlabs should enable a plugin >> for BF. >> MB> If you are, this is the first I have ever heard of Bayes Filter >> (Achim MB> Winkler's, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) >> giving problems MB> to anyone. >> I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... MB> Yes, since the beginning of your difficulties coincided with starting MB> to run TB! on XP SP2 as contrasted with no problems running TB! v. MB> 3.0.1.33 on XP SP1. Rumor has it SP2 is more like a new OS, rather than just a big old patch, so it may be difficult to fix. >> Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail >> program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a >> back up, but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it >> isn't too impractical to do so. MB> For the sake of this last paragraph, I'm CCing my reply to tbot. Some MB> pretty good hardware/software techies over there, and the question MB> approached in your last paragraph is SOT here, I think. lol I debated whether to include that paragraph or just send you a PM; but thought it wouldn't hurt to let the developers know (assuming they might possibly have read it??) that it's serious enough that a customer may jump ship. MB> Was fine for you to include it. Just think more help about putting the MB> extra hard drive in may be available on tbot. I agree 100%! Thanks, Mary. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hi Mary, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 12:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I am also using BayesFilter, but was doing so on my old computer >> with no CC hang or download problems. Could it be a BF/SP2 problem? MB> Pat are you (and James as well) using Bayes Filter as opposed to MB> BayesIt? Yes, I am using Bayes Filter (never even tried BayesIt as so many others seemed to have problems with it). Bayes Filter seems to work just fine so far, and worked well on my old system. I'm among the many fans of Achim Winkler who think Ritlabs should enable a plugin for BF. MB> If you are, this is the first I have ever heard of Bayes Filter (Achim MB> Winkler's, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) giving problems MB> to anyone. I can't help but suspect some kind of SP2 conflict... Mary what I may end up doing, if I don't jump to another mail program, is installing my old hard drive into my new machine as a back up, but will keep the OS and maybe run TB! from there, if it isn't too impractical to do so. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Problems at shuwdown with 3.0.2.8
Hello James, On Friday, November 26, 2004, 11:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RvdH>> When shutting down TheBat I get the (in)famous dialog that says that "One or RvdH>> more connections is still active. Shutdown anyway ?". No matter which RvdH>> button I choose (Yes, No, Cancel) TheBat refuses to shutdown. The only RvdH>> thing that works is to kill it from the Taskmanager. JO> I haven't experienced this bug until I switched from bundled "BayesIt" to JO> "Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.0". Even though no tasks are listed JO> in the "connection centre" I can't close TB. That's exactly what was happening to me with v3.0.1.33 when I transferred TB! to a new computer; I hoped the bug had been resolved in this beta. But today the Connection Centre is "hanging" again, without downloading all messages. I am also using BayesFilter, but was doing so on my old computer with no CC hang or download problems. Could it be a BF/SP2 problem? JO> I have my "connection center" dialog set to automatically show and JO> hide when retrieving mail. Since I started using BF I've also noticed JO> the "connection center" window never hides anymore, even though JO> nothing is listed in it. And it is still "open"-- you probably can't shut down TB! without resorting to the Task Manager. Along with the hang, TB! will also leave messages on the server for days (even though I specified otherwise in account properties), but will download mulitiples of other messages. Very frustrating. ... JO> Is everyone experiencing this problem using BF, or any plugin for that JO> matter? Does the problem go away if all plugins are disabled/deleted? JO> Might be worth checking into... The CC hang doesn't occur every time I check for messages, just *some of the time, which might make it hard to track. But I would certainly be willing to see if there is a difference when BF is disabled. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: TB! betas won't stick
On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 3:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Thanks, Tony, I see where I was replacing the file incorrectly TB> I replied a bit late to you Pat because for some reason my posts are up TB> the Swany and it's taking them hours to get through. Hey Tony, no problem. My whole mail program has been up the same river all week. We're just finding dry land now. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: TB! betas won't stick
Hi Paul! On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 3:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PC> On Tuesday 23 November 2004 4:01 pm, P.Johnson wrote: >> Thanks, Tony, I see where I was replacing the file incorrectly. With >> luck this will solve the hang problem too. And if all else fails, I >> have my nice neat CD copy of a working version to revert to... PC> you can have a FINAL version installed, and install a beta in a different PC> folder, if you want to make sure you can run a good copy.. check the PC> archives, this was discussed a while back, something about starting the bat PC> from a shortcut with /REG=beta or something like that.. PC> that way, if the beta doesn't work right, you can always revert to your known PC> good copy ;) Thanks, what a great tip; I'll check the archives. Maybe a search of "shortcut"? -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: TB! betas won't stick
Hello Tony, On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 2:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I am attempting to install the latest TB! beta release over 3.0.1.33 TB> You don't install it Pat, you replace the exe file with the one from the TB> rar file. Unrar it directly to you Bat directory either overwriting the TB> existing or preferably rename the existing thebat.exe one first. Thanks, Tony, I see where I was replacing the file incorrectly. With luck this will solve the hang problem too. And if all else fails, I have my nice neat CD copy of a working version to revert to, thanks to you. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: TB! betas won't stick
Martin, On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 2:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ>> As long as I don't close and reopen after the install, I have the use PJ>> of the beta version. Since I've been having problems with downloads PJ>> with 3.0.1.33 I've been keeping TB beta release open on my system. :-) MW> How do you name the beta version? And do you use a shortcut or the MW> Start Menu to run TB!? Martin, that's done it! All I needed to do was rename the shortcut to the beta executable. Thank you!! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: TB! betas won't stick
Hi Raymund, On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 2:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RTT> What do you mean by install? As far as I know there is only an RTT> executable for 3.0.2.8. I meant open the executable file from my rar folder. Sorry I wasn't more clear. RTT> Do you get any messages when you start TB?... It seems it was a pretty simple problem relating to shortcuts, which I have corrected as you'll see in my reply to Martin. Thanks for your help! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: TB! betas won't stick
Hi Greg, On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 1:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I am attempting to install the latest TB! beta release over 3.0.1.33 >> (Home)-- but the beta won't stick-- it reverts back to 3.0.1.33 when I >> close and relaunch. GS> I don't know look at your signature line. >> Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack GS> If you are using macros, then I'd say you have the latest beta GS> installed. At least on the PC that your sending from. As long as I don't close and reopen after the install, I have the use of the beta version. Since I've been having problems with downloads with 3.0.1.33 I've been keeping TB beta release open on my system. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8, unless I close the program and relaunch, in which case it's v3.0.1.33, on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB! betas won't stick
Hello, I am attempting to install the latest TB! beta release over 3.0.1.33 (Home)-- but the beta won't stick-- it reverts back to 3.0.1.33 when I close and relaunch. Any ideas? I did check the archives but could find nothing that applied here. I have crept over to this group from TBUDL --not an advanced user but enjoy The Bat! very much (when it works :-) )-- and look forward to getting to know you all better. -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
