Re[5]: The Bat! 4.0
Hello Paul, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 12:22:57 PM, you wrote: > 10/13/2007 6:56 AM > Hi Xav, > On 10/13/2007 Xav wrote: X>> Anyone of any type wants or should want a programme that "just works". > ALL software has some type of limitations, even SecondCopy and > Irfanview, two of the best written programs of all time. It is our > responsibility to recognize it and set up our customers to work within > the limitations instead of exposing them to our prejudices. Learning > to work with "what is" is a most valuable position to take in life. Not if there is a better alternative, in your case that being not upgrading to later versions. X>> To not consider your customers costs in using your product comes under X>> the heading of "commercial suicide". > My customers have been using TB since 1999. Many of them are still > using v. 2.12 because it provides all their needs. I only expose my > customers to versions that suit their needs. I also do not use > versions with bugs that negatively affect them. I keep copies of > several versions' installation files. Most of these people were OE or > Outlook users. None have ever asked to go back. All of this is _my_ > responsibility, not Ritlabs, or any other publisher. Then you are fortunate in being able to influence your customers so much. > It is your responsibility to find the best combination of features and > functionality for your customers and it is your responsibility to > acknowledge the limitations and learn to work within them. We are at cross-purposes. If a company produces a product that requires too much support, it will lose out - customers (whether they be the IT department or end users) will go elsewhere. In your case this has been accomplished by not upgrading to later versions. > BTW, this > is my 20th year as a consultant and database application developer. > Some of my customers are using a DOS database application in Win98SE > because that is what works best for them. It is absurd to force them > to "upgrade" to something that will do less for them! I fully agree with you. > I recently built > a Win2K machine for a new customer who had purchased a Vista machine > prior to contacting me. They thank me over and over and I received > additional customer referrals from them because of it. Out of curiosity - why not XP? > All of my business is received by word of mouth from a satisfied customer > and I > have more than I want. Nice to hear that. -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! 4.0
Hello Gleason, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 3:08:11 AM, you wrote: > Gary, >> my definition of a production environment is that of using a software >> product day in and day out individually or within or upon a network of >> computers *without* problems. > Yes, that is what IT types want. I understand that Thunderbird gives > you that. That is not the way most people use an email client. It is > not the way I use it for that matter. It is the way IT managers use > it. Anyone of any type wants or should want a programme that "just works". > Yes, your support costs should be your largest concern. Ritlabs and > other developers should feel free to not consider this when they make > decisions. To not consider your customers costs in using your product comes under the heading of "commercial suicide". -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help re blank subject in message
Hello Alexander, Many thanks - worked a treat. > And do something about these hangs. :-) I cut it down and shot it :-)) -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.72.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Help re blank subject in message
Hello TBBETA, My PC hung last Monday or Tuesday while TB was running/collecting messages and The Bat! now has a number of messages with blank subject lines in the list window - they show correctly when the message is opened. Some of the messages also seem to have the received date shown incorrectly in the message list. Any way I can repair this? (Beta 3.62.12) Many thanks. -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.72.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Query re installation
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:38:58 +0200, Roelof Otten wrote: [snip] Many, many thanks Roelof. Worked a treat :-)) Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.61.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT: Query re installation
Hi, For various reasons, I nuked my C drive and re-installed Windows. The Bat folder is on the D drive.I thought I could just re-install over this to recreate any registry entries etc., but it keeps trying to go through a full re-installation, apparently not seeing the existing one. Is there any way to do this? Regards, Xav Current beta is 3.61.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mail collection with 3.5.35
Hello Xav, Friday, July 1, 2005, 9:54:12 AM, you wrote: > In 3.5.35, the Getmail icon appears to collect for all accounts. > However, in collecting in either way (icon or menu) I find that one > account continually "hangs" on collection, eventually giving a > "collection failed" error message. Oh, in addition I could not close the Bat as it kept saying that the were actions in progress (whilsat it was trying to collect from the one account) and i would not end these or close. Needed to use Task Manager to kill it. -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.5.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mail collection with 3.5.35
Hello tbbeta, I have a mail server collecting mail for three accounts, which I then collect via POP3into the Bat. In 3.5.30, clicking on the Getmail icon collected from just the active account. I used the drop down menu for Get Mail for All. In 3.5.35, the Getmail icon appears to collect for all accounts. However, in collecting in either way (icon or menu) I find that one account continually "hangs" on collection, eventually giving a "collection failed" error message. I went back to 3.5.30 and this error does not occur. -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.5.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.30
Hello Maxim, Sunday, June 19, 2005, 4:54:01 PM, you wrote: > If the beta .26-.29 didn't start normally, please confirm that it now starts > OK. It now starts fine, 26-29 craashed on the splash screen. Thanks. -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wrong threading (Was: Re: Distributed "AS IS")
Hello MAU, Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 12:33:20 AM, you wrote: > Hello Xav, > Your message was not threaded properly and trying to understand why I > looked at your headers and found: >> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.0.17) Professional > Just curious, why are you still using v3.5.0.17? Upgraded on my laptop but have been busy with a lot of other things and probably forgot on the main PC :-)) Although I think a later beta screwed up here and so I "down-graded". >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Goncalo Farias >> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Your In-Reply-To: and References: headers do not include Goncalo's MID > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to which you replied. > Instead, they reference MID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > which I can't find in my TBBeta folder or in my whole message base. > However, the References: header correctly includes the MID of my message > that started this thread <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > Can you or anybody explain what happened here? Hmmm, probably my perverse set-up :-)) I use email forwarding from a domain registration service, which comes in to an email server on a dedicated PC, which sorts the mail into particular accounts. I was/am using PMMail and this was the only way I could easily get mail for (whichever user)at glenmere.com into the approprate account mailbox. i.e. PMMail could only filter to folders in one account, not to separate accounts. -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Distributed "AS IS"
Hello Goncalo, Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 9:59:28 PM, you wrote: > The EULA are meant to protect the software companies from being sued. > If a software company must use the EULA to justify buggy software it > better get a new core business... like selling apples on the local > market. Well you could apply this to some of the biggest companies, never mind Ritlabs :-)) Just yesterday, as a for instance of how complex and inter-related problems can be, I set a password in the bios of my motherboard. Now, after entering the password, the SATA check takes ages UNLESS I hit return - but nowhere on screen am I asked to. Look at all the apps XP SP2 broke when issued. I have had trouble installing OS/2 on identical systems from Compaq - one went fine, the other never took. -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.0.16
Hello Tony, Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 9:31:55 AM, you wrote: > I can let you know now, I'm pretty sure they won't for the simple reason > you provided just the exe file and not a full msi installer. I haven't try 3.5.0.16 yet but did try just the exe file from .14 and still got the AVs. -- Best regards, Xav Current beta is 3.5.0.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.5.0.14
Hello Cees, Tuesday, May 24, 2005, 7:06:36 PM, you wrote: > the bad thing is, I tried to install the previous version over this one but > it still says I'm running that dot.14 version. > With the same bad beahviour. > Me not happy. :banshee: I installed 3.5 over this 3.5.0.14 but continued to have the same error. Plus there were two Bat entries in ADD/REMOVE programs. I uninstalled both (keeping the data) then reinstalled 3.5 which seems to be working OK. -- Best regards, Xavmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5.0.14
Hello Liz, Tuesday, May 24, 2005, 6:50:47 PM, you wrote: > I installed it, opened 1 msg, hit escape to close, "Invalid pointer" > followed by cascading errors till I forcefully terminated the process. And here. -- Best regards, Xavmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: highlight text to reply to ?
Hello Clive, Sunday, May 15, 2005, 10:48:55 AM, you wrote: > Highlight the text and hit F4. Thanks. -- Best regards, Xavmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: highlight text to reply to ?
Hello Manuel, Sunday, May 15, 2005, 10:49:38 AM, you wrote: > Yes, this is possible. > Mark the text, which you want to have quoted, right-click -> "message" -> > "reply quoting selected text". > Standard shortcut is "F4". Many thanks Manuel. -- Best regards, Xavmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
highlight text to reply to ?
Hello, I don't know if I am missing something, but is it possible in The Bat that when replying to a message, you can highlight that part you wish to respond to, click reply and only the highlighted text appears in the reply as opposed to the whole message? -- Best regards, Xav mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: RC8 Utilities : Insert : Cooke (SP!) Who is "Cooke"?
Hello MAU, Saturday, May 14, 2005, 12:58:13 PM, you wrote: > Hello Xav, >>> Oh, never >>> mind, I'm extremely happy--Miguel found out how to get the yellowish >>> icons back! :) >> >> How? > I have updated my batskin.xml file. You can now download it from: > http://www.rancho-k.com/yellowish_icons.zip Many, many thanks for this :-)) -- Best regards, Xavmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: RC8 Utilities : Insert : Cooke (SP!) Who is "Cooke"?
Hello Mary, Saturday, May 14, 2005, 2:12:49 AM, you wrote: > Oh, never > mind, I'm extremely happy--Miguel found out how to get the yellowish > icons back! :) How? -- Best regards, Xavmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: total disappointment
Hello Mic, Saturday, May 7, 2005, 12:44:33 AM, you wrote: > At 17:24 [GMT+0200] on Friday May 6 (actual time - 11:24pm on Friday in Perth, > Western Australia), you wrote: >>>> Maybe RIT guys eat too many prunes ;-) >>> >>> lol lol lol MAU>> :-) MAU>> I should have said 'virtual' prunes > It's part of the new security system: "On-the-fly encraption". Nah, that would never "pan out". -- Best regards, Xavmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
