Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hello Gary, G From one of my UNIX servers, using another client, you can see many G simultaneous connections, on just a few folders: It is correct, but now try to select one mailbox from different connections (or even clients). -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hi 9Val, On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:38:23 +0200 UTC (3/10/2005, 3:38 AM -0600 UTC my time), 9Val wrote: 9 It is correct, but now try to select one mailbox from different 9 connections (or even clients). It is the same, the below is from using not only the same mailbox, but also reading the same email within that mailbox, using Outlook 2003 and Mulberry for the test. This is in my LAN Unix IMAPS server. tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.2203 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.2202 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.2199 ESTABLISHED The same multiple connections are showed on a different IMAP server, MDaemon in XP, coming in from the WAN (Internet) on different connections, into the same mailbox using Mulberry and TheBat!. Only the listed established IP addresses are obviously different. -- Gary Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP: moving mails to server (was: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 9Val: And now to something slightly different: What about the issue, that TheBat! loses eMails larger than ~1MB when moving mails from local to a remote directory via IMAP? I selected to automatically move sent eMails to the Sent-dir on the server which works for small emails but not for eMails with 1MB or higher size. TheBat! opens the task to move, does something but after some time, the task disappears and the mail is still local - not on the server. TB! has this behavior since v2.xx and it is impossible to move bigger eMails. Afaik this is a well known issue (at least in german boards are a lot of users with the same problem) and it's still in the pre-beta release, so what about a fix at last? I have this problem with each of my imap-accounts on differents providers. Moving with Thunderbird, KMail etc. is working well. Michael - -- Die kleinen Alltagsleistungen setzen viel mehr Energie in die Welt als die seltenen heroischen Taten. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! Fingerprint: 5E4A 25B3 0B24 4C5C 7668 7A66 C127 968D E59F D50D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCMFwMwSeWjeWf1Q0RAj/0AKDvJ7sxyp7tJq5DcgcL4n+lqd4PawCfTHFU mEGP8WAdbnPNGxFISa7b/6c= =V7Mu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hello Gary, G It is the same, the below is from using not only the same mailbox, but also G reading the same email within that mailbox, using Outlook 2003 and Mulberry G for the test. This is in my LAN Unix IMAPS server. You have good server, not all servers allow that. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: moving mails to server (was: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test)
Hello Michael, MS I selected to automatically move sent eMails to the Sent-dir on the Do you mean it is done by outgoing filter? Have you tried manual moving/coping to IMAP? -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hi 9Val, On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:57:50 +0200 UTC (3/10/2005, 9:57 AM -0600 UTC my time), 9Val wrote: 9 You have good server, not all servers allow that. LOL... I think pretty much most IMAP servers are that way, Binc and I think, Courier are on Unix/Linux (I use Binc as you know), and I am using MDaemon Pro in XP for IMAPS also.. I don't know about UW-IMAP as I have never used it. But it makes sense, any connection to the server is just another socket connection, and its only limitation is that of the OS as to number of total sockets. Regarding locking of a mailbox in IMAP, there can't be any. An example would be a public mailbox on an enterprise IMAP server which might have 100, 200, 500 or more simultaneous connections to it at any given time, so it can't be locked, as a POP3 mailbox would. I also think the type of mailbox is important also in the way it stores email on an IMAP server. Examples, in the mbox format style, all mail is stored on one spool, versus the Maildir format where each email is stored as individual email, not on one spool. Therefore, there is no mbox spool locking required when new mail arrives to be appended to the spool, or to be read by the user(s). Binc, Courier, and MDaemon work on Maildir type formats, each email separate, therefore making multiple accesses to the same email, in the same mailbox possible. -- Gary Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hello Allie, AM However, when I ran the test at work multiple times, TB! AM said some of the connections failed and that there may be a AM problem with the server. Right. :) I doubt the problem is AM with the server. Problem is not only in server, but in collaboration with such server. As I wrote before, only server I know which correctly supports multiple connections is BatPost. It allows access to the same mailbox from simultaneous connections without any problems. Other servers do not allow such features so TB! performs heuristic client-side folder locking. Since every server has own opinion about how to handle such simultaneous requests, it is not so easy to find the best pattern to queue requests. AM Additionally at work, messages frequently don't load and I AM have to use the reload option and though I can read AM messages, I'm still waiting a while for some to load. The WIP :) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hi 9Val, On 9/3/2005 5:26 AM, you wrote: Problem is not only in server, but in collaboration with such server. As I wrote before, only server I know which correctly supports multiple connections is BatPost. It allows access to the same mailbox from simultaneous connections without any problems. Other servers do not allow such features so TB! performs heuristic client-side folder locking. Since every server has own opinion about how to handle such simultaneous requests, it is not so easy to find the best pattern to queue requests. Hmmm. I wonder how ThunderBird does it? It has 9 connections established with MDaemon. AM Additionally at work, messages frequently don't load and I AM have to use the reload option and though I can read AM messages, I'm still waiting a while for some to load. The WIP That abbreviation beats me. -- _ _ _ __ __ __ _| | (_)___ | \/ | / _` | | | / -_) | |\/| | \__,_|_|_|_\___|_|_| |_| |___| -=-=- Spell chequers dew knot work write. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hi Allie, The original quoted text below was written on 09/03/2005 10:47 my local time; Hmmm. I wonder how ThunderBird does it? It has 9 connections established with MDaemon. Likewise, I've 18 connections with Thunderbird and MDaemon right now. WIP That abbreviation beats me. Unless I'm wrong myself, I believe it to be Work In Progress. -- Chris. Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Het was op woensdag 9 maart 2005 om 11:47 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'IMAP: Problems with connection on running test' : Hallo Allie, WIP A That abbreviation beats me. Waiting In Patience?? -- regards, Cees All Bibles are man-made - Thomas Alva Edison __ The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0510-0, 08-03-2005 Tested on: 9-3-2005 11:57:40 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hello all, Wednesday, March 9, 2005, Cees wrote: WIP A That abbreviation beats me. Waiting In Patience?? It is Work In Progres, I think :-) -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hello Allie, A Hmmm. I wonder how ThunderBird does it? It has 9 connections A established with MDaemon. My working account on uw-imap works with 9 connections without any problem. Unfortunately I have too slow connection to your test account, so it can't be used for good debugging :( WIP A That abbreviation beats me. Work in progress -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hi 9Val, On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:26:05 +0200 UTC (3/9/2005, 4:26 AM -0600 UTC my time), 9Val wrote: 9 Problem is not only in server, but in collaboration with such server. 9 As I wrote before, only server I know which correctly supports 9 multiple connections is BatPost. It allows access to the same mailbox 9 from simultaneous connections without any problems. Other servers do 9 not allow such features so TB! performs heuristic client-side folder 9 locking. Since every server has own opinion about how to handle such 9 simultaneous requests, it is not so easy to find the best pattern to 9 queue requests. From one of my UNIX servers, using another client, you can see many simultaneous connections, on just a few folders: tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.1162 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.1161 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.1160 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.1159 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.1150 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.1149 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.1148 ESTABLISHED -- Gary Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hi all, There's a 'test' button beside the IMAP tuning option on how many connections to the server are allowed. I ran the test at home and it was fine. No problems found. However, when I ran the test at work multiple times, TB! said some of the connections failed and that there may be a problem with the server. Right. :) I doubt the problem is with the server. Additionally at work, messages frequently don't load and I have to use the reload option and though I can read messages, I'm still waiting a while for some to load. The overall performance is well, flaky when compared to ThunderBird under similar conditions. I still can't make the transition to IMAP from work. IMAP seems to work fine with TB! connecting to the IMAP server on this same machine. -- _ _ _ __ __ | IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.9.4 Return __ _| | (_)___ | \/ | |IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro / _` | | | / -_) | |\/| | | -=-=- \__,_|_|_|_\___|_|_| |_| | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) |___| Detour: The roughest distance between two points. pgp2F2yZvsIis.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
