Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[Boris Anders]

Hello MAU,

Mau wrote (in ):

> Statistics are not correct and can't be trusted, at least in 3.0.9.5.
> It looks like "Tested" starts with a random value.

Can't confirm. Maybe value is stored from last time?


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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[MAU]

Hello Boris,

> Maybe value is stored from last time?

This is what 9Val said:

> Actually   filter  statistics  is correct for that session only, since
> saving  is  too  expensive  operation  to  be  done  every time it was
> tested/triggered.



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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[Boris Anders]

Hello MAU,

Mau wrote (in ):

>> Maybe value is stored from last time?

> This is what 9Val said:

>> Actually   filter  statistics  is correct for that session only, since
>> saving  is  too  expensive  operation  to  be  done  every time it was
>> tested/triggered.

If I understand it correctly, it's not true for me - filter statistics
are saved after a reboot of TheBat! Confirmations?


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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[MAU]

Hello Boris,

> If I understand it correctly, it's not true for me - filter statistics
> are saved after a reboot of TheBat! Confirmations?

It looks like you are right. 9Val?

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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[9Val]

Hello MAU,  

>> If I understand it correctly, it's not true for me - filter statistics
>> are saved after a reboot of TheBat! Confirmations?

M> It looks like you are right. 9Val?

Like  I said before, to save filter all times statistic changes is too
expensive,  so  it  doesn't. But if you've changed filter all changes,
including   statistics  are  saved.  In  most  cases  my  filters  are
once-composed longtime-used and therefore contain only session
information. Do you like statistics to be just for an session?

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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Monday, March 14, 2005, 13:56, 9Val wrote:

> Like  I said before, to save filter all times statistic changes is too
> expensive,  so  it  doesn't. But if you've changed filter all changes,
> including   statistics  are  saved.  In  most  cases  my  filters  are
> once-composed longtime-used and therefore contain only session
> information. Do you like statistics to be just for an session?

It must be consistent, either always save statistics or never save them.
Do not let it depend on whether filters are changed or not.

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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[MAU]

Hello Marcus,

> It must be consistent, either always save statistics or never save them.
> Do not let it depend on whether filters are changed or not.

Fully agree with you. But if statistics are saved, there must also be a
way to reset them to 0's.

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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[Boris Anders]

Hello 9Val,

9Val wrote (in ):

> Do you like statistics to be just for an session?

I agree with Marcus and MAU:

[X] Activate statistics for this filter

Tested: x times
Child tested:   x times
Triggered|Matched:  x times
Child triggered:x times
Efficienc:  x %

[Reset Filter] [Copy Statistics to Clipboard]


I personally won't use the statistics (but would like to see some other
features for NFS), but as it's already implemented I suggest that it
look like above. You can say whether filter statistics is created or not
- if yes, it should be saved every time, and the possibility of a reset
must be given.

In far future you might be add a button "copy statistics to clipboard"
and maybe some things like

Tested since startx times
Created atdd/mm/ hh:mm
Last change atdd/mm/ hh:mm

Oh, at last one thing: I'm very bad in english, but is matched better
than triggered?

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