Re[2]: A 'Kill dupes' problem

2004-11-07 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Tony,

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 4:17:31 PM, among other things, you wrote:


TB>  Occasionally I buy software off the web, The Bat, Time & Chaos, Acronis,
TB>  MailwasherPro, NOD32 and Kerio to name a few. They send me an email with
TB>  all my registration details, I put it in an archive folder, Park it and
TB>  don't have to worry about accidentally deleting it.

TB>  I have deliberately made multiple duplicates of all of these both on CD, SD
TB>  and USB memory sticks just in case...  It's invariably TB! I look to first
TB>  should I need them.

Yes,  but  these  'duplicates'  are  all  stored in different media or
different  folders.   The  TB  'Kill  dupes'  feature  only deals with
duplicates  which  occur  within a single folder.  It does NOT compare
the contents of a folder with the contents of any other folder.

As proof of this in my own setup let me explain part of it:
ALL  of  my outgoing mail is copied to the 'Sent mail' folder, some of
the  messages  are also copied to one or more folders according to the
Addressee,  the  Subject,  or some other identifying feature.  Routine
maintenance  which  includes 'Remove duplicates' has never removed any
of  these multiple copies.  They are not duplicates in the sense which
'Kill dupes' operates.


TB> Unlike a lot of people, I delete most of the mail I receive especially when
TB> a thread I'm participating in is finished. I then go on a frenzied deletion
TB> spree. But there is the occasional one I want to keep so I park it just in
TB> case I get too click happy.

I  do  the same, for the same reasons.  But, as I have explained in my
other  reply to you, TB has created duplicates within a single folder.
I'm  not  certain  when  this happened but assume it probably occurred
during the period when we were all battling to sort out the new filter
system and were making numerous tests.

Given my comments here, can you give me a good and sensible reason why
anybody  would  want  to  keep duplicates of a message within the same
folder?

In response to those who are suggesting that we cannot trust the 'Kill
dupes'  feature  I'd  remind  them that it is prudent to make a backup
before carrying out any cleanup action, in any application.

I await your responses with keen anticipation.  


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Best regards,
 Roger

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Re[2]: A 'Kill dupes' problem

2004-11-07 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Tony,

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 12:51:01 PM, among other things, you wrote:

RP>> Any comments?

TB>  Yes, the idea of parking a message is to protect it from exactly what your
TB>  trying to do with it, deleting it!

Yes,  I  AM aware of the reason for parking!   I was only asking about
deleting DUPLICATES.

RP>> If  it  is, 'as designed', then IMHO it should be changed.

TB> Please don't, I use it quite a lot and I like the idea of being able to
TB> "Idiot proof" the odd email or two, duplicate or not.

OK  you've  given a good reason for not changing the system.  Hence my
reason  for  asking  for comments in the first place before taking any
untoward action.

I  too  keep all my archival material as 'parked'.  But due to some of
the  strange  and  unexpected  actions  of  TB I found that I had also
accumulated quite a large number of unsolicited parked duplicates!

 Thanks  to everyone who replied so promptly.

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Best regards,
 Roger

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on Windows ME, version 3000, Build 90



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Re[2]: A 'Kill dupes' problem

2004-11-07 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Dierk,

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 11:02:51 AM, among other things, you wrote:


>> Any comments?

DH> I think it is intentional. I also think it is logical: When I want to
DH> lock a message (which is what "Park" does), I don't want to have it
DH> deleted regardless of a duplicate purge.

 I  disagree.   If  you want to have a duplicate you can make one, but
 why would you want to STORE one?


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Best regards,
 Roger

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on Windows ME, version 3000, Build 90



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