Re[2]: Exchange Usability
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ASK On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:15:10 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not create a filter that does so on a hotkey? ASK I appreciate the creativity in seeking for workarounds for the ASK problem, but no matter how hard you try, it'll still be a ASK workaround. :-) I FULLY agree with you Alex. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias He who worships Divine Duck will soon sing swan song. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Exchange Usability
Hello Marek, Monday, July 11, 2005, 12:36:41 PM, you wrote: when was .MSG used before, *many* users asked to change it to EML, because OE users are unable to see MSG attachments sent by TB, because OE is unable to display that, only EML is allowed. OMG... why wasn't that made configurable? The difference between the two is the extension and nothing else. And now, what You want to do? I want to do nothing, I'm not the programmer. :-) I just said that it is a bit paradox to offer Exchange connectivity and NOT use the Exchange default client's format for HTML forwards. Nevertheless, I *still* hope that some day we will get real HTML forwarding (ie. not as an attachment)... -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Exchange Usability
7/11/2005 7:32 AM Hi Marek, On 7/11/2005 Marek Mikus wrote: MM when was .MSG used before, *many* users asked to change it to EML, MM because OE users are unable to see MSG attachments sent by TB, because MM OE is unable to display that, only EML is allowed. MM And now, what You want to do? As part of the IMAP setup offer an option to change the file extension. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Exchange Usability
7/11/2005 1:09 PM Hi Alexander, On 7/11/2005 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: As part of the IMAP setup offer an option to change the file extension. ASK Why only IMAP? Everyone should be able to send the attachments the way they ASK want. In my experiences defaulting to OE file format reaches more people. IMAP users are more inclined to be corresponding with Outlook users. Always attempting to provide interoperability with M$ is not valuable IMO. We need more people with courage to educate and change the M$ stranglehold if we are to improve. At this point, all of my customers are now using OpenOffice 2 or WordPerfect 12 and they are very happy about it. As long as we keep licking M$ boots instead of offering a better alternative we sentence ourselves to a lot more boot licking. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Exchange Usability
7/11/2005 1:02 PM Hi Alexander, On 7/11/2005 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK Do you think anyone in a business environment uses Outlook Express? Sadly, in the US there are many small to mid-size businesses using OE. I have to deal with them constantly. Fortunately, most of them are now TB converts and none wants to go back, even the die-hard OE users. I set up TB for them and ask for one week of use and they never want to regress back to OE. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Exchange Usability
Hello Alexander, Open the original mail, Forward, in the editor window save the attach, rename and attach again. Don't tell me you think this is a solution. I don't know how many of these darn HTML mail a day I forward to my co-workers. It is only a workaround. I just said that it is a bit paradox to offer Exchange connectivity and NOT use the Exchange default client's format for HTML forwards. B.lls..t :) Assign EML to Outlook, and case solved. You haven't thought about this, Vili. :)) Yes I did, I only did not know A fact, see below. 2. You can associate EML with Outlook as much as you want, Outlook won't open it. Just like Word won't open MP3. Ok, this is the point, I overlooked this point, sorry. Even if this would work, in our small small company alone its 11 client PCs. Do you think I should go to each of these client PCs, log in as administrator, associate .EML with Outlook? Do you really think that in a business environment, anyone will do that, because I *try* to use TB over Exchange/MAPI? Do you think anyone in a business environment uses Outlook Express? If the association would work: What you are saying is this: EVERYTHING must conform to Outlook, even to its stupid things, because that is used by the most people. I am curious, what would you do, if Outlook 2006 will decide to use EML and not MSG... The whole world will change? :( Isn't it a LITTLE strange, that EML is open by OE and MSG with Outlook??? Why email clients must confirm this mixed up method of MS??? Why TB! can open each of them? TB can open both of them, but thats not the problem. TB should be able to *send* both of them. It can. Configurable. Or better yet, forward HTML not as attachments, but via the HTML editor... To end our discussion: this would be the solution. (Or teach the users that sending one sentence they dont have to include their whole bibliography, names of dogs, pictures of grandchildren, etc. as attachment... :(( -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Exchange Usability
Hello Alexander, TB can open both of them, but thats not the problem. TB should be able to *send* both of them. It can. Then please tell me how I can switch from .EML to .MSG as a default. You cannot switch. But you can send EML or MSG. That's what I said. Until it solved, you have to play the save EML, rename, MSG attach game... -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Exchange Usability
Hello Dwight, I thought that alternate forward forwarded the message in one of those formats, but what I thought was going to do that when I tested just forwarded the message I was testing in it's original plain text format. Yes, that is good only for text messages... What Alexander wants is attach as MIME with .MGS extension... I guess, Alexander, you have to do this: send a WISH. It is easy to implement. -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
