Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2007-01-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
1/2/2007  5:45 PM

Hi Maxim,

On 1/2/2007 Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM> Thank you, we will take care of the bug
MM> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6158

Thank You Very Much!

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2007-01-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
1/2/2007  5:22 PM

Hi Nick,

On 1/2/2007 Nick Danger wrote:

ND> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6158

ND> Hopefully I didn't botch protocol too awfully bad.

Just added my .02.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2007-01-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
1/2/2007  4:02 PM

Hi Peter,

On 1/2/2007 Peter Ouwehand wrote:

PO> Hello Paul Van Noord,

PO> on Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:32:27 -0500 (2007-01-02 21:32:27 in .nl) in the
PO> message with reference  you
PO> [PN] wrote (at least in part):

PVN>> It is available at [Other Options]. See Attached.

PO> I know. However, the tree on the left (in Voyager) is missing the
PO> Updates entry (see attached PNG from TB Preferences on how it should
PO> look). That's why the Other Options items in Voyager are mixed up and,
PO> as Nick wrote, the SmartBat options are actually unavailable.

Confirmed. I never looked beyond seeing Updates had moved down to
other options but I agree it is the missing Updates entry that is the
cause.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2007-01-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
1/2/2007  3:59 PM

Hi Nick,

On 1/2/2007 Nick Danger wrote:

ND> But are all the nested menus under there okay?

ND> For at least three of us they are out of sync with smart bat functions
ND> missing.

You are right, Character Sets dialog is missing and the others appear
one below where they belong and that leaves Smart Bat out of luck.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2007-01-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
1/2/2007  2:51 PM

Hi Peter,

On 1/2/2007 Peter Ouwehand wrote:

PO> Hello Nick Danger,

PO> on Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:27:02 -0600 (2007-01-02 18:27:02 in .nl) in the
PO> message with reference  you
PO> [ND] wrote (at least in part):

ND>> Thanks for any confirmation or lack thereof.

PO> Confirmed, the Updates entry appears to be missing from the tree on
PO> the left side.

It is available at [Other Options]. See Attached.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2007-01-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
1/2/2007  12:35 PM

Hi Nick,

On 1/2/2007 Nick Danger wrote:

ND> Am I the only one that has the Options|Preferences menu acting wacky
ND> with everything below "Other options" are out of whack?

ND> It's been this way with this and the release previous to this for me.
ND> But fine with any version prior to those.

ND> I swear I thought others had stated the problem but I've slept many
ND> times since then and may be recalling things wrong.

ND> Thanks for any confirmation or lack thereof.

Sorry, but it works as expected here.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2006-12-31 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Guten Morgen,


TF> I've never had runtime errors with Voyager.

I have - on average about one runtime error every two hours. But I'm
delighted to agree that the latest Voyager version is much better
here. I've seen errors here, too, but there are so few of them that I
can't give a similar "average per hour". There's indeed progress here.


TF> I also find that the reaction speed depends on the host computer.

Certainly. However, my impression is that the new version is quicker
on the same machine I had been using before.


AS>> However, still no MessageList/"Column AutoWith" option, not in
AS>> TheBat nor in Voyager:
TF> I don't know what you mean. When I run Voyager on computers that have
TF> different monitor resolutions, of course I need to adjust, but I don't
TF> say that's Voyager's fault.

No, not "of course", and indeed it is:

Up to TheBat v3.0.1.33 there used to be an option in message
list/setup columns named "Autosize". When it was checked, the
columns kept their ratio towards each other, but were always scaled up
to fill the whole width of the window. If you opened TheBat on a small
screen, all the columns were shrunk proportionally, if you used a
large screen, they were expanded over the whole window width so no
space was wasted. In the newer versions of TheBat (Voyager didn't
exist back then) this option has been removed without a replacement.
It is only since that you have to fiddle with column widths every time
you switch screens.

This is why I'm still using TheBat v3.0.1.33. Incidentally, this
affair is also why I'm not recommending TheBat any more neither for
private nor for business use any more.


TF> With TB!, it is installed on a PC, and the resolution isn't
TF> changed that often.

Not here: I have an installation on which the same message base files
are used by multiple clients over a network. This way, not every
client has to fetch new mail for itself and laptops can be easily
synchronized using Windows Offline Folders. Naturally, not all of the
machines have the same screen width, and some users even like
different view schemes than others. But the view modes are not stored
locally, but in the message base. There can only be one view mode
for one folder on the whole network. With "Autosize" that could be
worked around, without the option it cannot.


TF> Am I misunderstanding you?

Not at all, but maybe you only know the crippled versions of TheBat.
There were versions before that worked like the user wished to, not
uses that worked the way RIT wished them to. That were the times when
you could recommend TheBat whole heartedly. Well, "The times they are
a-changin'."



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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2006-12-30 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/30/2006  10:25 AM

Hi Thomas,

On 12/30/2006 Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> I've never had runtime errors with Voyager. I also find that the
TF> reaction speed depends on the host computer.

Neither have I had errors. I find that Win 2K is significantly faster
than XP when using USB 2 even when the 2K machine has less horsepower
than the XP machine.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2006-12-30 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/30/2006  10:16 AM

Hi MAU,

On 12/30/2006 MAU wrote:

M> Please do not insist. _I_ want to decide if I want to be protected or
M> not. Period.

I hear you _and_ I understand. However, you seem to miss the total
purpose of Voyager. It grew out of Secure Bat with security as a
primary purpose. If you want a new product that doesn't have security
as a primary purpose, go for it. Just do not attempt to adulterate a
product that performs its primary purpose well. You are not without a
choice. I hate Windows but use it because it is best for my customers.
I could just as easy use Linux or Mac. However, I sincerely doubt that
any of them will change to suit my personal wishes.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2006-12-30 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/30/2006  9:22 AM

Hi MAU,

On 12/29/2006 MAU wrote:

M> Aside of that I understand that, when using OTFE, folders (and file
M> names?) in disk have 'funny unrecognisable names'. If it is true, I
M> don't like that at all.

Like using Windows, you gradually get used to it.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2006-12-30 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/30/2006  9:09 AM

Hi MAU,

On 12/29/2006 MAU wrote:

M> Hello Thomas,

M>>> I have never tried Vogager. Is there a possibility of doing so without
M>>> using OTFE?
>>
>> No, Voyager uses OTFE by default, and it cannot be turned off.

M> I don't know why it shouldn't be optional. I hate it when someone else
M> decides what I should do or not do. I'd probably use it if I could run
M> it without encryption.

Removing OTFE from Voyager is akin to removing your antivirus and
firewall. OTFE is purely protecting you. It is so easy to misplace a
flash drive. I have been using Voyager since its inception and it has
been used exclusively for many months. I attempted to use it as Thomas
does but I make extended (4 weeks or more) trips and have found it
more convenient to make periodic backups to my hard drive from the
flash drive. Also, since I am in places of questionable privacy my
email is always with me in a form that is not valuable to anyone else.

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Re[2]: Voyager 3.95.06

2006-12-28 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Simon,

Thursday, December 28, 2006, 15:53:21, you wrote:

>>I've installed over previous version and all appears to be well.
Thank you for the prompt reply!

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