Re: changing shortcuts

2002-08-20 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 8:57:09 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote:

> No. Not buggier. You assigned the shortcut for 'Mark Thread as Read'
> to memo view. 'Mark Thread as read' only works when message list is
> focused, that's why you're in this trouble.

and there is another shortcut editor bug for not reporting the
ctrl-shft-m conflict on making the change.

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Re: changing shortcuts

2002-08-20 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 8:57:09 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote:

> No. Not buggier. You assigned the shortcut for 'Mark Thread as Read'
> to memo view. 'Mark Thread as read' only works when message list is
> focused, that's why you're in this trouble.

> I don't know why you're unable to change it back to it's default, maybe
> the assigned function is executed when you want to set the shortcut, THIS
> would in fact be a bug.

I took your advice, and deleted shortcut.cfg

and I can report that the shortcut shows to be ctrl-shft-i in the
shortcut editor and the view pull down.  ctrl-shft-i, however does not
open OR close the memo window, regardless where the focus, message
list, preview pane, account tree, or menu window.

I think that qualifies as buggier yet.

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Re: changing shortcuts

2002-08-20 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Dwight,

in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written:

DAC> In the browse window, the hotkey won't open OR close the memo window.
DAC> Even stranger--buggier.

No. Not buggier. You assigned the shortcut for 'Mark Thread as Read' to
memo view. 'Mark Thread as read' only works when message list is focused,
that's why you're in this trouble.

I don't know why you're unable to change it back to it's default, maybe
the assigned function is executed when you want to set the shortcut, THIS
would in fact be a bug.

Nevertheless you can delete 'SHORTCUT.CFG' file in your mail-dir and have
reset all shortcuts to it's default values, if you need.

I don't even understand why _suddenly_ a moaning about TB! shortcuts is
coming up, they are in that state for months, if not years, right now.
The biggest problem with them is: it's sooo much of them you can't avoid
binding some twice but focus related.
You only have 104/5 (+/- a few) keys on your keyboard, as nearly all of us.
And there's only a limited number of combinations possible, that don't
force you to get a sixth or seventh finger on each hand or using your feet
additionally to your hands for pressing the shortcuts.
And the simple logic is (taken the example of +F):
Most people know this from searching in their favorite text editor.
But it's also known as 'Forward message'.
So simply imagine you've turned off preview pane ... what will +F do
for you? Right, forward.
Well, to search the message text you'll simple have to be _in message
text_. And that's the whole simple logic behind.
It might not be the very best solution, but for _me_ this is near to it, as
I don't need the surgeon every evening to correct my fingers, just because
I used some _really strange_ shortcuts ("+++T, ,
" or similar crap stuff).

Reading your posting I get the impression the shortcut editor wasn't a
great idea, people assign shortcuts wild and without fear and blame The
Bat! for behaving 'strange' or even 'buggie'.
OK, checking routines have to be improved, but it's shown one more time:
most often the error is not inside the tower-case, but sitting in front of
the keyboard.
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Peter Palmreuther
(The Bat! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2)

"No Woody!, I said TUCK the kids in bed!" -Mia


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Re: changing shortcuts

2002-08-20 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 7:15:52 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote:

> I changed the shortcut to ctrl-shft-m, and could get it to open but
> not close the memo window, or visa-versa (don't remember which).

and in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the thread is 'Re:
Searching within a message,' it says

>>> This is bad behaviour.
> 
>> Agreed - but so many of the keyboard shortcuts require specific panes
>> to be in focus before they work (read next message for example). I'd
>> really like shortcuts to ALWAYS do what they say on the can, but sadly
>> they don't.
> 
> Correct, but these shortcuts are not explicitly defined in the menus.
> There is a difference between hidden shortcuts (or shortcuts which is
> only shown in a special pane popup menu) and one which is always defined
> through the menus but not always working as defined.

I figured out that I could only close, not open the memo field then,
because I was focused in the message list, not the preview pane. The
memo window can be closed but not opened with the hot key when focused
on the message in the message window, but if you shift the focus into
the message the hot key will open the memo window.

This is bad behavior. It makes as much sense to me to want to open the
memo window to either view or add a memo when I am focused on the list
as when focused on text. I browse with the focus on the message list
as often as not. Interestingly, if you are in the account tree, the
hotkey works like it should. Why it doesn't work that way when focused
on the message list is pretty strange. Seems like a definite bug to
me.

In the browse window, the hotkey won't open OR close the memo window.
Even stranger--buggier.

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