ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[mark davidson]

these may not be considered 'bugs' on all fronts.  i nevertheless feel they are 
worth mentioning.

1.  TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and instead 
creates a message in the last used account.  to the best of my knowledge, this 
has never worked properly.

2.  CTRL-DEL doesn't delete the entire following word in the the plain text 
(windows) editor.  this worked properly in a prior version although i can't say 
which one at this point.

3.  i sort messages by date descending and read oldest to newest (bottom up).  
the 'follow previous' toolbar icon loops to the oldest message in the list once 
the last new message has been read.  to my way of thinking, TB should exit 
message reading mode at this point or pop up a dialogue indicating that all 
messages have been read.

thanks/regards, ..

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Mary Bull]

Hello Mark!

On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 7:23 PM, you wrote:

> 3. i sort messages by date descending and read oldest to newest
> (bottom up). the 'follow previous' toolbar icon loops to the oldest
> message in the list once the last new message has been read. to my
> way of thinking, TB should exit message reading mode at this point
> or pop up a dialogue indicating that all messages have been read.

That's the order in which I read also, in a View Folder window. And I
use the "Follow Previous" toolbar button to move up to the next unread
message.

Prior to v. 3.5, if my memory isn't too far wrong, the button would
not bring up another message when there were no more unread messages.
Instead, nothing happened--the currently viewed message stayed in the
window.

Then came a period with the new interface where the focus jumped
randomly anywhere in the folder.

At least, consistently now it goes to the bottom of the message list.
For me, since I thread by none, this means that I always see the first
message in my folder--which happens to be a TB! Welcome Message from
2002.

Then (by now it's automatic), I click the Follow Next button and I'm
back at the top.

I would prefer the old behavior, where the window stayed open, focused
on the last read message when there are no more unread messages left.

I would find a dialogue box a distraction.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Vili]

Hello mark,

> 1.  TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment
> and instead creates a message in the last used account.  to the best
> of my knowledge, this has never worked properly.

Yes, it worked and it works. On my 3 PCs.

It indicates that at you none of your accounts is assigned to URLs...

> 2.  CTRL-DEL doesn't delete the entire following word in the the
> plain text (windows) editor.  this worked properly in a prior
> version although i can't say which one at this point.

It works at me perfectly.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[MAU]

Hello mark,

> 1.  TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and instead 
> creates a
> message in the last used account.  to the best of my knowledge, this has 
> never worked
> properly.

Confirmed. Do you know if there is a bug report logged in BugTrack? If
there is or if you open one, I will support it.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Robert D.]

Recently, MAU squawked:

>> message in the last used account.
> Confirmed. Do you know if there is a bug report logged in BugTrack?
> If there is or if you open one, I will support it.

I reported this several versions ago via the email path and was
replied with the fact a BT HAD been opened.



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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Robert D.]

Recently, Vili squawked:


>> 1.  TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment
> Yes, it worked and it works. On my 3 PCs.

Just now tested it (here) and it still fails.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[mark davidson]

>> 1.  TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and instead 
>> creates a
>> message in the last used account.  to the best of my knowledge, this has 
>> never worked
>> properly.

> Confirmed. Do you know if there is a bug report logged in BugTrack? If
> there is or if you open one, I will support it.

i went to bugtrack first but decided it was too complicated ... that's why i 
posted to the list.  please feel free to open a new bug report if one doesn't 
already exist.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[MAU]

Hello mark,

>> Confirmed. Do you know if there is a bug report logged in BugTrack? If
>> there is or if you open one, I will support it.
>
> i went to bugtrack first but decided it was too complicated ...

Yes, I'm lazy too ;-)

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[mark davidson]

hi mau,

>> i went to bugtrack first but decided it was too complicated ...

> Yes, I'm lazy too ;-)

i like to think it's being efficient with my time.  :)

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello mark,

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:43:00 -0500 GMT (04/11/2005, 04:43 +0700 GMT),
mark davidson wrote:

>>> i went to bugtrack first but decided it was too complicated ...

>> Yes, I'm lazy too ;-)

md> i like to think it's being efficient with my time.  :)

Not necessarily. Once you've entered it into bugtrack, you can always
refer to the URL and complain how long this bug has been open. ;-)

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[mark davidson]

hi mary,

> Then (by now it's automatic), I click the Follow Next button and I'm
> back at the top.

> I would prefer the old behavior, where the window stayed open, focused
> on the last read message when there are no more unread messages left.

> I would find a dialogue box a distraction.

the current behaviour would be less annoying if the cursor wasn't sticky and 
defaulted to the newest message when TB was opened.  i agree with you that a 
dialogue box would be distracting but no more so than the status quo.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Mary Bull]

Hello mark!

On Friday, November 04, 2005, 1:44 PM, you wrote:

>> Then (by now it's automatic), I click the Follow Next button and I'm
>> back at the top.

>> I would prefer the old behavior, where the window stayed open, focused
>> on the last read message when there are no more unread messages left.

>> I would find a dialogue box a distraction.

> the current behaviour would be less annoying if the cursor wasn't
> sticky and defaulted to the newest message when TB was opened. i
> agree with you that a dialogue box would be distracting but no more
> so than the status quo.

If the choice is only between how TB! behaves at present after the
last unread message is viewed and a dialogue box, of course I would
prefer the dialogue box. :)

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello mark davidson & everyone else,

on 03-Nov-2005 at 02:23 you (mark davidson) wrote:

> 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and
> instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my
> knowledge, this has never worked properly.

When I tried to reproduce the AVs with mailto accounts when TB is not
running, I ran into this problem as well. Even though NO account was set to
be the default for mailto links, it used the previous account. However,
BEFORE I checked one account for testing, it used to work (showing me the
account selection window). Its not working anymore now. Odd.

Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results,
is there already an entry for this problem?

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello ...in addition to my previous message...

on 04-Nov-2005 at 22:51 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote:

> Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results,
> is there already an entry for this problem?

That was my fault, I accidentally disabled cookies in my browser and it
seems the BT is not working without cookies. However, the issues I found
when searching for "mailto" are not about this specific problem, either.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[mark davidson]

hi alexander,

>> 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and
>> instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my
>> knowledge, this has never worked properly.

> Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results,
> is there already an entry for this problem?

i should have been more clear.  mailto: links work properly for me in mozilla 
firefox and internet explorer but not opera.  when clicking a mailto: link in 
opera, TB opens but doesn't start a message.  that said, i don't use opera much 
and it could be misconfigured in some way.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[mark davidson]

hi alexander,

>> 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and
>> instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my
>> knowledge, this has never worked properly.

> Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results,
> is there already an entry for this problem?

the mailto: problem indicated above seems to have been fixed in 3.62.12.

one down and a few more to go.  :)

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[MAU]

Hello mark,

>>> 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and
>>> instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my
>>> knowledge, this has never worked properly.
>
>> Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results,
>> is there already an entry for this problem?
>
> the mailto: problem indicated above seems to have been fixed in 3.62.12.

Not really. See my  I just
sent with Subject: 3.62.12: Wrong account used when clicking on email
addresss in mesaage body'.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Robert D.]

Recently, MAU squawked:

>> the mailto: problem indicated above seems to have been fixed in
>> 3.62.12.

> Not really. See my 

However, whereas formerly, in my system here, it did NOT work, now it
does.
Just now, I tested two ways. First, I moved to this Lists account,
reading The Bat news. Then I went to a web site I know has a mailto:
on its page. I clicked that and then put the email into its out-box. I
verified it was in the correct, other, active-mailto account not the
Lists.

Secondly, I placed the focus again in the Lists account, reading TB!
stuff. Then I closed TB! Then I went back to that web page and
activated the email link. TB! came up, I que'd the email into wherever
it went. I went and verified it was, once again, inside the outbox of
the designated mailto: account.

It works, at least, on some systems.

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Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Vili & everyone else,

on 05-Nov-2005 at 03:08 you (Vili) wrote:

>> When I tried to reproduce the AVs with mailto accounts when TB is not
>> running, I ran into this problem as well. Even though NO account was set to
>> be the default for mailto links, it used the previous account.

> Hmmm. It works now for me with 3.62.12...

Same here now. I can't remember if I first tried it and then unpacked .12
or if it was the other way around. :-)


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Re[2]: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Vili]

Hello Robert,

>>> 1.  TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment
>> Yes, it worked and it works. On my 3 PCs.
> Just now tested it (here) and it still fails.

My fault. You are right, broken now. But I am sure it worked ok a
while ago, when I sent this wish:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4898

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Re[2]: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Vili]

Hello Alexander,

> Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results,
> is there already an entry for this problem?

See this:


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Re[2]: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

[Vili]

Hello Alexander,

> When I tried to reproduce the AVs with mailto accounts when TB is not
> running, I ran into this problem as well. Even though NO account was set to
> be the default for mailto links, it used the previous account.

Hmmm. It works now for me with 3.62.12...

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