Pointers to download mails
Fellow TB users, I had posted this query to TBUDl and was recommended to post here too. The query may not be directly related to TB, however as there are experts in this may be some one could be of assistance. The problem is that I am on unable to download mails which are larger than 15k using the broad band connection. I can download the same using dial up though. The problem exists with TB, becky Outlook and multiple pop servers. Using W2k (Prof) on a PIII with 128 MB RAM. Any suggestions / pointers would be really welcome. Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought/Joke for the mail : Cannot open file d:\bat\Cookies for Bat.txt Member of The Bat! Fan Club. Composed on Sunday, December 09, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d On Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com -- __ Archives : http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pointers to download mails
Hello Raj, On 9 Dec 2001 at 18:09:27 you wrote (at least in part): R The problem is that I am on unable to download mails which are larger than 15k R using the broad band connection. I can download the same using dial up though. That's really strange ... but as: R The problem exists with TB, becky Outlook and multiple pop servers. it seems to be a general network congestion problem with your system connected to the Internet via your broadband connection. R Using W2k (Prof) on a PIII with 128 MB RAM. Some days ago somebody wrote something similar but he was using a 56k modem. IIRC he also used W2K Pro. So it seems there's some option in W2K that causes this behavior. We need to break down as exactly as possible what's happening if your mail download hangs. What exactly does happen if you try to download a mail larger than 15k? does the download star and stops suddenly? Does it never really start? As you're connected through broadband I guess the connetion between you and the cable modem is done via Ethernet cable? If so, does the light at your NIC stays flashing when download stops? does it suddenly interrupt and nothing seems to happen? What if you try to surf while downloading? Does this work or is there some general network congestion/blocking? At least you can try to get used with a packet sniffer like [1] , direct download URL [2]. You'll also need [3] or [4]. R Any suggestions / pointers would be really welcome. Hope some of my accomplishments help to find the culprit. [1] http://www.ethereal.com/ [2] http://www.ethereal.com/distribution/win32/ [3] http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/winpcap/install/bin/WinPcap.exe [4] http://netgroup-mirror.ethereal.com/winpcap/install/bin/WinPcap.exe -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/14 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Deprive a mirror of its silver and even the Czar won't see his face. -- __ Archives : http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Pointers to download mails
Peter Alexander, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, at 01:45:00 [GMT +0500] (which was 2:15 AM where I live) you wrote: Thanks for the inputs will do research and get back to you. AL Well, does you net have Firewall with or without NAT, and do you have AL admin in your net :-)? What about ping after mail hangs, how work AL FTP-downloads for files outside LAN? I use Zone Alarm for the fire wall. Have disabled ZA and checked with no luck. I can also ping to the ISP's server through out. FTP HTTP downloads work just fine. I have been down loading MP3 songs whole day. (while researching) this problem. AL Does POP (or IMAP) works well for servers inside net?! I cannot really confirm this but the ISP provides for his own e-mail box (pop) and the problem exists when I try to down load from this server also. PP it seems to be a general network congestion problem with your system PP connected to the Internet via your broadband connection. I would have agreed if the problem were with downloads in general. But what I have narrowed is that the problem surfaces under the following condidtions 1 E-Mail larger than 15 k (Approx) 2. When I use the broad band connection only. All mails to this account (used for groups like TBUDL/TBTECH) have been downloading well. PP Some days ago somebody wrote something similar but he was using a 56k PP modem. IIRC he also used W2K Pro. So it seems there's some option in PP W2K that causes this behavior. I too recall this and did a quick search but did not find the messages. Will checkout again. PP What exactly does happen if you try to download a mail larger than PP 15k? does the download star and stops suddenly? Does it never really PP start? The connection starts. In fact if there a small mail ahead of a larger mail, then the small sized mail gets downloaded, then depending on the mail 10-30% of the larger sized mail also gets downloaded. When I used outlook it gave me a time out error as follows A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Account: 'mail.kaladyinc.com', Server: 'mail.kaladyinc.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC19 PP As you're connected through broadband I guess the connetion PP between you and the cable modem is done via Ethernet cable? If so, PP does the light at your NIC stays flashing when download stops? does it PP suddenly interrupt and nothing seems to happen? Yes I am connected via ethernet. I did not check on the light of the NIC will do so now. Unfortunately as I switched on the machine in the morning the connection seems to be down and now using dial up. PP What if you try to surf while downloading? Does this work or is there some general PP network congestion/blocking? As is evident from http://www.mailmejobs.com/conc.jpg I have waited for as much as 7 hours...during this time I have continued surfing and downloading w/o any problems. Also I was able to investigate further by visiting my neighbour who also uses the same ISP (broadband) and was successfully able to download messages irrespective of size. The ISP also provides for dial up access and when I use this method the download is successful. There also does not seem to be a problem sending large sized mails. Cause I have been testing by sending out mails to various servers and then trying to down load. I use ADR as my local SMTP. PP At least you can try to get used with a packet sniffer like [1] , PP direct download URL [2]. You'll also need [3] or [4]. Will work on this in the mean time. Thanks for the efforts. ps: Another unrelated problem but could provide clues is that when I click on any URL (in an e-mail message or on a web page) the browser return 'Page unavilable' - However when I refresh page is shown properly. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Monday, December 10, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d on Windows NT -- __ Archives : http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pointers to download mails
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:12:16 +0530, Raj [R] graced us with these comments: ... R I use Zone Alarm for the fire wall. Have disabled ZA and checked R with no luck. Hmmm. Zone Alarm is in the equation eh?. The only way to really assess Zone Alarm's contribution is to uninstall it completely. Merely disabling it doesn't always help. Were you always running Zone Alarm, even before this problem arose? Have you tried rebooting? -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP2 ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- __ Archives : http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Pointers to download mails
Allie, On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, at 22:51:21 [GMT -0500] (which was 9:21 AM where I live) you wrote: ACM Hmmm. Zone Alarm is in the equation eh?. The only way to really assess ACM Zone Alarm's contribution is to uninstall it completely. Merely ACM disabling it doesn't always help. Will try this after this mail goes thru... ACM Were you always running Zone Alarm, even before this problem arose? Yeah I was using ZA even before. This problem began on friday afternoon. I used TPF earlier but that was clashing with the ISP's leased IP address. It would not renew the lease after 3 hrs set by the ISP. So had to reboot the machine after 3 hrs. That problem was resolved when I switched over to ZA over a month back. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Monday, December 10, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d on Windows NT -- __ Archives : http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Pointers to download mails
Allie, On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, at 22:51:21 [GMT -0500] (which was 9:21 AM where I live) you wrote: ACM Hmmm. Zone Alarm is in the equation eh?. The only way to really assess ACM Zone Alarm's contribution is to uninstall it completely. Merely ACM disabling it doesn't always help. I uninstalled and the problem continues :( -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Monday, December 10, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d on Windows NT -- __ Archives : http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pointers to download mails
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:12:51 +0530, Raj [R] graced us with these comments: ... ACM Hmmm. Zone Alarm is in the equation eh?. The only way to really ACM assess Zone Alarm's contribution is to uninstall it completely. ACM Merely disabling it doesn't always help. R I uninstalled and the problem continues :( Uh, oh!! :-(( Have you yet contacted your ISP about the problem? -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP2 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- __ Archives : http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Pointers to download mails
Allie, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, at 00:48:01 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:18 AM where I live) you wrote: ACM Have you yet contacted your ISP about the problem? I have had a long chat with the ISP and they say it appears to be a application clash with port 110. Any suggestions as to how to identify w/o reinstalling / reformmating the m/c -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on Monday, December 10, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d on Windows NT -- __ Archives : http://tbtech.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
