Re[2]: Is it me or ....

2002-08-03 Thread DG Raftery Sr.

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Saturday, August 03, 2002
12:31:03 PM
RE: Is it me or 
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Greetings Syafril,

On Friday, August 2, 2002, 11:56:51 AM, you wrote:

Syafril Correct.
Syafril In the past bounce message from myrealbox.com not recognize well by
Syafril Listar bounce watcher, now it work perfectly as it should.

Syafril If listar bounce watcher receive more than 15 bounce from specific
Syafril address, she will unsubscribe automatically.
Syafril The counter will reset to 0 (zero) if these conditions occurs :

Syafril 1. Any successful delivery.
Syafril 2. No list traffic in 7-days (means no bounce at all) :-)

You just answered my question. Myrealbox was down for maintenance beginning
Friday, 26 July and came back up on Monday, 29 July. They assured me no
mail would be bounced during this period but, alas, I guess they were
wrong.

Thanks.

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Re: Is it me or ....

2002-08-03 Thread Gary Lucas

On Friday, August 02, 2002, Syafril Hermansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SH In the past bounce message from myrealbox.com not recognize well by
SH Listar bounce watcher, now it work perfectly as it should.

SH If listar bounce watcher receive more than 15 bounce from specific
SH address, she will unsubscribe automatically.
SH The counter will reset to 0 (zero) if these conditions occurs :

SH 1. Any successful delivery.
SH 2. No list traffic in 7-days (means no bounce at all) :-)


Hi,   Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:34

It seems like it would be better to use a criteria like bounces on three
separate days without a reset, rather than on a strict 15 bounce count.
If a mail service was down for a couple of hours before it got corrected
(say it never happens) and during that time there were more than 15
separate messages (like often happens in a run on TBUDL)--it seems like
that would produce a lot of false unsubscribes.

Both Raftery and I appear to have been unsubscribed on TBUDL without any
knowledge that our service has been bouncing mail.

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Re: Is it me or ....

2002-08-03 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Gary Lucas [GL] wrote:

GL It seems like it would be better to use a criteria like bounces
GL on three separate days without a reset, rather than on a strict
GL 15 bounce count. If a mail service was down for a couple of hours
GL before it got corrected (say it never happens) and during that
GL time there were more than 15 separate messages (like often happens
GL in a run on TBUDL)--it seems like that would produce a lot of
GL false unsubscribes.

Three days is on the excessive side though I do see your point. I'd
more go for 100% bounces over a 24 hour period. But then this could
potentially lead to bandwidth wastage on the part of the list host
having to be receiving 100 bounced over a 24 hour period. It's
therefore really up to Syafril to decide what limits to set.

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Re: Is it me or ....

2002-08-03 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 11:50:14 -0500 Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 GL It seems like it would be better to use a criteria like bounces
 GL on three separate days without a reset, rather than on a strict
 GL 15 bounce count. If a mail service was down for a couple of hours
 GL before it got corrected (say it never happens) and during that
 GL time there were more than 15 separate messages (like often happens
 GL in a run on TBUDL)--it seems like that would produce a lot of
 GL false unsubscribes.

TBUDL having 20 bounce limit, and 3-days reset instead of 15
bounce/7-days. Day by day I will evaluate if any changes needed I will
change it.
 
 Three days is on the excessive side though I do see your point. I'd
 more go for 100% bounces over a 24 hour period. But then this could
 potentially lead to bandwidth wastage on the part of the list host
 having to be receiving 100 bounced over a 24 hour period. It's
 therefore really up to Syafril to decide what limits to set.

Yeah, bandwidth waste is my concern, any single bounce will reroute to
me, Marck and Flash.

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