spam filtering

2004-10-11 Thread K. Shantanu
Hi,
I am trying the latest version of The Bat! profesional. I have a question
on spam mails. There are a quite a few spam mails I get daily. If I mark
them as Junk, will that ensure I don't get them in future? If possible,
I would like The Bat! to delete them without even downloading them.
Is it possible and if yes how do I go about it?

Thanks.
Shantanu

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Re: spam filtering

2004-10-11 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello K.!

On Monday, October 11, 2004 at 5:42:32 PM you wrote:

 I am trying the latest version of The Bat! profesional. I have a question
 on spam mails. There are a quite a few spam mails I get daily. If I mark
 them as Junk, will that ensure I don't get them in future? If possible,
 I would like The Bat! to delete them without even downloading them.
 Is it possible and if yes how do I go about it?

To get Mark as Junk to work you need to install an anti-spam plug-in
like Achim Winkler's BayesFilter (http://www.lkcc.org:8500/index.php).
After a short time of training it will recognize most spam messages
you receive. And that's the operative: *messages you receive*!

TB will still download the messages from the server but you won't
see (most of) them. I think there's currently no solution to
automatically delete spam on the server without downloading. You may
use the Message Dispatcher to look at the headers on the server and
then delete them manually. Or you can set up elaborate filters for
selective downloading.

From my experience it takes more time if you invoke the Dispatcher or
Selective Downloading than to download all mail and let the plug-in do
the dirty work.




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Re: spam filtering

2004-10-11 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, K..

You wrote 12.10.2004 @ 0:42 

KS Hi,
KS I am trying the latest version of The Bat! profesional. I have a question
KS on spam mails. There are a quite a few spam mails I get daily. If I mark
KS them as Junk, will that ensure I don't get them in future? If possible,
KS I would like The Bat! to delete them without even downloading them.
KS Is it possible and if yes how do I go about it?

What do you mean by not get THEM in future? Did you receive one and same spams
every time? If so, it is simpler to just create selective download rule. For
few spam mails daily it may be enough.

If you set up bayesit! filter (note, that there are two filters with a big
looking like names: bayes filter and bayesit. I mean bayesit), it may create the
set of regular expressions based on the difference in headers between your junk
and non-junk letters - this set will be auto-updatable and will allow you to
REALLY stop download junk and kill them on the server.

However, the other side is that when you using selective download filters you
will, actually receive about +20-+50% of traffic - since The Bat! will receive
only headers first, filter the letters, and finally receive the filtered mails
(again, with the headers).

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..with Kaspersky Antivirus Plugin (ver 3.5 Gold)  antispam filter BayesIt! 0.7.4

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Re[2]: spam filtering

2004-10-11 Thread Shantanu
Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 12:01:12 AM, you wrote:

 What do you mean by not get THEM in future? Did you receive one and same spams
 every time? If so, it is simpler to just create selective download rule. For
 few spam mails daily it may be enough.

Ok I guess I cannot delete mails directly from server w/o downloading
them.
Well, on one account I get only spam and maybe real ham in 1000. I
selected all mails and marked them as junk (around 200 of them) in
last few hours.  I am using the bayesfilter 1.5.6

Then I created another account (this) and downloaded mails. I found
out that all the legal mails even ones from the The Bat! list today
were going into Junk mail folder. What is the reason of this?
What do I do now for it?

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Re[3]: spam filtering

2004-10-11 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, Shantanu.

You wrote 12.10.2004 @ 4:03  in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  using mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional

S Then I created another account (this) and downloaded mails. I found
S out that all the legal mails even ones from the The Bat! list today
S were going into Junk mail folder. What is the reason of this?
S What do I do now for it?

You definitely must not only mark your junk as junk, but also mark your good
mail as non-junk. Bayesian method works not on the letters, but on the
difference between two sets of them.


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password protected account deletion

2004-10-11 Thread K. Shantanu
Hi,
I have an old account on The Bat! whose password I have forgotten. I do
not need that acount, nor its mails anymore. How can I delete that account?
Whenever I try to delete that account The Bat! asks me for password.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Shantanu
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Re: spam filtering

2004-10-11 Thread K. Shantanu
* Alexey N. Vinogradov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041011 21:22]:
 You definitely must not only mark your junk as junk, but also mark your good
 mail as non-junk. Bayesian method works not on the letters, but on the
 difference between two sets of them.

Thanks for the mail. DO you mean that even my legitimate mails are caught
as spam because I have not taught bayes more ham against spam. (the ratio
of my ham:spam training is 2:100)

Shantanu

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