subject:"has text in message"

Re: has text in message

2002-04-27 Thread Miguel A. Urech


Hi Marck,

> I guess that, what we're saying here is that it would be an idea to
> have two separate forwarding templates; MIME and non-MIME.

Basically yes. Although, in a way, MIME is already a "template" which
includes the whole message (RFC-822 headers also) as an attachment.

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


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Hi Miguel,

@26 April 2002, 22:05:13 +0200 (21:05 UK time) Miguel A. Urech wrote
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> No, I wasn't suggesting building intelligence into %TEXT macro but
> into TB itself. That is, if I have "MIME standard" selected, then
> normal forward should ignore the template which would be used if
> Alternate Fwd is used. And the other way around.

I guess that, what we're saying here is that it would be an idea to
have two separate forwarding templates; MIME and non-MIME. I still
think there's mileage in my suggestion for a template designed around
macro based intelligence .

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Lars Geiger


Hi Marck,
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 20:53:03 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

MDP> They spoil all of my fun :-(((. He'd been unsubscribed before I got
MDP> there :-((.

Yes, things like that can really ruin one's day, can't they? ;-)

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Miguel A. Urech


Hi Marck,

> It is reasonable to set up a template with a %IF that looks at "Fwd:"
> in the subject and %ATTACHMENTS and makes up its mind from there. It
> is not reasonable to expect that intelligence to be built into the
> %TEXT macro (IMHO).

No, I wasn't suggesting building intelligence into %TEXT macro but
into TB itself. That is, if I have "MIME standard" selected, then
normal forward should ignore the template which would be used if
Alternate Fwd is used. And the other way around.

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Miguel A. Urech


Hi Mark,

> Miles - this is disgraceful behaviour. I'm leaving you subscribed to
> this list but not allowed to post until you learn some manners!

Miles needs to learn some manners and learn to look and read. He could
have seen how to un-subscribe if he had just looked two lines above
the one he was writing. Look:

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> ===8<===End of original message text===
> 
> Stop sending me...

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


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@26 April 2002, 20:49:11 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone wrote in
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> Let me say this as publicly as you did:

> Miles - this is disgraceful behaviour. I'm leaving you subscribed to
> this list but not allowed to post until you learn some manners!

They spoil all of my fun :-(((. He'd been unsubscribed before I got
there :-((.

Still, I wouldn't have done that really - I was just teasing. I'd have
kicked him off and banned the address in reality.

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


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Hi Miles,

@26 April 2002, 13:38:16 -0700 (21:38 UK time) Miles Alexander wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> This is a forwarded message

Let me say this as publicly as you did:

Miles - this is disgraceful behaviour. I'm leaving you subscribed to
this list but not allowed to post until you learn some manners!

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


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Hi Miguel,

@26 April 2002, 18:20:28 +0200 (17:20 UK time) Miguel A. Urech wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Wouldn't it be more "reasonable" to include one or the other, but
> not both?

It is reasonable to set up a template with a %IF that looks at "Fwd:"
in the subject and %ATTACHMENTS and makes up its mind from there. It
is not reasonable to expect that intelligence to be built into the
%TEXT macro (IMHO).

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Re: Fwd: Re[2]: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Lars Geiger


Hi Miles,
On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 13:38:16 [GMT -0700], you wrote:

MA> [Offensive language which expressed the wish to be unsubscribed.]

No need to be rude.

I think that

> Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

is what you are looking for. But I'm sure that one of the moderators
took appropriate action right after he received your message. :-)

I just don't understand why you subscribed in the first place, but that
doesn't matter anyway, I guess.

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Fwd: Re[2]: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Miles Alexander


This is a forwarded message
From:  <>
To: Marck D Pearlstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, April 26, 2002, 1:33:38 AM
Subject: has text in message

===8<==Original message text===
Hi Marck,

Thanks for the reply. I have looked through the Account settings and
general application preferences, but I could not find a "Mime Forwarding"
option. Could you please point me in the right direction?

Best regards,

Stefan


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Friday, April 26, 2002, 2:55:35 AM, you wrote:

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MDP> Hi Stefan,

MDP> @26 April 2002, 22:22:01 -0500 (04:22 UK time) Stefan Zauchenberger
MDP> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> We are using MIMEDefang to process email prior client delivery, and
>> the product works very well. There seems to be an issue with TB,
>> however, as the text body section of any offending message is
>> getting lost. Recipients get the warning part, but the actual body
>> is never attached. See mail example below. The original message
>> contained several lines of text that are now gone.

>> The same email did not have this problem with Outlook or Outlook
>> Express.

>> Is there some setting in TB that fix this?

MDP> It sounds / looks to me like you have TB set up for MIME forwarding.
MDP> Turn that off. If that's not the answer, MIME forward a complete
MDP> message to this list (make it a small one) and we can take a closer
MDP> look at the source.

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Stop sending me this shit if you would please!

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Fwd: Re[2]: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Miles Alexander


This is a forwarded message
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To: Marck D Pearlstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, April 26, 2002, 1:33:38 AM
Subject: has text in message

===8<==Original message text===
Hi Marck,

Thanks for the reply. I have looked through the Account settings and
general application preferences, but I could not find a "Mime Forwarding"
option. Could you please point me in the right direction?

Best regards,

Stefan


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Friday, April 26, 2002, 2:55:35 AM, you wrote:

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MDP> Hi Stefan,

MDP> @26 April 2002, 22:22:01 -0500 (04:22 UK time) Stefan Zauchenberger
MDP> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> We are using MIMEDefang to process email prior client delivery, and
>> the product works very well. There seems to be an issue with TB,
>> however, as the text body section of any offending message is
>> getting lost. Recipients get the warning part, but the actual body
>> is never attached. See mail example below. The original message
>> contained several lines of text that are now gone.

>> The same email did not have this problem with Outlook or Outlook
>> Express.

>> Is there some setting in TB that fix this?

MDP> It sounds / looks to me like you have TB set up for MIME forwarding.
MDP> Turn that off. If that's not the answer, MIME forward a complete
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MDP> look at the source.

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Stop sending me this shit if you would please!

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Miguel A. Urech


> Wouldn't it be more "reasonable" to include one or the other, but not
> both?

Forgot to ask the usual "am I missing something somewhere?"

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Miguel A. Urech


Hi Marck,

> Account Properties | Templates | Forward | Use MIME standard...
>
> To forward a one-off message as a MIME forward use "Alternate
> forward". (or vice versa if "MIME standard" is on by default).

There is an issue with this that I saw a few weeks ago, that I forgot
to ask about, and I don't know if it could be considered some "sort of
bug".

If I don't select "MIME standard" and use a template which includes
%Text, when I use Alternate forward I get both the MIME attachment and
the text because of %Text. Now, if I select "MIME standard", to avoid
the repetition of the message text, I would actually leave my FWD
template blank. But then, if I use Alternate forward, I get nothing as
the template is blank.

Wouldn't it be more "reasonable" to include one or the other, but not
both?

Thanks,

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


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Hi Stefan,

@26 April 2002, 08:33:38 -0500 (14:33 UK time) Stefan Zauchenberger
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> Thanks for the reply. I have looked through the Account settings and
> general application preferences, but I could not find a "Mime
> Forwarding" option. Could you please point me in the right
> direction?

Account Properties | Templates | Forward | Use MIME standard...

To forward a one-off message as a MIME forward use "Alternate
forward". (or vice versa if "MIME standard" is on by default).

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Re[2]: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Stefan Zauchenberger


Hi Marck,

Thanks for the reply. I have looked through the Account settings and
general application preferences, but I could not find a "Mime Forwarding"
option. Could you please point me in the right direction?

Best regards,

Stefan


---
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Friday, April 26, 2002, 2:55:35 AM, you wrote:

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MDP> Hi Stefan,

MDP> @26 April 2002, 22:22:01 -0500 (04:22 UK time) Stefan Zauchenberger
MDP> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> We are using MIMEDefang to process email prior client delivery, and
>> the product works very well. There seems to be an issue with TB,
>> however, as the text body section of any offending message is
>> getting lost. Recipients get the warning part, but the actual body
>> is never attached. See mail example below. The original message
>> contained several lines of text that are now gone.

>> The same email did not have this problem with Outlook or Outlook
>> Express.

>> Is there some setting in TB that fix this?

MDP> It sounds / looks to me like you have TB set up for MIME forwarding.
MDP> Turn that off. If that's not the answer, MIME forward a complete
MDP> message to this list (make it a small one) and we can take a closer
MDP> look at the source.

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Re: has text in message

2002-04-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone


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Hi Stefan,

@26 April 2002, 22:22:01 -0500 (04:22 UK time) Stefan Zauchenberger
wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> We are using MIMEDefang to process email prior client delivery, and
> the product works very well. There seems to be an issue with TB,
> however, as the text body section of any offending message is
> getting lost. Recipients get the warning part, but the actual body
> is never attached. See mail example below. The original message
> contained several lines of text that are now gone.

> The same email did not have this problem with Outlook or Outlook
> Express.

> Is there some setting in TB that fix this?

It sounds / looks to me like you have TB set up for MIME forwarding.
Turn that off. If that's not the answer, MIME forward a complete
message to this list (make it a small one) and we can take a closer
look at the source.

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Fwd: has text in message

2002-04-25 Thread Stefan Zauchenberger


Hello,

We are using MIMEDefang to process email prior client delivery, and the
product works very well. There seems to be an issue with TB, however, as the
text body section of any offending message is getting lost. Recipients
get the warning part, but the actual body is never attached. See mail
example below. The original message contained several lines of text that
are now gone.

The same email did not have this problem with Outlook or Outlook Express.

Is there some setting in TB that fix this?

Regards,

Stefan

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 25, 2002, 8:54:21 AM
Subject: has text in message

===8<==Original message text===
WARNING: This e-mail has been altered by MIMEDefang.  Following this
paragraph are indications of the actual changes made.  For more
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