Re: The Bat! - bug report
Paula Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [] With focus on a message in the messages list of the main window, press "f", which brings up the Quick Search window. Close the QS window by clicking on the "X" in corner of window. Press "Ctrl-Enter". A message window for replying does not open, but a reply is generated and placed in the OutBox. Can't duplicate the problem here Paula. -- Ali Martin | Using The Bat! v1.38e mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ We are upping our standards... so up yours. ] ___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Two missing functions
Hello, Saturday, December 11, 1999, You wrote: On Friday, December 10, 1999, Andreas Stamm wrote: I'm missing two functions in The Bat! 1) I often send files via email and I would like that The Bat! will automatically encrypt the files with PGP. This has been requested by others also. This feature (S-MIME) will be in version 2.xx -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.38e under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build B Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
Hi Paula, Saturday, December 11, 1999, 3:03:50 AM, you wrote: PF Judging by the response to VA Linux going public, RIT Labs should drop PF everything to develop a Linux version (new name - The Penguin!). Then, a PF few of us long-time, loyal users find a way to get it incorporated in PF the USA, roll out an IPO, and all get rich overnight. No need to have PF any prospects for making a profit. Tell me about it, I missed the deadline for VA share applications by one day, the e-mail with the forms etc. arrived late:-( RIT should move in fast before someone beats them to it, there are already several projects in progress to produce an OE5 type app for Linux, hopefully they won't be too much like OE5:-) The Penguin! hmmm not sure about that, but at least there are plenty of ready made logos I suppose. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: TBUDL Rescan and message printing macros
Hi Michael Heydekamp, On Samstag, 11. Dezember 1999 at 15:26:50 you wrote: MH 2. When printing messages, how can I include kludges like CC, BCC, MH and such stuff in the template? Tried %CC/%BCC and %OCC/%OBCC, MH doesn't work. Use %CCLIST and %BCCLIST. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: How to setup PGP
Saturday, December 11, 1999, 07:14, Daniel Leung wrote: I have already setup the PGP v5.5 in my system but the thebat! v1.6 still can not find the PGP. Tool-PGP-choose version How can I solve the problem? Hello Daniel, did you check the path of your PGP files (Tools | PGP | Preferences | Files)? -- Best regards, Jürgen -- Using The Bat! 1.38 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: SOT Linux port?
Dear Mark, On Saturday, December 11, 1999, you wrote: PF Judging by the response to VA Linux going public, RIT Labs should drop PF everything to develop a Linux version (new name - The Penguin!). Then, a PF few of us long-time, loyal users find a way to get it incorporated in PF the USA, roll out an IPO, and all get rich overnight. No need to have PF any prospects for making a profit. MA Tell me about it, I missed the deadline for VA share applications by MA one day, the e-mail with the forms etc. arrived late:-( MA RIT should move in fast before someone beats them to it, there are MA already several projects in progress to produce an OE5 type app for MA Linux, hopefully they won't be too much like OE5:-) MA The Penguin! hmmm not sure about that, but at least there are plenty MA of ready made logos I suppose. Well, but Delphi compiler for Linux is not released yet. -- With respect, Stan Polozov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Development managerhttp://www.ritlabs.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: bug in 1.38 (maybe even earlier)
hallo Januk! on Saturday, December 11, 1999, 8:19:28 PM, you wrote: JA Hello Patrick, JA How about shift-alt-F2...that sends from all accounts. Unfortunately JA it doesn't check mail. sure, but that wasn't the question (read some msgs before)... thanks, -- PAT vcard/LDAP/PGP public key: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55 BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: Can't duplicate the problem here Paula. Try this. From the messages list in the main window, highlight a message, press and hold the CTRL key, then press and _hold_ the ENTER key. I just managed to generate 7 replies to your messages that showed up in the Outbox before a reply window appeared. The interface flashes some and the icons disappear from the tool bars while this is going on. I think I've got the latest version of 1.38 now, too. I don't believe it happened before this version. I'm interested in whether or not anyone can get TB to behave this way, as I use an old keyboard and am wondering if the problem could be related to that. I'm also on the old Win95a. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Deleting threads with Trash button
Hello All, Is there a key combo that will delete threads with the Trash button. CTRL-SHIFT-click TRASH button does not work. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: bug in 1.38 (maybe even earlier)
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Patrick Erler wrote: but i just realized that when i press shift-f2 all other accounts do not send but receive mail... That's odd. I thought maybe having Combined Delivery activated might have something to do with it, but enabling the option didn't affect that SHIFT-F2 sends from the active account. I've encountered something else I don't understand in my own setup. ALT-F2 should check all accounts for mail, but when I try either the key combo or menu item, it checks only one of my accounts and it doesn't matter if that account is the active account or not. I only have 2 accounts, so I don't know if the behavior would differ would more accounts. I never use the Check All option, so I don't know if this is something new or not, or I don't understand what Check All should do. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Ctrl+P for Printing, please!
Gotcha. Thanks. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Two missing functions
Hello Denis, Friday, December 10, 1999, 7:14:20 PM, Denis V. Petelin wrote: AS PGP Key: Zusendung auf Anfrage oder auf meiner Homepage PGP Key: Sending on request or get it from my Homepage -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
About v2.0
An easy to answer question :) What would be the price of 2.0, when it come out, for the registered users of v1.xx ? -- /\/\ || George M. Menegakis - System Administrator || || Centre of Communications and Networking|| || Iraklion Campus - University Of Crete || || mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], icq: 4557532 || || phone: +30 81 393 305, fax:+30 81 39 3318 || \/\/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hello Januk, I should mention, I'm also using 1.38e on Windows 98 with a new keyboard. I can't tell you about the bug in previous versions of the Bat since I normally just use the tool bar buttons to reply. Saturday, December 11, 1999, 12:38:20 PM, you wrote: Hello Paula, Well, I accidentally just recreated the same bug. Please see the empty message that should be showing up. :) I guess I should have checked that I was offline BEFORE trying it... Saturday, December 11, 1999, 11:45:25 AM, you wrote: On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: Can't duplicate the problem here Paula. Try this. From the messages list in the main window, highlight a message, press and hold the CTRL key, then press and _hold_ the ENTER key. I just managed to generate 7 replies to your messages that showed up in the Outbox before a reply window appeared. The interface flashes some and the icons disappear from the tool bars while this is going on. I think I've got the latest version of 1.38 now, too. I don't believe it happened before this version. I'm interested in whether or not anyone can get TB to behave this way, as I use an old keyboard and am wondering if the problem could be related to that. I'm also on the old Win95a. -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Well, I accidentally just recreated the same bug. Please see the empty message that should be showing up. :) I guessed as much. :) -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Deleting threads with Trash button
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Well I don't know about the Trash button, but if you have any message in a thread selected, you can delete the thread using ctrl-shift-delete. Yes, I know. I'm looking for a mouse equivalent, as I tend to go through email with one hand on the keyboard and the other on the mouse. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: SOT Linux port?
Hello Stanislav all other TBUDL members, Stanislav, Paula and Mark have just written: PF RIT Labs should drop everything to develop a Linux version MA RIT should move in fast before someone beats them to it, and SP Well, but Delphi compiler for Linux is not released yet. This is not an area of competence for me, but that's why I'm asking: 1).- Aside from the received demand, what would be the advantage to using TB (and other applications) under Linux as distinct from under say Windows 2000. As Linux becomes more of a finished product, the costs associated with it seem to be rising commensurately. And while windows was garbage from the start (I began with OS/2, myself), by throwing enough money at it I'm told that NT at least has improved a lot. Will Linux get beyond being a server OS and compete with Windoze at the user level? (The Linux camp itself is split) and, 2).- If Languages like MetaWare High C/C++/ EC++ PwrPC Toolset Linux and various versions of Fortran, as well as Cross Assemblers/Compilers like METROWERKS CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux GNU Edition and Graphics Motif for Linux and all available, will the Delphi compiler make that much of a difference? Or is the statement founded in TB's have been programmed in Delphi? As mentioned, my understanding of the issue is sketchy at best, and I hoping you'll all (collectively) fill in the picture a bit. Incidentally, while performance seems to be better with v 1.38e than it was w/ 1.36, it's still buggier - and it's not just one thing. It's demands on memory or greater and I need to close other programs frequently, and sometimes it tries to do the same thing twice at once, (i.e send the same message) then runs into itself and falls down (closes). Also, when that just happened, on opening TB again - lo and behold: NO messages in my TBUDL folder. *However*, little did the bugger know (or maybe it did) that I had stashed in the computer I run between my eyes, the idea to press shift-cntrl-alt right away (there you have it - this list is indispensable). In any case, I'm sure these issues are being worked on. (Nothing is gratuitous and improvements must be implemented, tested and modified etc. The main thing is that work is being done, continuously; and what's already in place helps me get mine done, as is). One more thing, on a totally different track. Are there any good directories on the internet that provide data regarding the people behind the email address? Meaning, can you obtain more detailed data regarding the person using the email address, when that's all you have? Thanks in advance for the answers. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Poco Mail
Hello All, I was purusing http://winfiles.cnet.com/apps/98/mail-clients.html and noticed this Poco Mail. Has anyone here tried this mailer. I'm wondering how it compares to TB. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Poco Mail
Hi there! On 11 Dec 99, at 16:30, Paula Ford wrote about "Poco Mail": I was purusing http://winfiles.cnet.com/apps/98/mail-clients.html and noticed this Poco Mail. Has anyone here tried this mailer. I'm wondering how it compares to TB. *I* liked it, personally, but almost the first thing I noticed about it was that it wouldn't deal with Russian at all. Trashed it in a couple of hours:-) As for the other features... Well, the functionality is quite limited (in the same areas, where TB's functionality is limited, too, like complex MIME structures), but it was quite stable here and I noticed no serious bugs (OTOH when I first launched TB, my own "bugs list" occupied about an A4 page:-)). -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: There's always one more bug. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
Hi there! On 11 Dec 99, at 15:15, Douglas Hinds wrote about "Re[3]: SOT Linux port?": This is not an area of competence for me, but that's why I'm asking: 1).- Aside from the received demand, what would be the advantage to using TB (and other applications) under Linux as distinct from under say Windows 2000. As Linux becomes more of a finished product, the costs associated with it seem to be rising commensurately. Which costs? You mean, to buy support from Red Hat etc.? In all other spheres, there always exists a free application AFAIK. And while windows was garbage from the start (I began with OS/2, myself) So did I (after DOS, of course...) , by throwing enough money at it I'm told that NT at least has improved a lot. Well, there will be no more NT... It will be called win'2000, and I'll bet they'll make it as buggy as each and every win':-) Will Linux get beyond being a server OS and compete with Windoze at the user level? (The Linux camp itself is split) *I* personally don't think so, unless Corel Linux proves to be working OS... They've released it finally a couple of days ago. But they charge for it... 2).- If Languages like MetaWare High C/C++/ EC++ PwrPC Toolset Linux and various versions of Fortran, as well as Cross Assemblers/Compilers like METROWERKS CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux GNU Edition and Graphics Motif for Linux and all available, will the Delphi compiler make that much of a difference? Or is the statement founded in TB's have been programmed in Delphi? It's a matter of ammount of work needed to port TB to Linux... -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: The value of a program is inversely proportional to the weight of its output. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Paula Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: Can't duplicate the problem here Paula. Try this. From the messages list in the main window, highlight a message, press and hold the CTRL key, then press and _hold_ the ENTER key. I just managed to generate 7 replies to your messages that showed up in the Outbox before a reply window appeared. The interface flashes some and the icons disappear from the tool bars while this is going on. I think I've got the latest version of 1.38 now, too. I don't believe it happened before this version. I'm interested in whether or not anyone can get TB to behave this way, as I use an old keyboard and am wondering if the problem could be related to that. I'm also on the old Win95a. -- Ali Martin | Using The Bat! v1.38e mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ Reformat Hard Drive! Are you SURE (Y/Y)? ] ___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report
On 11 December 1999 at 19:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: PF On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: Can't duplicate the problem here Paula. PF Try this. From the messages list in the main window, highlight a PF message, press and hold the CTRL key, then press and _hold_ the PF ENTER key. I just managed to generate 7 replies to your messages PF that showed up in the Outbox before a reply window appeared. Confirmed! Cheers, Marck -- Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY - Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: TBUDL Rescan and message printing macros
Hi Michael Heydekamp, On Samstag, 11. Dezember 1999 at 18:36:56 you wrote: MH Dear Oliver, MH on Saturday, December 11, 1999, 17:33, you wrote: MH 2. When printing messages, how can I include kludges like CC, BCC, MH and such stuff in the template? Tried %CC/%BCC and %OCC/%OBCC, MH doesn't work. OS Use %CCLIST and %BCCLIST. MH Works wonderful, thanks. Where did you get that information from, I MH can't locate it anywhere (especially not in the macro list I get when I MH click on "Macros")? It was in the readme for some past version (don't remember exactly) when that feature was introduced ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hello Paula, Your message from Saturday, December 11, 1999, 20:45: The Bat! - bug report PF On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: Can't duplicate the problem here Paula. PF Try this. From the messages list in the main window, highlight a PF message, press and hold the CTRL key, then press and _hold_ the ENTER PF key. I just managed to generate 7 replies to your messages that showed PF up in the Outbox before a reply window appeared. The interface flashes PF some and the icons disappear from the tool bars while this is going on. PF I think I've got the latest version of 1.38 now, too. I don't believe it PF happened before this version. I'm interested in whether or not anyone PF can get TB to behave this way, as I use an old keyboard and am wondering PF if the problem could be related to that. I'm also on the old Win95a. -- Best wishes, Bernhardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.38e -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Just an interesting problem:-) and a pair of wishlist items.
Hello all, I've played a bit with the regular expressions in TB, and... well, if someone is interested, here's just an interesting task: Assume you want to get rid of those funny "XYZ" quotation marks (I really dislike these:-)). Well, if you don't want to get rid of these, it doesn't really matter:-). At first I thought it would be quite a simple task to do so using %REGEXPTEXT and %REGEXPQUOTES macros, but... Well, first things first: let's consider the simpliest possible case, the message looking like: some text... some text... XYZ some text... XYZ some text... XYZ some text... So here we are, the task would be to construct the Reply Template that would automatically get rid of "ZYZ" things, replacing them with just "" or whatever. In Perl, this task is not a task at all, for example, assuming that I have the message text in the variable $kisa, I would write something like: @words=$kisa =~/(?-sm).*\n/g; print "@words\n"; or maybe I would have made the output operator look somewhat different; anyhow, it doesn't matter:-) What matters here is of course the first line which with the help of regular expressions AND the /g modifier (which forces Perl to match globally) does the whole dirty work... Naturally, this script might be generalized for the general case when one deals with the quotation marks of the form: "XYZVTN" etc., it's not a problem to do so (maybe, couple of minutes at most)... So at first I thought it would be just as simple as that to implement somewhat similar in terms of TB regular expressions, but... To begin with, TB doesn't allow one to match globally:-(( So, has anybody some idea how to do the trick without global search? If there exists no such possibility, here's a wishlist item #1: 1. Add the Global match modifier, please! Note that the proposed functionality might prove to be quite useful for a wide range of tasks. I could probably expand this thought further and prove the point, but I'm leaving it up to you:-) Now let's go further in our discussion of regular expressions and what one might do with them:-)... Suppose I do something with, say, %HEADERS string (i.e., manipulate it using regular expressions). The most obvious task would be correcting that odd TB's mistake when it puts the *localized* message creation date as the result of %ODATE macro. It's of course quite simple to do the trick, but then one would need to update each and every template correspondingly. This would be greatly simplified if one could *define* _new_ macros this way: %MYODATE="(the sequence of templates defining the new one)" Apparently, currently one hasn't such functionality available. So the wishlist item #2 is: 2. Implement the possibility to define new templates based on the existing ones, please! Obviously, these user-defined templates need to be system- wide and there needs to be some place where their definitions are to be stored (and edited by the user), for example, this could be a new page in Account Preferences or any other:-) ** Okay, this message proved to be rather long one, but anyhow, what do you think? -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: If the probability of success is not almost one, then it is damned near zero. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
Saturday, December 11, 1999, 12:54:50 PM, Paula wrote: But, are any of these Linux users willing to pay for an application? There are three types of Linux users. Which group are you referring to? Group 1: Die hard free (speech) and free (beer) software advocates. Most likely not. They see supporting anything commercial in the slightest as the work of Satan himself. Group 2: Those that prefer Open Source software but will also pay for commercial offerings if it fits their needs? Chances are, yes. I mean, I'm all for Open Source software, I think it actually makes a lot of fiscal sense. However, if there is a niche that Open Source doesn't fit that commercial does, I have no problems paying for software. My list includes: Games (Windows is on my main machine for games) Quicken98 (Soon to be Quicken2000 with PocketQuicken on the Palm) The Bat! Opera Of course, my list of open source or freeware applications is much larger. That is because the quality on the free side is there and I am more than willing to use it since it keeps me legal. Group 3: Those who buy Red Hat or Corel Linux, then buy other applications, then buy support, then buy... IE, the typical Windows user who has been brainwashed into thinking everything worthwhile on a computer has to be paid for. I think that speaks for itself. Group 1 and Group 2 are about an equal size and there is potential there for profit. Especially when you consider the fact that there is no decent email client on Unix at present. I won't say they are powerful, since they kick the crap out of TB! in that department. However, TB! (and PMMail) pack a lot of power into the interface, which is something the unix programmers have, thus far, ignored. Group 3... Well, Group 3 is the one powering the Red Hat IPO and the VALinux IPO. Group 3, if Linux really takes hold, is the one that will grow quite large. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Natural Email System?
Hi there! On 11 Dec 99, at 18:20, Paula Ford wrote about "The Natural Email System?": I am curious as to how folks interpret TB's marketing slogan, "The Natural Email System". How would you sum it up in a sentence. Also, for those of you who speak Russian, do you think the slogan is translated accurately in the sense of the meaning of it? It doesn't sound good in Russian, too, but at least I manage to see the logic;-) That slogan stands for something that I would have probably expressed this way: "A system that works in the most elegant (natural, simple) way". Kinda "Makes complicated tasks simple so that you hardly notice it":-)) Now it's up to _you_ to say, how all that should have sounded in proper English:-)) I'm interested, too:-) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: Well, I ended up spamming the list by trying what you asked. hehehehehehehehehehehehe You aren't the only one. Particularly a problem if TB is set for immediate delivery. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: PF Try this. From the messages list in the main window, highlight a PF message, press and hold the CTRL key, then press and _hold_ the PF ENTER key. Confirmed! Shouldn't TB trap the keys or something, so that doesn't happen? -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Deleting threads with Trash button
Off list topic, so private to you: Last week, I scurried out to buy one of the first MS Intellimouse Explorer Mouses in the area. It's the first time I've had a FIVE button mouse (it's also the first time I've had a laser-driven optical mouse, but that's an entirely different nirvanic issue). In addition to the normal left/right/scrollwheel buttons, two additional buttons are located on the left of the mouse. Long list of assignable finctions to all (FIVE!!!). I have assigned DEL to one of them. What a breeze. Hardly touch the keyboard any longer. Original Message Subject: Deleting threads with Trash button Original Message Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 6:39:12 PM UST Original Message Text: Paula On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Ok, I see, and so you're actually looking for something faster than right-clicking, selecting thread, then selecting delete? Paula Yes. :) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Poco Mail
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: *I* liked it, personally, but ... You're requirements are a bit more than the average user's. :) It looks to me like it might be a significant competitor to TB in the English-speaking world, although the interface is so stylized that many people might hate it on sight. Maybe I'll download it and check it out. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: SOT Linux port?
Saturday, December 11, 1999 Hello Paula, Saturday, Saturday, December 11, 1999, you wrote: Paula Judging by the response to VA Linux going public, RIT Labs should drop Paula everything to develop a Linux version (new name - The Penguin!). Then, a Paula few of us long-time, loyal users find a way to get it incorporated in Paula the USA, roll out an IPO, and all get rich overnight. No need to have Paula any prospects for making a profit. You might be surprised as considering the clammering on the various beta Linux groups about a decent email program, a good one IS sellable probably not if its sold from Russia out though Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e SPECIALISTS in datarecovery/virus removal/hard disk recovery / Computer repairs / sales / Maintenance contracts / System backups mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] website : Under construction phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Compressing/Purging folder window
Saturday, December 11, 1999 Hello Thomas, Saturday, Saturday, December 11, 1999, you wrote: Thomas Hallo Christopher, Thomas On Saturday, December 11, 1999, 6:30:34 AM (GMT+0800), Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: I agree with you, it shouldn't stay always-on-top. Furthermore, the "cleaning up" (purging and compressing folders) takes ages (sometimes 10-15 minutes). Does that have to be so slow? CJT Agree, and have to add one thing: could it have "cancel" button? I CJT have cleaning up configured to run on exit, but sometimes I just want CJT to quickly restart TB... Thomas Yes, I'm missing the Cancel button as well. I switch a lot between Thomas applications, and when I want to close one or the other, I sometimes Thomas close the wrong one - out of unimitable stupidity, sure, but it does Thomas happen. If that happens with, say, Excel, it's no big deal, but TB Thomas will "boot down" for a quarter of a century before I can restart it. Thomas :-( As far as I am concerned any menu SHOULD have a cancel button. Just in case one wants to stop a process the program should provide a way to do that (without pressing the powerswitch on the modem!!) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e SPECIALISTS in datarecovery/virus removal/hard disk recovery / Computer repairs / sales / Maintenance contracts / System backups mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] website : Under construction phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Just an interesting problem:-) and a pair of wishlist items.
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: snip 1. Add the Global match modifier, please! Sounds sensible to me, but then I don't really care. :) snip 2. Implement the possibility to define new templates based on the existing ones, please! Obviously, these user-defined templates need to be system- wide and there needs to be some place where their definitions are to be stored (and edited by the user), for example, this could be a new page in Account Preferences or any other:-) I don't think I understand this one. You want to be able to modify all or a selected group of templates at once? If so, we've discussed that quite a bit in the past, but you seem to be saying something else. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, tracer wrote: You might be surprised as considering the clammering on the various beta Linux groups about a decent email program, a good one IS sellable probably not if its sold from Russia out though Why not, tracer? -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Request: The Bat for Linux!
I would really like to see The Bat ported to Linux. Please reply here if you agree, then I will forward the thread to Ritlabs... if there are enough of us willing to pay for a Linux version then perhaps they will consider looking in to the idea. -- Deryk Lister ICQ 25869912 http://www.cloudk.clara.co.uk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: This is not an area of competence for me, but that's why I'm asking: 1).- Aside from the received demand, what would be the advantage to using TB (and other applications) under Linux as distinct from under say Windows 2000. According to the Penguinista, it is more stable, faster, etc. Afterall, I don't think that anyone's ever disputed that UNIX has always been and remains the better OS. As Linux becomes more of a finished product, the costs associated with it seem to be rising commensurately. Which costs? You mean, to buy support from Red Hat etc.? In all other spheres, there always exists a free application AFAIK. I assume, Douglas, means for a company-supported or more user-friendly version. And while windows was garbage from the start (I began with OS/2, myself), by throwing enough money at it I'm told that NT at least has improved a lot. Well, there will be no more NT... It will be called win'2000, and I'll bet they'll make it as buggy as each and every win':-) NT5 is getting pretty good marks from 'independent' sources that I know. Will Linux get beyond being a server OS and compete with Windoze at the user level? (The Linux camp itself is split) *I* personally don't think so, unless Corel Linux proves to be working OS... They've released it finally a couple of days ago. But they charge for it... *I* personally agree with you, Alexander. May we live long enough to eat crow. But, there is obviously a significant market for a _small_ company, like RIT Labs. The Corel's FTP servers have been jammed since they released the Linux OS and places like Buy.com sold out in a week. Of course, Corel being Corel - and I'm a longtime user of the WP family of software - they managed to frustrate alot of users when the 'user-friendly' installation program Corel designed crashed, because of conflicts with some obscure video chips - like the S3 Virge and ATI Rage. Duh. Typifying, though, Linux's obstacles to making any serious inroads in the Windows market. OTOH, I see some interesting signs of interest in Linux from some interesting actors, the most recent and notable here being the federal government. In a supported environment, everything could be moved to Linux, if the office productivity applications are there. The pricing of NT5 for the workplace - and MS backed off their first predatory pricing scheme, but it revealed their thinking - is important in both the government and small business sectors and could alone drive a move to Linux. In any case, if I were RIT Labs, I'd definitely be making plans for the port ASAP. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Just an interesting problem:-) and a pair of wishlist items.
Hi there! On 11 Dec 99, at 19:10, Paula Ford wrote about "Re: Just an interesting problem:-) ": 1. Add the Global match modifier, please! Sounds sensible to me, but then I don't really care. :) *I* do... Actually, the *only* thing TB is better then Pegasus in (not considering GUI -- but I usually don't care about GUI that much anyhow, it's functionality that matters for _me_: one can get accustomed to any GUI IMHO) is all this scripting (starting from the Templates, and then regular expressions, etc., etc.). If there were no such tools in TB, I'd have unsubscribed from here way ago --- and would've trashed TB (mainly due to it's multiple bugs)... So I'm *very much* interested in expanding and extending the regular expressions support; furthermore, I would *love* to see the direct support for Perl scripting in TB. Even if this required one to install Perl (FYI, I've got it installed for quite a long time already:)). snip 2. Implement the possibility to define new templates based on the existing ones, please! I don't think I understand this one. You want to be able to modify all or a selected group of templates at once? If so, we've discussed that quite a bit in the past, but you seem to be saying something else. Wow, Paula, that was clearly a typo on my part. Actually I ment "macroses". I'd love to be able to define my _own_ macroses based on the ones already available. Just a "dummie" example (not useful at all, but...): %MYDATE = "%DATEEN (St. Petersburg, Russia: GMT +0300)" This might come to be *pretty* useful if you start using the regexp-based macros. Regular Expressions are fairly long, and one can construct many useful things with their help, it would be lofical to have some way to "group" them having given them descriptive names --- and this _is_ a definition of new macro function. -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: In any human endeavor, once you have exhausted all possibilities and fail, there will be one solution, simple and obvious, highly visible to everyone else. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: SOT Linux port?
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Steve Lamb wrote: But, are any of these Linux users willing to pay for an application? There are three types of Linux users. Which group are you referring to? I wasn't aware that there were established species of Linux users, especially since all my propeller-head friends prefer FreeBSD, but yours make sense. Group 1 and Group 2 are about an equal size and there is potential there for profit. Agreed, especially for a small company. Especially when you consider the fact that there is no decent email client on Unix at present. I won't say they are powerful, since they kick the crap out of TB! in that department. However, TB! (and PMMail) pack a lot of power into the interface, which is something the unix programmers have, thus far, ignored. N? Really? Group 3... Well, Group 3 is the one powering the Red Hat IPO and the VALinux IPO. Group 3, if Linux really takes hold, is the one that will grow quite large. Obviously. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Request: The Bat for Linux!
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Deryk Lister wrote: I would really like to see The Bat ported to Linux. Please reply here if you agree, then I will forward the thread to Ritlabs... if there are enough of us willing to pay for a Linux version then perhaps they will consider looking in to the idea. Or better yet, email Deryk directly. ;) I believe RIT Labs is interested in porting, Deryk, but they are waiting for Borland to port Delphi - 6 months at least. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Request: The Bat for Linux!
Hi Sashka, On Sunday 12/12/1999 at 01:01, you wrote: IMHO, Ritlabs IS READING this list. And earlier today Stanislav Polozov told, that Delphi compiler for Linux is not ready yet. Ah ok, didn't think they did :) So, we keep waiting while Borland is developing Delphi for Linux. They promising to release it somewhere in q1 or q2 (don't remember exactly) of 2000. Go Borland! Glad to see Linux is really starting to make an impact. When this happens, I suspect most programs will only need a recompile and perhaps a few small tweaks to work with Linux. This could be good... -- Best regards, Derykmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Just an interesting problem:-) and a pair of wishlist items.
Paula Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [] 2. Implement the possibility to define new templates based on the existing ones, please! Obviously, these user-defined templates need to be system- wide and there needs to be some place where their definitions are to be stored (and edited by the user), for example, this could be a new page in Account Preferences or any other:-) I don't think I understand this one. You want to be able to modify all or a selected group of templates at once? If so, we've discussed that quite a bit in the past, but you seem to be saying something else. I'm not sure either. System wide templates are already implemented in the form of quick templates. He may be referring to having to make the same change to templates in multiple folders. One good example is the %SINGLERE macro. I had to go through and apply it to all my reply templates one by one. I think he's probably saying that one should have the option to make changes to all templates of a particular type. -- Ali Martin | Using The Bat! v1.38e mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ Variables won't; constants aren't. ] ___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Filtering Parked messages
Hi all, I've noted something curious. If you apply filters to a folder and a parked message meets the filtering criteria. The parked message is copied to the destination folder and then parked. The original parked message remains in the target folder. If you apply the filter again, the parked message gets copied again and so on. I realized this when trying to figure out why ten copies of a number of parked messages were in a particular folder. I have been applying manual filters to a folder containing a few parked messages and copies are being sent to the destination folder each time I apply the filters. This seems to be a bug to me. -- Ali Martin | Using The Bat! v1.38e mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ Writer's Rule #2: About those sentence fragments. ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Request: The Bat for Linux!
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Deryk Lister wrote: On Sunday 12/12/1999 at 01:12, Paula wrote: Or better yet, email Deryk directly. ;) Or even better than that, don't :) Hehe... can just imagine an inbox full of "yeah I'd like to see TB for Linux too" messages! Better only your mailbox than all our mailboxes. laugh -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Filtering Parked messages
On Saturday, December 11, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: I've noted something curious. If you apply filters to a folder and a parked message meets the filtering criteria. The parked message is copied to the destination folder and then parked. The original parked message remains in the target folder. If you apply the filter again, the parked message gets copied again and so on. I noticed the same thing when we were discussing filters with Douglas and I was trying out different things. It seems a bug to me, too. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: SOT Linux port?
Sunday, December 12, 1999 Hello *I* personally don't think so, unless Corel Linux proves to be working OS... They've released it finally a couple of days ago. But they charge for it... Acc to what I read they have 3 versions and a free one is available, you have to pay if you want the bundled one with WP full included. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e SPECIALISTS in datarecovery/virus removal/hard disk recovery / Computer repairs / sales / Maintenance contracts / System backups mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] website : Under construction phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
TBUDL@THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: archive@jab.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia X-List-Command: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a moderator or member of this list. Only a moderator or member may post to this list. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Filtering Parked messages
Sunday, December 12, 1999 Hello Ali, Sunday, Sunday, December 12, 1999, you wrote: Ali Hi all, Ali I've noted something curious. If you apply filters to a folder and a Ali parked message meets the filtering criteria. The parked message is Ali copied to the destination folder and then parked. The original parked Ali message remains in the target folder. If you apply the filter again, Ali the parked message gets copied again and so on. Ali I realized this when trying to figure out why ten copies of a number Ali of parked messages were in a particular folder. I have been applying Ali manual filters to a folder containing a few parked messages and Ali copies are being sent to the destination folder each time I apply the Ali filters. Ali This seems to be a bug to me. Agreed, I found that as well over the last few months. if its a feature, I donot like it. Secondly, I want to be able to removed dupes over all my accounts/boxes in one go Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e SPECIALISTS in datarecovery/virus removal/hard disk recovery / Computer repairs / sales / Maintenance contracts / System backups mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] website : Under construction phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
kill filters inquiry
Hello Bat Buddies, Kill Filters seem pretty simple to me, but what I noticed is that if I drag and drop a filter from another category (ie. Incoming mail) then certain numbers will appear in the signal strings. For example, I've had a filter to automatically discard those odd error messages from this mailing list (those that say "[EMAIL PROTECTED] .COM is a private mailing list"). The filter was set up as follows in my Incoming mail filters: Source folder: Inbox Move messages to: Trash String: @THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list Location: Subject Presence: Yes In the signal string, I omitted "TBUDL" so it can catch these messages from TBBETA as well. No problems. I drag drop this filter to the Kill Filters, the signal string turns into: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a private mailing list Where did that 20 come from? If I drag other filters with different parameters into Kill Filters, different numbers come up. I suppose the number represents an internal parameter used (and normally hidden) in TB, but if so, how does it affect the functionality of this filter when moved to Kill Filters? The Help file doesn't seem to have any information on this. Can anyone shed some light? -- Unequivocally, Jason Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v1.38e -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: kill filters inquiry
Sunday, December 12, 1999 Hello Jason, Sunday, Sunday, December 12, 1999, you wrote: Jason Hello Bat Buddies, Jason Kill Filters seem pretty simple to me, but what I noticed is that if I Jason drag and drop a filter from another category (ie. Incoming mail) then Jason certain numbers will appear in the signal strings. Jason For example, I've had a filter to automatically discard those odd error Jason messages from this mailing list (those that say "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason .COM is a private mailing list"). The filter was set up as follows in my Jason Incoming mail filters: Jason Source folder: Inbox Jason Move messages to: Trash Jason String: @THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list Jason Location: Subject Jason Presence: Yes Jason In the signal string, I omitted "TBUDL" so it can catch these messages Jason from TBBETA as well. No problems. I drag drop this filter to the Kill Jason Filters, the signal string turns into: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a private mailing list 20 is a space character Jason Where did that 20 come from? If I drag other filters with different Jason parameters into Kill Filters, different numbers come up. I suppose the Jason number represents an internal parameter used (and normally hidden) in Jason TB, but if so, how does it affect the functionality of this filter when Jason moved to Kill Filters? Jason The Help file doesn't seem to have any information on this. Can anyone Jason shed some light? Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e SPECIALISTS in datarecovery/virus removal/hard disk recovery / Computer repairs / sales / Maintenance contracts / System backups mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] website : Under construction phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Default column properties
When I right click on a folder and select "Properties", there is an option called "Use the account default column settings". My question is: how do I change the account default column settings? -- Take care, Travis -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
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Hello TBUDL, I've been running The Bat since 1.35, and since 1.36 have experienced crashes every once in a while. This usually happens when I am doing nothing, and then move my mouse to the NT taskbar. I run The Bat to iconify in the taskbar, and when the taskbar appears (I have it autohide), The Bat crashes. If I catch it in time, I see an exception error message box, but most of the time it is silent. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I am currently running 1.38e. -- Best regards, Aaron mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: SOT Linux port?
Hallo Steve, On Sunday, December 12, 1999, 7:48:33 AM (GMT+0800), Steve Lamb wrote: One more thing, on a totally different track. Are there any good directories on the internet that provide data regarding the people behind the email address? Meaning, can you obtain more detailed data regarding the person using the email address, when that's all you have? Thanks in advance for the answers. SL Geez, I hope not. Personal privacy is being invaded left and right in SL record numbers. We don't need a central database for anyone to get into on SL the 'net to make it even lower! You can always finger, but many server deny access. Then there are Lycos' White Pages. And, if you're on Compuservere, you can find info about other Cserver members. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Poco Mail
Hallo Alexander, On Sunday, December 12, 1999, 6:09:44 AM (GMT+0800), Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: I was purusing http://winfiles.cnet.com/apps/98/mail-clients.html and noticed this Poco Mail. Has anyone here tried this mailer. I'm wondering how it compares to TB. AVK *I* liked it, personally, but almost the first thing I noticed about AVK it was that it wouldn't deal with Russian at all. Trashed it in a AVK couple of hours:-) As for the other features... Well, the AVK functionality is quite limited (in the same areas, where TB's AVK functionality is limited, too, like complex MIME structures), but it AVK was quite stable here and I noticed no serious bugs (OTOH AVK when I first launched TB, my own "bugs list" occupied about an AVK A4 page:-)). I didn't look at the web site, but: isn't Poco one of those old Unix mailers? Or am I mixing something up? -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: bug in 1.38 (maybe even earlier)
Hallo Paula, On Sunday, December 12, 1999, 4:21:45 AM (GMT+0800), Paula Ford wrote: PF I've encountered something else I don't understand in my own setup. PF ALT-F2 should check all accounts for mail, but when I try either the key PF combo or menu item, it checks only one of my accounts and it doesn't PF matter if that account is the active account or not. I only have 2 PF accounts, so I don't know if the behavior would differ would more PF accounts. I never use the Check All option, so I don't know if this is PF something new or not, or I don't understand what Check All should do. Have you checked "Ignore 'Check-All Accounts' Request" in Options? Check All checks all accounts except those ignoring the request. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: SOT Linux port?
Hallo tracer, On Saturday, December 11, 1999, 7:24:39 PM (GMT+0800), tracer wrote: Paula Judging by the response to VA Linux going public, RIT Labs should drop Paula everything to develop a Linux version (new name - The Penguin!). Then, a Paula few of us long-time, loyal users find a way to get it incorporated in Paula the USA, roll out an IPO, and all get rich overnight. No need to have Paula any prospects for making a profit. t You might be surprised as considering the clammering on the various t beta Linux groups about a decent email program, a good one IS sellable t probably not if its sold from Russia out though Why is that? And, by the way, Ritlabs is based in Moldava g. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --