Re[2]: Limits?
Hello A. Curtis Martin, On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:04:47 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, August 24, 2000, 04:04:47 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, A. Curtis Martin wrote: ACM As far as I know, there's no limitation on the number of messages one ACM can store in a folder or the number of entries one can keep in the ACM address book. Based on Delphi 2 experience I'd make a *guess* at about 65536 messages per folder. This is based on a long integer being used to store the number of messages. Then again Stefan might have used an longword allowing for 4294967295 messages per folder. If we go really mad and use an extended floating point number we could have 1.1 x 10^4932 messages per folder. Of course a lot of this depends on the number of items a Delphi 2 listBox supports. In VB I think it's only 32768 items in a list. -- Jamie Dainton On Thursday, August 24, 2000 at 08:03:05 The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey APATHY ERROR: Don't bother striking any key. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Extra lines in header
Hi PPL. Is it possible to add extra lines to the mail header? And how can I do so? With respect, Pavel A Crasotin -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Limits?
Olá Wayne, quarta-feira, 23 de agosto de 2000, você escreveu: WB I am new to this list and am getting some getting some very good WB information from everyone. I just wanted to know if The Bat has been WB tested with a very large number of messages in it's folders. Does it WB have a limit to the number of messages in a folder or the number of WB entries in the address book? I don't really understand the limitations WB section of the help file. Thanks and have a great day! I put 14 accounts and have arround 1 mails in the total some months ago!! Address book I really don't know, I don't use much! []s, Viktor Mota mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Limits?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:37:34 +0900, Leif Gregory wrote: LG He must have gone long word then, because at one point I had 70,000+ a LG few years back (before I started archiving them off every once in a LG while). Is that for a single folder (which is the limit Jaimie is referring to I think)? -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Remember, Subaru spelled backwards is U-R-A-BUS. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Extra lines in header
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:36:09 +0400, pavel wrote: p Is it possible to add extra lines to the mail header? And how can I p do so? I see that you're using version 1.44 and, AFAIK, the answer to that is no. This is the same as well for the latest release, version 1.45. The latest beta does support this via the %Comments macro. For further information and beta discussions you'd have to join our beta list. There's also another little app built for The Bat! called X-Ray, which you could use to insert additional header lines. See: http://xraysoft.cjb.net/ -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "As they say in Beirut, Shiite happens. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Limits?
Hello A. Curtis Martin, On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:17:15 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, August 24, 2000, 13:17:15 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, A. Curtis Martin wrote: ACM Is that for a single folder (which is the limit Jamie is referring to I ACM think)? I am referring to a single folder. I imagine that the total number of messages providing each folder has less than the limit is near infinite (based on using a huge (infinite) swap file). -- Jamie Dainton On Thursday, August 24, 2000 at 13:33:31 The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey Error: Sector not found -- search behind couch? (Y/N) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
add-ons for TB?
Hello, There's also another little app built for The Bat! called X-Ray, which you could use to insert additional header lines. See: http://xraysoft.cjb.net/ Are there more than this add-on available for TB? -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Limits?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Leif, On 24 August 2000 at 18:37:34 GMT +0900 (which was 10:37 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Limits?": JD Of course a lot of this depends on the number of items a Delphi 2 JD listBox supports. AFAIK TB uses Delphi3 and V2 may be a D5 application. JD In VB I think it's only 32768 items in a list. LG He must have gone long word then, because at one point I had LG 70,000+ a few years back (before I started archiving them off LG every once in a while). Marck will remember that discussion. It's in the archive here. I only have a measly 64k messages in my message base g. LG And that was with the *old* messagebase structure. It was slow go LG opening most of my folders back then. Nowadays, it's pretty LG snappy. I think there's still a performance trade-off point. I find folders start to slow down once they get around 8k messages in them. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Everyone is entitled to my opinion TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Win4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Signed so you know it's really me iQA/AwUBOaT+mznkJKuSnc2gEQJYqgCg8YCSjgKdJKUZj5+QpijH7ILnopwAn0tL GFs4xRvX6k6V33a4EZquvcns =jLSn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Limits?
Hello A., On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 at 07:17:15 [GMT -0500], you wrote: LG He must have gone long word then, because at one point I had LG 70,000+ a few years back (before I started archiving them off LG every once in a while). ACM Is that for a single folder (which is the limit Jaimie is ACM referring to I think)? Errr, guess I need to read better. That was 70,000 for a single account. Bringing up a couple of old archives, the most I've had in any one folder at one time was 12,373. Sorry for any confusions. :-) Cheers, Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: When you go into court you are putting yourself in the hands of 12 people that weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
No Subject
I travel so I use TB using various dialups (normally to my isp through their remote connections) and through my clients internet connections. This has always worked well. I am now at a new client and at this location I can receive mail using TB but I can not send mail. I get a timeout connection error sending. The settings have not changed .. the only wild card is the new client. Why would I be able to receive but not give .. MAN .. I want to be a giver g The IS staff here are scratching their heads saying .. can't receive huh .. then I say I can't receive .. then they say .. can't receive huh ... Any REASONABLE help would be appreciated. thanks DSig -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Limits?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Leif, On 24 August 2000 at 23:22:52 GMT +0900 (which was 15:22 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Limits?": ACM Is that for a single folder (which is the limit Jaimie is ACM referring to I think)? LG Errr, guess I need to read better. That was 70,000 for a single LG account. Bringing up a couple of old archives, the most I've had in LG any one folder at one time was 12,373. My maximum was 18k+, but that folder was so slow that I have now split it into three. (Yes, it's the TBUDL archive!). - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Headline - Teacher Strikes Idle Kids TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Win4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Signed so you know it's really me iQA/AwUBOaU+kDnkJKuSnc2gEQILKQCg1OvtfEBIpRksNuIhc1w/rm2IUgcAoI0T QzP3b42HynmJgqTcUfGIwdY7 =1IMk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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d I travel so I use TB using various dialups (normally to my isp through their d remote connections) and through my clients internet connections. This has d always worked well. d I am now at a new client and at this location I can receive mail using TB but I d can not send mail. I get a timeout connection error sending. If you are connected to your ISP via a dial-up of theirs, and your current TB installation has worked before and works again when you go home, then you must be lying. ;) If you're using IPass or something like that, I would imagine that Teleport might have some blockers on their outgoing mail server to only allow connections from machines on their network(s) (I used to be a Teleport customer, way back in the day). In this case you'll have to get help from Teleport's support staff on connecting to their mail server from a remote location. Same goes for the case where you're plugging your computer into the client's network (unless they're served by Teleport). Obviously it would be tough to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can't send mail, so in that case I suggest looking up their 1-800 number (if they still have it, they just installed it as I was on my way out), or "temporarily" change TB to use the same outgoing mail server as everyone else in the building. If that doesn't work, they have a 1-800 support line for help in connecting to their email services, 800-223-3435 if memory serves. :) -tom! -- Bah, ridiculous thing. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Am I missing something?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 How does one get TB! to set itself as default mail client without going through the install? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOaWPh3pf7K2LbpnFEQLCRwCg511JZMVcpPzPs+EDvD+U29WbR4gAnjd4 Kjb7pd79Cbk/F5VMdr9BYsp5 =Tr9T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Am I missing something?
Hi Steve On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:11:35 -0700GMT (which was 24/08/2000, 23:11 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: SL How does one get TB! to set itself as default mail client without going SL through the install? Control Panel - Internet Options - Programs = Email = "The Bat!" hth :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * Give instruction to a wise man and he will be yet wiser. Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 on Windows 98 4.10 build A with a Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 23Gb Hd -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Received window shifts (or the contents do...)
Hi fellow Bat! fans, Strange Bat! behaviour. Scroll through messages using Ctrl ], then sick of the thread, click on next thread with mouse. Mails in window showing mails (right hand top of screen) shifts over to the left, so I always have to hit the scroll bar at the bottom of this window to see the next e-mail subject. Has this been reported before - apologies if so. Any fix? (Using Windoze 98, Bat! 1.45) BTW this only happens when a thread has been expanded. If I do the same (click) on an unexpanded thread, no problems. -- Best regards, John Phillips Sydney,Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are humans good to eat, Daddy? -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Threading not always correct? (was Re[2]: How can I skip the CC field when using tab from the TO: field?)
Hello
Sunday, August 20, 2000, 4:22:07 AM, you wrote:
GG Hello Marck and everyone else...
MDP Having said that (and it is true) beware the "References" and
MDP "In-reply-to" headers which contain threading information for replies.
MDP This can lead to unrelated issues becoming threaded together.
GG I've noticed totally unrelated subjects get threaded together, and I'm
GG never sure if the sender used a reply function rather than creating a
GG new message, or if either TB or TBUDL is not processing the references
GG properly. Can anyone provide an explanation?
GG --
GG Gold Gauramimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GG
GG Why is Santa so jolly?
GG Because he knows where all the bad girls live!
GG//Flying high with The Bat! v1.46 Beta/3
GG//Over the land of Win98 v4.10 build 1998
GG//Fueled by an AMD K6-2 400mhz, 128mb RAM, and fusion.
They never have yet, AFAIK. {Free} Agent, which I have used more
extensively than Bat! never seems to have a sorting problem, but
{Free} Agent is unfortunately now an orphan, and of course Bat! is
more powerful (except for newsreader capabilities as well as mail
which Agent can do, but only from the same server (and one server
only) as the mail. Notwithstanding this rant, IMHO, Bat! is the best
bar none.
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Re: Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam
Hello Monday, August 14, 2000, 5:50:58 PM, you wrote: SL -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SL Hash: SHA1 SL Once again the question of effective filtering of spam has come up and SL once again people have made suggestions which simply do not work. A "bozo SL bin" doesn't work because spammers most likely move to a different address SL before you even check your mail and read the message. All they do is provide SL an extra filter that needs to be run and virtually nil chance of catching SL anyone. SL Filters on subjects or on pseudo-techincal means also fail because they SL generate false positives, are ineffective (maake monie know!), and can block SL legit users for dubious return. SL So, without futher buildup, here's the system that I put to this list back SL in January. Let me know that in that time I had instituted that filter on my SL home account and was catching 2-3 spam a day and cannot recall a single SL positive hit /aside/ from when I started a new list and hadn't gotten a SL message in from it yet to set up the filtering. SL In another message in a related thread I noted that I had once figured out SL hit hit/miss/false positive hit ratio on my mail. Something like 99.95% hit, SL .001% false positive with the remainder, .049%, being spam getting through to SL my inbox. That was over several years of using that system on PMMail on an SL account that was spammed heavily and on which I got in excess of 500 messages SL per day. SL Frankly, this should be a FAQ. SL ===Original message text=== SL From: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] SL To: Fred Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED] SL Date: Monday, January 10, 2000, 11:10:57 AM SL Subject: TheBat and Spam SL Monday, January 10, 2000, 9:57:35 AM, Fred wrote: little while. Today, this quote caught my eye. Can you tell me about your spam system? Where can I find the specifics for it? Will it in fact do what tracer asks (i.e. dump mail which has sender=receiver)? SL No, it doesn't do that. However, it doesn't have to. Allie recently sent SL a message out that described it so you might have it. If not, here's the SL short version. SL The two basic premises are this: SL 1: Nearly every spammer BCCs. SL 2: People get mail from two sources, directly addressed to them from SL individuals they know or mass mailed (BCC) mailing lists they signed up for. SL Instead of trying to filter spam, we're going to define a set of rules to SL filter everything but spam. SL So, we set up a series of filters. The first batch filters out all the SL mailing lists that the individual is on. Most people do this anyway. Once SL they filter it, it stops. SL The second series of filters catches mail from individuals who /may/ BCC SL the person. Friends, family, loved ones, work colleagues, etc. SL The next to last filter stops filtering on anything which is directly SL addressed to the individual. SL The last filter moves everything that wasn't caught by the above filters SL into a spam folder for the person to double check for something that might SL have been missed and final deletion. SL Another way to put it is like this... If it isn't a mailing list, from SL friends/relatives or directly addressed to you, chances are high that it is SL spam. SL In tracer's case, if sender = recipient chances are it isn't on a mailing SL list he is on, it isn't from someone he expects to BCC him, and, clearly, it SL isn't from him. It will be filtered. SL - -- SL Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your SL ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. SL - ---+- SL End of original message text=== SL - -- SL Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your SL ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. SL - ---+- SL -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- SL Version: PGP 6.5i SL iQA/AwUBOZek4npf7K2LbpnFEQLgvwCgk631yX18d3rCX+0DPSCIAaL9Q3AAnjrR SL 9SLSmd7ItKy3Bz3XDMmDFXpF SL =yOhM SL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Steve my Shrink, For the computer challenged amongst us (present company excepted of course g), can you post a copy of these filters? Thanks. -- Regards John Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Am I missing something?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roel, On 24 August 2000 at 23:24:40 GMT +0200 (which was 22:24 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Am I missing something?": SL How does one get TB! to set itself as default mail client SL without going through the install? R Control Panel - Internet Options - Programs R = Email = "The Bat!" I think you'll find that is only for IE users, among whom IIRC the illustrious Mr. Lamb does not number himself. Isn't the default mail program about the registration of the 'mailto:' protocol and how the default browser deals with 'mailto' links? Beyond that, we're into the MAPI domain, which sadly does not yet apply to TB. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Signed so you know it's really me iQA/AwUBOaWXBTnkJKuSnc2gEQIdOACfQIXRX3JrBpNYmyNEAij00NbIeIkAn3zn XcC28zGHcowMGVquxahXVtbp =Uw8u -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Received window shifts (or the contents do...)
Hello John, Thursday, August 24, 2000, 5:14:23 PM, you wrote: JP Hi fellow Bat! fans, JP Strange Bat! behaviour. Scroll through messages using Ctrl ], then JP sick of the thread, click on next thread with mouse. Mails in window JP showing mails (right hand top of screen) shifts over to the left, so JP I always have to hit the scroll bar at the bottom of this window to JP see the next e-mail subject. Has this been reported before - JP apologies if so. Any fix? (Using Windoze 98, Bat! 1.45) JP BTW this only happens when a thread has been expanded. If I do the JP same (click) on an unexpanded thread, no problems. John, I have the same problem, but mainly find it occuring when I click on the sent items folder. -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Am I missing something?
Hi Marck On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:43:33 +0100GMT (which was 24/08/2000, 23:43 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: MDP I think you'll find that is only for IE users, among whom IIRC the MDP illustrious Mr. Lamb does not number himself. Isn't the default mail MDP program about the registration of the 'mailto:' protocol and how the MDP default browser deals with 'mailto' links? Beyond that, we're into the MDP MAPI domain, which sadly does not yet apply to TB. It's not only for IE-users, but for everyone who uses windows 98/98se or windows 95 with IE 4+... Only the people who have completely removed IE from their systems can't use this... for manually re-registring the 'mailto:'-protocol, use this: windows explorer - view - folder options - file types - URL:MailTo Protocol 'actions' - 'open' - edit - application=path_to_tb!_executable my .02 -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * Warning: Politicians can be hazardous to your wealth. Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 on Windows 98 4.10 build A with a Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 23Gb Hd -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam
Hello John, On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 at 17:01:33 [GMT +1000], you wrote: JP Steve my Shrink, JP For the computer challenged amongst us (present company excepted JP of course g), can you post a copy of these filters? Thanks. How would he do that? It's filtering SPAM by exception, meaning that you create filters for things you want to keep, and everything else is caught by the last filter as SPAM. About the only filter he might have in common this way is for TBUDL and TBBETA (even then there is no guarantee), and maybe the last filter to move SPAM to the trash. Everything else is going to be fairly unique to Steve based on his family, friends, mailing/discussion lists he's subscribed to etc. Cheers, Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A bunch of bunnies hopping backwards: a receding hare line. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Am I missing something?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roel, On 24 August 2000 at 00:01:28 GMT +0200 (which was 23:01 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Am I missing something?": MDP I think you'll find that is only for IE users, among whom IIRC MDP the illustrious Mr. Lamb does not number himself. Isn't the MDP default mail program about the registration of the 'mailto:' MDP protocol and how the default browser deals with 'mailto' links? MDP Beyond that, we're into the MAPI domain, which sadly does not MDP yet apply to TB. R It's not only for IE-users, but for everyone who uses windows 98/98se R or windows 95 with IE 4+... R Only the people who have completely removed IE from their systems R can't use this... Which does apply to at least two users here I can think of ... (not me, I hasten to add) :-). R for manually re-registring the 'mailto:'-protocol, use this: R windows explorer - view - folder options - file types - URL:MailTo Protocol R 'actions' - 'open' - edit - application=path_to_tb!_executable R my .02 Perfect answer. Thanks Roel. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Headline - Enfields Couple Slain; Police Suspect Homicide TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Signed so you know it's really me iQA/AwUBOaWeMDnkJKuSnc2gEQKDrACgub4VIZDKzpITVsaBiYPlRUypMrUAoLIi qQY2i4NoUmqLugLNGRWBe9T7 =1FwD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: add-ons for TB?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:13:00 +0200, Daniel Friedmann wrote: There's also another little app built for The Bat! called X-Ray, which you could use to insert additional header lines. See: http://xraysoft.cjb.net/ DF Are there more than this add-on available for TB? It's not really an add-on in the sense of a plug-in. It's an independent application but created with specifically TB! in mind. I don't know of any other complimentary apps for TB!. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Any philosophy that can be put in a nutshell belongs there " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Am I missing something?
Hi Marck On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 23:14:08 +0100GMT (which was 25/08/2000, 0:14 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: MDP Which does apply to at least two users here I can think of ... MDP (not me, I hasten to add) :-). Who's the other one? It doesn't come to mind right now... :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * Hypocrisy is the vaseline of social intercourse. Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 on Windows 98 4.10 build A with a Amd Athlon 700 @ 256 MB 23Gb Hd -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
SOT: IE? (was: Re: Am I missing something?)
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 00:01:28 +0200, Roel wrote: R It's not only for IE-users, but for everyone who uses windows 98/98se R or windows 95 with IE 4+... R Only the people who have completely removed IE from their systems R can't use this... IIRC, a fresh install of NT4 still has only IE2. I once had to install IE3 (because too many software packages today require that for 'embedded browsing'), but I *won't* install any IE4 or 5 on this machine - it is much too solid without it (never change a running system) Peter (using TB! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 SP4) -- Peter Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:01:33 +1000, John Phillips wrote: JP For the computer challenged amongst us (present company excepted of JP course g), can you post a copy of these filters? Thanks. Kind of an impractical request but let me see if my illustration will make you better understand. For one to understand and implement this method, it needs to be realised that when a message is filtered, it isn't subject to subsequent filtering by filter rules that are after the rule which matched the message (unless you enable the 'continue processing with other filters' switch). This is how my filtering looks schematically: - PGPKey request filter - Discussion list filters here. - Filter rules for messages from friends - Filter rules for messages from family - Filter rules for messages from news and other promo sites to which I have subscribed. All that's left to be filtered are messages addressed directly to me that are from individuals or groups for which I haven't created filters and messages being BCC'd to me. Let's continue with the filtering: - I now create a non-specific filter rule to match messages with 'To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the headers. By now, 98-99% of the messages left are spam. Last but not least: - I create a non-specific filter rule to match *any* message and move them to the spam folder. I use the filter string 'e' since the letter 'e' appears in all messages. One could simply make the filter delete the message but this may lead to an occasional legitimate message that has been BCC'd to you being lost. TB! however has per-folder settings to purge folders which is nice. I have my spam folder set to keep messages no longer than a week. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "SENILE.COM found: out of memory... " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Font offer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, For you guys out there who may be running high resolutions I have a font for you. I'm presently running at a 1600x1200 resolution using large fonts and at size 11, Lucida Sans Typ is great since it's nicely anti-aliased at this size. If you're using lower screen resolutions, you may have to use a prohibitively high font size to take advantage of anti-aliasing (font smoothing). The font looks pretty crappy to me when not smoothed but you may try it anyway if you like and make your own decision. :-) Note however, that although Lucida Sans Typ is a fixed width font it will not appear in the list of fixed width fonts. A registry hack works beautifully. "Simply" change the following value to Lucida Sans Typ after installing the font: HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat/Editor/Font (For those who may not realize, you need to close TB! before doing this and then restart it afterwards). You may download the font here: http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/lucida.zip - -- - -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Imagination is more important than knowledge - Einstein " -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: Included for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOaXQ+fAXeSHuB5k3EQLNxACfYon2qUnVF/6EUusDyez8UfYvc+wAnjGz d809KtPH2vYryenWy19Lfetw =iKLX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TagLines ....
I could not help but notice that many of you have different "Tag Lines" in your e-mail every time you send one to the list. My questions is, do you have a template that changes the tag line of every e-mail, or are you changing it manually every time you send an e-mail? ALSO if it is a template, could you please describe how you did it. Thanks P.S. - TheBat is the best e-mail program I found. As you can see from my tag line, I got rid of LookOut !! :) - The ULTIMATE security fix/patch for LookOut! and LookOut! Express ... The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3!! Jodymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TagLines ....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jody, On 25 August 2000 at 22:48:04 GMT -0500 (which was 04:48 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "TagLines ": JW My questions is, do you have a template that changes the tag line JW of every e-mail, or are you changing it manually every time you JW send an e-mail? ALSO if it is a template, could you please JW describe how you did it. Add the macro %COOKIE to your template and enter your taglines in the Account -- Properties -- Templates -- Cookies entry field. Each separate cookie is on a line of the edit box. If you need a cookie to span multiple lines, enter it as a single line and break it with the sequence "\n" (without quotes) wherever you want a line break to appear. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Headline - Stolen Painting Found by Tree TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Signed so you know it's really me iQA/AwUBOaXzlznkJKuSnc2gEQKP3wCfYXe0nr5vsGAyqtCz6c54WV0EJeYAoOhO CZRhZNvhsKoZ5FIE3usYLed5 =6NXV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam
I've been using the Spambouncer on a shell account for many years. It works VERY well! See http://www.spambouncer.org/ It comes in two parts, one is customized to fit personal stuff, and the other is a large program to do rather detailed filtering of spam. Anyone interested in what it takes to do a *good* job on spam might look at the code. All is free, and the procmail code is posted and used to filter. On a later wish list it might be nice to 'add-on' such a sophisticated filtering technique. In the meantime, how would one go about using this code to filter mail, assuming you do NOT have shell access or file permissions on your email ISP host. It would have to be done on the local/Win machine. Any ideas? This works very well, and I 'd like to use it, but can't think of a way to do it. No Win/procmail, that I know of, and no easy hook to the message stream. -- Best regards, ztradermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TagLines ....
Hello Marck, On Thursday, August 24, 2000 at 05:18:16 GMT +0100 (which was 9:18 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Add the macro %COOKIE to your template and enter your taglines in the Account -- Properties -- Templates -- Cookies entry field. Each separate cookie is on a line of the edit box. If you need a cookie to span multiple lines, enter it as a single line and break it with the sequence "\n" (without quotes) wherever you want a line break to appear. Just to add to that, if you have multiple accounts and want to share your cookies across accounts, put your taglines in the same format, but in a text file somewhere on your hard drive. For example, C:\The Bat!\taglines.txt Then use the macro %Cookie="C:\The Bat!\taglines.txt" -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Received window shifts (or the contents do...)
Hello John, On Thursday, August 24, 2000 at 17:14:23 GMT +1000 (which was 12:14 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hi fellow Bat! fans, Strange Bat! behaviour. Scroll through messages using Ctrl ], then sick of the thread, click on next thread with mouse. Mails in window showing mails (right hand top of screen) shifts over to the left, so I always have to hit the scroll bar at the bottom of this window to see the next e-mail subject. It will happen if you click on a column that is too big to fit in the current screen. Try clicking on the subject when selecting a new message to read. To get back, you can also use the left arrow key with the message list pane in focus. Has this been reported before - apologies if so. If I remember correctly, Lief Gregory reported this quite some time ago. It doesn't get much press. I think overall it is a good behaviour, if a bit inconvenient at times. Any fix? (Using Windoze 98, Bat! 1.45) Well, not really a fix, just a work around. See above. BTW this only happens when a thread has been expanded. If I do the same (click) on an unexpanded thread, no problems. It will happen with both. You probably notice it with the threads expanded since, in threaded view, the first column's width is variable. So you are more likely to push a column off to the right. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
