Re[2]: turkish character
Hi Peter, I saw the turkish script in Options/Xlat tables. in the "Translation INTO Windows" window and "Translation FROM Windows" window I see the Turkish character, but i dont know how to use XLat tables or activate Thanks for your help YC I have one problem with Turkish character (ISO-8859-9). YC I could read the messages with written in Turkish character, YC But i couldnt write messages with Turkish characters. PS There is indeed no choice for ISO-8859-9 in the message encoding menu. PS But in "Options/XLat tables" there is something that looks like an PS editor for adding new encodings (I have never used it myself). PS Perhaps you could add your own encoding, otherwise it should be a PS small amount of work for RIT Labs to add this encoding for the next PS Beta... Best regards, Yalcin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[2]: Someone spamming us
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 31.08.00: snip MDP I *have* received this spam. Only one copy, and I am active on both MDP lists. Hmmm... another beta lister that got the spam. The plot thickens. Did anyone NOT on the beta list get it? Yep ! I'm only in TBUDL ! The mail adress I use for TBUDL is /only/ used for TB-discussion. I usually publish my first account which is not located at web.de. BUT the web.de adress is an additional adress to my PGP-key which is published on several key-servers. Did anyone get the spam who has no PGP-key or whose adress is not linked to a PGP-key ? snip Cheers Gerd ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: turkish character
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:01:29 +0300, Yalcin Cekic wrote: YC I saw the turkish script in Options/Xlat tables. YC in the "Translation INTO Windows" window YC and "Translation FROM Windows" window I see the Turkish YC character, but i dont know how to use XLat tables or activate Make sure you have created your translation table. As Ming-Li stated, it is probably enough to select the turkish script, no modification needed on the translation tabs. For using it, I know of at least two possibilities: - in the message editor you can choose one of the installed XLAT tables for each new message under "Options/Message encoding" (or right-click on the most right field in the status bar) - in the account properties on the new message template tab you can select your default encoding. HTH, Regards Peter -- Peter Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Someone spamming us
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:00:01 +0200, Gerd Ewald wrote: MDP I *have* received this spam. Only one copy, and I am active on both MDP lists. Hmmm... another beta lister that got the spam. The plot thickens. Did anyone NOT on the beta list get it? GE Yep ! I'm only in TBUDL ! The mail adress I use for TBUDL is GE /only/ used for TB-discussion. I usually publish my first account GE which is not located at web.de. BUT the web.de adress is an GE additional adress to my PGP-key which is published on several GE key-servers. Did anyone get the spam who has no PGP-key or whose GE adress is not linked to a PGP-key ? I did not get the spam and am subscribed to all three lists (including tbot). And yes, my address for these three lists is not (yet?) linked to my PGP key. I don't remember though having seen this spam message on any other address, but then I don't even look at spam messages there... Peter -- Peter Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ïÔÞÅÓÔ×Ï × The Bat!
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Thursday, August 31, 2000, ôÉÍ õÈÁÒÅ× wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about ïÔÞÅÓÔ×Ï × The Bat!: ôõ ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, ÄÏÒÏÇÁÑ ÒÁÓÓÙÌËÁ :) It's an english list if you want to discuss it in russian, join [EMAIL PROTECTED] ôõ 1. ëÁË Ó ÐÏÍÏÝØÀ ÍÁËÒÏÓÏ× ×ÙÔÁÝÉÔØ ÏÔÞÅÓÔ×Ï ÉÚ ÁÄÒÅÓÎÏÊ ËÎÉÇÉ? No way. ôõ 2. íÁËÒÏÓÙ %TOLName É %TOFName ÐÏËÁÚÙ×ÁÀÔ ÎÅ ÐÏÌÑ ÁÄÒÅÓÎÏÊ It's a long standing wish. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.45 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: turkish character
Hello Peter, ok, it works :-) Thanks for your help, YC I saw the turkish script in Options/Xlat tables. YC in the "Translation INTO Windows" window YC and "Translation FROM Windows" window I see the Turkish YC character, but i dont know how to use XLat tables or activate PS Make sure you have created your translation table. As Ming-Li stated, PS it is probably enough to select the turkish script, no modification PS needed on the translation tabs. PS For using it, I know of at least two possibilities: PS - in the message editor you can choose one of the installed XLAT PS tables for each new message under "Options/Message encoding" (or PS right-click on the most right field in the status bar) PS - in the account properties on the new message template tab you can PS select your default encoding. PS Peter Best regards, Yalcin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Need direction and a question
Hi All, I need to know if there is a way to extract certain text from a message sent to me. I receive autoresponse from eBay whenever an auction closes. Within that message I need some info for the response and the rest can be thrown away. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Also I'm having a problem using the "Replied Messages" sorting rule. Can someone give me a quick "fer instance"? Thanks, as always, Arnie p.s. Welcome back Ming-Li! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
External processing of TB files?
Is it possible to modify, perhaps extensively, the mail files produced by TB without 'damaging' them in a way that would cause problems in TB? For example, if I run a pgm to remove ads, some headers, etc from TB email files, would TB still be able to use them as if nothing had happened? These would be for the .tbb files only, not the .tbi's (index files?). The binary top header and message headers would not be changed by the processing. If the processing gets more extensive and entire messages are removed, including the binary header, would this still be OK? Thanks, ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: External processing of TB files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ztrader, On 31 August 2000 at 08:17:58 GMT -0700 (which was 16:17 where I live) ztrader wrote and made these points on the subject of "External processing of TB files?": z Is it possible to modify, perhaps extensively, the mail files produced z by TB without 'damaging' them in a way that would cause problems in z TB? I wouldn't have thought it would be an easy task. z For example, if I run a pgm to remove ads, some headers, etc from z TB email files, would TB still be able to use them as if nothing z had happened? Doubtful. z These would be for the .tbb files only, not the .tbi's (index files?). z The binary top header and message headers would not be changed by the z processing. 'Ay, there's the rub'. If you modify the .tbb you would have to remove the .tbi completely because the tbb it refers to no longer matches. z If the processing gets more extensive and entire messages are z removed, including the binary header, would this still be OK? Again - doubtful. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat. TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOa58YTnkJKuSnc2gEQJkMACgw8dExzJePLhSgUwqgCnQdudAjbwAoMGw qQpZqnMWNe0bahIGqUHlO3JJ =lpXp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.
My office network has no SMTP server, and my ISP will not allow me to remotely send mail through their SMTP server. I thought The Bat would allow me to send mail by acting as a SMTP server (or using a remote server?). Can someone help me with this??? -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.
Olá Rrhankins, quinta-feira, 31 de agosto de 2000, você escreveu: Rac My office network has no SMTP server, and my ISP will not allow me to Rac remotely send mail through their SMTP server. I thought The Bat would allow Rac me to send mail by acting as a SMTP server (or using a remote server?). Can Rac someone help me with this??? Try send thru my university SMTP use this: pop3.faesa.br maybe work. []s, Viktor Mota mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.
Olá Rrhankins, quinta-feira, 31 de agosto de 2000, você escreveu: Rac My office network has no SMTP server, and my ISP will not allow me to Rac remotely send mail through their SMTP server. I thought The Bat would allow Rac me to send mail by acting as a SMTP server (or using a remote server?). Can Rac someone help me with this??? Try send thru my university SMTP use this: pop.faesa.br maybe work. Was wrong on last mail!!! now it is correct []s, Viktor Mota mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The ol' catch-22 caught me!
Here's one to be a little wary of: I was trying something a little different and experimental. To try it out I made a filter to run an external program, and placed it on top of the filter stack. It was set to fire off on receipt of any message. Here's the problem. The file wasn't a "standard" executable and apparently could not be run from The Bat! and tossed an error message at me, then casually exited stage left. This didn't happen until my first message came in. I figured Ok, I'll just yank the filter till I figure out the trouble. Here's the BIG problem. It crashed without deleting the file from the server since it never got that far along. I'm set up to check mail on start up. So it starts up checks, crashes. I have about 5-7 seconds in which to work. I'm mousing and keyboard like an addict looking for a fix trying to get in and delete that filter before the crash. As I was getting closer and closer (practice makes perfect) with each try I was finally able to disable the darn thing on the fifth attempt. Anyway - something to beware. Rare though it might be, if you're ever experimenting don't set it up as a catch all filter without testing as a specialty one first. -- ò¸ó Nick [MUA: TB! 1.46 Beta/3] Danger [OS: Win98 4.10 1998] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.
Hi Rrhankins, On Thursday 31/08/2000 at 16:40, you wrote: My office network has no SMTP server, and my ISP will not allow me to remotely send mail through their SMTP server. I thought The Bat would allow me to send mail by acting as a SMTP server (or using a remote server?). Can someone help me with this??? TB doesn't do this, but there's a program called VPOP3 from www.pscs.co.uk which acts as an SMTP server and sends email direct. It's sometimes a problem if you're using a popular ISP though. They usually hand out dynamic IP addresses, which have already been used by other people to spam with. That IP address, when reported, gets into the Realtime Blackhole List (RBL). When you take on that dynamic IP address you get its reputation as well. Most ISPs add a header onto email if the sender IP matches one in the RBL, then many of the more popular email clients say "bleh, that's spam" and throw it away. The point being that if you mail direct, the email is seen as coming from *your* assigned IP address and could be ignored if a spammer on the same ISP was given that address. If you use an SMTP server though, it doesn't happen. The ISP takes responsibility for its reputation. Conclusion: It's possible, but comes with much greater risk of the recipient not seeing the mail. Thank spammers. HTH "Don't touch that IP address! You don't know where it's been!" -- Deryk Lister || ICQ 25869912 || www.deryk.co.uk "... Whatever" -- Squall Leonhart PGP welcomed - you can get the key from my automated link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GetMyPGPKey You may also get the keys from reputable keyservers. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Someone spamming us
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone !
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:27:51 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was 31.08.2000, 02:27 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote:
snip
MDP Messages in the archive show the address of the archive itself - that
MDP to which the archive (which is actually a normal list member) messages
MDP are sent.
This means: someone who is not member of the list can't harvest the e-mail
adresses by just looking into the archive because the "you are subscribed as..."
is changed !?
But what, if that person just harvests our adress out of our PGP-sigantures ?
This would explain why some received this message twice (both lists, signed
msgs), some only once (only one list, signed msgs) and some didn't get any
spam-message at all although member in both lists (no sigs or no key on server).
I don't know whether this is possible. I couldn't manage to verify a message in
the archive ("Found no PGP information in the clipboard") in the browsers
window. I switched to the source code view, highlighted the PGP-signed area and
tried it again: et voilá !
*** PGP Signature Status: bad
*** Signer: Marck D. Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Disabled)
*** Signed: 30.08.00 16:37:33
*** Verified: 31.08.00 18:36:53
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***
Hi ztrader,
On 30 August 2000 at 06:21:47 GMT -0700 (which was 14:21 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "RE checkbox in 'options'?":
JAgt;gt; One has to check Regular Expressions when one is using regular
JAgt;gt; expressions. Check out the help file, it does deal with regular
JAgt;gt; expressions fairly well.
zgt; It has a nice summary of RE's, I agree. The confusion, for me, comes
zgt; from mixing RE chrs with other concepts. For example, the [ ] and |
I admit, this is not very convenient to harvest e-mail adresses, but I'm
no computer specialist ;-). Maybe someone with more experience than me could
check that ??
--
Best regards,
Gerd
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31.08.2000 at 18:22
Using The Bat! Version 1.46 Beta/3
On a bag of Fritos: 'You could be a winner!
No purchase necessary. Details inside'.
(Evidently, the shoplifter special)
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Re: Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Viktor, On 31 August 2000 at 13:16:18 GMT -0300 (which was 17:16 where I live) Viktor Mota wrote and made these points on the subject of "Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.": Rac My office network has no SMTP server, and my ISP will not allow Rac me to remotely send mail through their SMTP server. I thought Rac The Bat would allow me to send mail by acting as a SMTP server Rac (or using a remote server?). Can someone help me with this??? VM Try send thru my university SMTP use this: pop.faesa.br maybe work. VM Was wrong on last mail!!! now it is VM correct This looks like the address of a POP server rather than an SMTP server. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil... TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOa6PnDnkJKuSnc2gEQKSxQCg3RcorHrxR0rDTfePXftZ0zgoZcAAn3LQ cieKDjFtKXbkmHDr0Uplv4V/ =fY/4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The ol' catch-22 caught me!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, On 31 August 2000 at 11:31:57 GMT -0500 (which was 17:31 where I live) Nick Danger wrote and made these points on the subject of "The ol' catch-22 caught me!": ND I'm set up to check mail on start up. So it starts up checks, ND crashes. I have about 5-7 seconds in which to work. There is another way out of that one - pull the network connection and disable the filter at your leisure while TB sucks on thin air. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Headline - Drunken Drivers Paid $1000 TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOa6RkznkJKuSnc2gEQIDTACfR+fWDsEa57/Jw1SJLA0zcGxoEcEAoN1s 5IreyoHcuu2ZSKP92UBM0uSM =8zl+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The ol' catch-22 caught me!
On August 31, 2000, at 10:10:43 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone Wrote: There is another way out of that one - pull the network connection and disable the filter at your leisure while TB sucks on thin air. ROTFLMAO!!! :o) Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.46 Beta 3 | PGP 6.5.8 | Win 98 v4.10 ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ I'm miserable without you, it's like having you here. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Someone spamming us
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gerd, On 31 August 2000 at 18:39:01 GMT +0200 (which was 17:39 where I live) Gerd Ewald wrote and made these points on the subject of "Someone spamming us": MDP Messages in the archive show the address of the archive itself - MDP that to which the archive (which is actually a normal list MDP member) messages are sent. GE This means: someone who is not member of the list can't harvest GE the e-mail adresses by just looking into the archive because the GE "you are subscribed as..." is changed !? Correct - it is unique for each message sent to each subscriber. It is appended to the message at point of dispatch by the list server. GE But what, if that person just harvests our adress out of our GE PGP-sigantures ? snip *** Signer: Marck D. Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Disabled) snip GE I admit, this is not very convenient to harvest e-mail adresses, GE but I'm no computer specialist ;-). Maybe someone with more GE experience than me could check that ?? I'm not going to do the research myself but I must say that this seems to be the most likely source for the harvest that was done. With a PGP SDK a harvester can easily adapt a spider-bot to to a PGP-sig trawl IMHO. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Scientists Door: Gone Fission TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOa6UXTnkJKuSnc2gEQIGaACePGJrRWAC8x32AYIdRiQu+w7l96kAoOXi 2gSKIgTZTk2Zox0VAZo9EivU =zuAV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.
VM Try send thru my university SMTP use this: pop.faesa.br maybe work. VM Was wrong on last mail!!! now it is VM correct MDP This looks like the address of a POP server rather than an SMTP MDP server. Last I heard, many email servers were able to effectively multitask. ;) This address may be POP only, but it couldn't hurt to see if there's an SMTP server running on the same machine, could it? -tom! -- Bah, ridiculous thing. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.
Olá Marck, quinta-feira, 31 de agosto de 2000, você escreveu: MDP On 31 August 2000 at 13:16:18 GMT -0300 (which was 17:16 where I MDP live) Viktor Mota wrote and made these points on the subject MDP of "Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.": Rac My office network has no SMTP server, and my ISP will not allow Rac me to remotely send mail through their SMTP server. I thought Rac The Bat would allow me to send mail by acting as a SMTP server Rac (or using a remote server?). Can someone help me with this??? VM Try send thru my university SMTP use this: pop.faesa.br maybe work. VM Was wrong on last mail!!! now it is VM correct MDP This looks like the address of a POP server rather than an SMTP MDP server. I know!!! You can try, it works :-))) but don't tell to him!! :-) []s, Viktor Mota mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Someone spamming us
GE But what, if that person just harvests our adress out of our PGP-sigantures ? I got one copy of the message, no PGP here. Only on TBUDL. -tom! -- Bah, ridiculous thing. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Someone spamming us
Hello ztrader, On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:50:18 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, August 31, 2000, 7:50:18 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, ztrader wrote: (snip) MDP I *have* received this spam. Only one copy, and I am active on both MDP lists. Hmmm... another beta lister that got the spam. The plot thickens. Did anyone NOT on the beta list get it? I donot think I did but I could check if I know what the subject was of the email... I saw one spam but I thought it was another subscriber sending to the mail list. MDP Any other ideas? If I was a truly dedicated spammerg,I'd subscribe to lots of lists, collect all the replies, and harvest them. Not much one can do about that, though :-(((. ztrader Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The ol' catch-22 caught me!
In Reference to "The ol' catch-22 caught me!" From Marck D. Pearlstone: " M There is another way out of that one - pull the network connection and M disable the filter at your leisure while TB sucks on thin air. True, but then I don't get the chance to show off my twitch skills obtained from those countless hours of playing Quake. ;-) -- ò¸ó Nick [MUA: TB! 1.46 Beta/3] Danger [OS: Win98 4.10 1998] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Someone spamming us
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tom, On 31 August 2000 at 10:48:51 GMT -0700 (which was 18:48 where I live) Tom Plunket wrote and made these points on the subject of "Someone spamming us": GE But what, if that person just harvests our adress out of our GE PGP-sigantures ? TP I got one copy of the message, no PGP here. Only on TBUDL. Strike that theory then. We're back to someone joining the list long-hand just to harvest. There's nothing we can do to prevent that. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOa6jwTnkJKuSnc2gEQId/wCeLKrv4f4v60cNF9pIzvbJfnwCuxwAoMzo dfj7HzaxNlDUQCe6RG02gau0 =qBPt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The ol' catch-22 caught me!
On Thursday, August 31, 2000 18:31:57, Nick Danger wrote: Here's the BIG problem. It crashed without deleting the file from the server since it never got that far along. I'm set up to check mail on start up. So it starts up checks, crashes. I have about 5-7 seconds in which to work. I'm mousing and keyboard like an addict looking for a fix trying to get in and delete that filter before the crash. As I was getting closer and closer (practice makes perfect) with each try I was finally able to disable the darn thing on the fifth attempt. Here's an easier solution: - Start Windows Explorer and open C:\...\TheBat_dir\Account_dir - Rename Account.srx to Account.srk - Start The Bat! and disable "Check mail at startup". - Close The Bat! - Rename Account.srk to Account.srx - Start The Bat! and remove the annoying filter. Arjan -- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Compress?
Hello Marck, I have tried this command line to back up The Bat's registry file. It seems to work but I can not find this file to be able to restore it. Where does it go? I am using The Bat 1.45 with Windows 98. I want to be able to add this registry backup command line to a batch file that copies the whole Bat directory to the "D" partition of my hard drive. This would make everything easy to backup and restore with a desktop icon pointing to this batch file. Pleas let me know if you use a better way of doing this. Thanks to everyone. Monday, August 28, 2000, 6:22:45 PM, you wrote: MDP would need. The rest is held in the system registry in the MDP HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/ key and sub-keys. MDP You can either use Regedit to export the key or use the command prompt MDP or a batch file to backup the registry data with this command: MDP regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT MDP When re-installing, just double-click on the .reg file from Windows MDP Explorer to reload the data into the system registry. MDP - -- MDP Cheers, MDP .\\arck Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Someone spamming us
On Thursday 31 August 2000 Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: GE But what, if that person just harvests our adress out of our GE PGP-sigantures ? I'm not going to do the research myself but I must say that this seems to be the most likely source for the harvest that was done. With a PGP SDK a harvester can easily adapt a spider-bot to to a PGP-sig trawl IMHO. Possibly, except that i) I don't remember ever sending my PGP key, or PGP signed messages to any TB list, ii) none of my PGP keys have ever been associated with anything other than my primary (non-list) email address, and those spams were sent directly to the addresses with which I subscibe to TBUDL/TBBETA. John -- you gave me something that i could touch in a world where i'd had too much something i could feel with my broken hands full of lost ideals but soon i'm returning to you my friend and we'll go where the rivers end in the silver sea and i'll carry you if you carry me -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Compress?
Hello Wayne, On Thursday, August 31, 2000 at 13:17:24 GMT -0700 (which was 1:17 PM where I live) witnesses say Wayne Black typed: Hello Marck, I have tried this command line to back up The Bat's registry file. It seems to work but I can not find this file to be able to restore it. Where does it go? When called from the command line, regedit puts the output file in whatever directory you're working in. If you used the Start\Run feature to run this command line, then there is a good chance that you'll find the tbreg.reg file in your main Windows folder. Alternatively, you could just use Start\Find and search for tbreg.reg . I am using The Bat 1.45 with Windows 98. I want to be able to add this registry backup command line to a batch file that copies the whole Bat directory to the "D" partition of my hard drive. Ok, so create a folder on drive D called TBBackup. I'm going to assume that your TB mail folder structure is under C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\ The batch file would look something like this: @echo off echo --- Begin Backup Process --- C: cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\ start /w xcopy32 mail d:\TBBackup\ /e d: cd \TBBackup start /w regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT echo. echo --- End Backup Process --- exit -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Compress?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Wayne, On 31 August 2000 at 13:17:24 GMT -0700 (which was 21:17 where I live) Wayne Black wrote and made these points on the subject of "Compress?": MDP You can either use Regedit to export the key or use the command prompt MDP or a batch file to backup the registry data with this command: MDP regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT WB I have tried this command line to back up The Bat's registry file. WB It seems to work but I can not find this file to be able to WB restore it. Where does it go? It will go to the DOS current directory. You can be more specific: regedit /e c:\temp\keeptb\tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT ... or specify any drive / path you prefer. WB I am using The Bat 1.45 with Windows 98. I want to be able to add WB this registry backup command line to a batch file that copies the WB whole Bat directory to the "D" partition of my hard drive. So use something like regedit /e d:\backup\keeptb\tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Hotel: "Help!" We need inn-experienced people TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOa7FyznkJKuSnc2gEQLBqgCdG2/BdIr2eoStrkXgLOUX6w4ZZAkAnjCj dZZx4io2RtrBqKJdPDXWIbMB =6dG9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Compress?
On Thursday, August 31, 2000 at 13:46:16 GMT -0700 (which was 1:46 PM where I live) witnesses say I typed: Hello Wayne, snip The batch file would look something like this: @echo off echo --- Begin Backup Process --- C: cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\ start /w xcopy32 mail d:\TBBackup\ /e d: cd \TBBackup start /w regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT echo. echo --- End Backup Process --- exit I should mention that this works even better if you remove "start /w" from start /w xcopy32 mail d:\TBBackup\ /e So the better version would be: @echo off echo --- Begin Backup Process --- C: cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\ xcopy32 mail d:\TBBackup\ /e d: cd \TBBackup start /w regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT echo. echo --- End Backup Process --- exit -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The ol' catch-22 caught me! (add)
On Thursday, August 31, 2000 21:24:04, I wrote: - Start Windows Explorer and open C:\...\TheBat_dir\Account_dir Oops! That should have been: C:\...\TheBat_dir\Mail\Account_dir. Arjan -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB add-ins?
What's involved in building a TB add-in? How does one go about doing it? What is it, exactly, and how does it tie in? Thanks, ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB add-ins?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ztrader, On 31 August 2000 at 14:49:53 GMT -0700 (which was 22:49 where I live) ztrader wrote and made these points on the subject of "TB add-ins?": z What's involved in building a TB add-in? How does one go about doing z it? What is it, exactly, and how does it tie in? Right now, the only add-ins that can be built are purely external applets that (perhaps) operate on message data or configuration files. Version 2 of TB is expected to have both scripting and plug-in technologies. No further information is available. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOa7WGTnkJKuSnc2gEQJD5gCfWfQ/oqxZ8pxZVsDEEPjYqz4WrpoAn37x 7IAjlRxGEmVb5WkinaAWJNJ2 =sXAP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Need direction and a question
On Thursday, August 31, 2000, 7:49:42 AM, Arnie wrote: I need to know if there is a way to extract certain text from a message sent to me. I receive autoresponse from eBay whenever an auction closes. Within that message I need some info for the response and the rest can be thrown away. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Since there's no way to edit a received message in TB, let alone doing it automatically, the only realistic way to do this is to export the message and do it with an editor, then you may import it back or save it as a text file. The whole process (including importing back into TB) could be automated with a better editor, if the part you want to save can be formulized. Also I'm having a problem using the "Replied Messages" sorting rule. Can someone give me a quick "fer instance"? A common misunderstanding is to think of a Replied Message filter as one for your replies. It's not. It's for the messages to which you replied. Example? Well, I don't use it. But for people who regularly purge old mail, it might be useful for them to park those messages so they won't be deleted. p.s. Welcome back Ming-Li! Thanks. :) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Need direction and a question
Hello Ming-Li, On Thursday, August 31, 2000 at 20:33:04 GMT -0700 (which was 8:33 PM where I live) witnesses say Ming-Li typed: It's for the messages to which you replied. Example? This can be useful if you get lots of mail that needs to be replied to. This way you can have the messages moved or coloured when you've dealt with the message appropriately. This isn't something I use either. But for people who regularly purge old mail, it might be useful for them to park those messages so they won't be deleted. That's another good example. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat!
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