Re: Favorites
Hallo Jack, On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:41:40 -0500 GMT (07/09/2000, 23:41 +0800 GMT), Jack LaRosa wrote: JL I recently "upgraded" my OS from Win95 to Win98 and after having done JL so I noticed the "favorites" down-arrow (next to the CREATE A NEW JL MESSAGE button) no longer produced a drop-down list of favorite JL addresses as it used to. Works fine here; but never un-installed and re-installed. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Favorites
Hello Jack LaRosa, On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:41:40 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, September 07, 2000, 16:41:40 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, Jack LaRosa wrote: JL Now, having properly prepared the machine, I re-installed Win98 and ^^^ JL once again, the favorites arrow no longer works. If I click on the JL arrow, the arrow is depressed and remains so until I click on it JL again. At no time will the list of favorites drop down. Checking, JL un-checking and re-checking an address book entry makes no difference. Hmm that would mean that your registry keys for TB! were deleted unless you'd backed them up. The drop downs are stored in the registry. Therefore if you delete your favorites list it won't be able to drop down. Also the blue arrow is add address to address book not favourites. The down arrow shows the history. The favourites are accessed by right clicking on the address bar, also the favourites check box has to be checked in the address book. If you hover over a button the fool tips gives a short description of it. -- Jamie Dainton On Friday, September 08, 2000 at 08:49:44 The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey 665.9238429876 - Number of the Pentium Beast -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Favorites
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:53:00 +0100, Jamie Dainton wrote: JL Now, having properly prepared the machine, I re-installed Win98 and JD ^^^ JL once again, the favorites arrow no longer works. If I click on the JL arrow, the arrow is depressed and remains so until I click on it JL again. At no time will the list of favorites drop down. Checking, JL un-checking and re-checking an address book entry makes no difference. JD Hmm that would mean that your registry keys for TB! were deleted JD unless you'd backed them up. When he uninstalls the upgrade, things are back to normal with TB!. :-/ Doesn't sound like registry key deletions if this is the case. JD The drop downs are stored in the registry. Therefore if you delete JD your favorites list it won't be able to drop down. Seems like a Win95 to 98 upgrade 'spook'. :-) -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "Variables won't; constants aren't. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Favorites
The saddest part of this is that it is another example of why most developers do not use the registry to store anything. The only 'problem' i have had since moving to TB has been the use of the registry. I have sent a couple of messages to the 'bug' email box but have not received one reply. They are probably to busy adding a newsviewer to fix/remove the registry concept. I almost went back to Eudora the other day .. but their newest beta gave me reason to stay with TB until I find something better. G Friday, September 08, 2000, 5:16:08 AM, you wrote: snip JD The drop downs are stored in the registry. Therefore if you delete JD your favorites list it won't be able to drop down. ACM Seems like a Win95 to 98 upgrade 'spook'. :-) -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Favorites
On Friday, September 08, 2000, 6:56:08 AM, David wrote: The saddest part of this is that it is another example of why most developers do not use the registry to store anything. The only 'problem' i have had since moving to TB has been the use of the registry. Though I agree with you to a degree about the use of registry, this is not another example. As I pointed out earlier, the favorites Jack was asking are not stored in the registry. I'm not sure most developers don't use the registry, either. Most of the programs I use do. The concept of a central registry has its merits, too, IMHO, though I do want TB to make less use of it. I have sent a couple of messages to the 'bug' email box but have not received one reply. They are probably to busy adding a newsviewer to fix/remove the registry concept. Well, it's actually not a "bug". And since it's related to the structural design of TB in general, I happen to think it appropriate to be dealt with in v2. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Favorites
On Friday, September 08, 2000, 12:53:00 AM, Jamie wrote: JL Now, having properly prepared the machine, I re-installed Win98 JL and ^^^ JL once again, the favorites arrow no longer works. If I click on the JL arrow, the arrow is depressed and remains so until I click on it JL again. At no time will the list of favorites drop down. Checking, JL un-checking and re-checking an address book entry makes no difference. Hmm that would mean that your registry keys for TB! were deleted unless you'd backed them up. The drop downs are stored in the registry. Therefore if you delete your favorites list it won't be able to drop down. I think you misunderstood what Jack meant. The arrow he was referring to was that beside the "New Message" button on the toolbar in the main window (instead of the message editing window). -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Favorites
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:56:08 -0700, David Tod Sigafoos wrote: DTS The saddest part of this is that it is another example of why most DTS developers do not use the registry to store anything. Actually, my experience is quite the contrary. Most developers seem to use the registry to store stuff. :-) DTS The only 'problem' i have had since moving to TB has been the use DTS of the registry. I haven't had any problems in this regard. I, however, tend to be a lot cleaner than most with my movements and migrations. I avoid MS OS upgrades like the plague. The only time I'll tolerate the concept is if you do a clean install of one and then *immediately* do the upgrade without having installed anything else. I've done this for a couple buddies and their systems are fine and trouble free. DTS I have sent a couple of messages to the 'bug' email box but have DTS not received one reply. They are probably to busy adding a DTS newsviewer to fix/remove the registry concept. But The Bat!'s storing config data in the registry is not a bug. :-) DTS I almost went back to Eudora the other day .. but their newest beta DTS gave me reason to stay with TB until I find something better. G Eudora?!! Yuk. :-) ducking -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "Useless Invention: Solar powered flashlight. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Favorites
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:11:55 +0100, Tony Boom wrote: TB I've just installed Windows ME after using 98se. I ran this little TB utility from a sub folder of TB! and then saved the whole TB! folder TB as is to zip disc. I installed ME put TB back where it was, double TB clicked the .reg file and TB! is just as if it had never been moved. TB No recreation of accounts or folders or anything. There you go. ;-) I do a manual registry export. It doesn't take long at all. TB PS to Allie: Even my filters and address book remained intact this TB time. Good. :-) -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "A man needs a good memory after he has lied. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
NetscapeTB!folderdefault template
Hello Bats!, I tried to make the subject as short as possible but it wound up being somewhat cryptic. Here's what it means: I just found out that if I'm in Netscape and I click on a mailto, TB! launches automagically just as I want it to, however...the new message screen that appears is the *folder* template from whichever folder I had open last time I closed TB! Not only that, but the Netscape mailto address appears first on the address line with the last-open-folder addressee following it. I expected to see a completely blank message screen. What ridiculously simple setting am I overlooking? Will I have to remember to select my mailbox folder every time I close TB!? I haven't tried that so I don't even know if it works. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mail to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alabama, USA Message created 6:32:48 PM (GMT-6) on Friday, September 08, 2000 = Using The Bat! ver. 1.45 (reg) under Windows 98 ver.4.10 build Service Pack A = -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Favorites
Hello Bats!, Thanks to all who replied regarding this problem. Since it isn't a major annoyance I'll probably just live with it (or without it) and wait for the next TB! upgrade. Maybe that'll have some effect on it. -- Best regards, Jack LaRosa mail to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alabama, USA Message created 7:18:17 PM (GMT-6) on Friday, September 08, 2000 = Using The Bat! ver. 1.45 (reg) under Windows 98 ver.4.10 build Service Pack A = -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Favorites
Hello Tony, On Friday, September 08, 2000 at 18:11:55 GMT +0100 (which was 10:11 AM where I live) witnesses say Tony Boom typed: This message: 08/09/2000 17:51 GMT. A reminder of what David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 08 September 2000 at 06:56:08 GMT -0700 DTS The saddest part of this is that it is another example of why most DTS developers do not use the registry to store anything Hello David, I've got a little utility that saves every reg entry needed for the reinstallation of TB! I can't remember who sent it but it was someone on this list. I can't remember who the originator was but I am sure he would not mind if I made it available to this list once again. It's just a simple but very effective batch file but there is no mention of the author in it. I had written and posted a batch file several moons ago. Since yours didn't come through, I'm posting the "source code" here. Just cut and paste it into a file called TBbackup.bat and put that file in your TB folder (or where ever you want the backups to be stored.) Also note that this will only backup the current Windows Profile's registry settings. For other profiles, you will need to run this while logged into those profiles. Remember, different profiles mean this utility needs to be run in different folders for each Windows profile. Enjoy. Begin Backup Batch file @echo off rem Written by Januk Aggarwal cls echo Welcome to your The Bat! Registry Backup program. echo. echo ___ echo * * echo *1. Back up my registry NOW!! * echo *2. Don't you dare! Get me outta here! * echo * * echo *___* echo. choice /c:12 if errorlevel 2 goto end if errorlevel 1 goto begin :begin echo. echo Good choice, I'm just checking for previous backup attempts. echo. echo. if not exist TBbckup2.reg goto continue echo Your previous backup is being stored in TBbckup2.reg echo. if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg :continue if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!" echo. if not exist TBbckup1.reg echo Error! Something went wrong. Backup not successful. if exist TBbckup1.reg echo Success! Your registry entries for The Bat! are backed up! echo. :end echo. echo Thank you for using this backup utility. echo. exit End Backup Batch file -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NetscapeTB!folderdefault template
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jack, On 09 September 2000 at 18:49:12 GMT -0500 (which was 00:49 where I live) Jack LaRosa wrote and made these points on the subject of "NetscapeTB!folderdefault template": JL ...the new message screen that appears is the *folder* template JL from whichever folder I had open last time I closed TB! ... JL ... What ridiculously simple setting am I overlooking? You're not, unfortunately. JL Will I have to remember to select my mailbox folder every time I JL close TB!? I haven't tried that so I don't even know if it works. When I discovered these and other tragic side effects of relying on folder templates, I spent a couple of days ripping out every last one of them and switching to use *only* account default and Address Book templates. IMHO this was a sound investment of time and effort. AFAIAC it is the recipient that commands the format of an outgoing message rather than whichever folder last had the focus. Not what you wanted to hear, I expect :-(. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Sign on an electrician's truck: Let us remove your shorts TB! v1.46 Beta/5 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBObmZcjnkJKuSnc2gEQKn5gCcCUB7VvAGAdHs2sVMCqfh6v7oQooAnRsH EnrsPoQY3H5k1KmjlwvK+tNG =trZN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Favorites
Hallo Januk, On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:31:01 -0700 GMT (09/09/2000, 09:31 +0800 GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: I've got a little utility that saves every reg entry needed for the reinstallation of TB! I can't remember who sent it but it was someone on this list. JA I had written and posted a batch file several moons ago. I also uploaded your batch file to the "files" section of TBOT. Anybody can go to www.egroups.com, log in to "tbot", look for the "files" section, and download it from there. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org