Re: Panic sets in: could this be???

[Avenarius]

A Bat-fellow, Kiyan Azarbar,
wrote on Tuesday, November 07, 2000 at 01:48:46 (GMT -0500), 
which was 7:48 a.m. in Bratislava --

KA> I just noticed something strange that led me to investigate some
KA> things. What I uncovered is unbelievable.

I uncovered the same things you did.  8-)))  After importing several
thousand messages from Outlook Express to The Bat!, I noticed that in
*some* folders, the last two letters of each post were snipped.

For instance, old archived posts from onelist.com maillists instead of
ending with

www.onelist.com

ended

www.onelist.c

My signature, Alex., came out as "Ale". And I used to correspond with
a woman whose nickname is "Cattleya" (that's an orchid), and her
signature in The Bat now reads "Cattle"!  8-)))

So I deleted all the imported messages and imported them all over
again. Once more, in those same folders as previously, the final two
letters of each post were snipped. But the great majority of folders
(let's say, 45 out of 50) were imported correctly from OE. (And I did
compress all folders in OE before exporting them.)

Finally I decided that this is a minor problem for me to get upset
about. Life goes on.  8-))  I wish, instead, that RITlabs would
finally make those damn customized window frame positions in the Bat's
main window stick! I swear every single day about this horrible
embarrassing glitch in The Bat. But I don't regret having paid $ 35.

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Alex. of Slovakia
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Re: Mailing list?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello syv,

On  Tue, 7 Nov 2000  at  20:54:17 GMT -0800 (which was 8:54 PM
where I live) witnesses say syv typed:

> The macros should do it. I just want the name and the email address.

Ok, I'll be more specific.  What macros are you using?  It sounds like
a template problem.  TB *can't* and will *not* generate a different
message for each recipient in a list.  One message addressed a group
will be sent exactly as it is seen to *everyone* on that list.  If you
post the macros you are using (not the personal part of the template),
we can help clear this up.  I have a feeling you are trying to use
some fancy %To macro that just won't work as you intended.  But if you
post part of the template, maybe we can rule out that possibility, or
find you a solution that will work as intended.

> 1. I created a group: Test
> 2. Entered 4 different users [I am neither of them].

Ok, that sounds fine.  Did your other recipients receive duplicates
too?  How many copies of the message are in your Sent folder?  Do you
have any outgoing filters set up on this account?

> 3. Sent the message to myself with the list  in the BCC.

How did you address it to yourself?  Did you use the address book or
did you manually enter your address?  If you used the address book, is
it possible you have multiple addresses listed in your entry?

> 4. I received 4 messages addressed to myself.

Ok, from what you've posted, it sounds like a template problem or a
mail server problem.  But we do need more details before much
assistance can be provided.  Are the messages *identical*?  IOW, are
there any differences in the RFC-822 headers? (View -> RFC-822 Headers)

> 5. The message going to the list twice is not related, it was a
> different mail server.

Well, I get duplicate messages on this list every now and then.  It
seems to be random, but given the nature of your question, it was
worth exploring.

Please post as much information as you can regarding this problem.  I
can't help you if I don't know how you have things configured.
Obviously, edit the information so you're not posting personal info.
But at the same time, don't block out all information.

For example:

===Begin Template===
%Clear
Hi %BCCLIST,



Have fun,


%Subject="[List] %Subj"
%To="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
and so on
===End Template===

As you can see, the above example tells you nothing about me, but
it does show enough to see that there is a %To macro that could be
worth investigating.

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Re[2]: Mailing list?

[syv]

Hello Januk,

Tuesday, November 07, 2000, 7:50:11 PM, you wrote:

JA> Hello syv,

JA> On  Mon, 6 Nov 2000  at  13:46:19 GMT -0800 (which was 1:46 PM
JA> where I live) witnesses say syv typed:

>>   I want to send an indivdualized copy to each member of the group. It
>>   is individualized by each person name from the macros.

JA> How exactly are you trying to do this?  As far as I know, TB itself
JA> can not handle mail merges...  About the only way I know of doing even
JA> remotely close to what you're suggesting is to create a template in an
JA> external file, then use a batch file and command line parameters to
JA> move through the various recipients.  It is hardly an elegant
JA> solution, but it is about all I can think of with the current
JA> implementation.

The macros should do it. I just want the name and the email address.

>>   I did a test. I sent it to myself with the group LIST
>>in the BCC. It sent 4 copies to myself.

JA> Could you please provide more information?  How many times are you
JA> entered into the group?  Did your mail server have a hiccup, or do you
JA> get 4 copies every time?  Does your AB entry for yourself have
JA> multiple addresses listed?  What sort of macros are you using in your
JA> template?  Your message to the list came through to me twice, could
JA> that be related?  Perhaps something is wrong with your outgoing SMTP
JA> server?

1. I created a group: Test
2. Entered 4 different users [I am neither of them].
3. Sent the message to myself with the list  in the BCC.
4. I received 4 messages addressed to myself.
5. The message going to the list twice is not related, it was a
different mail server.

Thanks

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Re: Mailing list?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello syv,

On  Mon, 6 Nov 2000  at  13:46:19 GMT -0800 (which was 1:46 PM
where I live) witnesses say syv typed:

>   I want to send an indivdualized copy to each member of the group. It
>   is individualized by each person name from the macros.

How exactly are you trying to do this?  As far as I know, TB itself
can not handle mail merges...  About the only way I know of doing even
remotely close to what you're suggesting is to create a template in an
external file, then use a batch file and command line parameters to
move through the various recipients.  It is hardly an elegant
solution, but it is about all I can think of with the current
implementation.

>   I did a test. I sent it to myself with the group LIST
>in the BCC. It sent 4 copies to myself.

Could you please provide more information?  How many times are you
entered into the group?  Did your mail server have a hiccup, or do you
get 4 copies every time?  Does your AB entry for yourself have
multiple addresses listed?  What sort of macros are you using in your
template?  Your message to the list came through to me twice, could
that be related?  Perhaps something is wrong with your outgoing SMTP
server?

>   What am I doing wrong?

I don't know.  There is too much information missing to tell for sure.
Please post more so we can help you get some idea of what's going
wrong.


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Re: Panic sets in: could this be???

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Kiyan,

On  Tue, 7 Nov 2000  at  13:27:46 GMT -0500 (which was 10:27 AM
where I live) witnesses say Kiyan Azarbar typed:

ML>> I certainly have no clue as to what happened. I would suggest
ML>> creating a new account in TB for that same IMAP4 account. Don't copy
ML>> anything from the old account. Set up everything by hand instead.
ML>> Then see if the same problem occurs when fetching mail from this new
ML>> account.

> Well, I tried the new account thing and it didn't work. Then in the dispatcher I
> noticed that a lot of the dates are totally wrong. I retrieve the message in the
> dispatcher and it's missing the last two chars, but I check the headers and the
> dates for received (on the server) are fine. But for some reason the dates in
> the dispatcher are from 1994 or 1995.. at least a good number of them.. This
> may be somehow related.

I can't really help you much, but for interest sake, is this the only
account accessing an IMAP account from that particular server?  I'm
thinking that maybe your IMAP server isn't storing the messages in a
completely compliant way.  What happens if you set up this TB account
to access a different IMAP server, is everything ok?

Good luck.

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Re: European Coffee Machine Will Send Its Own E-Mail

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Stanislav,

On 08 November 2000 at 03:09:39 GMT +0300 (which was 00:09 where I
live) Stanislav Polozov wrote and made these points:

SP>   http://www.mailutilities.com/index.html?nId=54

FYI the article mentions the Cambridge University "Coffee Pot on the
web" and refers to it as the first Web Cam. Its true title is the
"Trojan Room Coffee Machine". It's still up there and you can see it
here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/coffee/coffee.html.

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European Coffee Machine Will Send Its Own E-Mail

[Stanislav Polozov]

Hello TB users,

  http://www.mailutilities.com/index.html?nId=54
  
  :)

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Re: Digest (11/08/2000 00:35) Special Issue (#2000-499)

[Clearwater Landscapes]

Hi BatListers,

Once or twice a day, my Receiving Mail function "sticks" on
getting new messages...the dialog box appears and the bat flies
indefinitely, but nothing else happens. Cancelling out and then
retrying will download the messages, but causes the next mail
check to re-download all messages on server (saved there for two
days). Any clues to solve this behavior? Thanks for your help.

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Re[2]: Panic sets in: could this be???

[Kiyan Azarbar]

At 9:29:06 AM on Tuesday, November 07, 2000, Ming-Li wrote:

[...] 

>> It only appears to be with this account. All the other ones are
>> fine.

ML> I certainly have no clue as to what happened. I would suggest
ML> creating a new account in TB for that same IMAP4 account. Don't copy
ML> anything from the old account. Set up everything by hand instead.
ML> Then see if the same problem occurs when fetching mail from this new
ML> account.

Well, I tried the new account thing and it didn't work. Then in the dispatcher I
noticed that a lot of the dates are totally wrong. I retrieve the message in the
dispatcher and it's missing the last two chars, but I check the headers and the
dates for received (on the server) are fine. But for some reason the dates in
the dispatcher are from 1994 or 1995.. at least a good number of them.. This
may be somehow related.

-- 
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M.A. Linguistics,
University of Ottawa

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Re[2]: Panic sets in: could this be???

[Kiyan Azarbar]

At 9:29:06 AM on Tuesday, November 07, 2000, Ming-Li wrote:

ML> On Monday, November 06, 2000, 10:48:46 PM, Kiyan wrote:

>> I just noticed something strange that led me to investigate some things. What I
>> uncovered is unbelievable.

ML> Indeed, it's the weirdest problem I've ever heard of on the list.

I thought it would be, which is unfortunate because unless the developers hear
about it and think of what it could be, I'm probably lost.

>> It only appears to be with this account. All the other ones are
>> fine.

ML> I certainly have no clue as to what happened. I would suggest
ML> creating a new account in TB for that same IMAP4 account. Don't copy
ML> anything from the old account. Set up everything by hand instead.
ML> Then see if the same problem occurs when fetching mail from this new
ML> account.

I did as you said, and the problem occurs exactly the same. Last two characters
are always lost. it makes no sense. No filters set up on the new account
obviously.

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M.A. Linguistics,
University of Ottawa

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Re[2]: filter - if read & color coded move

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hi A. Curtis,

  On Tuesday, November 07, 2000 @ 09:40:45 -0500 you
  wrote the following in regards to filter - if read
  & color coded move:

A. Curtis> [...] You can create a filter who's search string is
A. Curtis> 'e' and location 'Kludges', meaning that it will match *any* message
A. Curtis> based on a string search. The next thing to do is go to the advanced tab
A. Curtis> in the filter rule configuration and enable 'Message is associated with
A.  Curtis>  a  colour  group'  and select the 'ToDo' colour
A. Curtis> group [...]

  Thank you. This msg to you will be the first test.
  I  put  this  filter  at  the  bottom  of  my read
  filters. I'll let you know what happens.

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Ridgefield, CT USA
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Mailing list?

[syv]

Hello TBUDL,

  I am trying to send a message to a group.
  I want to send an indivdualized copy to each member of the group. It
  is individualized by each person name from the macros.

  I did a test. I sent it to myself with the group LIST
   in the BCC. It sent 4 copies to myself.

  What am I doing wrong?

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Re: setting TB! to text view

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Ming-Li,

On 07 November 2000 at 07:24:52 GMT -0800 (which was 15:24 where I
live) Ming-Li wrote and made these points:

>> No, because it means rewriting all of the clients out there that
>> already know of the '-- ' convention and make use of it. Many of
>> them implement PGP differently and don't need to have the
>> hoop-jumping macros we have to use in TB.

ML> Marck, you got me curious. How do they implement PGP differently
ML> to avoid this.

I only have anecdotal evidence that other PGP integrations remove the
PGP signing envelope and '- ' quoting for storage purposes. I can't
quote which clients do this.

ML> It surely sounds like a good idea for TB to follow suit. Any
ML> downside to their approach?

Only that AFAIAC it compromises the validity of the sent message
defeating the evidential aspects of storing signed messages.

ML> The hoop-jumping macros are nice for learning RE, but are
ML> obviously too daunting to average users. :(

Agreed.

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A Command for Saving Memos

[Douglas Hinds]

Hello follow TBUDL members,

The memo is opened and closed using shift+ctrl+I. But is there a
command for saving memos or do I have to use the mouse?

This was asked before with no answer I saw. Thanks in advance
(anyway).

Douglas Hinds

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Re: MAPI: logon problem

[Ming-Li]

On Sunday, November 05, 2000, 10:36:08 AM, Jean-Luc wrote:

> "MAPI error: there was no default logon, and the user failed
> to log on successfully when the logon dialog box was
> displayed"

Do you have more than one account in TB? Pick one as your default
mailto account by checking an option in account properties. See if
that help. TB's MAPI support doesn't work with some applications
(most notably some MS applications), so please specify what
application you're using next time.

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Re: setting TB! to text view

[Ming-Li]

On Monday, November 06, 2000, 4:25:43 PM, Marck wrote:

> No, because it means rewriting all of the clients out there that
> already know of the '-- ' convention and make use of it. Many of
> them implement PGP differently and don't need to have the
> hoop-jumping macros we have to use in TB.

Marck, you got me curious. How do they implement PGP differently to
avoid this. It surely sounds like a good idea for TB to follow suit.
Any downside to their approach? The hoop-jumping macros are nice for
learning RE, but are obviously too daunting to average users. :(

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Re: filter - if read & color coded move

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:11:20 -0500, Jan Rifkinson wrote these
comments about 'filter - if read & color coded move':

JR> In my group colors, I have one labeled "ToDo"

JR> I'd like to automatically move msgs read in any inbox folder that
JR> are marked with the ToDo color to a ToDo folder.

JR> Possible?

Hmmm. Actually it is. :-) You can create a filter who's search string is
'e' and location 'Kludges', meaning that it will match *any* message
based on a string search. The next thing to do is go to the advanced tab
in the filter rule configuration and enable 'Message is associated with
a colour group' and select the 'ToDo' colour group from the drop down
list. That should restrict the filtering to only messages associated with
the colour group.

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Re: Panic sets in: could this be???

[Ming-Li]

On Monday, November 06, 2000, 10:48:46 PM, Kiyan wrote:

> I just noticed something strange that led me to investigate some things. What I
> uncovered is unbelievable.

Indeed, it's the weirdest problem I've ever heard of on the list.

> It only appears to be with this account. All the other ones are
> fine.

I certainly have no clue as to what happened. I would suggest
creating a new account in TB for that same IMAP4 account. Don't copy
anything from the old account. Set up everything by hand instead.
Then see if the same problem occurs when fetching mail from this new
account.

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filter - if read & color coded move

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hello BatListers,

 I've  been trying to noodle thru a filter which I'm not
 sure is possible. Here's the scenario:

 In my group colors, I have one labeled "ToDo"

 I'd  like  to automatically move msgs read in any inbox
 folder  that  are  marked with the ToDo color to a ToDo
 folder.

 Possible? Any thoughts? TIA.

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Re: Bug in PGP handling of The Bat!

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On 07 November, 2000, 8:24 AM, I saw Juergen's comments made on
 Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:21:20 +0900, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth:

JS> This is interesting, I didn't thought about that. But I am so
JS> suspicious that I like to see it encrypted before I click the 'send'
JS> button...I don't want to send a businessplan unencrypted to a
JS> Hotmail account and give my good ideas Microsoft for free :)

JS> I would like to have a button 'encrypt and send' which shows first
JS> the encryption as optical feedback and then sends it.

JS> Anyway, thanks for the hints!

I know what you mean :-), but for what it's worth, I've been using this
auto-encryption feature for a long time and it works without fail.

However, and a big 'however' at at that  if you read encrypted mail
using PGP Tray's viewer, and then reply by copy and pasting the viewer
contents in the reply message, you'll definitely have to encrypt the
reply yourself. You may then prefer this method:

Place the cursor in the encrypted message body with PGP tray (and it's
hot-key feature) running.

Hit  and this will display the decrypted message in a
separate viewer. Copy the desired text from it to the clipboard and then
reply to the encrypted message pasting the copied text as a quote. You
can then manually encrypt the message, as you prefer, when finished.

Note that you can avoid quoting any encrypted text by hitting
 for the reply or holding down  while hitting
the reply toolbar button.

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Re[2]: Bug in PGP handling of The Bat!

[Juergen Specht]

ACM> Also, if you reply to the decrypted version of a message, it will be
ACM> automatically encrypted upon sending. TB! appends '(PGP Decrypted)' to
ACM> the subject of the decrypted version and this is how it knows to encrypt
ACM> the message automatically. You therefore shouldn't have to be encrypting
ACM> and signing manually in this situation. You'll actually be encrypting
ACM> twice.
This is interesting, I didn't thought about that. But I am so
suspicious that I like to see it encrypted before I click the 'send'
button...I don't want to send a businessplan unencrypted to a Hotmail
account and give my good ideas Microsoft for free :)

I would like to have a button 'encrypt and send' which shows first the
encryption as optical feedback and then sends it.

Anyway, thanks for the hints!

Juergen



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Re[2]: setting TB! to text view

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hi Tony,

  On Monday, November 06, 2000 @ 22:58:23 +, you
  wrote  the  following  about  "setting TB! to text
  view"


Tony> [...] The reason that PGP knows what -- is, is because
Tony> it is the standard way of doing it. [...]

  I learn something new on this list every day.

  Thanks.

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Re: sort of urgent: how to set message flags to UNREAD before IMAP download

[tracer]

Hello Kiyan Azarbar,
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 04:27:29 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, November 06, 2000, 4:27:29 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Kiyan Azarbar wrote:


> I just came across this problem today, and it's a rather big one for me. I
> checked my mail by telnetting in and using mutt because I was not at home. I had
> a lot of TBUDL and other list mail; once I got home, I fired up The Bat! Some
> list messages came through fine and filtered, but only the ones that were
> received AFTER I had viewed some of them online. The ones I had quickly read
> were marked as read by the mail client (mutt, or whatever, pine, elm, many
> things probably do the same). Hence TB didn't download them. I had to go into
> the dispatcher and manually select them, but obviously I only selected a basic
> range, and ended up with a lot of duplicate messages (the ones I downloaded ok
> when I got home, I re-downloaded with dispatcher to be sure I didn't miss any)

> This is terrible are there any solutions? I can think of some kludges:

> 1) If I ever access my mail from somewhere else, I have to be sure to set it to
> be "unread". Not sure if I can actually do this, I think you can in Outlook
> Express but maybe it's not really an IMAP-acceptable version of "unread." I
> don't know how to do in in console programs, maybe I should look into it.

Even if you read the same box with the bat multiple times, it KNOWS
mail has already been read. Ie doesnt download it twice if left on
server.
I am having to track several mailboxes for customers which arent
around to read their own mail so I leave on the server, but I only get
the NEW mail, not the stuff already read so to me either the bat needs
an option to read ANY mail in the mailbox, even if already read
before, or you need to change tag to unread (no idea how to do that)
or your firest reading program shouldnt tag files as read.

However if using telnet to go in for mailreading why donot you just
grab the whole mailbox and take it to the PC to read??
I mean you likely can import the mailbox in an email program on your
system and then the server shouldnt know what you have done.


> 2) Is there some way to "remove duplicate messages in this folder" ? I think I
> came across one once but forgot to make note, and now I can't find/remember it.

under folders, kill dupes in all folders, works great be be aware it
keeps the most recent one of a dupe and any read and deleted mails
will obviously not be detected as a dupe.

> Thanks.



Best regards,
 
tracer


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Re: Trying to unsubscribe

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:04:47 +, Jamie Dainton graced us with
these comments:

IG>> I've sent two messages to the unsubscribe address
IG>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], but without success. Could you remove
IG>> me from the list, please?

JD> Mark: Are you sure we're not allowed to flame these people? It's hard
JD> to resist. Must flame, must launch up USENET and IRC. Can not resist.

We usually handle this sort of thing off-list so as to avoid creating a
thread off the inappropriately posted message as is happening now.

JD> Why did you send it to the entire list. I hope one day you read
JD> the archives and see your mistake preserved to all eternity. 

This likely falls on deaf ears and had no effect whatsoever. :-) It's
far more practical and less time consuming to simply hit the delete key
and move on.

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Re: Bug in PGP handling of The Bat!

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On 07 November, 2000, 7:14 AM, I saw Juergen's comments made on
 Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:23:52 +0900, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth:

JS> I found a reproduceable bug in 1.47 Halloween Edition:

JS> If I get a PGP encrypted mail and decrypt it, TB creates a new
JS> decrypted copy of the message. But if I reply to THIS decrypted
JS> mail with an encrypted text (Menu: Encrypt Entire Text or
JS> Sign & Encrypt Entire Text) and try to send it, I get an error message:

JS> Access Violation at address 0050415E. Read of address 0008.

JS> This error is reproduceable all the time. The reply to the 'original'
JS> (encrypted) mail is never a problem.

JS> I work with Win2000SP1 and PGP 6.5.8.

JS> Can somebody confirm this?

I can't reproduce the problem here after doing what you describe, though
you should still report it.

Also, if you reply to the decrypted version of a message, it will be
automatically encrypted upon sending. TB! appends '(PGP Decrypted)' to
the subject of the decrypted version and this is how it knows to encrypt
the message automatically. You therefore shouldn't have to be encrypting
and signing manually in this situation. You'll actually be encrypting
twice.

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Re: Bug in PGP handling of The Bat!

[Karin Spaink]

On 07-11-2000 at 07:23, Juergen Specht kindly wrote:

> I found a reproduceable bug in 1.47 Halloween Edition:
> If I get a PGP encrypted mail and decrypt it, TB creates a new
> decrypted copy of the message. But if I reply to THIS decrypted
> mail with an encrypted text (Menu: Encrypt Entire Text or
> Sign & Encrypt Entire Text) and try to send it, I get an error message:
> Access Violation at address 0050415E. Read of address 0008.
> This error is reproduceable all the time. The reply to the 'original'
> (encrypted) mail is never a problem.
> I work with Win2000SP1 and PGP 6.5.8.

> Can somebody confirm this?

Nope. It works just fine on my machine (WinNT server, SP
6a, TB! 1.47, PGP 6.5.2).



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Re: Trying to unsubscribe

[Jamie Dainton]

Hello Ian Gore,
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:57:41 + GMT your local time,
which was Monday, November 06, 2000, 20:57:41 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,

Ian Gore wrote:

IG> I've sent two messages to the unsubscribe address
IG> [EMAIL PROTECTED], but without success. Could you remove
IG> me from the list, please?

Mark: Are you sure we're not allowed to flame these people? It's hard
to resist. Must flame, must launch up USENET and IRC. Can not resist.

Why did you send it to the entire list. I hope one day you read
the archives and see your mistake preserved to all eternity. 

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