Re[2]: message preview
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, Thursday, January 18, 2001, 10:23:50 PM, you wrote: MDP FYI - the bad wrapping above is caused by allowing PGP to reformat the MDP message when signing. For the best results, turn off wrapping in the MDP PGP preferences when using PGP with TB. Noted and done - thanks - -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmgMX0qL65Xj7aHMEQKjBACdEYxZccuZ4gbwlX3z2fxl8mIhBRMAoL5p h75uW2VRT/h3LXcaluEQU1fS =9lwl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PLEASE MAKE NEXT BUILD DO THIS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi solid, On 18 January 2001 at 06:38:02 +0700 (which was 23:38 where I live) solid snake wrote and made these points: Mark click to refuse any more mail from the offender very easy - ss what you mean ? Outlook Express has an "easy" button to quickly create a "kill filter" for a specific sender. If you get a mail from a certain source and you don't want to *see* any more mail from them (you'll still receive it), press the button and OE creates a filter automatically. I think that this is not a "good" thing. Spam seldom comes from the same address twice these days. It is better far to report the spam and have it stopped at source so that you no longer *receive* messages from that *organisation* (whatever address they might want to use). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmgO2jnkJKuSnc2gEQIOlACfXWiE1JtC2YSaiDWDOI+DIDPaU9sAoK1H zNdNdgugXyJX0FYKYRvQfwhS =IN5M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Random greetings, how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bat! people! I have noticed that some people have different greetings for different mail, or rahter varying "on date/time someone wrote:". How do you do that? Regexps? QTs? Just curious. - -- /Krister email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Icq: 902032 Obtain my pgp keys by sending a mail to this address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Send_pgp_keys Using The Bat 1.49 under Windows 98, V4.10, build A Time is a great teacher, but it kills all its pupils. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmgJqTg5SXqDEzkLEQIgPACeJlxu4Yz5rg8+pBCo6gY2TzLRQGgAnA9k dgIR273V2q6DSFcvvX2Lm1ms =aGZa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Random greetings, how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Krister, On 19 January 2001 at 11:32:13 +0100 (which was 10:32 where I live) Krister Ekstrom wrote and made these points: KE I have noticed that some people have different greetings for different KE mail, or rahter varying "on date/time someone wrote:". How do you do KE that? Regexps? QTs? Using something like %COOKIE="d:\path\Greetings.txt" constructs is "how to", but with a word of warning that TB can get very confused when you use multiple sources. I'm about to file a repeat bug report, which will detail the problem. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmgc3DnkJKuSnc2gEQLEmQCgjLn/Ippsb1l4OwbVCJZ/dq6obD8An0KM RKr5d+vnSWjftmUn358EXLJ9 =lxoZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.49c Serial Number 14F4B4B2 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 and would like to report a bug The bug description: This one's been around for a long, long time and I keep tripping over it. There's no work around for it either, so it's a real pain! When using multiple %COOKIE sources within a template TB gets confused about which source to use. Steps to reproduce the bug: Define some QTs. First, a random greeting one containing a line like this: %COOKIE="C:\My Documents\Bat Mail\Templates\greetz.txt" Now set up a Random "said" source QT like this: On %ODOW %ODATESHORT %OFROMADDR %COOKIE="C:\My Documents\Bat Mail\Templates\Quote.txt" Now put these together in a reply template. It works. Now go back to the "said" QT and change it to say %WRAPPED='On %ODOW %ODATESHORT %OFROMADDR %COOKIE="C:\My Documents\Bat Mail\Templates\Quote.txt"' Try the reply again. This time the "Quote.txt" cookie gets the result of the "greetz.txt" cookie statement, so it appears twice. Regards, Marck D. Pearlstone -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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PGP, WHat it is ?
Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Jumat, 6:40 PM What is PGP ? Why all of you use PGP, that make view so bad..! And make Email so big, Why all of you use it ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmgJqTg5SXqDEzkLEQIgPACeJlxu4Yz5rg8+pBCo6gY2TzLRQGgAnA9k dgIR273V2q6DSFcvvX2Lm1ms =aGZa -END PGP SIGNATURE- WHy you have all that string, that boring string..! ~~ "Squeal Boy, squeal" solid snake mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP, WHat it is ?
Hi solid, On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:06:35 +0700GMT (19/01/2001, 20:06 +0800GMT), solid snake wrote: ss What is PGP ? It's "pretty good privacy". Check out www.pgp.com or the international site at www.pgpi.com ss Why all of you use it ? Those that do, "sign" the message. It's a digital signature, so you can be sure nobody else wrote and sent that message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Co-Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
newbie: Writing HTML messages?
Hello TBUDL, I am just asking, is it possible to compose HTML messages in The Bat? Thank you in advance. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Folder New message count problem
Hey TBUDL, Is any one else having a problem with the folder view displaying the wrong "New" message count? For example, I am reading mail in my TBUDL folder and the folder view says "TBUDL 1(1) 177(76)" which means 1 unread in TBUDL, (1) unread in a subfolder of TBUDL, etc. Now this would be fine, but I am searching manually for a bold message (unread) and using Ctrl+] to jump to the next unread message - no luck. I select another folder, then back to TBUDL, and it corrects, so not a big problem, but it is frequent enough that it is a pain... I really only notice it on the last message (why would I manually count messages when TB does it so nicely for me?). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! v1.49 | Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
Hello TB! Listers, I am re-posting a msg I sent a couple of days ago in the hopes that one of you very helpful knowledgeable list members will take a stab @ solving a continuing problem. (or is this something that belongs on the new list?) I know I've included a lot of info but I didn't know how else to illustrate it. Many Thanks. JR -|| original message ||- On Wednesday, January 17, 2001 22:57:10 -0800 GMT you wrote the following in regards to TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp: JR so then my macro statement should look like this? JR %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to %QINCLUDE='"bracket"':' JR (all on a single line) Januk Um, change that last %QInclude to: Januk ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'' [excellent explanation snipped] I think I've included all the various directions but let me show you what the output of the template is: - TEMPLATE OUTPUT BEGINS - Hello Gretchen, (Bouvier AB entry) On Tuesday, January 16, 2001 23:41:09 -0500, you wrote the following in regards to 'touchy stomachnot': =Gretchen'Gretchen We have had 7 Bouviers and have never had one with a touchy stomach. I feed Gretchen a home made diet - -- signbouv" - TEMPLATE OUTPUT ENDS - And this is the template I used for this msg which is from a Bouvier eGroups list, i.e. includes [bouvier] in subject line. - TEMPLATE USED BEGINS - Hello %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME="%OFROMFNAME"', (Bouvier AB entry) %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'': %Quotestyle='=%ABofromHANDLE="%ABofromFIRSTNAME=""%OFROMFNAME""'%QUOTES %CURSOR - -- %QINCLUDE="signbouv" %ISSIGNATURE - TEMPLATE USED ENDS - The "(Bouvier AB entry)" is there so I can keep track of where the template is coming from as I refine my templates, etc. Otherwise: 1. The Intro line is not wrapped correctly (or at least the way I'd like it to appear (either justified left or justified would be fine but not an indented paragraph) 2. The quotation marks are now around the subject minus the brackets (thanks to you Allie) 3. The first line of the quoted text, i.e. %QUOTESTYLE output is a bit off. 4. The spacing between the intro line the %QUOTE area is compressed Many thanks for your continued help in this matter. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: newbie: Writing HTML messages?
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Friday, January 19, 2001, Lija wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about newbie: Writing HTML messages?: L I am just asking, is it possible to compose HTML messages in The Bat? No. You can attach HTML documents. You can export message with HTML attachment,replacecontent-type from multipart/mixed to multipart/alternative, import message back and send it. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.49 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[6]: Thought on TB Help Files
Hello, I seem to have caused some confusion in this thread :-) ;-) I hat got the impression that the project, Florian was announcing on thebat.de on Jan 6th was almost exactly what Tim had proposed for TBUDL. Yes, it is something like that. A collection of macros and an in-depth discussion, inlcuding some "practical examples" of other features is what we are planning to publish online. Sure, RITLABS is welcome to include that in the help file. We can work together on that, for sure! Please excuse me for translating this, Florian :-) : Why excuse? It's perfect! :) -- Florian http://www.thebat.de German mailing list: http://liste.thebat.de German discussion board: http://forum.thebat.de -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder New message count problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:55:08 -0500, Tim thoughtfully wrote the following: TM Is any one else having a problem with the folder view displaying TM the wrong "New" message count? For example, I am reading mail in TM my TBUDL folder and the folder view says "TBUDL 1(1) 177(76)" TM which means 1 unread in TBUDL, (1) unread in a subfolder of TBUDL, TM etc. Now this would be fine, but I am searching manually for a TM bold message (unread) and using Ctrl+] to jump to the next unread TM message - no luck. I select another folder, then back to TBUDL, TM and it corrects, so not a big problem, but it is frequent enough TM that it is a pain... Hmmm, I have not had this problem. I have however been noting that the Inbox will sometimes come up with a message count of zero when there are in fact messages in the folder (read messages in this case). This wrong count (if it happens) always occurs after downloading mail and all of the new messages are filtered to other folders. ..rest snipped.. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TB(UDL|BETA|TECH)] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49b | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOmhS21fJ62ArBxfiEQIAKQCgwBI5CwzTsFe93e5GEahekQEMqwoAn1P7 hPCQATww9HfgKMy01WU5R0Yd =Skzu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder New message count problem
Hallo Tim, On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:55:08 -0500 GMT (19/01/2001, 20:55 +0800 GMT), Tim Musson wrote: TM Is any one else having a problem with the folder view displaying the TM wrong "New" message count? Yes, occasionally. The bat flaps and the Mail Ticker says "1 new message" but none of the accounts show any unread message. The ticker, I have noticed in this context, does not show the account/folder either. In the office I don't use the ticker, so the bat flaps its wings frantically, wanting me to read the message so it can rest again. But no folder (oh don't let me count them) shows anything. Since I don't have a ticker to click on, what am I supposed to do? Go through all folders? I am thinking of reporting this to an animal rights group. -- Cheers, Thomas. Co-Moderator der deutschsprachigen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When the radio mentions a landslide, cross your fingers and hope it is talking about an election. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Unable to set up PGP
Hello all, I just downloaded and installed the latest free PGP software and generated my public and private key pair. The problem is that I think I am setting up TB! incorrectly. Could someone please list the instructions to enable PGP for TB!? Thanks! Using The Bat! v1.48f on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Best regards, Gerry Doyon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP, WHat it is ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas ! On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:18:57 +0800 GMT your local time, which was 19.01.2001, 13:18 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: ss Why all of you use it ? Those that do, "sign" the message. It's a digital signature, so you can be sure nobody else wrote and sent that message. In addition to the authentication which a digital signature provides comes the integrity of the text. This means: the contents of the mail cannot be changed/altered without breaking the signature. I would like to invite Solid Snake to discuss this topic (if he is interested and would like to know more about it) to TBOT. - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.49 PGP-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - A living dog is better than a dead lion. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOmhS0Uy/sHrVbGGHEQI0JgCdGcYE7GAGKxeCNP9RFuC7RCqvH/sAn3HR HVNbbLTDx9Gb2ifUx/wC8nwt =nmWr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Re: Unable to set up PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 19, 2001, at 7:41:41 AM, Gerry Doyon Wrote: GD I just downloaded and installed the latest free PGP software and GD generated my public and private key pair. The problem is that I think GD I am setting up TB! incorrectly. GD Could someone please list the instructions to enable PGP for TB!? PGP 6.5.8 and TB! work flawlessly together. Personally, before going any further, I would download and install the latest version of TB!, which is 1.49, and even the 1.49c Beta is a very stable version. For PGP to work properly, you have to make sure you have the PGP DLL's installed. Look in your main TB Folder for BatPGP65.DLL, and if you can't find it, you will have to download the PGP DLL's here: ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/ Once/if you have those DLL's installed, all that is left is to start using PGP through Privacy/PGP/Sign... or any of the other various operations. Don't forget to go into PGP's Options/Email and make sure you uncheck PGP's word wrapping, as you don't need it with TB!. The beauty of TB! is that it puts in hard returns... reflows text right on the screen as you type... no word wrap after hitting the "Send" button. If you have any problems with PGP after you have it installed, please come join us at PGP-Basics... the subscribe notice available from my PGP Signature comment line. :o) Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOmhpn8UChHR7o/3OEQI9ewCgye5Tk+wmAeKkkkS5lMFmnPOzMcsAmwRv wlD6Vc3yYKZrqLaGySpJhRCp =FGnP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Unable to set up PGP
Please disregard. I needed only to re-start TB! to get everything to work okay. Friday, January 19, 2001, 10:41:41 AM, you wrote: GD Hello all, GD I just downloaded and installed the latest free PGP software and GD generated my public and private key pair. The problem is that I think GD I am setting up TB! incorrectly. GD Could someone please list the instructions to enable PGP for TB!? GD Thanks! GD Using The Bat! v1.48f on Windows 95 4.0 Build GD B -- Best regards, Gerrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] New England Shipping Solutions (207) 767-0100 (207) 767-6242 (Fax) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP, WHat it is ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 19, 2001, at 4:06:35 AM, solid snake Wrote: ss What is PGP ? ss Why all of you use PGP, that make view so bad..! ss And make Email so big, ss Why all of you use it ? We use it in an ongoing effort to increase our On-line security. The PGP signatures that you see a lot of, provide authentication and data integrity. PGP 6.5.8 Freeware/Retail works flawlessly with TB!. You can pick up your copy of it here: http://www.pgpi.org/cgi/download.cgi?filename=PGPFW658Win32.zip I invite you to come join PGP-Basics, where you will find quite a few TBUDL and TBBETA Members as well. There we will answer all of your questions regarding PGP, and get you up to speed on it as quickly as possible. You can join by clicking on the following MailTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOmhspsUChHR7o/3OEQK4eQCgsEF8iJFPvXER4rNyBZGYJxopzYMAn0Zk W9V6q7BZJEhW42Ma1hxC1bkl =NI2f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Disabling special characters in signal strings?
Hello Tbudl, Is there any way to disable the brackets (i.e., the characters [ and ] ) in signal strings so that they are treated as ordinary characters? Most of my mailing lists send mail whose subject contains the name of the list surrounded by brackets (e.g., [mailing list] ). I would like to use the brackets as an ordinary character in my signal strings because the "mailing list" name by itself is not always sufficient. -- Best regards, Bubba mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: folder level templates
On January 19, 2001, at 8:41:27 AM, David Elliott Wrote: DE I can see why Marck does not like folder level templates :-) Ok, I give up... Why is that? Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Automatically enter pas-phrase?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, As you can see(I hope), PGP is now active and I was successful. Not brain surgery, I know, but hey, a victory is a victory! My question is, can I somehow speed up or semi-automate the entry of my pass-phrase for signing e-mail? My pass-phrase is rather lengthy. Thanks! - -- Using The Bat! v1.49c on Windows 95 4.0 Build B Best regards, Gerry Doyon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digital Signature iQA/AwUBOmhzq6OYhupX8oq8EQIOWQCeLnK9zXz2mUs5CouWlC+ZwIBWVwUAoOAI S9RhlV9BqQsISffwRNC4aERT =7ExL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Automatically enter pas-phrase?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 19, 2001, at 9:04:30 AM, Gerry Doyon Wrote: GD My question is, can I somehow speed up or semi-automate the entry of GD my pass-phrase for signing e-mail? My pass-phrase is rather lengthy. Congratulations on getting PGP up and running. As you can see, your signature verified just fine: GD *** PGP Signature Status: good GD *** Signer: Gerald P. Doyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GD *** Signed: 19/01/01 9:04:43 AM GD *** Verified: 19/01/01 9:13:37 AM GD *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** As for caching your passphrase, you can do that through PGPKeys/Edit/Options/General... you should see the choices there for caching your passphrase. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOmh2Z8UChHR7o/3OEQKxsgCg8k/UiRMcGymaNhcr49j1xheFEJAAoMC0 mBVuJf2u6/O0Yy2Qx02f7QMm =YRPD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: folder level templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, On 19 January 2001 at 09:01:35 -0800 (which was 17:01 where I live) Nick Andriash wrote and made these points: DE I can see why Marck does not like folder level templates :-) NA Ok, I give up... Why is that? Because they cause mistakes to happen far too easily. I see many examples in the list.owner traffic. Look up my address in the TBUDL folder and write me a new message privately. [BONG] oops ... it went to the list. Run TB from the tray. Right click and ask for a new message. [BONG] The folder you are in makes a pigs ear of it. So many times, so many people have been tripped by something like this. So many times I have stated my opinion that folder templates cause more problems than they solve and that they should be shunned in favour of AB templates. But this is just an opinion and many ignore it or consider that their use of folder templates won't cause a problem. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmh6ADnkJKuSnc2gEQI+bgCffMw+zmr+HLbqmDcz9sc9ng7E4MgAoOes Ia+W4wsfSA33SooOyvN6ByhI =+tpc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Fatal BUG
Hello, I'm using the Demo Version of TB. Up to today I had no real problems but this bug is really fatal. Today I compressed some folders, and deleted some mails in trash. I closed TB and reopened it: no problem. 2 hours later (after installing MS Media Player 7 and Apple Quicktime) I opened TB again and now I can't read my mail anylonger. I can't unfold the first 3 of my 4 accounts, clicking on the + in front of the account name on the left window side doesn't trigger anything. And it's even worse. When trying to receive messages for the accounts TB bombs with an EAccessViolation after having received the first message. When I'm trying to send a message nothing happens. Installing the newest Version doesn't help... Please help. Stephan -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - newbie: quoting the output of a regexp
Hello Jan, Historians believe that on Fri, 19 Jan 2001 at 07:58:11 GMT -0500, Jan Rifkinson [JR] typed: JR %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'': You need another single quote at the very end of this line. So it becomes: %WRAPPED='On %ODATEEN %QINCLUDE="OTIME", you wrote the following in regards to ''%QINCLUDE="bracket"'':' -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A OK, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to become eccentric. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Fatal BUG
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 19, 2001, at 9:49:03 AM, Stephan Wrote: S Today I compressed some folders, and deleted some mails in trash. S I closed TB and reopened it: no problem. S 2 hours later (after installing MS Media Player 7 and S Apple Quicktime) I opened TB again and now I can't read my mail S anylonger. Uninstall Media Player and Quicktime. ;o) Seriously though, I don't see how you can suspect TB! of having a fatal bug, when the problems only show up after having installed those two Programs. Media Player 7 is notorious for causing problems in other Applications. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOmh/cMUChHR7o/3OEQLxzACfYU5KVKWrFK6bMfGgMNCWfmebkYIAn2nO obzfkMid/iaJnHvuqm5Zebna =eO+f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Checking PGP Keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I selected TB!'s option: Tools|PGP|Check PGP Signature on some of the signed messages I received from this list. So far, without exception, the results say Unknown signer, validity is not verified and unknown key. Am I using this tool properly? I thought that everyone who uses PGP had to send their key to the central database for use in verification? When I do it to my own message it comes back validated. Thanks! - -- Using The Bat! v1.49c on Windows 95 4.0 Build B Best regards, Gerry Doyon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digital Signature iQA/AwUBOmh/k6OYhupX8oq8EQIrRACg3bseJOdZ5xPUGv7O5G9xiss1yyUAn0uW 86AARNLD4/1XL38TP0rfd9jI =pOSN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: HELP MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK
Hello Marck, Thursday, January 18, 2001, 6:55:57 PM, you wrote: MDP The more responsible attitude is to take a minute or two to paste the mail MDP (including headers) to http://spamcop.net. Thanks Marck! I didn't know that site existed -- looks handy, I'll give it a try. -- Best regards, Dave mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Fatal BUG
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stephan, On 19 January 2001 at 18:49:03 +0100 (which was 17:49 where I live) Stephan wrote and made these points: S I'm using the Demo Version of TB. S Up to today I had no real problems but this bug is really fatal. S Today I compressed some folders, and deleted some mails in trash. S I closed TB and reopened it: no problem. QED, really. If you reopened it at this stage with no problem then there is no bug in TB. S 2 hours later (after installing MS Media Player 7 and S Apple Quicktime) I opened TB again and now I can't read my mail S anylonger. S I can't unfold the first 3 of my 4 accounts, clicking on the + S in front of the account name on the left window side doesn't S trigger anything. S And it's even worse. When trying to receive messages for the S accounts TB bombs with an EAccessViolation after having received S the first message. When I'm trying to send a message nothing S happens. It sounds like something (not TB, something else) has trashed the disk folders in which your messages were stored. This is not TB's fault. Do a scandisk and correct any disk faults. I would say that the data you had is now corrupt beyond redemption. This, again, is not TB's doing. You'd be better off to start over in a known stable environment. I have run TB for over two years and have more than 85000 mails in the mail base. I compress regularly and have *never* had problems on this scale. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmiGOjnkJKuSnc2gEQJJEACghgMJJs3ekTIsaTtSweZSbrk3d7YAoOg8 KKf8pFn0OI9reHUjQdflIGYT =ir9D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: BLOCK SENDER
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mike! On Friday, January 19, 2001 at 12:26:47 AM you wrote: Besides, notifying the developers (Help;Feedback;Suggestions) should prove more efficacious than notifying other users, even the ones who like the "block sender" idea. You mean, like, blocking him? I hope he's just a kid learning the Force of TB!. But he behaves like a Troll laying bait ... - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Our country is at that awkward stage: It's too early to shoot the bastards, and too late for working within the system to do any good. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOmh0k/To1oA8g8dLEQIXYgCcCIcCQnXfoAYOWJ47sxNsXomyG/cAn00G swjpTEB90xnX+cbn3h6vQyfB =CKgA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Checking PGP Keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 19, 2001, at 9:55:15 AM, Gerry Doyon Wrote: GD I selected TB!'s option: Tools|PGP|Check PGP Signature on some of the GD signed messages I received from this list. So far, without exception, GD the results say Unknown signer, validity is not verified and unknown GD key. You have to enable PGP to automatically connect to the KeyServes when encountering an unknown Public Key. It will then find that Key, and ask you if you want to import the Key onto your Public Key Ring. Come and join us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] where all of these types of questions can be answered. Look forward to seeing you there: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOmiHVMUChHR7o/3OEQKdxQCglP9tSudPoXOGn4JQ4cBbmhgwhxkAn3P4 19x4Gzyc6VorYOLQ0inv0nD8 =u9qb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Automatically enter pas-phrase?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick, Friday, January 19, 2001, 12:16:26 PM, you wrote: NA As for caching your passphrase, you can do that through NA PGPKeys/Edit/Options/General... you should see the choices there for caching NA your passphrase. That did the trick! Thanks! - -- Best regards, Gerrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] New England Shipping Solutions (207) 767-0100 (207) 767-6242 (Fax) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digital Signature iQA/AwUBOmiI46OYhupX8oq8EQIqhgCg81GQVEKENc4RpSPpD9+5CfandDUAnjVb IfC1d5zZMXXm9jzTM5PVisV0 =VZ1k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Checking PGP Keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerry! On Friday, January 19, 2001 at 6:55:15 PM you wrote: Am I using this tool properly? I thought that everyone who uses PGP had to send their key to the central database for use in verification? When I do it to my own message it comes back validated. You have to have the public key of the sender, not just to encrypt something for him but to verify his signature as well. That's why I asked you by mail to send me yours. BTW, requesting and handling these requests for PGP keys (or anything else you regularly want someone to have by asking) is very easy if you use some easy filtering and create a link like mine below. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.49 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Be good and you will be lonesome. (Mark Twain) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOmh5UfTo1oA8g8dLEQJehwCeJiVuy2FHerI0lzwcU7dXUF/zRAMAoN3I qxZahdJ6xUl6VSb4OOM9hxiy =Z5w1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: BLOCK SENDER
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, at 19:08:33 [GMT +0100], Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I hope he's just a kid learning the Force of TB!. But he behaves like DH a Troll laying bait ... I will assume "lack of clue" for the time being. That malady can be cured more easily in most patients. Mike Yetto - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key E-mailed using The Bat! v1.49 running on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmiRidkz/SR3Uv4yEQIDrACfSzVdxVGIHTNjcfD48UA4bZgCNaAAoPWG DdTruU/i2zZ6DAMDhivN39FP =S7yE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Fatal BUG
It sounds like something (not TB, something else) has trashed the disk folders in which your messages were stored. This is not TB's fault. Do a scandisk and correct any disk faults. I found the problem, the account.flx-files got corrupted. I repaired my folders by deleting the account.* files and recreating the folders of the accounts with the same name as before. I still think TB should report a correct error and not just crash... Stephan -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Disabling special characters in signal strings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, at 08:43:58 [GMT -0800], Bubba wrote: B Is there any way to disable the brackets (i.e., the characters [ and ] B ) in signal strings so that they are treated as ordinary characters? B Most of my mailing lists send mail whose subject contains the name of B the list surrounded by brackets (e.g., [mailing list] ). I would like B to use the brackets as an ordinary character in my signal strings B because the "mailing list" name by itself is not always sufficient. Rather than use a straight signal string, set the filter to use regex for the string and use "\[mailing list\]" without the quotes. Mike Yetto - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key E-mailed using The Bat! v1.49 running on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOmiZf9kz/SR3Uv4yEQJwHgCgy2xcFdZ84RcFVwCtzFQ9XjlbqYcAoJeY ZlVfTRU0blJhLXIEYn6sMY9m =VAyR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Fatal BUG
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stephan, On 19 January 2001 at 20:28:54 +0100 (which was 19:28 where I live) Stephan wrote and made these points: ... Do a scandisk and correct any disk faults. S I found the problem, the account.flx-files got corrupted. I repaired S my folders by deleting the account.* files and recreating the folders of S the accounts with the same name as before. S I still think TB should report a correct error and not just crash... That's a fair and correct point. If you still have a copy of the corrupted files, it may be worth sending them with a detailed bug report (detailing account names, layouts and folder structures) to RIT labs so that they can add a trap for the errors. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmiZmznkJKuSnc2gEQLNwQCeLFMM6nqzJPTmY20eHJ3BfRzr1wYAnA1f GE7EfsVwev37SDmY7JjssXQV =fRBk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
folder level templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, I can see why Marck does not like folder level templates :-) - -- Regards, David _ | David Elliott | Software Engineer | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Tagline Withdrawal Syndrome | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOmhuOPmK8eZlD0U0EQJNcQCfQOZnXF08ovQis67SqBxUxk8+TfAAn2cz YTD6g+xvSDX9VLbdTfKQoPo1 =Xv/9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP, WHat it is ?
Jumat, waktu orang pada tidur, [..in milis thebat!..] ..rest snipped I would like to invite Solid Snake to discuss this topic (if he is interested and would like to know more about it) to TBOT. ..Gerd Ewald said. where I can join ? -- "Squeal Boy, squeal" si bengong, yang nulis waktu Ayam berkokok solid snake mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP, WHat it is ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi solid, On 19 January 2001 at 05:34:48 +0700 (which was 22:34 where I live) solid snake wrote and made these points: I would like to invite Solid Snake to discuss this topic (if he is interested and would like to know more about it) to TBOT. ss where I can join ? TBOT is The Bat Off-Topic discussion list. It is a list set up by one of our members on egroups which takes the "overspill" conversations from TBUDL and TBBETA. Here is the segment of the TBUDL welcome message which tells of its' existence and of how to join: == TBOT - The Bat off topic discussion list == One of our members has created a list for those occasional off topic discussions of public interest. Please feel free to join this list, where many of our readership currently participate. Addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOmjLCTnkJKuSnc2gEQKJ6ACbB6/NWL5B9h7La0qGGDSZeszG2f8AoIDe uAT84hjm1GwzRq+ZqDnfpSMz =Kupj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Like Notepad with word-wrap...
Hello TBUDL, The 'correct' encoding in my country is ISO-8859-2 with 8bit transfer (Serbian Latin / Croatian / Slovenian... since we in former Yugoslavia use high-ASCII characters and that's why we need 8 bits for transfer) and that's OK, but... I want to write messages with automatic wrapping and that's also OK in TB, but I want them WITHOUT CR/LF (Enter) codes at the end of each line! Is there any way or possibility to write them like one long line in Notepad with word-wrap option turned on, "ready for DTP processing"? That's why I can't never accept CR/LF codes... Just one big line, but wrapped automatically when reaching end of the display... What about quoted-printable encoding? Will this, if I use, remedy my 8-bit letters? Thank you very much in advance, I've been bugging with this for a long time ago! -- Best Regards, Lija, YUPCExpert-Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Time zones with greetings
Hello TBUDL, Since I am still a newbie, tell me how to do this: I use the usual Time Zone greeting when I respond to friends who live in my own country (same GMT zone), but what is the macro command to write 'which was time where I live' like all of you do when reply, since we all are from different GMT zones? Thank you in advance. -- Best Regards, Lija, YUPCExpert-Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Big useless TBUDL headers and messages...
Hello tbUDL, All of you probably know this, but take a look at it again: -- X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Administrator: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com -- 11 useless rows in ALL message headers here in TBUDL... plus the "signature": -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : user -- ... and PGP data... and large quotes... grmpf ;(( ... Why do you have to make it this way? Please forgive me for my misunderstanding, but these messages are bunch of USELESS data (well, 90% of them:)... -- Best Regards, Lija, YUPCExpert-Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time zones with greetings
Hello Lija,
Historians believe that on Sat, 20 Jan 2001 at 06:02:13 GMT +0100,
Lija [L] typed:
L I use the usual Time Zone greeting when I respond to friends who live in my own
L country (same GMT zone), but what is the macro command to write 'which was
L time where I live' like all of you do when reply, since we all are from
L different GMT zones?
You need %OTIME for the original message's time converted to your
timezone.
The unconverted time is retrieved using a regular expression. You can
find that macro on the FAQ at:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html
So an example is:
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"On%SUBPATT="2",
at %SUBPATT="3" [GMT%SUBPATT="4"] (which was %OTIME where I live),...
Which gives:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, at 06:02:13 [GMT +0100] (which was 9:02 PM where I live),...
--
Thanks for writing,
Januk Aggarwal
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Re: Like Notepad with word-wrap...
Hi Lija, On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 06:17:53 +0100GMT (20/01/2001, 13:17 +0800GMT), Lija wrote: but... I want to write messages with automatic wrapping and that's also OK in TB, but I want them WITHOUT CR/LF (Enter) codes at the end of each line! TB's editor is a WYSIWYG editor. That means, if it shows you a new line, there really is a new line (hard return). IOW: TB's editor knows only hard return (CR/LF), and no soft returns as in Notepad. Advantage: the mail will be sent exactly the way you see it. Is there any way or possibility to write them like one long line in Notepad with word-wrap option turned on, "ready for DTP processing"? What is DTP processing? What about quoted-printable encoding? Will this, if I use, remedy my 8-bit letters? Dunno. Why don't you try it out? -- Cheers, Thomas. Co-Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time zones with greetings
Hi Lija,
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 06:02:13 +0100GMT (20/01/2001, 13:02 +0800GMT),
Lija wrote:
I use the usual Time Zone greeting when I respond to friends who live in my own
country (same GMT zone), but what is the macro command to write 'which was
time where I live' like all of you do when reply, since we all are from
different GMT zones?
Since it is not on the FAQ page
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html , I am posting here
what the time zone greeting looks like in my reply template:
On%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS"GMT
(%ODateShort, %OTime +0800GMT),
%OFROMNAME wrote:
The result you see above. If you cp it, don't forget to adjust the
"+0800GMT" to your time zone.
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Re: Big useless TBUDL headers and messages...
Hi Lija, On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:54:51 +0100GMT (20/01/2001, 12:54 +0800GMT), Lija wrote: 11 useless rows in ALL message headers here in TBUDL... plus the "signature": Not that useless. Some mailers read the "List-" headers and you can pop up a window. We are hoping for this to be included in The Bat at some time. Well, at least this is how I remember it to be when this large header was included. As for the footer, it is necessary, as most people (including myself) don't always look at the header, but "where is the archive" is one of those questions that come up too often otherwise. And the PGP sigs... some people are afraid that others will impersonate them or change their postings on this list. I don't think the PGP sig is necessary for anybody but the moderators, but it was discussed at length - most people disagreed with me - but at least S/Mime sigs (which are much bigger) were banned. Please see the archives for more details. -- Cheers, Thomas. Co-Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Big useless TBUDL headers and messages...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 19, 2001, at 10:23:50 PM, Thomas Wrote: T And the PGP sigs... some people are afraid that others will impersonate T them or change their postings on this list. Thomas, you are destroying my image of you! :o( I thought you were more forward thinking than that sentence indicates. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOmk4fsUChHR7o/3OEQJrhgCggaQ8MW2pjmJQPGw2/yGQXk5QNqQAoM5Z ZgYiFyjEw29AhnktDBI3Z3WN =Bz9T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Big useless TBUDL headers and messages...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 19, 2001, at 8:54:51 PM, Lija Wrote: L All of you probably know this, but take a look at it again: So some of the headers are redundant, so what? If you don't want to view them, uncheck the item under View. L 11 useless rows in ALL message headers here in TBUDL... plus the L "signature": The footer has a lot of valuable information in it, and not everyone has the view RFC-822 Headers checked. L ... and PGP data... They are called PGP Signatures. L and large quotes... grmpf ;(( ... With that, I'll agree... L Why do you have to make it this way? Please forgive me for my L misunderstanding, but these messages are bunch of USELESS data (well, 90% L of them:)... If, as you state, you have this misunderstanding, why then do you refer to it as "useless" data when you apparently have not cleared up that misunderstanding? Perhaps you should pay attention to some of that "useless data", and direct your message to: List-Administrator: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, for a new person, you don't seem to be too happy here on TBUDL with either the way the messages are presented, nor the people who write them. Funny attitude for someone new to the List. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.49c | PGP 7.0.3 | Win 98 SE ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOmk9csUChHR7o/3OEQK7VQCeNLnrbv4E/CX5W+7k0/XItP741AsAoOmP ZE5cIzYmZAbyWZ3rDtXwKke6 =V4Lj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Big useless TBUDL headers and messages...
Hi Nick, On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:04:43 -0800GMT (20/01/2001, 15:04 +0800GMT), Nick Andriash wrote: T And the PGP sigs... some people are afraid that others will impersonate T them or change their postings on this list. Thomas, you are destroying my image of you! :o( I thought you were more forward thinking than that sentence indicates. challenge Set me straight then! Convince me! (On TBOT if need be.) /challenge Here is my opinion, as expressed a few months ago in another thread, either here or on TBBETA: 1.) I said that general postings to mailing lists should not be signed. It's a waste of bandwidth. Remember, I said: "I would be honoured if someone wanted to impersonate me", after which somebody promptly did, causing me to LOL. By now, I don't mind if postings are PGP signed. (My average download speed has also improved by 50% from 1Kb/s to 1.5Kb/s. And: I *will* get a cable modem come April. Checking ISP's currently. Speeds with cable modems are rumoured to be up to 700Kb/s, even here. :-) 2.) I think the moderators should PGP sign their postings (at least when they are posting in a moderator's capacity, but it would be tedious to turn PGP-sing on and off). 3.) For private mail, PGP is a good idea. Both signing and encrypting. There is absolute agreement here. -- Cheers, Thomas. Co-Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB for Linux
Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sabtu, 2:23 PM Is there any project, the bat for linux ? people in linux is always search and searching..Email Clients, that have "little" goodness, but until now just KMail is good, with boring interface..and boring thing.., If thebat for linux comeout..nothing loose from linux ~~ "Squeal Boy, squeal" solid snake mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Big useless TBUDL headers and messages...
Sabtu, pagi agak siang, [..in milis thebat!..] ..rest snipped ... and PGP data... and large quotes... grmpf ;(( ... Why do you have to make it this way? Please forgive me for my misunderstanding, but these messages are bunch of USELESS data (well, 90% of them:)... ..Lija said. yeah..he's right. Is better to make one week info about unsubscribe or other info..! -- "Squeal Boy, squeal" SS, yang nulis siang siang solid snake mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
