Re: vCard

2001-03-14 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello OK3!

On Wednesday, March 14, 2001 at 7:29:43 AM you wrote:

 Yes,  it  can.  I have an icon supplied by Lotus Organizer for vCards.
 Try  to  remember which soft did you install lately that could replace
 association of vCard files.

An update of IE (from 5.0 to 5.5); some of my programmes (i.e. Banking
ned it). Well I try to find out how I can get the icon back.


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Re[2]: vCard

2001-03-14 Thread OK3

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Wednesday, March 14, 2001, Dierk Haasis wrote to OK3 about
vCard:

DH An update of IE (from 5.0 to 5.5); some of my programmes (i.e. Banking
DH ned it). Well I try to find out how I can get the icon back.

Check HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.vcf in your registry.

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Mailticker and Screenreader

2001-03-14 Thread Thomas

Hello TBUDL,

did you know that the Mailticker freezes screenreaders, sometimes even
the whole system (depends on the kind of Windows, the amount of RAM,
etc)?

I think here should be at least an easy-to find way to turn it off,
instead of expecting blind new users to find out that there *is* a
moving thing, and that is the reason for the problem, and then *how*
to turn it off, right as the first action in a brand-new program. I
know a few people who have thrown TB into the corner because it froze
their system as a welcome greeting.

I'm talking about Jaws. Can people with other screenreaders confirm
this?

Someone has suggested to supply a .reg file for blind users. This
could be run and would turn off the ticker in the registry. Would that
work?

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2 PGP bugs that could be embarassing

2001-03-14 Thread dp-lists


Thought that the 2 following bugs using TB! and PGP might be of interest -
both will allow you to send an unencrypted message when you think that you
are safe.

1 - forwarding HTML emails with PGP encryption in insecure

2 - The field %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE/ the Privacy - Encrypt when completed
option is lost when you save a message as draft.

cheers,
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Bug description has been sent to developers, included here for your info.
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Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.51
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  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
forwarding HTML emails with PGP encryption in insecure

If you forward a HTML email, TB! will encrypt the `text' part of the
message, but will also attach a file - message.shtml - and this will
not be encrypted - so you may think that your email is secure, but
alas you have just forwarded an unencrypted copy of your message.

  Steps to reproduce the bug:
generate a HTML email, say using outlook express, send it to your TB!
mailbox. Forward it, and set Privacy-Encrypt when completed. When it
gets forwarded, take a look and see that the main text is pgp'd but
message.shtml has been attached unencrypted.

Regards,
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  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.51
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  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
The field %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE/ the Privacy - Encrypt when completed
option is lost when you save a message as draft.

  Steps to reproduce the bug:
Either use a template, or set Privacy - Encrypted when completed when
creating a new message. First time hit the save as draft hourglass
icon to postpone creation of the message. Now when you go back to
complete the message and either send direct or put into the outbox,
the message will not be pgp encrypted.

Now, create a new message again, selecting encrypt when complete. This
time put into the outbox. Go back, it will be encrypted, and you could
if you wanted decrypt and keep composing.

So the bug will result in people mistakenly sending unencrypted email
if they used the draft feature.

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What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?

2001-03-14 Thread chucksings

I know what I wish it was: the ability to choose from which account I
want to email from.  Is it?  If so, I cannot get  it to do anything.
Have I missed a setting?

  

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Re: What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?

2001-03-14 Thread Tobias Wrede

Hello chucksings,

On Mittwoch, 14. Mrz 2001 at 14:01:40 chucksings wrote:

 Have I missed a setting?

Not AFAIK. That button has never forked for me, eather. But when you
are in the new message window you can choose in the From: field from
which account to send.

so long
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Re: What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?

2001-03-14 Thread Shahar

On Wednesday, March 14, 2001, at 15:01:40, chucksings wrote about:
What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?


 I know what I wish it was: the ability to choose from which account I
 want to email from.  Is it?  If so, I cannot get  it to do anything.
 Have I missed a setting?

If you mean the "Get new mail" button so the arrow let you choose what
account to get new mail from. For this you need to have more than one
account.

If you mean the "Create a new message" button so the arrow let you
choose the recipients from your favorites address (Address book |
click the Favorite check box.

I hope I helped.



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Re: What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?

2001-03-14 Thread Shahar

On Wednesday, March 14, 2001, at 15:01:40, chucksings wrote about:
What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?


 I know what I wish it was: the ability to choose from which account I
 want to email from.  Is it?  If so, I cannot get  it to do anything.
 Have I missed a setting?

If you mean the "Get new mail" button so the arrow let you choose what
account to get new mail from. For this you need to have more than one
account.

If you mean the "Create a new message" button so the arrow let you
choose the recipients from your favorites address (Address book |
click the Favorite check box.



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Re[2]: What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?

2001-03-14 Thread André Engelhardt

Hello Tobias,

 On Wednesday, March 14, 2001 at 15:39:53GMT +0100 (which was 3:36 PM where I live) 
you wrote:

TW Hello chucksings,

TW On Mittwoch, 14. Mrz 2001 at 14:01:40 chucksings wrote:

 Have I missed a setting?

TW Not AFAIK. That button has never forked for me, eather. But when you
TW are in the new message window you can choose in the From: field from
TW which account to send.

TW so long
TW Tobias


It works fine here, it allows me to select for which account I want to
download my mail. Same on the send button for sending mail.


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orignal time / my time macro

2001-03-14 Thread André Engelhardt

Hi TBUDL,
   I'm having a problem with the "original time / my time macro" since
   it _always_ displays the senders time with GMT +0100:
   
   "On Wednesday, March 14, 2001 at 02:29:36GMT +0100 (which was 2:24
   AM where I live) you wrote:"

   I haven't yet been able to fully understand the functioning of this
   macro's syntax so I'd be very happy if anybody could tell me how to adjust the macro
   so it will display the senders timezone correctly.

   Thanks in advance!

   P.S.: I've sent this message before but it never came back from the
   list server so I'm sorry if you receive this message twice.

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Re: What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?

2001-03-14 Thread Tim Musson

Hey chucksings,

Wednesday, March 14, 2001, 8:01:40 AM, you wrote:

c I know what I wish it was: the ability to choose from which account I
c want to email from.  Is it?  If so, I cannot get  it to do anything.
c Have I missed a setting?

Looks to me as if that is exactly what it is. I have about 10 accounts
set up, and the ones that don't have passwords (or opened with the
required password) are listed. I just select which one I want, and
bang, it checks that account's mail.

My guess is all your accounts have passwords, and they are all
normally closed?

Thanks for pointing it out to me...  I had seen it, but never bothered
to look and see what it did.  I always just made the account active
that I wanted to check mail for.  Nice shortcut! :-)

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Re[2]: Palm Sync

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Chiou

Hello Stefan,

Friday, March 02, 2001, 12:06:30 AM, you wrote:

JC I've tried everything as you suggest. I can get Outlook Express to
JC sync up fine, but as soon as I re-install TB as the default client
JC (with the InstallMapi option), it fails again.

ST Important note: you should set The Bat! account you want to
ST synchronise with Palm as the default for mailto: URL handling...



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Re[3]: Palm Sync

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Chiou

Please  disregard...previously  answered...but continually searching
for solution.



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Wednesday, March 14, 2001, 7:38:15 AM, Peter Chiou wrote:

PC Hello Stefan,

PC Friday, March 02, 2001, 12:06:30 AM, you wrote:

JC I've tried everything as you suggest. I can get Outlook Express to
JC sync up fine, but as soon as I re-install TB as the default client
JC (with the InstallMapi option), it fails again.

ST Important note: you should set The Bat! account you want to
ST synchronise with Palm as the default for mailto: URL handling...



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PC   What  kind  of sync'ing is this? Is this with only the email or both
PC   email and addressbook? Thanks in advance.






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Re[3]: Palm Sync

2001-03-14 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Peter,

Wednesday, March 14, 2001, 10:38:15 AM, you wrote:

PC What  kind  of sync'ing is this? Is this with only the email or both
PC   email and addressbook? Thanks in advance.

AFAIK there is no conduit written to sync the Palm add book with TB's.
So it would only be eMail...

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Sticky send/fetch windows' positions

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Chiou

Hello TB! Wizards,

What is this option?

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Re: Sticky send/fetch windows' positions

2001-03-14 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Peter,

Wednesday, March 14, 2001, 10:56:49 AM, you wrote:

PC What is this option?

It allows you to move the status (for getting and sending mail) window
to a different part of the screen (from the center) and it will always
show up there until moved.

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Re: orignal time / my time macro

2001-03-14 Thread Thomas

Hallo Andr,

On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:02:28 +0100 GMT (14/03/2001, 23:02 +0800 GMT),
Andr Engelhardt wrote:

AE"On Wednesday, March 14, 2001 at 02:29:36GMT +0100 (which was 2:24
AEAM where I live) you wrote:"

AEI haven't yet been able to fully understand the functioning of this
AEmacro's syntax so I'd be very happy if anybody could tell me how to adjust the 
macro
AEso it will display the senders timezone correctly.

Post the RegEx here (no, post it on TBTECH), and we'll take a look. I
suspect the sender of the message you replied to was in time zone GMT
+0100 and you yourself are there too. What I don't understand is why
there is a difference of 5 minutes.

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Re: Sticky send/fetch windows' positions

2001-03-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

On 14 March 2001 at  07:56:49 -0800 (which was 15:56 where I  live)
Peter Chiou wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

PC What is this option?

When this is turned on, the mail Send/Fetch percentage progress
windows will always appear on the screen at the position to which you
move them.

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Re: orignal time / my time macro

2001-03-14 Thread Stuart Tares

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, at 16:02:28 [GMT +0100] you wrote:

AE Hi TBUDL, I'm having a problem with the "original time / my time
AE macro" since it _always_ displays the senders time with GMT +0100:

The macro shown at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html does
work.  Can you post the regexp to TBTECH and also a copy of the
headers of a mail you reply to (show all headers via ctrl-shift-K) and
we can have a look at it.

However, one thing which I do notice is that there is a five minute
difference in the times - very strange.

Stuart
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Not receiving msg 's with attachement

2001-03-14 Thread Aad Teijl

Hello TBDUL

First of all I'm new to this list so I don't know if this topic has been
discussed allready, if so my apologies.
My question is!
When I receive messages and there is a file attached to it many times it
breaks of the receiving process and leaves all the msg's on the server, I
allready checked all my preferences but can't seem to find the problem, do any
of you recognise the problem and if so can help me with a solution.

TIA


PS. my system is a Soltek mainboard with Pentium III @ 500Mhz, 256 MB RAM,
VooDoo 3 3000 AGP 16 MB, Soundblaster Live 1024, Dawi SCSI controller, 3COM
NIC and Unex NIC running W2K Pro SVP1, firewal ZoneAlarm and Sygate internet
connection sharing.
I hope this information is enough

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Address Book Utility

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Chiou

Hello TB! Wizards,

Is  there  a  way  while editing an AB entry to cycle down to the next
entry without having to close the AB form and reopen one for the next.
I  can't  seem  to  find  a  quick  and  easy  way  to  edit the group
memberships of multiple individuals. Thanks!

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Re: Not receiving msg 's with attachement

2001-03-14 Thread Thomas

Hallo Aad,

On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:30:28 +0100 GMT (15/03/2001, 01:30 +0800 GMT),
Aad Teijl wrote:

AT When I receive messages and there is a file attached to it many times it
AT breaks of the receiving process and leaves all the msg's on the server, I
AT allready checked all my preferences but can't seem to find the problem, do any
AT of you recognise the problem and if so can help me with a solution.

When the connection breaks, it is not TB's fault, but the
connection's. The mail will not be deleted from the server, because it
was not completely downloaded.

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Re: What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?

2001-03-14 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Tobias,
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, at 15:36:56 +0100 you wrote:

 Not AFAIK. That button has never forked for me, eather. But
 when you are in the new message window you can choose in the
 From: field from which account to send.

It hasn't worked because that's not what it was intended to do.
With the little arrow next to the create new message button, you
can choose from a number of recipients marked as 'Favorit' in
your AB.

If you want to choose the account from which the message will be
sent, you can either select a folder of that account before
creating a new message or select the account in the status bar at
the bottom of the editor window.

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Duplicate filters/filter-settings for 2nd account?

2001-03-14 Thread Alexander Levenetz

Hello everybody,


is there a way to duplicate all filters from account A to also have
them in account B? Is there a file or anything that can be copied for
that purpose? Thanks.

greetings,
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Re[2]: Not receiving msg 's with attachement

2001-03-14 Thread Aad Teijl

Hello Thomas 
On Wednesday, March 14, 2001 you wrote about: Not receiving msg 's with attachement


Thomas Hallo Aad,

Thomas When the connection breaks, it is not TB's fault, but the
Thomas connection's.

That's the problem it's not the connection that breaks, if I have say 30 msg's
and the first 10 are text msg's they come happily running in, but the next msg
which has an attachement starts downloading and when it's almost ready it
quits and stops receiving at all, next step: I look at the server and skip the
particular file and start again all msg's come in until there is a next msg
with attachement and the same happens, I didn't experience this with version
1.49 and if I then use OE they do come in normal but I don't like OE and don't
want to use it!
Before I used an Amiga with YAM emailer and I loved it, the Bat comes as close to
this Email proggie as possible and I want to keep on using it so I hope this
is a bug and will be resolved in a next version if not maybe someone else
experienced this behaviour and knows a solution.

Thomas The mail will not be deleted from the server, because it
Thomas was not completely downloaded.

Yes I know this is normal for most emailers but this was not the real problem.

Thomas The sig delimiter should be dash-dash-space-enter. I think you forgot
Thomas the space, so it doesn't work.

Yes I forgot the space now it should be okay thx

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Re: Duplicate filters/filter-settings for 2nd account?

2001-03-14 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello all,
Wednesday, March 14, 2001, Alexander Levenetz wrote:

 is there a way to duplicate all filters from account A to also have
 them in account B? Is there a file or anything that can be copied for
 that purpose? Thanks.

Yes, You can move ACCOUNT.SRX file from ane account directory to the
second one.

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Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?

2001-03-14 Thread Leo Zelevinsky

Hello The Bat! Users,

I am a new user - and I love it so far. I have a few questions and
comments, but I figure I'll post them in separate messages so that
people have a chance to reply separately.

I have a POP server and want to read mail from both home and work. I
want to keep messages permanently all at home and just leave them on
the server while reading from work. Here is the problem: Let's say I
have 10 mins only before going to work - I am at home and I open up TB.
It downloads the messages from the server and deletes them from there,
so if I don't have time to read them now, they will stay unread till I
get back home from work. This is not a huge problem but a bit
annoying.

Then, I realize that I could make a filter which will delete the
message from server after I read it. Great - that means that I can
always leave messages on server, but at home as soon as the message is
marked as read, it will be deleted from server. Problem solved.

However, I also have a whole bunch of filters for automatically moving
mailing list mail into their corresponding folders. I notice that the
Read filter seems to only work for one particular folder you specify
in the filter.

Is there any way to make it work for all folders? If not, is there any
other way to achieve what I want?

Thanks a lot for any info!

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Dispatching

2001-03-14 Thread daveiw

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Hi all,

Please  would someone tell me what the purpose of 'dispatching' is
and the correct suggested use of it?



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Re: Mailticker and Screenreader

2001-03-14 Thread Krister Ekstrom

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on Wednesday, March 14, 2001 12:50:34, our bat friend Thomas typed:

T Someone has suggested to supply a .reg file for blind users. This
T could be run and would turn off the ticker in the registry. Would that
T work?

Maybe. Another thing would be to present a dialog the first time the
program was ever run and in this dialog you could have an option to
turn the mailticker off. I didn't personally have problems with the
system freezing, but it sure got very hard to read when the mailticker
was enabled.


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Re: Dispatching

2001-03-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi daveiw,

On 14 March 2001 at  19:02:03 + (which was 19:02 where I  live)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to TBUDL and made these points:

dcn Please  would someone tell me what the purpose of 'dispatching' is
dcn and the correct suggested use of it?

The "Dispatcher" is a sub-system which reads all message headers from
the server and provides an interface for you to decide the fate of
each message it finds there: Download, delete, delete without
downloading, leave for another time, etc.

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word wrap

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Morton

Hello TBUDL,

Sorry for the niave question but when I past my emails in from word
the text just wraps after paragraphs. I don't know if then in the Bat
I should manually create carriage returns to make it look good on my
screen or send it with sentences going way off my screen hoping that
the recipients email program will realign it. thank for any guidance.



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Re[2]: orignal time / my time macro

2001-03-14 Thread André Engelhardt

Hello Thomas,

 On Wednesday, March 14, 2001 at 17:17:34GMT +0100 (which was 5:11 PM where I live) 
you wrote:

T Post the RegEx here (no, post it on TBTECH), and we'll take a look. I
T suspect the sender of the message you replied to was in time zone GMT
T +0100 and you yourself are there too. What I don't understand is why
T there is a difference of 5 minutes.

I checked that with people from many different timezones including
Brazil, China and California and when i reply to them (wether it be
from a mailing list or an email that was sent directly to me) i always get the reply 
with
GMT+0100 which is my timezone. And the problem with the difference of
5 minutes (sometimes 8 sometime 9 sometimes 2 etc) is probably just
that some people's clocks aren't set correctly to the minute.

I'm using the template/macro from http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html

here's how I put it into my template:

%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"
 On %ODATE at %SUBPATT="3"GMT%SUBPATT="4" (which was %OTIME where I live) you wrote:

Here's a header of a brazilian sender (also displays GMT+0100 when I
reply to it):
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Return-path: 
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Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:32:23 +0100
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Re: Dispatching

2001-03-14 Thread Jan-Arild Løkstad

Hello Marck,

Wednesday, March 14, 2001, 8:39:10 PM, you wrote:

 The "Dispatcher" is a sub-system which reads all message headers
 from the server and provides an interface for you to decide the fate
 of each message it finds there: Download, delete, delete without
 downloading, leave for another time, etc.

  While on the subject - is it possible to change the font used in the
  Dispatcher to bold as it used to be? I use the Dispatcher a lot, but
  find the font a little hard to read.

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Re[2]: How to NOT get messages for an account?

2001-03-14 Thread ztrader

On Tuesday, March 13, 2001, 3:33:07 PM, Dave Gorman wrote:

z Question: how can I set TBat to NOT get mail for an account when
z alt-f2 is pressed?

DG In Account Properties go to Options and check "Ignore 'Check all accounts'
DG Request".  That seems to do the trick for me.

Thanks much,

ztrader

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Re: Dispatching

2001-03-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Jan-Arild,

On 14 March 2001 at  21:22:57 +0100 (which was 20:22 where I  live)
Jan-Arild Lkstad wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points:

JAL   While on the subject - is it possible to change the font used in the
JAL   Dispatcher to bold as it used to be? I use the Dispatcher a lot, but
JAL   find the font a little hard to read.

Pass - I don't use it at all. I imagine it uses a system default /
Delphi component default font. If it's a Delphi default font, it can't
be customised. If it's a system default font then you can probably
tweak the associated GUI element (be it dialog or icon or menu font)
and affect it that way. But that's probably going to be a bit drastic.

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Re: word wrap

2001-03-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Daniel,

On 14 March 2001 at  20:48:15 +0100 (which was 19:48 where I  live)
Daniel Morton wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

DM Sorry for the niave question but when I past my emails in from
DM word the text just wraps after paragraphs. I don't know if then in
DM the Bat I should manually create carriage returns to make it look
DM good on my screen or send it with sentences going way off my
DM screen hoping that the recipients email program will realign it.
DM thank for any guidance.

Use Alt-L to reformat the text to fit (or Alt-J). Alternatively, update
to the latest version and use the new Paste (formatted) function.

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Re: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?

2001-03-14 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:02:18 -0500, Leo wrote these comments:

LZ Then, I realize that I could make a filter which will delete the
LZ message from server after I read it. Great - that means that I can
LZ always leave messages on server, but at home as soon as the
LZ message is marked as read, it will be deleted from server. Problem
LZ solved.

LZ However, I also have a whole bunch of filters for automatically
LZ moving mailing list mail into their corresponding folders. I
LZ notice that the Read filter seems to only work for one particular
LZ folder you specify in the filter.

That's probably because the filter rules to move the messages precede
the filter rule to delete the messages from the server in the list of
filter rules.

Once a message has been moved by a filter rule to another folder, that
message will no longer be acted on by subsequent filter rules in the
list.

I suggest that you make the server delete rule the first in your
filter list and be sure to enable in the filter rule options "continue
processing with other filters".


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Re[2]: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?

2001-03-14 Thread Leo Zelevinsky

Hello Allie, [I am sorry if that isn't your name - I have a feeling
like I saw someone else address you this way in the archives :)]

On Wednesday, March 14, 2001 at 17:08:29GMT -0500 (which was 5:08 PM where I live)
you wrote:

ACM On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:02:18 -0500, Leo wrote these comments:

LZ However, I also have a whole bunch of filters for automatically
LZ moving mailing list mail into their corresponding folders. I
LZ notice that the Read filter seems to only work for one particular
LZ folder you specify in the filter.

ACM That's probably because the filter rules to move the messages precede
ACM the filter rule to delete the messages from the server in the list of
ACM filter rules.

Well - but it has to be that way - since the filter rule to delete the
messages from the server is a "Read" filter - so it should activate
when I read the messages, which inherently happens after the messages
come in and are sorted into their respective folders.

Thus my question - is there a way to have a Read filter which will act
on messages in all folders - as opposed to what it looks like I'd have
to do now - which is to make a Read filter for every folder that mail
gets filtered into.

ACM Once a message has been moved by a filter rule to another folder, that
ACM message will no longer be acted on by subsequent filter rules in the
ACM list.

ACM I suggest that you make the server delete rule the first in your
ACM filter list and be sure to enable in the filter rule options "continue
ACM processing with other filters".

This would work if my server delete rule would be an Incoming Mail
filter - but that would basically get it back to the behavior I get
now - where as soon as I get mail, it is deleted from the server.
Instead I want it deleted from the server after I read it.

Thanks very much for your response.

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Re: Sticky send/fetch windows' positions

2001-03-14 Thread Brian Clark


Hi Marck,

@ 11:09:41 AM on 3/14/2001, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

[...]

 When this is turned on, the mail Send/Fetch percentage progress
 windows will always appear on the screen at the position to which
 you move them.

Still, one very annoying aspect of the send dialog is that if you
minimize it, it won't stay there for good. When you send out another
email, up it pops to the foreground once again. I'm getting tired of
Alt-Tab, Esc, Alt-Tab (However, I'm between 21.6 - 26.4 kbps on
dial-up).

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Re: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?

2001-03-14 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, at 17:20:40 [GMT -0500], Leo Zelevinsky wrote:

LZ Thus my question - is there a way to have a Read filter which will act
LZ on messages in all folders - as opposed to what it looks like I'd have
LZ to do now - which is to make a Read filter for every folder that mail
LZ gets filtered into.

The rules in TB! are tightly linked to specific folders. A "read"
filter would have to be created for each folder where you want that
function. You can, at least, copy a filter/rule and edit it for a
second, third etc. folder.

I think that more than just you and I would like to see filters that
pertain to all folders and can target the mail to the current folder.
By that I mean the message can start in any folder, be acted on, and
remain where it is.

Mike Yetto

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Re: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?

2001-03-14 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:20:40 -0500, Leo thoughtfully wrote the
following:

LZ Hello Allie, [I am sorry if that isn't your name - I have a
LZ feeling like I saw someone else address you this way in the
LZ archives :)]

It's my name. See my signature. :-)

ACM That's probably because the filter rules to move the messages
ACM precede the filter rule to delete the messages from the server
ACM in the list of filter rules.

LZ Well - but it has to be that way - since the filter rule to delete the
LZ messages from the server is a "Read" filter - so it should activate
LZ when I read the messages, which inherently happens after the messages
LZ come in and are sorted into their respective folders.

LZ Thus my question - is there a way to have a Read filter which will
LZ act on messages in all folders - as opposed to what it looks like
LZ I'd have to do now - which is to make a Read filter for every
LZ folder that mail gets filtered into.

With your approach, yes that's what you'd have to do to make things
work.

LZ This would work if my server delete rule would be an Incoming Mail
LZ filter - but that would basically get it back to the behavior I
LZ get now - where as soon as I get mail, it is deleted from the
LZ server. Instead I want it deleted from the server after I read it.

How about fiddling with your account mail management settings? You
could set TB! to keep messages on the server for a day or two. This
will allow you to be able to download the messages from work if you
like. TB! will not re-download messages which it has already
downloaded.

If you wish to download at work *only* those messages you have not
read at home then you have to do things your way using read filters.

To help refine this you could filter your messages initially to only a
few folders and then use read filters to move the messages to their
final destination folders after they have been read. This is probably
easier than creating a delete from server filter for each folder. It's
a pity regex support doesn't work with the source and destination
folder fields or one cannot create a filter that will automatically be
applied globally to all messages.

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Re: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?

2001-03-14 Thread Karin Spaink

On 15-03-2001 at 00:38, Mike Yetto kindly wrote:

 I think that more than just you and I would like to see filters that
 pertain to all folders and can target the mail to the current folder.
 By that I mean the message can start in any folder, be acted on, and
 remain where it is.

Seconded. Just like I would love to be able to change
standard templates in one go for all folders, instead of
needing to go through each and every folder seperately.

Tip for the developers: Agent has a nice solution for
newsgroup properties. You have "general properties" and
properties that pertain specific groups. It would for
instance be nice to be able *all* standard forwarding
templates in one go.


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Re: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?

2001-03-14 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:55:22 +0100, Karin contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

 I think that more than just you and I would like to see filters
 that pertain to all folders and can target the mail to the current
 folder. By that I mean the message can start in any folder, be
 acted on, and remain where it is.

KS Seconded. Just like I would love to be able to change
KS standard templates in one go for all folders, instead of
KS needing to go through each and every folder seperately.

Two things which may help you in this regard.

If you delete the templates from a folder, close the folder properties
and reopen them, you'll see the default templates there. These are the
templates found in the account properties. If you change the default
template properties, this will be reflected in all folders using the
default templates.

Quick templates and the %Qinclude="qt handle macro can help a lot as
well. Construct your template as a quick template and then where ever
you wish to use the  template you use the %Qinclude macro. In this
way, if you need to make changes to the template that is used by many
folders or address book entries, you do it once.

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Weird icon effects

2001-03-14 Thread Brian Clark


Hi TB!UDL,

This is just a follow up on the subject of the weird icon effects some
people were seeing (black or white instead of what one should be
seeing).

I don't know why I didn't think of this before (I don't think anyone
suggested it. If so, I apologize for the redundant post), but this
just happened to me for the first time ever. I just rebuilt the icon
cache and that fixed it.

You can do this with TweakUI (from the M$ site) or you can use this
8kb executable:

"RebIC"

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/4414/Prod_Body.html#rebic

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Handles

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Chiou

Hello TB! Wizards,

Is  there  a  way to allow multiple entries with the same handle, i.e.
multiple Joe's?

Best regards,
Peter
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Re: Handles

2001-03-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

On 15 March 2001 at  18:02:00 -0800 (which was 02:02 where I  live)
Peter Chiou wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

PC Is  there  a  way to allow multiple entries with the same handle, i.e.
PC multiple Joe's?

What would you want to do that for? (Just wondering).

The handle is a *unique* identifier for the record so the simple (and
by definition) answer is no, it can't be done.

You can have multiple entries with the first name of "Joe". You can
have multiple entries across different address books with the same
handle, but that's not what you're asking about.

What would be the advantage of having the same handle? The only thing
that I can think you might be doing is using %ABxxxHANDLE in a generic
template for forming a greeting line. In which case you can just as
easily use %ABxxxFIRSTNAME or even hide the "friendly" name in another
AB field that you're not using, like the Memo or Middle name field and
then use %ABxxxMEMO or %ABxxxMIDDLENAME to get at it.

I can think of no other reason why you would need to duplicate the
"unique handle" for an address book entry.

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Re: Mailticker and Screenreader

2001-03-14 Thread Thomas

Hi Krister,

On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:59:23 +0100GMT (14/03/2001, 23:59 +0800GMT),
Krister Ekstrom wrote:

KE Maybe. Another thing would be to present a dialog the first time the
KE program was ever run and in this dialog you could have an option to
KE turn the mailticker off.

That's even better. One question when installing (upon first setup):
"Do you want to use the Mailticker?" Default could be YES, but a
remark: "Will interfer with screenreaders. We suggest to turn this
feature off if you use a screenreader." will make it clear.

Unless I get more suggestions, I will hand this in to Dieter, who will
go to Moldavia next week. I will also ask on the German list.

KE I didn't personally have problems with the system freezing, but it
KE sure got very hard to read when the mailticker was enabled.

Are you still using Jaws? Which version?

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Re[3]: Not receiving msg 's with attachement

2001-03-14 Thread OK3

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Wednesday, March 14, 2001, Aad Teijl wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
Not receiving msg 's with attachement:

AT That's  the problem it's not the connection that breaks, if I have
AT say  30  msg's  and  the first 10 are text msg's they come happily
AT running  in,  but  the  next  msg  which has an attachement starts
AT downloading  and  when  it's  almost  ready  it  quits  and  stops
AT receiving  at  all,  next  step: I look at the server and skip the
AT particular file and start again all msg's come in until there is a
AT next   msg  with  attachement  and  the  same  happens,  I  didn't
AT experience  this  with  version  1.49 and if I then use OE they do
AT come in normal but I don't like OE and don't want to use it!

Set 'keep messages on serfer for 0 days' or use Message Dispatcher.

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