Re: The wish list (was: Auto-expand messages lists ?)

[Brian Clark]

Hi Karin,

@ 7:50:48 AM on 5/3/2001, Karin Spaink wrote:

...
KS> It's still there: http://www.konstantin-online.de/bat/

And there I was asking about that a few months ago. The link was
broken in the FAQ, so many of us just assumed it'd vanished. :)

I hope the authors are still(?) using it.

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Re: Feature Request

[Brian Clark]

Hi Thomas,

@ 12:02:04 AM on 5/4/2001, Thomas wrote:

...
T> Quite some people have requested this feature, and shall be
T> introduced at one time or another. We think. ;-)

According to the authors, they say it won't (can't?) be done. But I
really wish it could. I asked for this same feature a few weeks ago.
:(

JP>> The Bat! is awesome. 

T> It is, isn't it?

Very much so!

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Re[2]: I am looking for a Dutch Interface Language file

[Cilfa]

> found it ; http://www.mml.nsi.ru/~alovetski/
> but all it does is extract and build .LNG files with your own selections,
> not manipulate/translate the content ...

Thanks, but when I try that program, it only extracts the languages
that are already _in_ the .LNG file (the "int" file I downloaded from
the Ritlabs site), and so no Dutch :(

Cilfa

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Re: Feature Request

[Thomas]

Hi James,

On Thu, 03 May 2001 14:10:29 -0400GMT (04/05/2001, 02:10 +0800GMT),
James Perry wrote:

JP> In some *other* email packages I use, there are options to set multiple
JP> colors for the different levels of quotes in a message, i.e.,

Quite some people have requested this feature, and shall be introduced
at one time or another. We think. ;-)

JP> The Bat! is awesome. 

It is, isn't it?

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Re: Losing imported messages?

[Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)]

Hello!


Thursday, May 03, 2001, 7:37:50 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



MDP> Yes. I reported this bug recently and some fixes have been introduced
MDP> for it in the latest beta versions.

MDP> To get round the problem try the following:

MDP> 1). Import the 4 folders.
MDP> 2). Exit TB  (to save the new folder config).
MDP> 3). Open TB
MDP> 4). Move the folders
MDP> 5). Exit TB  (to save the changed folder config).
MDP> 6). Open TB

MDP> This sequence should keep the new layout intact. It's importing and
MDP> moving in one hit that causes the problem I think.

Hmmm... So does it mean that we should worry about every folder move
(up/down or as child/parent) operation?


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Re: How to block unwanted senders

[Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)]

Hello!


Thursday, May 03, 2001, 6:53:56 PM, jsvrp.gw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



jg> The problem also is that *spammers* use different e-mail addresses
jg> every time to send their *spam*. So some *spam* will always come
jg> through.

If you haven't access to your SMTP server configuration (especially to
the so-called "blacklist") and you don't or cannot use procmail then you
can filter out the most offending spammers not by the e-mail addresses
they have used (and forged) but by blocking the IP address or hostname
of the message originator.


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Re: How to block unwanted senders

[Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)]

Hello!


Thursday, May 03, 2001, 2:32:10 PM, A Curtis Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 - Is it possible to automatically remove mail from blocked senders
 already on the server, before downloading it to the client software?

ACM>  «--snip--»
OG>> Cannot this be done automatic by checking delete mail on server on the
OG>> action tab in the filter?

ACM> No. What that option does is mark the message for deletion from the
ACM> server on your next POP check for messages.

Are you sure? If we're speaking in POP3 protocol terms then two separate
(and probably consequent) POP sessions cannot share some data on the
server side. If your MUA has issued a DELE  command then
the message(s) marked will be actually deleted by processing the QUIT
command or the deletion flag will be reset by the RSET command.

If we're talking about the client side (MUA) then you're right.


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Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together

[Sergey Kovalyov]

Hello Paula,

Saturday, April 28, 2001, 9:02:14 PM, you wrote:

P> My basic problem is that I subscribe to both a lot of mailing lists
P> and  a  lot of newsgroups dealing with the same subjects related to
P> computing.  I  save  a lot of messages from both sources for future
P> reference.  Retrieving  the  information,  though,  is  clunky with
P> having  to  search  both  sources  separately and not being able to
P> categorize  the  newsgroup  messages at all. And, I'm just tired of
P> having information scattered all over the place.

P> So, I was thinking that I might switch to using Agent for both
P> newsgroups and mailing lists, keeping The Bat! for non-mailing list use,
P> but that would be a kludgy workaround. I'd rather find a way to get my
P> newsgroups messages into The Bat! So, I was wondering if anyone knows of
P> a news reader that would let me save out messages in a format that I
P> could import into The Bat!? Or, is it a totally goofy idea?

As for bringing together Mail and News -- try MailNavigator: www.mailnavigator.com.
MailNavigator  is  for  operation  with  e-mail  and  usenet  news. It
definitely works with TB! and Agent (it's my XP).


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Re[2]: Windows XP problems

[Daniel Seiden]

Hello,

NA> But isn't XP still a Beta OS? I would think the problem is most likely due
NA> to that, than TB!

I would guess that it may be a problem when the final version comes
out as well. This is the only program that I am having this problem
with. I am mostly wondering if anyone has found the cause of this
problem of a workaround for it.

Dan
BasicLink, Inc.

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Re: How to wrap quote reply message

[Nick Andriash]

On May 3, 2001, at 3:22:04 PM, Deniz Baygan wrote:

DB> in templates/reply,

DB> change %Quotes to:  %WRAPPED="%Quotes"

and also realize that the above Macro only works for the first
paragraph.

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Re: Windows XP problems

[Nick Andriash]

On May 3, 2001, at 3:52:43 PM, Daniel Seiden wrote:

DS> I love TB but this is a bit anoying..

But isn't XP still a Beta OS? I would think the problem is most likely due
to that, than TB!

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Windows XP problems

[Daniel Seiden]

Hello,

Just installed Windows XP a month or so ago and have been having
problems with the account settings vanishing. I read that at least one
other person was having the same problem but I was wondering if there
has been a solution to this.

When I went to the properties as one person had suggested I do not see
the security settings that are in Win2k. I am wondering if there is
anything that can be done.

I love TB but this is a bit anoying..

Dan
BasicLink, Inc.

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Re: How to wrap quote reply message

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Dear Aza,

03.05.2001, 20:41, you wrote:
> Hello,
> I want to know how TB! wrap quote at reply message ?

> on  'edit  mail  message' window I try to check Searc-Autowrap,
> but it did not work.

in templates/reply,

change %Quotes to:  %WRAPPED="%Quotes"

BTW, "%wrapped" only works on greater TB!1.47.

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OT: XNews <-> Free Agent

[Sir Jinx!]

Sorry  for  the  OT, but someone [I think Paula] asked if XNews is a
off-line  newsreader.  Well,  I  DL yesterday XN, and unfortunately,
it's  not:(  Even more, the author himself recommends Free Agent, or
Gravity, to everyone that needs an off-line newsreader. So, XNews is
_not_ an alternative for many of us from Europe that pay Internet by
the hour.

Dejan
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Re: Funny but true story!

[j. allen r. day]

I  have  a similar SPAM filter, with more-or-less the same rule--
however,  I  have  it  deliver  the messages into a folder called
"SPAM" -- messages in this folder are only allowed a life span of
a  day  or  two  --  so,  I  can go through the folder and see if
anything  was  intercepted  that shouldn't be - but don't have to
bother deleting everything in it manually.

j.

GD> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1


GD> Hello Bat! folk!

GD> I just thought I'd share a humorous story with you all in the hopes
GD> that some people will not make the mistake I did.

GD> I, and probably everyone else on this planet, despises spam. I know it
GD> is not possible to get rid of it completely but there are some steps
GD> that you can take to get rid of at least SOME of it.

GD> What did I do? I made a handy-dandy filter whose rules were:

GD> - - Monitor the Inbox for message that do NOT have my e-mail address
GD> anywhere in the message and send it immediately to the trash can,
GD> setting the READ flag in the process.

GD> Sounds good so far? I thought so too! Here's the funny part. I put my
GD> new SPAM filter at the top of ALL my other filters so that it was the
GD> first filter to run. Don't get the joke yet? Well, I am addicted to
GD> this e-mail list as well as several others.  An hour or more
GD> goes by and I don't have a single new message for ANY of the lists
GD> that I subscribe to, yet, I keep hearing the "ding" from the Bat!
GD> saying I got new mail. Hey, my new filter must be really hauling away
GD> the "trash"!

GD> Yep, ALL of my lists e-mail was being sent directly to the trash bin
GD> because the messages do not contain my e-mail address! Doh!

GD> So, I slid my new "SPAM" filter below the list filters that move the
GD> mail to their associated folders.  All is well!

GD> So, the moral of this story is that to create filters is good, but to
GD> put the filter in the appropriate order is even better!

GD> Have a great day! :-)

GD> - --
GD> Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195
GD> Service Pack 1

GD> Best regards,
GD>  Gerry Doyon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: I am looking for a Dutch Interface Language file

[Rob]

Hello all,

on Thu, 3 May 2001, at 00:24:14 local time (GMT +0200), Rob wrote:

> can't remember if it also let you make and add translations ... and i can't
> find the URL :-(

found it ; http://www.mml.nsi.ru/~alovetski/
but all it does is extract and build .LNG files with your own selections,
not manipulate/translate the content ...

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TB! v1.52 Beta/12 - Nothing to Print

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hello TBUDListers.

   I am getting the "Nothing to Print" error even though I have a
   msg in the outbox. (No it is not saved as a draft). Eventually
   the msg is sent but it seems to happen on some hidden schedule. I
   have a copy of all outgoing msgs sent to a CD.

   Any thoughts on this situation, Bat mavens?

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Re: Funny but true story!

[Gerry Doyon]

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Hello Nick,

Thursday, May 03, 2001, 3:01:07 PM, you wrote:

GD>> So, I slid my new "SPAM" filter below the list filters that move the
GD>> mail to their associated folders.  All is well!

NA> Gerry, that spam filter should be the very last filter in your list, with
NA> the second last being a filter actually looking for your address, in which
NA> case it gets dropped in your Inbox. Basically then, all messages will be
NA> filtered according to the filters you have setup, and those that make it
NA> to the end without being filtered but have your address in the To: line,
NA> will be put in your Inbox: Those that do not, will be handled as per your
NA> spam filter.

Good point, Nick.  I have "made it so!"  Thanks!

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Re: Psion (was: Re: The wish list (was: Auto-expand messages lists ?))

[David Elliott]

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Hail Jeroen

On 03 May 2001 at 16:42:04 +0200 (which was 15:42 where I live) Jeroen
wrote

> Is there no other way to synchronize with the Psion from out of the
> Bat(maybe with a third party application)?

If there is I would like to know about it.

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Re: Funny but true story!

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On May 3, 2001, at 8:24:57 AM, Gerry Doyon wrote:

GD> So, I slid my new "SPAM" filter below the list filters that move the
GD> mail to their associated folders.  All is well!

Gerry, that spam filter should be the very last filter in your list, with
the second last being a filter actually looking for your address, in which
case it gets dropped in your Inbox. Basically then, all messages will be
filtered according to the filters you have setup, and those that make it
to the end without being filtered but have your address in the To: line,
will be put in your Inbox: Those that do not, will be handled as per your
spam filter.

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How to wrap quote reply message

[Aza Lsaja]

Hello,
I want to know how TB! wrap quote at reply message ?

on  'edit  mail  message' window I try to check Searc-Autowrap,
but it did not work.

TIA
aza ls

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Feature Request

[James Perry]

Sorry, the last post was a feature request (I left it subject-less)


In some *other* email packages I use, there are options to set multiple
colors for the different levels of quotes in a message, i.e.,

> this quote would be one color
>> this quote would be another color
>>> yet another color etc. etc.

Would it be possible to consider adding multiple color quote levels it
makes some messages MUCH easier to read. Especially the mail-list type
messages.



The Bat! is awesome. 


Thanx,
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(No Subject)

[James Perry]

In some *other* email packages I use, there are options to set multiple
colors for the different levels of quotes in a message, i.e.,

> this quote would be one color
>> this quote would be another color
>>> yet another color etc. etc.

Would it be possible to consider adding multiple color quote levels it
makes some messages MUCH easier to read. Especially the mail-list type
messages.



The Bat! is awesome. 


Thanx,
-jp

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Re: Funny but true story!

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

On Thursday, May 03, 2001, Gerry Doyon wrote:

> So, I slid my new "SPAM" filter below the list filters that move the
> mail to their associated folders.  All is well!

> So, the moral of this story is that to create filters is good, but to
> put the filter in the appropriate order is even better!

And don't forget that there might be senders that BCCed you. Those need
to be caught before your spam filter strikes.

Regards,

Markus

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Re: Losing imported messages?

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Kitty,

On 03 May 2001 at  10:03:38 -0500 (which was 16:03 where I  live)
Kitty wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

K> So, I imported the messages again.  Again, they were fine.  I put the
K> messages in a folder with 4 sub-folders.  I then moved the folder
K> (with the four subfolders) to be inside of another sub-folder.
K> Everything worked fine.

K> I shut down my computer last night (it is a notebook I use daily).
K> Now the messages are gone again.

K> Any thoughts on what is going on?  Obviously the messages are getting
K> deleted when I shut my computer down but I don't know why.

Yes. I reported this bug recently and some fixes have been introduced
for it in the latest beta versions.

To get round the problem try the following:

1). Import the 4 folders.
2). Exit TB  (to save the new folder config).
3). Open TB
4). Move the folders
5). Exit TB  (to save the changed folder config).
6). Open TB

This sequence should keep the new layout intact. It's importing and
moving in one hit that causes the problem I think.

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Re: Losing imported messages?

[jsvrp.gw]

Hello Kitty,

Thursday, May 03, 2001, 5:03:38 PM, you wrote:

K> Any thoughts on what is going on?  Obviously the messages are getting
K> deleted when I shut my computer down but I don't know why.

Did  you  checked the (sub)folder properties, if there are no purge options
set?  Maybe a good idea to compare it with other folders.

Did  you  also checked the real directory structure on your HD? A week
ago  I  was  playing  with  a  folder  that I by accident had set to a
non-default  path.  So I changed it that  back  to  default and after
restartingTheBat,  *all* my folders were empty.

After taking a deep   breath   I   found  out  that  The  Bat  had   moved  all  the
folders/messages  (incl.   inbox,  outbox)  to  the  sub folder  (on my
hard disk)  where  I  had  changed the properties. When I moved all the
folders  back to the root of my account (in explorer) and restarted The Bat! all was
fine,  except  the mentioned sub folder who was empty, although it was
available  on my hard disk.

The solution was to delete the sub folder in The Bat! and recreate it and all was fine 
:-).

Do   a  copy  of  the folder tree in explorer before you start to play
with it.

Hopefully my experience can be helpful for you.

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Funny but true story!

[Gerry Doyon]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hello Bat! folk!

I just thought I'd share a humorous story with you all in the hopes
that some people will not make the mistake I did.

I, and probably everyone else on this planet, despises spam. I know it
is not possible to get rid of it completely but there are some steps
that you can take to get rid of at least SOME of it.

What did I do? I made a handy-dandy filter whose rules were:

- - Monitor the Inbox for message that do NOT have my e-mail address
anywhere in the message and send it immediately to the trash can,
setting the READ flag in the process.

Sounds good so far? I thought so too! Here's the funny part. I put my
new SPAM filter at the top of ALL my other filters so that it was the
first filter to run. Don't get the joke yet? Well, I am addicted to
this e-mail list as well as several others.  An hour or more
goes by and I don't have a single new message for ANY of the lists
that I subscribe to, yet, I keep hearing the "ding" from the Bat!
saying I got new mail. Hey, my new filter must be really hauling away
the "trash"!

Yep, ALL of my lists e-mail was being sent directly to the trash bin
because the messages do not contain my e-mail address! Doh!

So, I slid my new "SPAM" filter below the list filters that move the
mail to their associated folders.  All is well!

So, the moral of this story is that to create filters is good, but to
put the filter in the appropriate order is even better!

Have a great day! :-)

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Losing imported messages?

[Kitty]

I've been using TB for almost a year.  On Monday, I imported 4
folders of messages from Outlook Express. These were archives of a
mailing list that someone using Outlook Express had saved.  She sent
me 4 zipped files with the messages in Outlook Express.  I unzipped
the files then imported into 4 sub-folder in TB.  I looked at the
messages and they were fine and I did some work with them Monday.
I then moved all 4 folders into another folder.


Well, yesterday, I went to look at some of the messages and the
messages weren't there.  I looked around the 4 folders (which I had
moved) were back where I had moved them from, but the folders were
empty.  I tried to browse deleted messages and nothing was there.

So, I imported the messages again.  Again, they were fine.  I put the
messages in a folder with 4 sub-folders.  I then moved the folder
(with the four subfolders) to be inside of another sub-folder.
Everything worked fine.

I shut down my computer last night (it is a notebook I use daily).
Now the messages are gone again.

Any thoughts on what is going on?  Obviously the messages are getting
deleted when I shut my computer down but I don't know why.


  

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Re[3]: How to block unwanted senders

[jsvrp.gw]

Hello Silviu,

Thursday, May 03, 2001, 2:22:43 PM, you wrote:
SC>> As someone suggested on this list, and he was right, using the
SC>> selective download filters could be a large time consuming
SC>> operation. 
O> Yes.  That is the reason for my answer for first question. I don't use
O> selective  download  filters, I use complains to sender's provider and
O> do not have problems.

It really is no problem for me. When you have a connection faster than
ISDN   (64k)   The Bat is very fast with downloading the headers. Okay
when  you  receive  300  messages per day, it could be problem. On the
other  hand,  when you receive a great amount of messages and you have
to  filter  them and move them to your trash folder, it will also take
some time.

I think complaining to the sender's provider and do a selective download
will  be  the  best  solution. The problem also is that *spammers* use
different   e-mail  addresses every time to send their *spam*. So some
*spam* will always come through.

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Psion (was: Re: The wish list (was: Auto-expand messages lists ?))

[jsvrp.gw]

Hello,

Thursday, May 03, 2001, 1:50:48 PM, you wrote:

OM>>> Where could I : a) read the current wish list,

>> Must be a trade secret. We only remember what is in there, because
>> people usually announce this here. There used to be a wish list at
>> konstantine-online.de or so, I don't know whether it still exists.

KS> It's still there: http://www.konstantin-online.de/bat/

http://www.konstantin-online.de/bat/>
"Psion/EPOC  Integration / 22nd April 2000 / Can't synchronise with my Psion contacts 
list. /
 Not something I would expect to be a part of The Bat. But, I'd pay if
 someone did one."
 
 The above field was part of the wish list. I have a question though:

 My   father  was  totally surprised when he saw the Bat! on my PC. He
 became almost  a Bat user, until he asked me if it could be synchronised with the
 Psion.  I  said  no, but is there no other way to synchronize with the
 Psion from out of the Bat(maybe with a third party application)?
 





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Re: How to block unwanted senders

[Ben Mills]

Thursday, May 03, 2001, 4:35:19 AM, you wrote:

AV> The Bat! 1.51, OS Windows 2000

AV> Dear List:

AV> I'm new to The Bat! - so probably a Newbie question:

AV> I often receive unwanted mail from senders that I would like to block
AV> completely.

AV> - How can I do this most effectively?

That's a tough one..

AV> - Is it possible to automatically remove mail from blocked senders
AV> already on the server, before downloading it to the client software?

If you have control of your server...it can easily be done from there.
I have entire countries, ( hk, jp) blocked due to the amount of spam
they generate.





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Re[2]: How to block unwanted senders

[OK3]

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Thursday, May 03, 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
How to block unwanted senders:

AV>>> -  Is  it  possible  to  automatically  remove mail from blocked
AV>>> senders  already  on  the  server,  before downloading it to the
AV>>> client software?
>> Yes. Look at Selective Download filters.

SC> As someone suggested on this list, and he was right, using the
SC> selective download filters could be a large time consuming
SC> operation. 

Yes.  That is the reason for my answer for first question. I don't use
selective  download  filters, I use complains to sender's provider and
do not have problems.

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Re: How to block unwanted senders

[Silviu Cojocaru]

Thursday, May 03, 2001, 12:04:59 PM, OK3 wrote:

AV>> - Is it possible to automatically remove mail from blocked senders
AV>> already on the server, before downloading it to the client software?
> Yes. Look at Selective Download filters.

As someone suggested on this list, and he was right, using the
selective download filters could be a large time consuming
operation. It involves retrieving all the message headers first
and then download only the ones that have passed the filtering.
On a volume of 200-300 emails a day, this could take a LOT of
time.

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The wish list (was: Auto-expand messages lists ?)

[Karin Spaink]

On 03-05-2001 at 10:39, Thomas kindly wrote:
> Olivier Mascia wrote:

OM>> Where could I : a) read the current wish list,

> Must be a trade secret. We only remember what is in there, because
> people usually announce this here. There used to be a wish list at
> konstantine-online.de or so, I don't know whether it still exists.

It's still there: http://www.konstantin-online.de/bat/



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Re: Step-by-step for moving TB

[Karin Spaink]

On 03-05-2001 at 06:40, Jan Rifkinson kindly wrote:
> Hi Jason,

Jason>> I bought the new computer from Dell and
Jason>> everything was pre-installed,

>   Having gone thru the same process myself on a new Dell I strongly
>   suggest you have tech support point you to the Dell document that
>   lists & describes all the loaded programs/products that startup
>   automatically, then dump more than half of those that you won't
>   need. This cleans up the machine considerably, speeds it up &
>   reduces a lot of lockups/crashes, etc.

Plus: be *very* sure to make good backups. If something
crashes and you need to reinstall, the Dell recovery CD will
simply create a clean system. Oops. All data gone.


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Re: How to block unwanted senders

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Thu, 3 May 2001 11:48:50 +0200, Ottar wrote these words of wisdom:

>>> - Is it possible to automatically remove mail from blocked senders
>>> already on the server, before downloading it to the client software?

 «--snip--»
OG> Cannot this be done automatic by checking delete mail on server on the
OG> action tab in the filter?

No. What that option does is mark the message for deletion from the server
on your next POP check for messages. This is a useful action only for
those who normally leave messages on the server after download and wish to
delete particular messages automatically.

©Allie
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Re[2]: How to block unwanted senders

[Ottar Grimstad]

Hello Dierk,

Thursday, May 03, 2001, 11:12:39 AM, you wrote:

>> - Is it possible to automatically remove mail from blocked senders
>> already on the server, before downloading it to the client software?

DH> One way would be to ask the ISP to incorporate some filtering system
DH> (as does GMX, and not that bad).

DH> Another would be manual: Use the Mail Dispatcher of TB! to delete
DH> messages directly on the server without d'l them.

Cannot this be done automatic by checking delete mail
on server on the action tab in the filter?



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Re: How to block unwanted senders

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Hello Andreas!

On Thursday, May 03, 2001 at 10:35:19 AM you wrote:

> I often receive unwanted mail from senders that I would like to block
> completely.

After d'l to your machine, TB! can automatically filter them directly
into the Trash folder.

> - Is it possible to automatically remove mail from blocked senders
> already on the server, before downloading it to the client software?

One way would be to ask the ISP to incorporate some filtering system
(as does GMX, and not that bad).

Another would be manual: Use the Mail Dispatcher of TB! to delete
messages directly on the server without d'l them.


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Re: Step-by-step for moving TB

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Jason,

On Thursday, May 03, 2001 at 4:51:42 AM you wrote:

*hmmm* not done this with your kind of moving, but I had moved my main (job)
mail-account from my notebook to my desktop ... that was kind of easy.

Installed TB! on the second computer as normal. Used "Tools" / "Backup" at the
original TB!-installation, marked ALL checkboxes (including "Store attachments
..."), did the backup, on the secondary computer I did a restore et voila ...
everything INCLUDING my filters was where it needs to be :-)
A lot of settings came across the backup/restore, all filters, all mails, all
attachments ... EVERYTHING I needed :-)

I'd say: give it a try, use the new computer parallel to the old one and if
something does not work properly ... ask again with a detailed description of
the specific problem ...

Hope you have no problems transferring your accounts.
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Re: How to block unwanted senders

[OK3]

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Thursday, May 03, 2001, Andreas Völp wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
How to block unwanted senders:

AV> - How can I do this most effectively?
Complain to sender's provider.

AV> - Is it possible to automatically remove mail from blocked senders
AV> already on the server, before downloading it to the client software?
Yes. Look at Selective Download filters.

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Re: Auto-expand messages lists ?

[Thomas]

Hi Olivier,

On Thu, 3 May 2001 08:07:55 +0200GMT (03/05/2001, 14:07 +0800GMT),
Olivier Mascia wrote:

OM> Where could I : a) read the current wish list,

Must be a trade secret. We only remember what is in there, because
people usually announce this here. There used to be a wish list at
konstantine-online.de or so, I don't know whether it still exists.

OM>  b) submit suggestions ?

Main menu: Help / Feedback / Suggestions.

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How to block unwanted senders

[Andreas Völp]

The Bat! 1.51, OS Windows 2000

Dear List:

I'm new to The Bat! - so probably a Newbie question:

I often receive unwanted mail from senders that I would like to block
completely.

- How can I do this most effectively?

- Is it possible to automatically remove mail from blocked senders
already on the server, before downloading it to the client software?

Regards,
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