Re: Need a solution

[Thomas F]

Hi Raj,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:38:48 +0530GMT (21/06/01, 11:08 +0800GMT),
Raj wrote:

R> I  want  to  set  up  a  filter  where  in  the  'Action'  is  to  forward  the  
mail  to
R> the Mailing List software ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I did set it up, but the 
reply to
R> path is still my e-mail id and not that of the subscriber. Hence the confirmation 
requests
R> come back to me instead of going to the subscriber.

In the forward template, use:
%From="" %From=%OFromAddr %Reply-To="" %Reply-To=%OFromAddr

This will work only if your SMTP server allows the message through,
though.

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Need a solution

[Raj]

Hi All,

I  have  a particular problem to be resolved. I know TB has the capability to do the 
same.
Just not able to figure out how it could be done. Any help will be sincerely 
appreciated.

Here goes.

I  have  my  web  site (on a shared basis) where visitors can submit their e-mail id 
for a
service. The server has a mailing list software.

Recently  the server was shifted and I have been having problems updating the mailing 
list
directly  from  the  site.  The  real  techies  have been at it for some time w/o 
success.

However  I can still update the mailing list if I am able to send an e-mail to the 
Mailing
List  (some  thing  like  [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Here th e-mail must be sent by 
the
subscriber (i.e. the From & reply to must have the subscribers e-mail id)

My  site  sends  me  a short mail whenever a new subscriber joins. This e-mail comes 
to me
with the subscribers e-mail id in the 'from'.

Here is what I want to do.

I  want  to  set  up  a  filter  where  in  the  'Action'  is  to  forward  the  mail  
to
the Mailing List software ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I did set it up, but the 
reply to
path is still my e-mail id and not that of the subscriber. Hence the confirmation 
requests
come back to me instead of going to the subscriber.

Another  alternative  is using the Reply action of the filter. But here I am unable to 
set
the correct Reply to parameters.

The  e-mail  body  which I get also contains the e-mail id. Is there any way I can 
pick up
this id from the text body.

Thanking you in anticipation.

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Re: TB! V1.53bis - virus report

[Thomas F]

Hi Marck,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:46:15 +0100GMT (21/06/2001, 09:46 +0800GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

JR>>   The following was logged by PC-Cillin Anti-Virus program on my
JR>>   machine:

JR>> 18:50:42,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat157.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable to 
clean. Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan

I had exactly the same today (again).

MDP> 1) You're safe. This virus has to be executed to infect you. Saving it
MDP>to disk won't hurt.

PC-Cillin won't allow to save it. ;-)

MDP> 2) You may be in a loop. You have been sent the virus. TB is receiving
MDP>the infected file.

No, it is not a loop. If you have "automatic check every xxx minutes"
set, then you will get this message each time TB tries to download the
infected message. In my case, every 5 minutes.

MDP> 4) This may force TB to try and get the message again and fail to
MDP>complete the download each time.

Exactly.

In order to stop this error message from occurring and the PC-Cillin
warning to pop up, you need to delete the message direclty on the
server. You can do it with TB's own message despatcher (untick
"receive", but tick "delete"), or pine, or the web interface if your
provider offers one. The problem is that neither PC-Cillin nor TB tell
you which account this infected file is on, and you have to check your
account logs for this error message:

!21/06/2001, 10:37:31: FETCH - [Inbox] could not store message (file name - 
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\bat5122.TMP)

You still don't know which email it is, so if there are many on the
server, you will have to go looking.

Of course, you could also disable PC-Cillin and download the infected
file. As long as you don't run it, you are safe.

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Re: Backing up?

[Thomas F]

Hi Richard,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:53:58 +0100GMT (21/06/2001, 07:53 +0800GMT),
Richard Lane wrote:

RL> Do I just need to copy across the entire C:\Program Files\The Bat!
RL> directory and contents and copy these back?

That one and the registry key HKCU / Software / RIT and you're done.

Without that registry key, you loose a lot of your settings, as well
as your registration. So, if you didn't back up the registry key but
have a hard copy of your TB registration, all you need to do is type
in the registration by hand (Help / Registration) and adjust settings
(such as windows sizes etc).

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Re: Sending Problems

[Thomas F]

Hi Jason,

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:19:24 -0500GMT (20/06/2001, 21:19 +0800GMT),
Jason Hannah wrote:

JH>  I have The Bat 1.53bis, and when I send any mail that is bigger than
JH>  1.4Kb, it gets stuck and won't send.  I know that it's not my mail
JH>  provider, because I've sent the same exact email with another program
JH>  just to test it.  The progress bar on the connection centre window
JH>  will say something like "Transfer: [2,228 bytes / 2,227 bytes]", which
JH>  but then it will hang there, and the message does NOT get sent.

Let me ask you three questions:

1.) How much RAM do you have?

2.) Under Account / Properties / Fuiles & directories, did you or did
you not activate the radio button for "Bind Attachments only when
sending out"?

3.) Do you hit "Send the letter" when you finish typing? In that case,
try to "Put letter in Outbox" and send from there.

I assume that TB is trying to load the whole message (with attachment)
into RAM. I don't know whether questions 2 has anything to do with it,
though.

TB is able to send message with very big attachments - somebody just
posted a screenshot of a successful sending of an attachment with over
200MB (200 meg) on one of the TB lists a few days ago.

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Re: TB! V1.53bis - virus report

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Jan,

On 21 June 2001 at  20:04:44 -0400 (which was 01:04 where I live)  Jan
Rifkinson wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

JR>   The following was logged by PC-Cillin Anti-Virus program on my
JR>   machine:

JR> 18:50:42,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat157.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable to 
clean. Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan

JR>   Any guidance?

1) You're safe. This virus has to be executed to infect you. Saving it
   to disk won't hurt.
2) You may be in a loop. You have been sent the virus. TB is receiving
   the infected file.
3) As TB writes the infection into a temporary file, PC-Cillin is
   locking the file out.
4) This may force TB to try and get the message again and fail to
   complete the download each time.
5) You are safe, even if PC-Cillin didn't lock the file because TB
   won't run it automatically and you've had the heads up not to run
   any attachments.

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Re: Delete key broken

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Hi Rainer,

On 21 June 2001 at  01:24:44 +0200 (which was 00:24 where I live)
Rainer Bauer wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

RB> Any ideas?

Yes - Check editor preferences and turn off "Persistent blocks" and on
"Overwrite blocks".

RB> P.s: a little bit offtopic: who is responsible for the unofficial
RB> FAQ? I dont want to offend anybody, but I think that the
RB> navigation of that side is very bad. Why is not a plain HTML code
RB> used? Takes ages to load an the information.

It's only a few kb larger than the original FAQ (I changed it to this
method recently) but a lot easier to maintain and add bits to. We're
working on an update to the display method to make it handle
drill-down a bit better and I'm considering offering an off-line copy
for download.

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Re: Delete key broken

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Rainer,

Historians believe that Thu, 21 Jun 2001 at 01:24 GMT +0200 was when,
Rainer Bauer [RB] typed the following:

RB> The delete key works well in all other applications.

RB> I do not exclude the posibility, that I have changed some settings,
RB> but I cannot remember what could be the cause. I have check all the
RB> options - nothing.

 Check Options -> Editor Preferences.  What are your Settings for
 Blocks?  Mine are:

 _ - Persistant Blocks
 X - Overwrite Blocks

 This works for me.

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Backing up?

[Richard Lane]

Hello Tbudl,

  Apologies if this has been asked before, but I haven't had the time to
  follow this list too closely in recent months.

  As I get mailing list mails from 5 ISP accounts and around 400 mails a day
  from 27 lists. I have a lot of mail that I need to refer back to, which
  isn't a problem as the Bat seems to handle folders with several hundreds
  sometimes several thousand, in each with ease.

  A few weeks ago I had a bit of a hard disk disaster and lost the lot, so I
  had to install and configure everything from scratch and of course I lost
  all of the mails. Now that I have a 40gig secondary backup drive I need to
  know the best way and what parts I should copy across and how to quickly
  restore things should a similar situation arise in the future. Do I just
  need to copy across the entire C:\Program Files\The Bat! directory and
  contents and copy these back?

  TIA.

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TB! V1.53bis - virus report

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello TBUDListers.

  The following was logged by PC-Cillin Anti-Virus program on my
  machine:

Detected Virus List
Time,Infected File Name,Virus Name,Action on Virus,User Name,Scan Type
19:59:26,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat17F.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable to clean. 
Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan
19:20:41,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat165.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable to clean. 
Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan
19:10:40,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat161.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable to clean. 
Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan
19:00:42,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat15C.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable to clean. 
Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan
18:50:42,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat157.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable to clean. 
Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan

  Any guidance?

  TIA

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Delete key broken

[Rainer Bauer]

Hi all,

first of all I have to say that I am pretty amazed how active this
list is. I am using TB for 2 years now, but only recently I started to
use more sophisticated features (due to more work ,-). And only a week
ago I subscribed to this list and now there are more than 300 messages
...



So here's the problem:

The delete key doesnt work any more!

When I select text in message editor and press the delete key, nothing
happens. Ctrl-x still works.

The delete key works well in all other applications.

I do not exclude the posibility, that I have changed some settings,
but I cannot remember what could be the cause. I have check all the
options - nothing.

The problem started with the bis version and is still present in the
'd version.

Any ideas?

P.s: a little bit offtopic: who is responsible for the unofficial FAQ?
I dont want to offend anybody, but I think that the navigation of that
side is very bad. Why is not a plain HTML code used? Takes ages to
load an the information.

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Re:Clean up in reply: macros...

[--pb]

Bonjour Chema,


On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 22:36:16 +0200 GMT -- which was 16:36 where I
live -- Chema Berian wrote:

CB> Apart  the  fact  the  correct  list  for  this  kind  of questions is
CB> TBTECH... I cannot figure any cause to send your question tree times.

I am sorry, the reason is that I received an empty message, I thought
that for some unknown reason, the message never made it and bounced
back. Obviouly not!

Sorry to all of you, and thanks for those who replied!


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Re[2]: Deleting messages?

[John Hamnett]

Hello Januk,

Thank's for the reply, it give's me something to work with..

Wednesday, June 20, 2001, 4:59:29 AM, you wrote:

JA> Hello John,

JA> Historians believe that Wed, 20 Jun 2001 at 02:23 GMT +0100 was when,
JA> John Hamnett [JH] typed the following:

JH>>   How do i delete all read messages at shutdown without removing any unread
JH>>   messages.




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Hi Dirk,

On 20 June 2001 at  22:20:42 +0200 (which was 21:20 where I live)
Dirk Heiser wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

DH> %QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?i)\A(.*?)--- Vortex Diehards\nWebsite 
http://www.VortexDiehards.com\nclan forum password: x"%REGEXPMATCH="%TEXT"'

Oops! I misunderstood the begin/end line syntax. Ignore my offering.

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Re: Configuring TB! to Load w/ certain View Folder Windows Open

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:54:48 -0600, Douglas graced us with these comments:
...
DH> Can TB! be configured to load w/ certain View Folder windows open?
DH> There are a number of Folders I always want on view.

Unfortunately no. This can't be done.

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Re: Clean up in reply: macros...

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Hi --pb,

On 20 June 2001 at  15:11:31 -0400 (which was 20:11 where I live)
--pb wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

I am replying to you here and on TBTECH. This is the kind of thing
that should only be discussed on TBTECH, so for any further
discussion, please reply there.

p> I am asking for some help from power users! I am trying to figure
p> out what this thing is:

p> quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(\n*-BEGIN PGP
p> SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN
p> PGP 
SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s*.*roups.*~-~>.*-*_->)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""

p> ...but since I am not a programmer, I do not quite understand. One
p> thing I know is that this line "cleans up" signature which is
p> exactly what I am looking for.

It is a regular expression macro which produces quoted text for a
reply omitting any PGP header and signature.

p> I am subscribed to a list and at the bottom of every message this
p> thing appears:

p> begin ---\ not included



p> Now, is there a way to make sure that this disappears when I reply?

%quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP='(.*)\nbegin -*\\ not 
inc.*'%REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%text'%SUBPATT='1'"

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Hello Listers, 

On  Wed, 20 Jun 2001, at 15:11:31 [GMT -0400] (which was 21:11 where I
live) --pb wrote:

p> I  am  asking for some help from power users! I am trying to figure
p> out what this thing is:
p> quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(\
p> ...but  since I am not a programmer, I do not quite understand. One
p> thing  I  know  is  that  this  line "cleans up" signature which is
p> exactly what I am looking for.

Apart  the  fact  the  correct  list  for  this  kind  of questions is
TBTECH... I cannot figure any cause to send your question tree times.

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Re: Clean up in reply: macros...

[Dirk Heiser]

Hi --pb,

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:19:09 -0400, you wrote:

>  I am subscribed to a list and at the bottom of every message this
>  thing appears:

> begin ---\ not included

> --- Vortex Diehards
> Website http://www.VortexDiehards.com
> clan forum password: x

[snip]

> end ---\ not included

> Now, is there a way to make sure that this disappears when I reply?

Try this in your reply template:
%QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?i)\A(.*?)--- Vortex Diehards\nWebsite 
http://www.VortexDiehards.com\nclan forum password: x"%REGEXPMATCH="%TEXT"'

HTH,
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Configuring TB! to Load w/ certain View Folder Windows Open

[Douglas Hinds]

Hello other TB! List subscribers,

Can TB! be configured to load w/ certain View Folder windows open?
There are a number of Folders I always want on view.

Thanks in advance.

Douglas

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Re: Autoresponding

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Preston,

On 20 June 2001 at  12:56:24 -0400 (which was 17:56 where I live)
Preston wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

P> I want to set some kind of filter to automatically send an email
P> (my PGP public key) to a message that has a specific subject and
P> body.

P> Ideally, I will have a mailto: in my signature and once people
P> click that they can get my key.

P> How do I go about doing this?

Well, you need a mailto which looks something like this:


Then you need a filter which checks for recipient (you) and subject
(send_pgp_keys) and has an action of "Mark message read" and "Create
auto-reply". Configure the template which can use either
%PUT='mypgpkey.asc' or %INCLUDE='mypgpkey.asc' to get the PGP key
added onto it. You could even paste the ASCII key directly into the
reply template if you prefer.


Finally, you can set a folder to which the requester messages can be
filtered. You could also set up an outgoing mail filter to move the
sent auto-response into the same folder so that you can be certain
that the key was sent.

That should do it for you.

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Re: Clean up in reply: macros...

[David Elliott]

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Hi --pb

On 20 June 2001 at 15:11:31 -0400 (which was 20:11 where I live) --pb
rearranged electrons to get

> I am asking for some help from power users! I am trying to figure  out
> what this thing is:

< ... >

Very basically it takes the text of the reply and looks for [-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED] If it finds it it take the contents from the line after [Hash]
until it finds [-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE] and this become the text of the
reply. (there are some other conditions as well)

> I am subscribed to a list and at the bottom of every message this thing
> appears:

< ... >

> Now, is there a way to make sure that this disappears when I reply?

Yes by adding other bits to the regex. The best place to ask about this
stuff it TBTECH. I believe that there is a section in the FAQ on
www.silverstones.com about this as well.


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[--pb]

Hello everyone,

 I am asking for some help from power users! I am trying to figure
 out what this thing is:
 quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(\n*-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s*.*roups.*~-~>.*-*_->)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""
 ...but since I am not a programmer, I do not quite understand.
 One thing I know is that this line "cleans up" signature which is
 exactly what I am looking for.

 I am subscribed to a list and at the bottom of every message this
 thing appears:

begin ---\ not included

--- Vortex Diehards
Website http://www.VortexDiehards.com
clan forum password: x

FTP Server vxd.dyndns.org
username: vxd
password: 

Battlecom Server xx.xx.xxx.xx

Age of List (days):   18
Number of Posted Messages:145
Average Messages Per Day: 8
Pending Confirms: 0

Subscriber Domains:   4
com:  14
net:  3
edu:  2
fr:   1

end ---\ not included

Now, is there a way to make sure that this disappears when I reply?

Thanks a lot to all of you.

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Re: Viewing attachments

[Jernej Simonèiè]

Hello Dierk,

20. junij 2001, 16:49:23, you wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> Hello TBUDL Members!

>   Is it just my perception or did something change:

>   I always had "View attachments automatically" and "View HTML
>   automatically" on. when I got a HTML newsletter it was shown as HTML
>   and the attachment window was not shown unless I got to the plain
>   text version.

>   Today I received 4 newsletters that correctly showed up in HTML view
>   but additionally the attachment window.

I actually like to see attachements in HTML view, too. And, yes this
happens to me, too.

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Re: Autoresponding

[Melissa]

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On Wednesday, June 20, 2001, at 9:56:24 AM PDT, Preston wrote:

P> I want to set some kind of filter to automatically send an email (my
P> PGP public key) to a message that has a specific subject and body.

Hello Preston,

1) Choose an address you want your key requests to go through (I've set up
a Yahoo POP3 account for mine).

2) Open up the Sorting Office, and create a new "Incoming" filter...
 a) Strings: [*address], Location: Recipient, Presence: Yes
 b) Strings: [*subject], Location: Subject, Presence: Yes

*Fill in the appropriate string.

3) Go to the "Actions" tab, and scroll down to "Send Auto-Reply" - then
click on the radio button to the right of the "Send Auto-Reply" check
box...

4) Create your outgoing template - which will include your public key(s)

I have several different sets of keys (several different auto-reply
templates), so depending on which mailto: I use in a particular
template/signature, and the particular subject line I've set in each
separate mailto: - and it's corresponding filter rule - clicking on the
mailto: in my signature will generate a requesting mail for a particular
set of public keys.

P> Ideally, I will have a mailto: in my signature and once people click
P> that they can get my key.

P> How do I go about doing this?

See the mailto: in my signature (it's part of my message template)...

Melissa
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[--pb]

Hello everyone,

 I am asking for some help from power users! I am trying to figure
 out what this thing is:
 %quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(\n*-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s*.*roups.*~-~>.*-*_->)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""
 ...but since I am not a programmer, I do not quite understand.
 One thing I know is that this line "cleans up" signature which is
 exactly what I am looking for.

 I am subscribed to a list and at the bottom of every message this
 thing appears:

begin ---\ not included

--- Vortex Diehards
Website http://www.VortexDiehards.com
clan forum password: x

FTP Server vxd.dyndns.org
username: vxd
password: 

Battlecom Server xx.xx.xxx.xx

Age of List (days):   18
Number of Posted Messages:145
Average Messages Per Day: 8
Pending Confirms: 0

Subscriber Domains:   4
com:  14
net:  3
edu:  2
fr:   1

end ---\ not included

Now, is there a way to make sure that this disappears when I reply?

Thanks a lot to all of you.

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Re: Problems with new version download 1.53bis

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:14:46 -0700, Igbar wrote these comments:
...
TF>> Give it a try with another web browser, or an ftp client, and see
TF>> whether the problem persists.

IF> obviously, as is normal on this list, you didn't read my message .. we
IF> have had no problems with netscape for over 4 years of constant use ..
IF> i was wondering if you had any real sources for the information or
IF> just gossip .. guess you reply states it all

Please be nice now.

Do you often download *RAR* archives on the internet? We've witnessed on
this list, complaints of problems with downloads from the Ritlabs servers
of RAR archives. All were done using Netscape at the time, and the problem
went away when another browser or ftp client was used. I remember this
clearly and it ain't gossip.

Count me inexperienced and under-exposed but I never knew about or had to
deal with RAR archives until over 4 years of computing. In fact, apart
from the ones I personally create, Ritlabs is the only commercial server
I've had to download them from and I download a lot of applications. We
cannot assume then that you routinely download RAR archives without
problems using Netscape.

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[--pb]

Bonjour The Bat,

 I am asking for some help from power users! I am trying to figure
 out what this thing is:
 %quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(\n*-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s*.*roups.*~-~>.*-*_->)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""
 ...but since I am not a programmer, I do not quite understand.
 One thing I know is that this line "cleans up" signature which is
 exactly what I am looking for.

 I am subscribed to a list and at the bottom of every message this
 thing appears:

begin ---\ not included

--- Vortex Diehards
Website http://www.VortexDiehards.com
clan forum password: x

FTP Server vxd.dyndns.org
username: vxd
password: 

Battlecom Server xx.xx.xxx.xx

Age of List (days):   18
Number of Posted Messages:145
Average Messages Per Day: 8
Pending Confirms: 0

Subscriber Domains:   4
com:  14
net:  3
edu:  2
fr:   1

end ---\ not included

Now, is there a way to make sure that this disappears when I reply?

Thanks a lot to all of you.

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--pb

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:03:00 +0200, Dierk contributed this to our
collective wisdom:
...
DH> If it's this, I can't kill any of the applications. they are not quite
DH> vital but very important to me. BTW, i tested the MT prob with
DH> different computers, setups and app's running or not running. doesn't
DH> change a thing. Look up the archives, I think I twice or three times
DH> wrote about it.

Don't hold your breath on my looking it up , but it's interesting that
the problem follows you across installations, assuming that these are
fresh installations and not backups being restored on other machines.

I've never had a ticker problem. It just keeps scrolling.

Let's see  could it be a particular ticker configuration?

How do you view your ticker? What are the settings? I have mine in thin
view, always on top, faster scrolling, auto-zoom disabled, no message age
limits defined and I enabled viewing of all message types.

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[Preston]

Hello,

I want to set some kind of filter to automatically send an email (my
PGP public key) to a message that has a specific subject and body.

Ideally, I will have a mailto: in my signature and once people click
that they can get my key.

How do I go about doing this?

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threads and unread messages

[andrew]

Hi TBUDL,

Just a thought. Wouldn't it be cool if when we view a list by threads
it minimised all threads and then showed only expanded threads where
there's a new message waiting within the thread as well as latest/top.
I thought TB was doing it for me just now which is where the thought
stemmed.

Can it do this? What do people think?

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Re: TB! 1.53d ?!

[Silviu Cojocaru]

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Wednesday, June 20, 2001, 4:08:24 PM, David van Zuijlekom wrote:

> Yes I found it:

>> You can download 1.53d from The Bat! official home page -
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/ - for some weird reason, the
>> uninstall program was not included in the previous 1.53 releases.
>> Please excuse us for such inconvenience...

Does it have some other bug fixes listed in the readme.txt since
1.53bis ?

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Re[2]: Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?

[Tim Musson]

Hey A,

Wednesday, June 20, 2001, 8:38:26 AM, you wrote:

TM>>   Is there a Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color
TM>>   group? Or is there a way I can create one with TB?

ACM> Alt-M-G ... and choose from the list of colour groups?

Darn, I thought I had looked in the Message menu...

Thanks

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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Karin!

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 3:48:53 PM you wrote:

> Uhm, I didn't speak against it. Actually, I love these
> quotes that match content. And my original question was
> mostly meant as entertainment for the list.

So we were all the time on the right track. and I thought I was way
out of line ...

>  Talking about upsetting people that you care about, look
> what TB came up with this time:

Yeah, that ones good; he's as good under his correct name as under his
pen name Dan Kavanagh.


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bislang gestorben.

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Viewing attachments

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello TBUDL Members!

  Is it just my perception or did something change:

  I always had "View attachments automatically" and "View HTML
  automatically" on. when I got a HTML newsletter it was shown as HTML
  and the attachment window was not shown unless I got to the plain
  text version.

  Today I received 4 newsletters that correctly showed up in HTML view
  but additionally the attachment window.

  what's going on?


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Re: TB! 1.53d ?!

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Silviu,

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 1:03:49 PM you wrote (at least in part):

SC> Hmm I saw a few people use TB! 1.53d (!!!) but I saw no
SC> announcement about this new version from either Stef or Max.

SC> Could someone enlighten me please ?

http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

There's the 'd version announced. I don't know why nobody "official" told that
on any list, I've read that randomly here on TBUDL and fetched the new
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Re: Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Tim,

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 2:24:09 PM you wrote (at least in part):

TM> Hey TBUDL,

TM>   Is there a Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?
TM>   Or is there a way I can create one with TB?

Have you tried to set up a filter with "Manual" and "Execute on hotkey" ?
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Re: Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?

[OK3]

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Wednesday, June 20, 2001, Tim Musson wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?:

TM>   Is  there  a  Keyboard  shortcut  to mark a message with a color
TM>   group? Or is there a way I can create one with TB?

Create  filter  which  will assign a color group and assign a shortcut
key to it.

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Re[2]: Problems with new version download 1.53bis

[Igbar Foosenhopper]

Hello Thomas,

I wrote ...
>> Really .. all we have used is netscape, for the past 4 years, and we
>> have not seen this.  Do you know of a document or site where I can
>> research this?

TF> No; I got this info from several mailing lists where people complained
TF> that a downloaded compressed file didn't work correctly. They
TF> downloaded with another app, and suddenly they had no problems any
TF> more.

TF> Give it a try with another web browser, or an ftp client, and see
TF> whether the problem persists.

obviously, as is normal on this list, you didn't read my message .. we
have had no problems with netscape for over 4 years of constant use ..
i was wondering if you had any real sources for the information or
just gossip .. guess you reply states it all



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Re: MailTicker not showing up

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Allie!

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 2:25:00 PM you wrote:

> heh. That one's a scorcher. :-) Again, pretty unusual and very likely
> unique to your setup.

Not quite, somebody a few months ago wrote of the same problem. sadly
enough nobody could offer a solution, not even RITLabs, who are on it.

> Have you tried eliminating running applications methodically to see
> whether there's an application interaction?

If it's this, I can't kill any of the applications. they are not quite
vital but very important to me. BTW, i tested the MT prob with
different computers, setups and app's running or not running. doesn't
change a thing. Look up the archives, I think I twice or three times
wrote about it.

> Video driver upgrade?

the have been updated two or three times. I think I am using the
current official version. I don't intend to use any betas of video
drivers, not even by Matrox. One of the points I can't upgrade to
Win2K.

It is not the video driver, with another machine I had the problem on
some older ATI graphics adapter.



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Re: HTML files trouble

[Alicia Ruiz]

Hello Listers,

On  Tuesday,  19  June  2001,  at 19:10:15 [GMT -0700] (which was 4:10
where I live) Paul wrote:

PFS> The  files  download,  but  nothing shows up except the From, To,
PFS> Subject, Time etc. That's it nothing else no message at all. Then
PFS> if I close The Bat and reopen it the whole message is there.

This  problem  was  reported  by  some members of the Spanish list two
months  ago.  We  tried  to  reproduce  it without success. It happens
sometimes, to some users, with some messages.

There  is  a  minor  difference  with  Paul's version of problem: When
problem  comes, it happens with every html message. More exactly, with
HTX  messages.  We concluded problem happens with HTX messages only. I
see we concluded that wrong.

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Re: TB! 1.53d ?!

[Marek Mikus]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Silviu Cojocaru wrote:

>   Hmm I saw a few people use TB! 1.53d (!!!) but I saw no
> announcement about this new version from either Stef or Max.
>
> Could someone enlighten me please ?

changes specified in readme.txt from 1.53d installation:

[-] Bug with attachment saving in the message editor

[-] Dial-up networking support was not working under Windows NT4

[-] It was not possible to print messages when autoview was switched off

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Sending Problems

[Jason Hannah]

 I have The Bat 1.53bis, and when I send any mail that is bigger than
 1.4Kb, it gets stuck and won't send.  I know that it's not my mail
 provider, because I've sent the same exact email with another program
 just to test it.  The progress bar on the connection centre window
 will say something like "Transfer: [2,228 bytes / 2,227 bytes]", which
 but then it will hang there, and the message does NOT get sent.

 Any suggestions?  This has only been doing this for about a week now,
 and like I said, it's only on messages bigger than 1.4K.  I tried
 going back to an older version of the Bat, and that didn't help, and
 until about a week ago, it worked fine in 1.53.

 Jason Hannah
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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Karin Spaink]

On 20-06-2001 at 11:59, Dierk Haasis kindly wrote:
> Hello andrew!

>> Can I just clarify. Do we like  a tag that is related to the subject
>> of the mail? I would imagine it would be pretty useful. So we don't
>> have a problem?

> The original posting from Karin spoke against it - and on good
> grounds.

Uhm, I didn't speak against it. Actually, I love these
quotes that match content. And my original question was
mostly meant as entertainment for the list.

> Whenever I stumble upon a tag line I consider to be too aggressive or
> misplaced in the context, I tend to either open a new message, delete
> the line or just plain apologize beforehand. until now it has only be
> a problem with a certain lady, or actually my perception of her.

For sigs that are all too blatent within the context, I
created a quick template ("sig") that redoes my whole
signature: initial, delimiter, new cookie.

 Talking about upsetting people that you care about, look
what TB came up with this time:


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Re: TB! 1.53d ?!

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Hello Silviu,

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 14:03:49 +0300, Silviu Cojocaru [SC]
wrote concerning 'TB! 1.53d ?!':

SC> Could someone enlighten me please ?

Yes I found it:

> You can download 1.53d from The Bat! official home page -
> http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/ - for some weird reason, the
> uninstall program was not included in the previous 1.53 releases.
> Please excuse us for such inconvenience...

> Regards,
>  Stefan

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Re: TB! 1.53d ?!

[David van Zuijlekom]

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Hello Silviu,

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 14:03:49 +0300, Silviu Cojocaru [SC]
wrote concerning 'TB! 1.53d ?!':

SC>   Hmm I saw a few people use TB! 1.53d (!!!) but I saw no
SC> announcement about this new version from either Stef or Max.

SC> Could someone enlighten me please ?

I thought it had something to do with the uninstall problems.

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Re: Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:24:09 -0400, Tim contributed this to our collective
wisdom:
...
TM>   Is there a Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?
TM>   Or is there a way I can create one with TB?

Alt-M-G ... and choose from the list of colour groups?

Another way is to create your shortcut by creating a manual filter rule,
define a shortcut for it and make the action to change the colour group to
what you wish. You can then change any message's colour group by selecting
the message and hitting the shortcut. The filter will only work in the
account it was created but you could copy it to other accounts.

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TB! 1.53d ?!

[Silviu Cojocaru]

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  Hmm I saw a few people use TB! 1.53d (!!!) but I saw no
announcement about this new version from either Stef or Max.

Could someone enlighten me please ?
 
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Re: Unnerving sigs

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:38:50 -0400, Tim contributed this to our collective
wisdom:
...
TM> How does this work?  I right click and pick "Insert Cookie" but don't
TM> get anything.  Do I have to set where the "Cookies" are somewhere?  As
TM> you can see below, it works in my template.

For this to work you need to have cookies listed in the default location
for cookies, i.e., Account Properties/Templates/cookies. Remember also
that each account has its own settings and separate cookie file. The
cookies you get will therefore depend on which account you're message is
being composed to be sent from.

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Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?

[Tim Musson]

Hey TBUDL,

  Is there a Keyboard shortcut to mark a message with a color group?
  Or is there a way I can create one with TB?

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:37:36 +0200, Dierk thoughtfully wrote the
following:
...
DH> Just as a reminder: My MT is shown but gets stuck after one or one and
DH> a half "round". then it stays there with the part showing no messages
DH> but only how many new messages there are.

heh. That one's a scorcher. :-) Again, pretty unusual and very likely
unique to your setup. Have you tried eliminating running applications
methodically to see whether there's an application interaction? Video
driver upgrade?

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Re[2]: Unnerving sigs

[Tim Musson]

Hey Markus,

Wednesday, June 20, 2001, 6:24:22 AM, you wrote:

MG> To bring the discussion close to the Bat again: why don't mark the
MG> tag line and right-click and select "Insert Cookie" to have an
MG> alternative?

How does this work?  I right click and pick "Insert Cookie" but don't
get anything.  Do I have to set where the "Cookies" are somewhere?  As
you can see below, it works in my template.

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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

Dierk Haasis wrote:

> Whenever I stumble upon a tag line I consider to be too aggressive or
> misplaced in the context, I tend to either open a new message, delete
> the line or just plain apologize beforehand. until now it has only be
> a problem with a certain lady, or actually my perception of her.

To bring the discussion close to the Bat again: why don't mark the tag
line and right-click and select "Insert Cookie" to have an alternative?

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Re: quote only high lighted text

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Hello andrew,

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 00:16:57 +0100, andrew [a] wrote
concerning 'quote only high lighted text':

a> Glad I'm raising a smile anyway ;-)

;-)

a> Nick said
>>>Add the %WRAPPED Macro to your Reply Template and you're off to the
>>>races! :o)

a> so where would i put that in the template?

You have to place it before the %quotes macro. It's meant to wrap your
quoted text. But as far as I know it only wraps the first paragraph,
so have to do the rest manual.

It works like this: %WRAPPED='%QUOTES="..."'

a> (and while we're at it cookies then are only plain text to be
a> inserted in each mail selected - ie. i could cookie my web address,
a> or a sig?)

Yes, that's possible but that's not were cookies are meant for. It's
meant for inserting a random tagline out of a textfile (with a list of
taglines) into your messages. So TB! will pick a random cookie for
each mail. Have a look at my tagline. ;-)

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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello andrew!

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 11:36:18 AM you wrote:

> Can I just clarify. Do we like  a tag that is related to the subject
> of the mail? I would imagine it would be pretty useful. So we don't
> have a problem?

The original posting from Karin spoke against it - and on good
grounds. Me, well, I don't care, as long as there seems to me a random
choice, that is, all of my lines will come up with time, and they are
not been used too often.

Whenever I stumble upon a tag line I consider to be too aggressive or
misplaced in the context, I tend to either open a new message, delete
the line or just plain apologize beforehand. until now it has only be
a problem with a certain lady, or actually my perception of her.




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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 10:52:47 AM you wrote:

> Maybe not TB! is choosing the taglines regarding to the subject, but
> we're choosing our subject and texts regarding to the unnoticed
> influence of our taglines? *ggg*

As an outspoken sceptic I disregard any notion of being influenced by
tags (except for the game with veterinarian guns), gods or other
supernatural beings, stars, or aliens.

You know, the answer does lie somewhere out there ... and it's lying
in TV-scripts. :-))

If anybody wants to make something of the current tag line, please, be
free. I will send any good suggestion on to the authoress (I hate PC).


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Re[2]: Unnerving sigs

[andrew]

Hi Peter,

Can I just clarify. Do we like  a tag that is related to the subject
of the mail? I would imagine it would be pretty useful. So we don't
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Re[3]: clicked something and got box of possible email software

[andrew]

Hi Jan,

 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, at 21:46:52 [GMT -0400] (which was 02:46 in London) you wrote:

JR>   ok what is powerpro? Don't remember reading about it.

Allie mentioned in it one of his mails as a macro tool we can use to
run a macro to do quotes in the middle of a para, it can be used to
split the para and reflow both parts leaving cursor in the middle -
apparently but I'm still working on it ;-)


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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Dierk,

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 10:39:09 AM you wrote (at least in part):

DH> Oh, I thought about that line and wrote it before I saw my random tag
DH> line ... Now, what does that mean?

sorry for jumping in *g* ... maybe it does mean you're influenced without
noticing. Maybe not TB! is choosing the taglines regarding to the subject, but
we're choosing our subject and texts regarding to the unnoticed influence of
our taglines? *ggg*
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Re: MailTicker not showing up

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Allie!

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 9:47:54 AM you wrote:

> Now we have another question to ask the next person who's having ticker
> problems.

Do you remember mine? we haven't cured it, yet.

Just as a reminder: My MT is shown but gets stuck after one or one and
a half "round". then it stays there with the part showing no messages
but only how many new messages there are.



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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Thomas!

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 9:48:51 AM you wrote:

> I disagree. I don't need to try hard. And I don't think my perception
> is a problem. ;-)

Sounds as if we should marry ... each other ;-).

Oh, I thought about that line and wrote it before I saw my random tag
line ... Now, what does that mean?



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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Thomas F]

Hi Dierk,

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:17:44 +0200GMT (20/06/2001, 15:17 +0800GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:


>> and it still happens. Look below (not fixed) 

DH> Since I can't actually see why RITLabs should put a very difficult
DH> semantical matcher into its code, I think it is pure coincidence

You don't know the basics of a good and healthy paranoia.

DH> The problem with human perception especially when coincidence is
DH> involved is that we try as hard as we can to find a pattern.

I disagree. I don't need to try hard. And I don't think my perception
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Re: MailTicker not showing up

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:58:16 +0200, Eduard contributed this to our
collective wisdom:
...
EF> I had the ticker set to 'Always' in the 'Options - Preferences -
EF> General' tab, but hadn't realized that the ticker window has a
EF> right-click pop-up menu with an 'Always on top' option, which I
EF> suppose I unselected months ago, had forgotten about it and was
EF> working against me 8-)

EF> Thanks again for your help and sorry for the trouble.

No trouble at all. :-)

Now we have another question to ask the next person who's having ticker
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Re: Unnerving sigs

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello David!

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 8:38:42 AM you wrote:

> I was finding that as well (from a file of 270,000) so I changed most of
> them to tribbles with just a few others , and it still happens. Look below
> (not fixed) 

I don't want to open the discussion on randomising again, Maxxx,
Stefan and others had this already.

But here's something Karin herself mentioned: We tend to have tag
lines based upon our own experiences and characters. We even attribute
them connotations others may not see.

Since I can't actually see why RITLabs should put a very difficult
semantical matcher into its code, I think it is pure coincidence
together with "poor" choice (just look up my signatures!) in our
cookie files and perception.

Just think of it, how often will you remember a perfectly harmless tag
line? And how often will you remember the one that you don't find
appropriate? The problem with human perception especially when
coincidence is involved is that we try as hard as we can to find a
pattern.

The German language knows one word for the English "random" and
"coincidence": Zufall. The second English word shows how we treat
random incidents happening to us, it implies a kind of pattern
("co-").

BTW, although the author of the below tag line is a good friend of
mine and although I really like his wisdom, I did not choose this
specific sentence by him for this thread. And if I did not write it
here, you may not even have noticed it.


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