Re: The Bat! Forum
Hi Jan, on Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:25:19 -0400 GMT (which was Thursday, October 25, 2001, 00:25 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote: Maxim>> Welcome to The Bat! Forum in Cologne, Germany on Maxim>> Sunday 4th November. [...] > Wish I could attend. And why are you not yet announced? :-) I will be there! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 Homepage: http://www.rolandburger.de I use The Bat! v1.53t under WINDOWS ME 4.90 Build 3000 ! -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: copy all account files and setup
A> I've just copied all my Bat folders from my laptop to my base PC. Is A> there an easy way to have bat recognise all these accounts, filters A> etc. The way I would normally do this is install bat, point it at A> the directory with the bat files in it and the create new accounts A> with the same name as the accounts copied to TB!. TB! then A> recognises all the accounts... but this being TB! there must be a A> much simpler route. I do all the time as follows : - Suppose your current TB! is c:\program files\the bat!\ and folders under directory c:\program files\the bat!\mail\Andrew - You will move to other PC and copy all TB! folder to same directory, i.e c:\program files\the bat!\mail\andrews - Copy all account.* and *.abd to root directory c:\...\mail\andrews - Install TB! to c:\program files\the bat!, while install do not directly point to your TB! folder, instead create dummy account such [EMAIL PROTECTED] - After finished the installation, create secondary account but now point to your Real Account (the directory point to c:\...mail\andrew). I just ran into the same situation as Andrews, followed your directions, so far so good. But I must be be really clueless today because I can't figure out out what you mean by "point" to your real account... I've got my test account visible under folders, but my other accounts which I had copied from my laptop aren't seen by TB. How do I make TB "point" at them when they are already sitting in the same directory as on the other computer??!!! Best, Miles Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
View email on the server before donwloading
Hello, I'm currently evaluating The Bat and would like to know if there is a way to view a list of e-mails (and size) on a server before downloading them via the Alt-F2 command. And if yes, is it possible to delete some of them before downloading others Thanks jc -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: View email on the server before donwloading
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jean, On 25 October 2001 at 11:25:05 [GMT+0200] (which was 10:25 where I live) Jean Claude Gaertner wrote to The Bat List E-mail and made these points: JCG> I'm currently evaluating The Bat and would like to know if there is a JCG> way to view a list of e-mails (and size) on a server before JCG> downloading them via the Alt-F2 command. JCG> And if yes, is it possible to delete some of them before downloading JCG> others Yes to both questions. Use the "Account / Dispatch mail on server" options (or the shortcuts to them). It's all there. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / ' TB! v1.54/10-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE719uZOeQkq5KdzaARAhBDAJ0YhCIdNn0Or/4yrIaC8QBoKRUr6gCg5BBd 91tkspuY+xfBLTNnpMFYwRk= =iDdA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: View email on the server before donwloading
Hello, On Thursday, October 25, 2001, 11:25, Jean wrote: JCG> Hello, JCG> I'm currently evaluating The Bat and would like to know if there is a JCG> way to view a list of e-mails (and size) on a server before JCG> downloading them via the Alt-F2 command. JCG> And if yes, is it possible to delete some of them before downloading JCG> others JCG> Thanks JCG> jc Yes it is possible to do all of this. Use "Dispatch mail on server" (Ctrl+F2) -- Edvinas -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: View email on the server before donwloading
Hi Mark and Edvinas, E> Yes it is possible to do all of this. Use "Dispatch mail on server" E> (Ctrl+F2) Great, I will try this right away. The Bat looks very good. what I miss the most is an updated and more consistent help file... I'm so used to my old Agent newsreader (which I use for email too) Best regards JC -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat! under Linux
Well, if you can read this message, then I made The Bat! work under Linux (with Wine). The Bat! seems to work (more or less) with the latest build. It takes a little longer to load (actually, when it's loading it gets caught in some loop, and doesn't exit until I press Alt+Tab), and I can't always browse folders or view messages. But so far, it seems to work. I'm using Mandrake Linux 8.1 and WINE build 20011023-1. I'll upload a screenshot at http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/misc/batlinux.png later. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54/10 on Windows 95 4.0.950.Win95] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
no QUIT - the same large mail again and again
Hello, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/9 Serial Number 1B335195 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6. I use an internal Mailserver "MDaemon" from Deerfield. If I fetch mails with very large attachments (bigger 6 MB) from there (and only then!), there is no "QUIT" at the end and I get the same mails 5 or 6 times. Deerfield says, it is not a problem of the Mailserver - they cannot reproduce it. I believe, there is a signal loss because there is no QUIT at the end. That all happens within 60 seconds. Can I raise the timeout therefore? Here is the logfile: Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:59: -- Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] Nehme POP-Verbindung von [192.168.11.103] an Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] +OK abc.de POP MDaemon 5.0.1 ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] USER miller Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] +OK miller... Recipient ok Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] PASS ** Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] +OK [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s mailbox has 1 total messages (6487228 octets). Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] STAT Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] +OK 1 6487228 Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] LIST Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] Sending LIST response (not logged)... Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] RETR 1 Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:35: [376:1655] Sending to [192.168.11.103] Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:46: [376:1655] Übertragung abgeschlossen. Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:56: [376:1655] NOOP Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:56: [376:1655] +OK Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] DELE 1 Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] +OK message 1 deleted Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] POP session complete, 6487233 bytes transferred! Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: -- That happens only after large mails - with small mails everything works fine. Any idea? Thank you Ralf -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: no QUIT - the same large mail again and again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ralf, On 26 October 2001 at 01:35:01 [GMT+0200] (which was 00:35 where I live) Ralf Heinl wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: RH> I believe, there is a signal loss because there is no QUIT at the end. RH> That all happens within 60 seconds. RH> Can I raise the timeout therefore? You shouldn't need to. RH> Here is the logfile: RH> Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:56: [376:1655] NOOP RH> Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:56: [376:1655] +OK RH> Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] DELE 1 RH> Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] +OK message 1 deleted RH> Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] POP session complete, 6487233 bytes transferred! RH> Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: -- RH> That happens only after large mails - with small mails everything RH> works fine. RH> Any idea? Just tried with a 54mb attachment and between the NOOP, DELE and the POP session complete I get Fri 2001-10-26 01:33:18: [652:163] Winsock Error 10054: Connection was reset by the other side! Fri 2001-10-26 01:33:18: [652:163] Error reading from socket! Fri 2001-10-26 01:33:18: [652:163] POP session complete, 54501393 bytes transferred! This happens while TB is busy importing. *However* using MD3.6a (a hybrid 3.5, pre v4) the DELE stick and the message is gone. Perhaps it is a V4 / V5 (is it out yet?) issue that the DELE is not taken seriously without a QUIT. Seems a bit silly to me. Anyway, you can use the message dispatcher to delete the message and avoid repetitive download syndrome. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / ' TB! v1.54/10-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE72LFFOeQkq5KdzaARAoB6AKCG+ZZSh7LhItvzXu5ejybBAr1BmQCfYiLD FTy61C4Bzi/Clzx7zs/tnDM= =+jOS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! under Linux
Hi Jernej, On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:05:43 +0200GMT (26/10/2001, 03:05 +0800GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: JS> Well, if you can read this message, then I made The Bat! work under JS> Linux (with Wine). Congrats. Other people have reported problems with TB under wine, but that was with older versions. JS> I'm using Mandrake Linux 8.1 and WINE build 20011023-1. I'll upload a JS> screenshot at http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/misc/batlinux.png later. Looking good. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: no QUIT - the same large mail again and again
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 at 01:41:39 GMT +0100 (26/10/2001 7:41 where you think I live) "Marck D Pearlstone"=[MDP] wrote to Ralf Heinl on TBUDL : RH>> I believe, there is a signal loss because there is no QUIT at the RH>> end. That all happens within 60 seconds. RH>> Can I raise the timeout therefore? MDP> You shouldn't need to. Yupe agree and actually no timeout setting on TB! :-) But raising latency timer on MDaemon setting will help slow connection. RH>> Here is the logfile: RH>> Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:56: [376:1655] NOOP RH>> Thu 2001-10-25 14:01:56: [376:1655] +OK RH>> Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] DELE 1 RH>> Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] +OK message 1 deleted RH>> Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: [376:1655] POP session complete, 6487233 bytes transferred! RH>> Thu 2001-10-25 14:02:03: -- RH>> That happens only after large mails - with small mails everything RH>> works fine. RH>> Any idea? MDP> Just tried with a 54mb attachment and between the NOOP, DELE and the MDP> POP session complete I get MDP> Fri 2001-10-26 01:33:18: [652:163] Winsock Error 10054: Connection was reset by the other side! MDP> Fri 2001-10-26 01:33:18: [652:163] Error reading from socket! MDP> Fri 2001-10-26 01:33:18: [652:163] POP session complete, 54501393 bytes transferred! MDP> This happens while TB is busy importing. Something like that, but I curious Desktop anti virus involved here. I remember getting such error when running AVG :-( MDP> *However* using MD3.6a (a hybrid 3.5, pre v4) the DELE stick and MDP> the message is gone. Perhaps it is a V4 / V5 (is it out yet?) MDP> issue that the DELE is not taken seriously without a QUIT. It is configurable now since MD 4 (latest version 5.0.1), but IMHO it is worth to activate this from Miscl. Options menu. MDP> Seems a bit silly to me. Anyway, you can use the message MDP> dispatcher to delete the message and avoid repetitive download MDP> syndrome. While at home, every week (I just running TB! at home on Saturday or Sunday) I download around 10 000 messages around 60 MB size with slow connection without problem :-) -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: copy all account files and setup
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 at 04:39:05 GMT -0400 (25/10/2001 15:39 where you think I live) "Miles Johnson"=[MJ] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : MJ> I do all the time as follows : MJ> - Suppose your current TB! is c:\program files\the bat!\ and folders MJ>under directory c:\program files\the bat!\mail\Andrew MJ> - You will move to other PC and copy all TB! folder to same MJ>directory, i.e c:\program files\the bat!\mail\andrews MJ> - Copy all account.* and *.abd to root directory c:\...\mail\andrews MJ> - Install TB! to c:\program files\the bat!, while install do not MJ>directly point to your TB! folder, instead create dummy account MJ>such [EMAIL PROTECTED] MJ> - After finished the installation, create secondary account but now MJ>point to your Real Account (the directory point to MJ>c:\...mail\andrew). MJ> I just ran into the same situation as Andrews, followed your directions, so MJ> far so good. But I must be be really clueless today because I can't figure MJ> out out what you mean by "point" to your real account... Real Account = your old account on your old PC. MJ> I've got my test account visible under folders, but my other MJ> accounts which I had copied from my laptop aren't seen by TB. How MJ> do I make TB "point" at them when they are already sitting in the MJ> same directory as on the other computer??!!! Suppose your old account on your old PC = Miles Johnson Now, create new account "Miles Johnson", then set your Home Directory (click Browse icon) pointing to your TB! folders (for instance : c:\program files\the bat!\mail\miles johnson...then click next till end/finished. That's all. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
