Re: Transferring contact information from Outlook

2001-12-05 Thread Sergiy Merlyan

Hello Geoff,

On  Wednesday, December 05, 2001, at 03:30, GMT +00
  you wrote about "Transferring contact information from Outlook", at least in part:

GL> Has anyone done this that can suggest a better route. For example, is
GL> there another mail client from which TB can import and that can import
GL> from Outlook personal folder files?

   There is an utility Wab2Ldif.exe for exporting your contact information from
Windows Address Book to LDIF file. TheBat can import from LDIF files. I haven't
done it myself, but think it can help. If you need it, let me know using
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Re[2]: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails

2001-12-05 Thread Philip Yu

Hello Peter,

Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 11:56:27 PM, you wrote:
PP> It's a very tricky problem you've got, but I think we should try to
PP> pin it down, it just is technic and not a human being, so it is
PP> possible to find the error *GGG*
Sorry I have to cut your reply short because of the 1.4k limitation. I
tried different email clients. Similar result. I was using the same
modem, phone line and isp before. Recently I installed w2k pro. Also
the machine has LAN connection to my home network. It acts as a
Internet gateway. I think sth to do with w2k. Any idea?
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Re: tbudl Digest V1 #91

2001-12-05 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Scott,

On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:48:38 +1030GMT (5-12-01, 6:18 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

SS> Does anybody know how to export e-mail in outlook express?

Export your e-mail to *.msg files, rename those to *.eml, now you can
drag 'n drop them into OE

SS> I want to export everything including address book+e-mails.

The address book is something else. My OE (5.0) claims to be able to
import comma separated files into the address book, but it isn't able
to inport them correctly. :-(

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Re: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails

2001-12-05 Thread mlh

Hello Marck,

Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 02:58 pm, you wrote:

MDP> Please refrain from making any personal observations on-list
Absolutely.

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Columns

2001-12-05 Thread mlh

Hello folks,

I like the way different folders can have different columns for
displaying message lists in different ways.

My problem is that I would like to have the *same* column settings for
most of my folders. I assume this can be done by ticking the "Use the
account default column settings" option under folder properties.
Trouble is, I can't see how to alter the default column settings to
how I want them. Any advice?

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Re: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails

2001-12-05 Thread mlh

Hello Peter,

Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 03:01 pm, you wrote:

PP> It is not anybody worrying about _your_ clock but more worrying about
PP> how your mails become sorted over here with you having a wrong clock
PP> setting and therefore 'wrong' (incorrect) sending time written in your
PP> mail :-)
Oh absolutely - I sort by created time on several high traffic lists &
it irritates me. Unfortunately, I had just re-installed from backup
program files and data files after a HDD failure & the clock saying
'Monday' instead of 'Tuesday' wasn't something I'd noticed/cared much
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Re: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello mlh,

On Wednesday, December 05 2001 at 02:13 AM PDT, you wrote:

> Trouble is, I can't see how to alter the default column settings to
> how I want them. Any advice?

Just right click the columns themselves... anywhere on the column... and
choose "Customise". There you will see the various columns listed and
their widths, and you will also see how to add/delete and change the
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Re: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread mlh

Hello Nick,

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 10:22 am, you wrote:

NA> Just right click the columns themselves... anywhere on the column... and
NA> choose "Customise". There you will see the various columns listed and
NA> their widths, and you will also see how to add/delete and change the
NA> widths.
Oh yes, sorry, i know how to do that - I just want to do that once
instead of once per folder. If i can set the default column setting to
be a particular way ...

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Re: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails

2001-12-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Philip,

On 5  Dec 2001 at 10:31:08 you wrote (at least in part):

PY> Sorry I have to cut your reply short because of the 1.4k limitation. I
PY> tried different email clients. Similar result. I was using the same
PY> modem, phone line and isp before. Recently I installed w2k pro. Also
PY> the machine has LAN connection to my home network. It acts as a
PY> Internet gateway. I think sth to do with w2k. Any idea?

OK, so it is not TB! ... Sorry, but that's good news *g*
Nevertheless ... AS it act's as a gateway to other clients have you
tried sending a mail from one of the client using your computer as
gateway? Does the same limitation apply on connections established by
a client in your LAN?
An other thing you can try out is uploading a e.g. 10K file via FTP to
any server. Is this restricted by this mysterious limitation too?

The last thing I'm able to suggest is using a network sniffer.

At [1] you are able to find the windows port of a great graphical tool
called 'Ethereal'. The download site for windows binaries is [2], the
direct download URL is [3]. You'll need pcap-drivers too, they're
located here: [4], direct download URL is [5]. If you're done with
installing and reboot start Ethereal, start a capturing and tell
The Bat! to send a mail smaller than 1.4K. Save the captured data.
Start a new capturing and tell The Bat! to send a mail bigger than
1.4K. Save this data too. Try to find out what's happening with the
connection by analyzing the saved data and comparing them. A usefull
function in Ethereal is "Tools" / "Follow TCP Stream", this outputs
nearly clear text.

If you can't find anything we'll need to find a way how you can send
this data to me (if you don't mind me having a look at them :-]).

Of course there's still the possibility to re-install W2K from scratch
if you think it's not worth the effort you'll have to do with
Ethereal, but I've no idea what setting in your W2K is causing your
trouble, so chances are there you'll getting the same problem again
after a fresh installation.

[1] http://www.ethereal.com/
[2] http://www.ethereal.com/distribution/win32/
[3] http://www.ethereal.com/distribution/win32/ethereal-setup-0.8.20.exe
[4] http://netgroup-mirror.ethereal.com/winpcap/
[5] http://netgroup-mirror.ethereal.com/winpcap/install/bin/WinPcap.exe
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Re: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello mlh,

On 5  Dec 2001 at 11:27:32 you wrote (at least in part):

NA>> Just right click the columns themselves... anywhere on the column... and
NA>> choose "Customise". There you will see the various columns listed and
NA>> their widths, and you will also see how to add/delete and change the
NA>> widths.
m> Oh yes, sorry, i know how to do that - I just want to do that once
m> instead of once per folder. If i can set the default column setting to
m> be a particular way ...

The 'Use the account default column settings' is somehow recursive *g*
Every folder with this option checked part this settings _and_ is able
to alter them. Check it for all folders you want to have the same
settings in and change column settings in one of this folders. All
other folders bind on that option will participate :-) Change one,
change all :-) There's no special preferences setting to define
'default column settings' it's done in any folder that uses it :-)

HTH Pit
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Re: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread Raj

Mlh,

On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, at 10:13:42 [GMT +] (which was 3:43 PM where I live) you
wrote:

m> Trouble is, I can't see how to alter the default column settings to
m> how I want them. Any advice?

Select  the  Account by clicking on the account Name and then right click on the
coloumn headings.

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Re: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread mlh

Hello Peter,

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 10:36 am, you wrote:

PP> The 'Use the account default column settings' is somehow recursive *g*
[...]
PP> There's no special preferences setting to define 'default column
PP> settings' it's done in any folder that uses it :-)
Top man - mucho appreciated.

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Re[2]: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread David Elliott

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Hi mlh

On 05 December 2001 at 10:27:32 + (which was 10:27 where I live) mlh
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NA>> Just right click the columns themselves... anywhere on the column... and
NA>> choose "Customise". There you will see the various columns listed and
NA>> their widths, and you will also see how to add/delete and change the
NA>> widths.

m> Oh yes, sorry, i know how to do that - I just want to do that once
m> instead of once per folder. If i can set the default column setting to
m> be a particular way ...

Click on a folder with the right button and go to folder properties there is
an option called 'Use account default column settings'. This will link in
all the folders chosen to the same settings.

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Re: v1.53d can't reply or forward emails

2001-12-05 Thread mlh

Hello Paul,

Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 03:14 pm, you wrote:

PAT> Yeah. This is why I think it'd be nice to have a "date received
PAT> on server" option in the message list columns.
It still doesn't get over the fact that, as noted elsewhere, the chain
of clocks between sender and receiver is too likely to have an error
in it :(

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Re[2]: Transferring contact information from Outlook

2001-12-05 Thread Geoff Lane

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 9:14:19 AM, Sergiy Merlyan wrote:

>There is an utility Wab2Ldif.exe for exporting your contact information from
> Windows Address Book to LDIF file. TheBat can import from LDIF files. I haven't
> done it myself, but think it can help. If you need it, let me know using
> direct.

Thanks for the information. However, the contact information is in
Outlook Personal Folders (PST) files, not in the Windows Address Book.
I have no way of getting this information to a Windows Address Book or
any other *bulk* form that TB can import.

Looks like I'll have to do this one vCard at a time :-(

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Re: Transferring contact information from Outlook

2001-12-05 Thread Marek Mikus

On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Geoff Lane wrote:

> In the saga of my continued attempt to convert from Outlook, I need to
> transfer the contact information from Outlook to TB address books. I
> need to migrate several hundred records.
>
> Outlook can export vCards; TB can import vCards. However, that route
> is very time-consuming. I spent over an hour yesterday and only
> scratched the surface. I've tried going via comma-delimited files --
> but something gets lost in translation and half the records end up as
> nonsense or with the information for one contact mixed and matched
> across two to four TB address records.
>
> Has anyone done this that can suggest a better route. For example, is
> there another mail client from which TB can import and that can import
> from Outlook personal folder files?

You can use utility from The Bat! programmers called WAB2LDIF. It loads
WAB (Windows Address Book) files and can export them to LDIF format, which
can be imported to TB without problems. You can download it from here for
example:

ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/wab2ldif.exe (200 kB)

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Re: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread mlh

Hello Peter,

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 10:36 am, you wrote:

PP> The 'Use the account default column settings' is somehow recursive *g*
Bugger. Just discovered that the folders set like this re-set column
sizes every time you close & subsequently open The Bat!, leaving me
needing to adjust my folder columns each time I open the program.

Curses!

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Re: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello mlh,

On 5  Dec 2001 at 12:50:17 you wrote (at least in part):

m> Just discovered that the folders set like this re-set column
m> sizes every time you close & subsequently open The Bat!, leaving me
m> needing to adjust my folder columns each time I open the program.

NACK.
Tried it with current Beta plus 1.53t (older version not available at
the moment) and everything works as expected.

P.S.: I'd really appreciate if you'd not use personal observations
terms as Marck you already pleased because some of us non-native
english speaking people may have problems to distinguish between an
offence and something non personal from common speech. I just had this
trouble in your last mail. Thank you very much.
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Re: Columns

2001-12-05 Thread mlh

Hello Peter,

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 12:12 pm, you wrote:

PP> Tried it with current Beta plus 1.53t (older version not available at
PP> the moment) and everything works as expected.
Ah. Maybe its 1.53d that doesn't do as expected. I'll install WinRAR
and then install 1.53t when I can.

PP> I'd really appreciate if you'd not use personal observations terms
Will address off list.

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Re[3]: Transferring contact information from Outlook

2001-12-05 Thread Sergiy Merlyan

Hello Geoff,

On  Wednesday, December 05, 2001, at 10:56, GMT +00
  you wrote about "Transferring contact information from Outlook", at least in part:

GL> Thanks for the information. However, the contact information is in
GL> Outlook Personal Folders (PST) files, not in the Windows Address Book.

   I don't know anything about PST files, but nevertheless think the utility
can help you. I don't know - perhaps Windows Address Book is something like
interface to your contact information and this program works through it.
   So don't hesitate to download the program:
ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/wab2ldif.exe
(thanks to Marek Mikus). I hope your efforts will be rewarded. Just try it!

GL> Looks like I'll have to do this one vCard at a time :-(
   Don't despair :))

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Re[4]: Transferring contact information from Outlook

2001-12-05 Thread Geoff Lane

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 12:25:32 PM, Sergiy Merlyan wrote:

>I don't know anything about PST files, but nevertheless think the utility
> can help you. I don't know - perhaps Windows Address Book is something like
> interface to your contact information and this program works through it.

Outlook PST files are a law unto themselves. However, I nearly have a
solution:

1. If you open the Outlook Address Book, you can select all the
contacts in one folder, right-click and choose Copy to Personal
Folder. That copies the records to a .PAB file, which Outlook Express
can partially understand.

2. You can then start Outlook Express and choose to import from the
Personal Address book that is associated with my Outlook profile.

3. Outlook Express 5.5 has an option to export the information to a
Windows Address Book.

4. You can use WAB2LDIF to convert the Windows Address Book to
something that TB can understand.

Unfortunately, Outlook Express has a bug in its import from PAB
routine -- it doesn't import the snail-mail addresses, notes, or
telephone numbers. So, this information never makes it to the WAB
file. Since most of my listed contacts have telephone numbers,
addresses, etc., for me, this route is less useful than doing the
transfer with individual vCards. However, anyone who is replacing
Outlook with TB and who only wants names and email addresses in their
TB address book should find the above process useful.

Now, if only I can find some way of getting OE5.5 to import the
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TBbeta

2001-12-05 Thread Eddie Castelli

Hi folks from 'TB!udl List',

Does anybody have the Subscribe URL for TBbeta ML?

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Re: TBbeta

2001-12-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Regexp in search function ?

2001-12-05 Thread Gerard de Vries

Hi fellow  Bats,

 I have been trying to search for multiple items using the search
 option under Tools-search-advandced but I can't hack it.

 I have the dark suspicion that I have to option regex.

 What I would like to do is search for something like the words Red
 and Blue must be present but not the word Black.
 
 Red and Blue not Black

 Is this possible?
 
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Tool for removing the Goner worm

2001-12-05 Thread Gene Gaines

Symentec US is providing a free tool for removal
of this uninvited guest, with a full explanation
of how it operates and propagates.

I'm sure other antivirus companies are doing the
same, but thought this might be useful.

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gifs

2001-12-05 Thread Ian Cunningham

Hello Batsters,

   Is there a way to embed a gif file within the body of a message?

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Re: Regexp in search function ?

2001-12-05 Thread Jernej Simončič

Hello Gerard,

5. december 2001, 17:09:27, you wrote:

GdV>  What I would like to do is search for something like the words Red
GdV>  and Blue must be present but not the word Black.

I don't know about NOT, but you can use & for AND and | for OR w/o
regexp.

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Re: gifs

2001-12-05 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Ian,

On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:37:23 -0500GMT (5-12-01, 17:37 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

IC>Is there a way to embed a gif file within the body of a message?

Not in TB.

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Re: Transferring contact information from Outlook

2001-12-05 Thread Hendrik Hannemann


Hendrik Hannemann
Hi there!
The easiest way in my eyes is to export the Outlook addressbook to a comma
delimited file (.csv) and then import that into TB. You get to choose which
fields in Outlook will end up in which fields in TB giving you more control.
Cheers
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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Transferring contact information from Outlook


> On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Geoff Lane wrote:
>
> > In the saga of my continued attempt to convert from Outlook, I need to
> > transfer the contact information from Outlook to TB address books. I
> > need to migrate several hundred records.
> >
> > Outlook can export vCards; TB can import vCards. However, that route
> > is very time-consuming. I spent over an hour yesterday and only
> > scratched the surface. I've tried going via comma-delimited files --
> > but something gets lost in translation and half the records end up as
> > nonsense or with the information for one contact mixed and matched
> > across two to four TB address records.
> >
> > Has anyone done this that can suggest a better route. For example, is
> > there another mail client from which TB can import and that can import
> > from Outlook personal folder files?
>
> You can use utility from The Bat! programmers called WAB2LDIF. It loads
> WAB (Windows Address Book) files and can export them to LDIF format, which
> can be imported to TB without problems. You can download it from here for
> example:
>
> ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/wab2ldif.exe (200 kB)
>
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Auto Completion

2001-12-05 Thread Nick Danger

Does anyone know of a way to turn off auto completion for the subject
line, but still leave it active for addresses?

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Re[2]: Transferring contact information from Outlook

2001-12-05 Thread Geoff Lane

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 5:49:16 PM, Hendrik Hannemann wrote:

> The easiest way in my eyes is to export the Outlook addressbook to a comma
> delimited file (.csv) and then import that into TB. You get to choose which
> fields in Outlook will end up in which fields in TB giving you more control.

Hi Hendrik,

I tried that, but there are problems in that over half the contact
records became corrupted and/or split over two to four physical
records with no apparent logic to what appeared in the fields.

FWIW, I suspect that this is because some records have copious notes
that include quotations and commas -- and that's enough to throw the
translation into disarray. I also tried tab delimiting, but had
similar problems with that route.

Thanks for the suggestion,

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Re: gifs

2001-12-05 Thread Alexis Haeringer

Bonjour Ian,

Mercredi, le 5 décembre 2001 à 11h37 [GMT -0500] (ce qui correspond à
17h37 ici où j'habite), Ian Cunningham =[IC] a écrit à [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

IC>Is there a way to embed a gif file within the body of a message?

  You can create a html message that you attache in your mail with the
  gif.


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Re[2]: Help help

2001-12-05 Thread Geoff Lane

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 8:48:32 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> I don't think so. As I wrote - and Thomas confirms in this thread - I
> once had a try at the German language file but discarded it after
> setting TB! back to use the English one.

> What I now need is the place where I can check/change the setting.

> If it turns out to be a beta issue we can easily change this topic
> over to the right list.

For info, this could be a known issue with WinHelp. If you're getting
an error that says you need an updated version of help, it's probably
Microsoft, not Ritlabs, that's to blame. If this is the case, I'll be
happy to provide a fuller explanation off list.

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Message Templates

2001-12-05 Thread Bob

Is there a way during composing a message to enter a command in the
actaull body of the message to Insert a Template?

I thought putting  QINCLUDE="Handle"  in the body of the message would
work but all it get is QINCLUDE="Handle" actaully written in the
message rather than the text from the Template.

  

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Re: Help help

2001-12-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 5  Dec 2001, 4:08:57 PM, Geoff Lane wrote:

> For info, this could be a known issue with WinHelp. If you're
> getting an error that says you need an updated version of help, it's
> probably Microsoft, not Ritlabs, that's to blame. If this is the
> case, I'll be happy to provide a fuller explanation off list.

At least here, the problem is that if one goes to help and selects
'help topics' nothing happens. If, OTOH, one hits F1, one gets the
help file.

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Re: Help help

2001-12-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 5  Dec 2001, 6:00:18 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote:


>> For info, this could be a known issue with WinHelp. If you're
>> getting an error that says you need an updated version of help, it's
>> probably Microsoft, not Ritlabs, that's to blame. If this is the
>> case, I'll be happy to provide a fuller explanation off list.

> At least here, the problem is that if one goes to help and selects
> 'help topics' nothing happens. If, OTOH, one hits F1, one gets the
> help file.

oops, my bad. I didn't realize what list I was on. I think this is a
beta issue. I didn't have this problem yesterday with 1.53t, just with
the beta.

Sorry. I deserve a salmon.

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Re: Replacing Outlook

2001-12-05 Thread Joseph N.

Lotus Organizer is now in version 6.  It's far more capable than 2.x.
I have version 5, and it not only allows for very extensive recurrence
templates but also allows customization by setting specific dates. The
alarm will go off after the even, but only when Organizer is started.
For something that would work without the program itself being on, you
probably need to use something as complex as Lotus Notes, which has a
Minder feature that would alert you to mail and calendar items even if
Notes is not started.

Zoot is an incredibly rich information processor with PIM capabilities
that probably would also fit the bill, but I use Organizer (ver. 5) as
my PIM, so can't really comment on Zoot's capabilities there.
(www.zootsoftware.com)


> Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5
> 
> I'm trying to replace MS Outlook. TB more than replaces Outlook as a
> mail client. However, I can't find a reminder application that comes
> close to Outlook. FWIW, I've tried Sidekick 95, Lotus Organizer 2.1,
> and some shareware/freeware like Organizer 3000. None of these
> applications meet with two of my requirements:
> 
> 1. Allow events to be set at any regular interval up to a year. For
>example, I have a ten-tape backup rotation. To set reminders for
>the month 1, month 2, and month 3 tapes, I need an interval of
>sixteen weeks.
>
> 2. The alarm must display even if the computer is started after the
>event has passed. For example, if the computer is switched off when
>a reminder to renew insurances is due, that reminder should display
>when the computer is started.
> 
> Any suggestions?


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Re: Message Templates

2001-12-05 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Bob,
On 5  Dec 2001 at 15:49:00 [GMT -0700], you wrote:

B> Is there a way during composing a message to enter a command in the
B> actaull body of the message to Insert a Template?

Type the name of the quick template and press  right after
the name (no space after the name of the QT). This will invoke the QT.

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Re: Message Templates

2001-12-05 Thread Carsten Thönges

Hi Bob,

B> Is there a way during composing a message to enter a command in the
B> actaull body of the message to Insert a Template?

Type QT handle in the mail body and press + :-)

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NoCanvasHandle problem

2001-12-05 Thread tonybee

Hello TBUDL,

  When I try to print out received e-mails I am getting the message
  NoCanvasHandle and printing is impossible. Also my curser turns into a fluctuating 
magnifying
  glass and remains that way until I shut down. Any clues/solutions?

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Re: NoCanvasHandle problem

2001-12-05 Thread Marco De Vitis

Hello tonybee, on 06/12/2001 at 0.44 you wrote:

t> When I try to print out received e-mails I am getting the message
t> NoCanvasHandle and printing is impossible. Also my curser turns
t> into a fluctuating magnifying glass and remains that way until I
t> shut down. Any clues/solutions?

I got a similar error the other day when I was running out of RAM.
Maybe this was also your problem?

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Re: Help help

2001-12-05 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Peter!

On 4  Dec 2001 at 21:18:38 you wrote:

> Dierk, confirmed here. (I wouldn't have realized it on my own... ;-) )

> But isn't this a beta issue?

I don't think so. As I wrote - and Thomas confirms in this thread - I
once had a try at the German language file but discarded it after
setting TB! back to use the English one.

What I now need is the place where I can check/change the setting.

If it turns out to be a beta issue we can easily change this topic
over to the right list.



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Editing/Composing Messages

2001-12-05 Thread E Major

In The Bat, when you are editing or composing a message, and you go to the end
of the line, and press the right arrow, it will not go down to the next line,
but keep moving the cursor off into space to the right, or up and down if you use
those arrow keys.

Is there any way to make it act like "normal" programs, like notepad or
somethng? ie to only let the cursor go where there is text?

Thanks guys. The Bat is cool!

Andrew

TB1.54d (I think), Windows 2000

sending this from work, so not actually using the Bat here unfortunately (I
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Resending Messages

2001-12-05 Thread E Major

Another question:

I think I'm just overlooking it, but I don't see a way to just edit and resend
a message that you have already sent in the Bat! (maybe even to another email
address). Does anyone know how to do this? I'm sure a mail prog of the quality of
The Bat! would be able to do this...

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Re: Resending Messages

2001-12-05 Thread Bob

Hello E,

Simply Click on the Email message you wish to re-edit or resend and
drag it into your Outbox..then double click on it and you can edit as
well as resend it to a new addy...Hope this helps..
BOB

Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 7:19:05 PM, you wrote:

EM> Another question:

EM> I think I'm just overlooking it, but I don't see a way to just edit and resend
EM> a message that you have already sent in the Bat! (maybe even to another email
EM> address). Does anyone know how to do this? I'm sure a mail prog of the quality of
EM> The Bat! would be able to do this...

EM> Thanks everybody,

EM> Andrew

EM> TB1.54d, Win 2000





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Re[2]: NoCanvasHandle problem

2001-12-05 Thread tonybee

Hello Marco,

Thursday, December 06, 2001, 12:04:44 PM, you wrote:

MDV> Hello tonybee, on 06/12/2001 at 0.44 you wrote:

t>> When I try to print out received e-mails I am getting the message
t>> NoCanvasHandle and printing is impossible. Also my curser turns
t>> into a fluctuating magnifying glass and remains that way until I
t>> shut down. Any clues/solutions?

MDV> I got a similar error the other day when I was running out of RAM.
MDV> Maybe this was also your problem?

MDV> Ciao,
MDV>   Marco.

Hi Marco:
No, I've got plenty of RAM.  And they are only small e-mails I'm
trying to print
Cheers, Tony

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Re: Resending Messages

2001-12-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi E,

On 06 December 2001 at 13:19:05 [GMT+1100] (which was 02:19 where I
live) E Major wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

EM> I think I'm just overlooking it, but I don't see a way to just
EM> edit and resend a message that you have already sent in the Bat!
EM> (maybe even to another email address). Does anyone know how to do
EM> this? I'm sure a mail prog of the quality of The Bat! would be
EM> able to do this...

Either by dragging the message from sent to the outbox or using the
Message Redirect  function.


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Re: Editing/Composing Messages

2001-12-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi E,

On 06 December 2001 at 13:16:25 [GMT+1100] (which was 02:16 where I
live) E Major wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

EM> In The Bat, when you are editing or composing a message, and you
EM> go to the end of the line, and press the right arrow, it will not
EM> go down to the next line, but keep moving the cursor off into
EM> space to the right, or up and down if you use those arrow keys.

EM> Is there any way to make it act like "normal" programs, like
EM> notepad or somethng? ie to only let the cursor go where there is
EM> text?

There isn't. Once you get used to it, you wouldn't want it any other
way either. It's what enables TB to do columns, justification and
general text orientated formatting. It is known as the free caret /
virtual space interface and is perfectly "normal" for text formatting
editors.

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Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed

2001-12-05 Thread Greg Davis

I get this error message in my log and can't send any mail from The Bat.
What do I need to do to fix it?

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Handle

2001-12-05 Thread Bob

Hello Bat,

  Can anyone explain why Im suddenly being asked for a handle Or
  nickname when trying to add someone to my address book..I dont enter
  anyhitng in that field and yet I keep getting an Error saying
  Duplicate Handle and I cant get beyond that point..?? Help
  

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Re: NoCanvasHandle problem

2001-12-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 5  Dec 2001, 7:20:04 PM, tonybee wrote:

> No, I've got plenty of RAM.  And they are only small e-mails I'm
> trying to print

It's your video ram.

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Re: Submission to the TCHC Board

2001-12-05 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Keith!

On 5  Dec 2001 at 00:56:06 you wrote:

> Attached is a copy of an email that I submitted to the TCHC Board.

No, there isn't. Due to the limitations of TBUDL, which, AFAIR,
forbids attachments.


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Re: Help help

2001-12-05 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Thomas!

On 5  Dec 2001 at 03:43:28 you wrote:

> Either that, or you two have set the interface language to German. In
> that case, TB looks for a file bat_ger.chm or, if not found,
> bat_ger.hlp.

You are - to my knowledge - correct. But ... I remember faintly I had
some trouble with the German help file - I couldn't get it to work
properly. So I discarded it and went back to the then not up-to-date
English file.

As I wrote, I don't use the menu very often to get to help, but I
think once or twice I was able to. I am quite sure because otherwise I
would have asked for directions before.

What I need is either the place where I have to change the setting fot
the help file (I don't have any files connected to the German help
anymore) or a confirmation that it really is an beta issue.



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Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed

2001-12-05 Thread Greg Davis

I can recieve mail but I get this error message in my log when I try to send
mail from The Bat: "Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed...". What do I
need to do to fix it?

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template not behaving

2001-12-05 Thread Rick Reumann

Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. I have for my New message template
a link to a quick template ( %QINCLUDE="Default New" ) so that I can
use this default new for my other accounts.  Then for the Default New
template I want it to always produce the bottom signature but up top
if there is more than one person in the "TO:" field, or it's a list
address, I do no want to
display the "TOFName," so I have an if macro near the top. Below is
the entire "Default New" quick template. The problem is if there is
more than one person in the To: field all it does is clear the whole
message and doesn't leave the signature person.
I'm sure the answer is simple, but I'm new to this so would appreciate
the help. Thanks.

===BEGIN DEFAULT NEW TEMPLATE===
%IF:'%-
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?i)((.*\@){2,}|.*\)"%-
%REGEXPMATCH="%TOLIST"%-
'='':'%TOFName,%-

%Cursor':'%Cursor'

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%FromFName

mailto:%FromAddr

%WRAPPED='%COOKIE="C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\JackHandeySigFile1.txt"'
  -Jack Handey

 END DEFAULT NEW TEMPLATE ===

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Reconfiguration of keys

2001-12-05 Thread Svante Wikman

Hi,  wonder  if  there is any simple way to reconfiguration of the key
(ctrl+shift+up  arrow)  for  delete  present  the  message  and go to
next...

Thanks in advance

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Re: Handle

2001-12-05 Thread Rick Reumann

On Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 9:51:43 PM, Bob wrote:

B>   Can anyone explain why Im suddenly being asked for a handle Or
B>   nickname when trying to add someone to my address book.

You get that when someone already is entered in the address book with
that nickname. I believe the nicknames(handles) have to be unique. You
can have duplicate first and last names but you can't have more
than one nickname the same ( I think :).  This can become a headache
when importing from a file or program that lets you have duplicate
nicknames. If you are importing make sure you don't bother to import
the nickname field or else change the names to be unique.

I'm a newbie so I could be wrong about all of the above.



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Re: Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed

2001-12-05 Thread Alexander Kleiser

Hi,

> I get this error message in my log and can't send any mail from
> The Bat. What do I need to do to fix it?

Are sending mail using server from one ISP when cennected with
another ISP?

Bis demnaechst.
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Re: Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed

2001-12-05 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

On  Wed,  5 Dec 2001 at 20:31:40 GMT -0800 (06/12/2001 11:31 where you
think I live) "Greg Davis"=[GD] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

GD> I  can  recieve mail but I get this error message in my log when I
GD> try  to  send  mail from The Bat: "Relaying denied. IP name lookup
GD> failed...". What do I need to do to fix it?

Maybe  your (SMTP) Server needs Authentication, either POP Before SMTP
or SMTPAUth. Ask your ISP/Administrator for details, either POP before
SMTPorSMTPAuthsupportbyThe   Bat!   (see   account
properties|Transport).


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Re: Resending Messages

2001-12-05 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

On  06 Dec 2001 at 13:19:05 GMT +1100 (06/12/2001 9:19 where you think
I live) "E Major"=[EM] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

EM> I think I'm just overlooking it, but I don't see a way to just edit and resend
EM> a message that you have already sent in the Bat! (maybe even to another email
EM> address). Does anyone know how to do this? I'm sure a mail prog of the quality of
EM> The Bat! would be able to do this...

If you want to resend only, double click the message from Sent Folder,
you  will  go  to  Message  View List. Then From Message menu there is
"resend" menu or Simply using shorcut Shift+Ctrl+Home

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Re: Resending Messages

2001-12-05 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear Syafril, 

 --->>> Syafril Hermansyah / Donnerstag, 06.12.2001, 07:11:23
Resending Messages


> If you want to resend only, double click the message from Sent
> Folder, you will go to Message View List. Then From Message menu
> there is "resend" menu or Simply using shorcut Shift+Ctrl+Home

But this doesn't work if Andrew want's to change the TO: field.

I'm often in the need of re-sending a eMail. This is what I do:
  I go to the 'send' folder and place the cursor on the eMail/ctrl+c
  to Copy it - after a few seconds a small window appears where I can
  select the folder to-copy-to/I select 'outbox' - return/got to
  'outbox' double click on the copied eMail/now you can change
  anything as you like including the TO:

  *** attention ***
  There is a small danger in doing so. When the eMail is copied to the
  outbox this eMail is **ready to send**. Assuming the moment you have
  copied the eMail and this account is checked for new eMails and in
  your account properties you have selected 'combined delivery
  (send+receive)' then this eMail is send instantly without changes.

In fact, this would be a suggestion to Ritlabs: when copying a eMail
from Send to Outbox it should be placed in *saved* mode.


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registering TheBat?

2001-12-05 Thread OMTSalvage
I just had to reinstall windows on my machine along with TheBat, and now it needs to be registered again..

I have the original registration key and checksum from when I first installed it, but I don't have the password that was entered at registration. It won't register without this. I looked around on the site and couldn't find anything on recovering the password for registration. How can I recover my password to register the program?

-Chris


Re[2]: Editing/Composing Messages

2001-12-05 Thread Rémi Pach

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> There isn't. Once you get used to it [the free caret] , you wouldn't
> want it any other way either.

The point is, many people do NOT get used to it because that behaviour
is so unusual, so unlike everything we are used to. In fact I think
that TB's editor is one of its weaknesses. It can't even use
proportional fonts...

> It's what enables TB to do columns, justification and general text
> orientated formatting. It is known as the free caret /

You don't need a free caret to do simple columns or justifications.
How about the Tab key or the spacebar? Besides, since most people have
e-mail clients that use proportional fonts (OE, Eudora, etc.), and
won't bother to change the font to view your fancy creation, these
nicely aligned tables will, in 99% of all cases, look like a big flop
to the recipient. The creation of tables and fancy text formatting in
an e-mail is futile. When I want to send a document with tables I
create it in Word and attach it.

I understand that the outdated free caret concept has its fans, but at
least TB should give a choice instead of forcing it upon users who
don't want it and don't need it.

Another very weak point of the editor is its autoformatting feature.
It FORCES you to insert a line between paragraphs, which is ridiculous
and drives one crazy when one types, for instance, an address, or a
list of items that should not be separated ny a blank line. It's a
typical example of a useful feature that is badly implemented. And if
one doesn't use that feature, one has to use Alt-L extensively because
the text doesn't reflow naturally. It's as tedious as it can get.

That editor is a shocker. If TB didn't have many other redeeming
features that make it overall the best tool on the market, it would be
enough to make me look for something else. I can only hope that future
versions of TB (for instance v.2 which is said to be planned for the
third millennium) will have an optional free caret, proportional fonts
and a decent autoformatting feature that will let the user view and
compose text the way HE wants. Is it too much to ask?

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Re: gifs

2001-12-05 Thread Sergiy Merlyan

Hello Ian,

On  Wednesday, December 05, 2001, at 11:37, GMT -05
  you wrote about "gifs", at least in part:

IC>Is there a way to embed a gif file within the body of a message?

   You can send gif in the message body (not as attached file) in a somewhat
tricky way.
   You should UU (Base64)-encode that gif (there are many third party
programs to do that) and put contents of the encoded file directly to the
message body. Your recipient should then accomplish reverse operation: put
contents of the message body (not all, but encoded gif only) to a file and
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Re: registering TheBat?

2001-12-05 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear OMTSalvage, 

 --->>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Donnerstag, 06.12.2001, 07:59:43
registering TheBat?


> I have the original registration key and checksum from when I first
> installed it, but I don't have the password that was entered at
> registration. It won't register without this. I looked around on the
> site and couldn't find anything on recovering the password for
> registration. How can I recover my password to register the program?

Check with the Company/Person where you registered TB!. If your lucky
he stored your PW in his DB.

I'm not sure, but I think that *all* registered user Info are
Forwarded to Ritlabs. So you also could check with them. But what ever
way you need also to submit proofs that you have registered.

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