Re: Need help with a Klez filter!

2002-07-26 Thread Spike

Hello Kim G. Henkel,

Friday, July 26, 2002, 3:34:59 PM, in a galaxy far, far away,
Kim wrote:


KGH I'm getting spammed to death by this $#!%@*#! Klez virus,
KGH and could really use some help setting up a filter!

I'm not sure what you want TB! to do!  The NAV is catching it
BEFORE TB! even sees it!  Only after the message is stored in a
folder {INBOX} will a filter be used.  NAV catches it and
quarantines it as it is supposed to.

KGH The one common factor is that Norton AV is catching the
KGH virus itself,

This is exactly what is supposed to happen! :-)

If you don't want any virus to reach you, the only option is to
pull the little phone plug out of the wall!  Not what you want :(
I only get about 20 of them a day, which I IGNORE as I don't even
use any anti-virus.  TB! doesn't need it if set up properly, and
with an educated user :)

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Re: TheBat! filtered for spam (again)

2002-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@26 July 2002, 15:56 -0500 (21:56 UK time)  Jonathan Angliss [JA] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Greg
Strong:

 Now I'll probably get flamed.  Just stating my own humble opinion. :)

JA No flame from me ;)

moderator
Ah, but one from me!

This has drifted *way* off-topic. Please move it to TBOT. Thank you.
/moderator

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Re: Get Rid of References Header

2002-07-26 Thread Arjan de Groot

In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mike Dillinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How would I eliminate the References header in my mail
 threads? I have no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting
 complaints from my paranoid IT friends.

Victor Meldrew Mode

I don't believe it!

/Victor Meldrew Mode


Arjan (Answer Mode Please read the currect threads on X-Ray!
/Answer Mode)
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expressions connected by the sign of equality have the same
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Re: test, please ignore

2002-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Roelof,

@26 July 2002, 23:47 +0200 (22:47 UK time)  Roelof Otten [RO] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Clemens 'Gullevek'
Schwaighofer:

CGS You can read it ? How, how do I decode base64 or whatever on the fly?

RO On the fly is gonna be a bit difficult, but select the message, export
RO it as *.msg, open it in a texteditor and add this header to the header
RO section:
RO Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
RO Now you import the edited message back and you can read it in TB.

or use Ctrl-Alt-Shift-X once you've created this filter:

BeginFilter
Name: DeBase64
Active: 1
Source: \\Inbox
Target: \\Inbox
MainSet: 00@
Actions: faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey
ExtCmd: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /IMPORTU=Marck;F=Inbox;I=C:\export.msg
ExtFile: C:\export.msg
HotKey: 57432
SaveTemplate: 
Content-Transfer-Encoding:\20base64\0D\0A%Headers\0D\0A%Text\0D\0A\0D\0A\0D\0A
EndFilter

You'll have to change the /IMPORTU=Marck; to point to your preferred /
default account and change the path to the TB executable if it's not
C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe. Still, it's nice to automate the
task.

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Re: Need help with a Klez filter!

2002-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Kim,

@26 July 2002, 16:34 -0400 (21:34 UK time)  Kim G. Henkel [KGH] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

KGH I'm getting spammed to death by this $#!%@*#! Klez virus,
KGH and could really use some help setting up a filter!

Use an AV package that is compatible with TB, e.g. AVG from
www.grisoft.com, and a TB plug-in to support it. The viruses can be
easily filtered to a quarantine folder. The AVG plug in can be
downloaded from here:

AVG: http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat8us.exe

Other plug-ins for TB include these:

Dr Web: http://www.dials.ru/english/inf/thebat.htm

And these:

ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/SophosNT.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Sophos95.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Panda.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Nod32.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/BitDefSt.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVirNT.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVir95.BAV

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Re: PGP Signing, and drafts

2002-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@26 July 2002, 17:15 -0500 (23:15 UK time)  Jonathan Angliss [JA] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL:

JA ... Now repeat the process, but before sending, stick it in the
JA draft folder, reopen, and send, and it doesn't sign it... any idea
JA why?

Yes. The SignComplete and UsePGP flag settings reset to the
account default values when reopening a draft message. This happens in
reverse when the account is set for signing by default and an unsigned
message is saved as draft and subsequently reopened.

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Re: Get Rid of References Header

2002-07-26 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 17:31, Mike Dillinger wrote:
 
 How would I eliminate the References header in my mail threads?  I have
 no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting complaints from my paranoid IT
 friends.

Then turn threading off (View - Threads - None)... and why (out of
curiosity) are your IT friends paranoid about a header with message IDs
in it?

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Re: PGP Signing, and drafts

2002-07-26 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 19:30, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 JA ... Now repeat the process, but before sending, stick it in the
 JA draft folder, reopen, and send, and it doesn't sign it... any idea
 JA why?
 
 Yes. The SignComplete and UsePGP flag settings reset to the
 account default values when reopening a draft message. This happens in
 reverse when the account is set for signing by default and an unsigned
 message is saved as draft and subsequently reopened.

Wouldn't you class that as a bug though?  Or is that one of those
undocumented features?  Personally I find it rather annoying, there is
a reason I set it in certain templates to sign, and in others, to leave
it unsigned... having to remember to resign it after storing it as a
draft is a pain, especially when you get several hundred emails a day,
without counting the work load as well ;)

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Re[2]: Get Rid of References Header

2002-07-26 Thread Mike Dillinger

Original Message: From: Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:
Friday July 26 2002 06:11PM PT

JA On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 17:31, Mike Dillinger wrote:
 
 How would I eliminate the References header in my mail threads?  I have
 no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting complaints from my paranoid IT
 friends.

JA Then turn threading off (View - Threads - None)... and why (out of
JA curiosity) are your IT friends paranoid about a header with message IDs
JA in it?

It already is disabled and I still get the headers.

Oh they're paranoid because they claim I'm making things easier for
Carnivore.  You know, the typical paranoid deal.  :)  I'm personally not
losing sleep over it, but it would be nice to know how to get rid of it.

Thanks,
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Re: PGP Signing, and drafts

2002-07-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@27 July 2002, 20:14 -0500 (02:14 UK time)  Jonathan Angliss in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The Bat User
List:

 Yes. The SignComplete and UsePGP flag settings reset to the
 account default values when reopening a draft message. This happens
 in reverse when the account is set for signing by default and an
 unsigned message is saved as draft and subsequently reopened.

 Wouldn't you class that as a bug though?

Not really. It's more what it is than a bug (see below).

 Or is that one of those undocumented features?

Again, not really. It's one of the shortcomings of the V1 design.

 Personally I find it rather annoying,

So do I. If you are interested in why - the message data doesn't
include anywhere to save the flag settings. Hopefully v2 will address
this design hole.

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Re: Re[2]: Get Rid of References Header

2002-07-26 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 20:23, Mike Dillinger wrote:

 JA Then turn threading off (View - Threads - None)... and why (out of
 JA curiosity) are your IT friends paranoid about a header with message IDs
 JA in it?
 
 It already is disabled and I still get the headers.

But the emails aren't threaded ;)

 Oh they're paranoid because they claim I'm making things easier for
 Carnivore.  You know, the typical paranoid deal.  :)  I'm personally not
 losing sleep over it, but it would be nice to know how to get rid of it.

Without doing as somebody suggested, and getting a third party involved,
you cannot turn them off.  I'd still love to know how these reference
headers are making your friends paranoid... they don't contain any
information that may be useful to viruses (message IDs don't contain the
posters full email address, TB isn't susceptible to the common viruses
such as Klez etc, so there is another possibility out the window).  If
it is just them that are panicking about a harmless header, then they
should maybe see about contacting their mail administrator to drop the
header on the server, where it'll affect everybody.  Unfortunately they
are heavily used on this list, and in some cases, a lot of other lists
as well.

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Re: Get Rid of References Header

2002-07-26 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Mike Dillinger,

In Reference to your Posting on Friday, July 26 2002 at 06:23 PM PDT,

 It already is disabled and I still get the headers.

Yes... you always will get the headers. For those of us that thread by
reference, you will be denying us the opportunity to thread your messages
into an existing thread... if you remove those headers, every one of your
messages will become orphaned. 

As Jonathan has eluded to, there is no inherent security risk in the
reference headers. 

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SmartBat

2002-07-26 Thread Julius S.

Hi there, tbudl,

  Can  anyone  point  me  to  where  I  can learn about the real utility of
  SmartBat tool?

  Thanks

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Re: Reply templates/Macros/PGP wrapping

2002-07-26 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Nick,

On Friday, July 26, 2002 at 10:19 AM, something compelled Nick
Andriash to type:

 But I'm using TB 1.62 Beta 1 which should be able to handle
 recursive templates, should it not?

Yes, but they have to be formed correctly otherwise you get infinite
loops.  See below.

snip
 Here is my QT2 with a handle of wrap2:

 %COMMENT=%QUOTES%-
 %SETPATTREGEXP=(?is-m)^(.*)\n$%-
 %REGEXPMATCH=%-
 %-%QINCLUDE=#wrap2#
 %COMMENT=

You're missing the vital %IF part.  Without the %IF, TB will keep
spawning the wrap2 macro forever.  What you've quoted is not the wrap2
template, it is a replacement for the wq template.  The wrap2 template
you need can be found in:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbtech@thebat.dutaint.com/msg02338.html


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Re: Get Rid of References Header

2002-07-26 Thread Cricket

On Friday, July 26, 2002 Mike Dillinger stated:

MD Original Message: From: Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:
MD Friday July 26 2002 06:11PM PT

JA On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 17:31, Mike Dillinger wrote:
 
 How would I eliminate the References header in my mail threads?  I have
 no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting complaints from my paranoid IT
 friends.

JA Then turn threading off (View - Threads - None)... and why (out of
JA curiosity) are your IT friends paranoid about a header with message IDs
JA in it?

MD It already is disabled and I still get the headers.

If you are still seeing them on screen, then you probably have view
RFC822 headers turned on. Go to View and uncheck RFC-822 headers.

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Re: Digest

2002-07-26 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello St,

An archeological dig discovered that on Saturday, July 27, 2002 at
00:26 GMT +0200, St - Musaic.Net typed the following:

   How are other members overcoming the non-Digest issue with TB?
  
I wrote a VBScript that will create a MIME-digest from a filter and
mail it out automatically when there are enough messages.

So the answer is, you can do it yourself if you wish.

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Re[2]: test, please ignore

2002-07-26 Thread Mark Wieder

Roelof-

...Ctrl-Alt-Shift-X?...(gags and contorts fingers into a
knot)...still, this is outstanding! I can't wait to try this
out... Thanks.

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Re: multiple SMTP Server for one Account

2002-07-26 Thread John Phillips




Hello Sudip
You wrote  On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, at 23:31:28 [GMT +0545] (03:46:28 Saturday, 27 July 
2002 where I live):-

 I just checked out X-RAY (Someone in TBOT suggested.) Many more
 functions than Autoroute, including X-Headers manipulations. Specially
 designed for TB!

Can someone help me with this?  Is X-Ray an SMTP server, or only sends through a
nominated SMTP (or 2 or 3, etc.?)

My little brain can't work this one out.

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