Re: setcolourgroup macro

2002-11-27 Thread Gerard

ON Thursday, November 28, 2002, 1:09:29 AM, you wrote:
RO> Can't be done with a macro, only with a filter.
RO> As a workaround:
RO> Use in your template
RO> %comment="green message"

RO> and use an outgoing filter that triggers on "comments: green message"
RO> in kludges to set a green color group.

Hi Roelof,

Is that the comment header in the kludges?

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html mailto bug

2002-11-27 Thread Nathan J. Yoder
I think I've found a minor, but annoying mailto: bug.  With an HTML
link that uses the mailto: and a subject line (i.e. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=hello how are you) The Bat! may not
properly insert the subject line into the message composing window. If
the subject line contains spaces (as above) then The Bat! will only
include the first word of the subject in the subject line (i.e.
"hello" instead of "hello how are you").  The only way to get around
this is substitute the HTML escape character %20 (20 hex is a space)
in place of spaces.  Unfortunately most websites don't do this, and
thus you get a truncated subject line when you click on a mailto:
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Re[2]: managing email on remote server

2002-11-27 Thread Razgo
Hello Thomas,

Thursday, November 28, 2002, 3:51:32 PM, you wrote:

Thomas> Hello Razgo,

Thomas> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:40:47 +1000 GMT (28/11/02, 12:40 +0700 GMT),
Thomas> Razgo wrote:

>> Hi, for the life of me i can't remember how to look at my email on the
>> remote server before i download it.

Thomas> Account / Despatch Mail on Server / All Messages



thank you!
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Re: Missing Messages

2002-11-27 Thread Geoff Lane
On 27 November 2002, 23:44, Roelof Otten wrote:

> ... If that doesn't do anything.
> Close TB
> Delete in all folders that appear to be empty the messages.tbi files,
> these are index files that can go corrupt. In case your Windows crash
> happened while you were running TB, it isn't unlikely to explain this.
> When you start TB again, it creates the messages.tbi anew.
~~~

Hi Roelof,

Thanks -- that did the trick and I've now got my messages back.

Strangely, when I searched for lost folders, TB found 27 -- the backup
folders that I created on another drive! So, having found lost folders
and deleted the TBI files on the "empty" ones, I have two copies of
most of my mail folders and nearly all the missing messages. I now
need to spend some time copying these and then killing dupes.

Again, many thanks.

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Re: managing email on remote server

2002-11-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Razgo,

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:40:47 +1000 GMT (28/11/02, 12:40 +0700 GMT),
Razgo wrote:

> Hi, for the life of me i can't remember how to look at my email on the
> remote server before i download it.

Account / Despatch Mail on Server / All Messages

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managing email on remote server

2002-11-27 Thread Razgo
Hi, for the life of me i can't remember how to look at my email on the
remote server before i download it.
any help thanks.
russ

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Re[2]: Recovering deleted filters

2002-11-27 Thread Carter Thomas
HI!

Simon:

Thanks for responding.

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Cartermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 8:04:14 AM, you wrote:

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> 'Lo Carter,

> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:56:28 -0800 your time, you said:

CT>> Is  there  anyway  to  recover  the  deleted  set? (I had about 40+ spam
CT>> filters in there and I don't really want to recreate them from scratch.)

> Did  you back up your TB! message base folder by any chance? That'll be your
> only route now! :(

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Re: setcolourgroup macro

2002-11-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gerard,

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 21:41:02 +0100GMT (26-11-02, 21:41 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

G> I was thinking to set the colour group of an email with a macro in a
G> template, but I can't find a setcolourgroup%

Can't be done with a macro, only with a filter.
As a workaround:
Use in your template
%comment="green message"

and use an outgoing filter that triggers on "comments: green message"
in kludges to set a green color group.


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Re[2]: Reassigning toolbar icon

2002-11-27 Thread mm Meister
Hello Marck,

Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 6:15:29 PM, you wrote:

MDP> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MDP> Hash: SHA1

MDP> Hi mm,

MDP> @26-Nov-2002, 15:32 -0500 (20:32 UK time) mm Meister [MM] in
MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MM>> I would like to have the "get new mail" blue envelope icon
MM>> button perform the Alt+F2 function "check mail for all". Is
MM>> there a way to do this?

MDP> Yes - hold the shift key while pressing the blue envelope icon.

Yow! That's great; exactly what I needed! Thank you Marck.

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Re: Reassigning toolbar icon

2002-11-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo mm,

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:11:35 -0500GMT (27-11-02, 15:11 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

mM> I would like to have the "get new mail" blue envelope icon button
mM>   perform the Alt+F2 function "check mail for all". Is there a way to
mM>   do this?

Don't think so.

mM>   BTW, I have sent this same message yesterday and it did not seem to
mM>   appear on the list.

That's internet for you. Sometimes a message gets stuck for a while or
gets lost forever.

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Re: Missing Messages

2002-11-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Geoff,

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:36:19 +GMT (27-11-02, 22:36 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

GL> partition that holds my TB data was still intact, so I installed TB
GL> and created an account with the same name as I used on NT4 and in the
GL> same directory. TB picked up all my folders, filters, mail settings,
GL> etc. However, most of the folders appear to be empty and "Browse

Odd. When TB claims the old folders, it should see the old messages
too. Are you sure the new account points to the old directory?
Try 'Search for lost folders': Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L and see if that finds
you any new folders.

If that doesn't do anything.
Close TB
Delete in all folders that appear to be empty the messages.tbi files,
these are index files that can go corrupt. In case your Windows crash
happened while you were running TB, it isn't unlikely to explain this.
When you start TB again, it creates the messages.tbi anew.

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Re: Reassigning toolbar icon

2002-11-27 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi mm,

@26-Nov-2002, 15:32 -0500 (20:32 UK time) mm Meister [MM] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MM> I would like to have the "get new mail" blue envelope icon
MM> button perform the Alt+F2 function "check mail for all". Is
MM> there a way to do this?

Yes - hold the shift key while pressing the blue envelope icon.

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Re: Mass mailings

2002-11-27 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Clive,

@26-Nov-2002, 17:50 Clive Taylor [CT] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MDP>> Alternatively, prepare your message in the  normal way and
MDP>> then paste the text into the QT.

CT> Having sent my last reply to you I still have a problem.
CT> Although the 'put file' option does put the text into the
CT> template, it only wraps it to the recipients' window width and
CT> not to, say, 72 characters. Looks like a job for a regex but I
CT> haven't a clue how to progress this.

Okay. You *can* set the Quick template editor to autowrap and
autoformat by setting the editor options to do that before you
start. Alternatively, why not use TB's message editor? After all, it
is designed to be an optimised editor for composing correctly
formatted email message bodies!

Start a new message and write the whole thing in one go. Then,
instead of sending it, copy the message body to the clipboard, open
the mass mail quick template and paste the text in. Cancel the
message and you should then be all set. That's the way I'd do it.

As for a regex to wrap the text, you'd need to modify the rewrap QT
in the FAQ macro and template library. You might ask on TBTECH if
anyone can help with that job since it goes a bit beyond the kind of
discussion that TBUDL is supposed to carry.

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Re[2]: after > no quote style

2002-11-27 Thread Ochrid

Leave a blank at the beginng of the line, and TB will not assume it is
a quote:

-> no blank
 -> with blank

thanks! if all things were that simple...


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Missing Messages

2002-11-27 Thread Geoff Lane
Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 

Hi All,

I've also asked this on DonZeigler.com:

A recent catastrophe fried my NT4 Installation, so I've taken the
opportunity to upgrade the machine to Windows 2000. Thankfully, the
partition that holds my TB data was still intact, so I installed TB
and created an account with the same name as I used on NT4 and in the
same directory. TB picked up all my folders, filters, mail settings,
etc. However, most of the folders appear to be empty and "Browse
deleted messages" doesn't bring back the messages that were there at
the time of the crash.

If I open the messages.tbb files in Notepad, I can see the content of
the messages as plain text -- so the raw data is still there but I
can't find a way to access that content in TB.

Is there a way to recover these lost messages?

TIA,

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Re: Adress book filter

2002-11-27 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Jim,

on Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:14:03 +GMT (26.11.02, 14:14 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

JL> Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender
JL> was in the address book.

The built-in "Known" filter does this. It can be activated to move mails
from AB contacts to a particular folder.

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Re[3]: Reassigning toolbar icon

2002-11-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello mmM, and Allie,

Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 1:59:35 PM, you wrote:



ACM>> ... beside the get new mail is a little down arrow. Hitting
ACM>> this down arrow will bring up a list, and one of the items is to
ACM>> check mail for all.

So. I learned something today, while lurking. :)
This will be useful to me. Thanks, Allie. 

mM> Thanks, Allie. I did know about the dropdown, but thought I could
mM> change the button itself.

Thanks, mM, for posting the query. I'll bet I'm not the only one who
hadn't found the dropdown menu. :)

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Re: Editing received messages

2002-11-27 Thread Melissa Reese
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On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 6:26:09 AM PST, Nick Dutton wrote:

> Is there any way that I can edit a received message? I use many of
> my TB folders for reference and would like to be able to modify some
> of the messages for clarity etc.

Another possibility, without having to modify the actual message, is
to attach a "memo" to it.

You can do this by hitting "Shift-Ctrl-i", and a little memo box will
pop up for you to enter your notes about that particular message.

What I then do is this:

1) I place a "! " at the beginning of each memo, then...

2) In "View/Message List Column", I add the "memo" column, and give it
   a column width of 7 (just enough to show the "!"), and place it
   just after the subject line column.

This way, When I'm looking at the message index, I can see which
message has a memo attached, and if I want to see the memo, I just hit
"Shift-Ctrl-i".

Melissa
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Re[2]: Reassigning toolbar icon

2002-11-27 Thread mm Meister
Hello Allie,

Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 2:51:22 PM, you wrote:

ACM> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
ACM> Mm Meister [MM] wrote:'

MM>> I would like to have the "get new mail" blue envelope icon
MM>> button perform the Alt+F2 function "check mail for all". Is
MM>> there a way to do this?

ACM> TB!'s toolbar buttons cannot be re-configured.

ACM> However, beside the get new mail is a little down arrow. Hitting
ACM> this down arrow will bring up a list, and one of the items is to
ACM> check mail for all.


Thanks, Allie. I did know about the dropdown, but thought I could
change the button itself.

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Re: Reassigning toolbar icon

2002-11-27 Thread Allie C Martin
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mm Meister [MM] wrote:'

MM> I would like to have the "get new mail" blue envelope icon
MM> button perform the Alt+F2 function "check mail for all". Is
MM> there a way to do this?

TB!'s toolbar buttons cannot be re-configured.

However, beside the get new mail is a little down arrow. Hitting
this down arrow will bring up a list, and one of the items is to
check mail for all.

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Re: Bat Closing

2002-11-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Biju,

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 13:04:13 +0530GMT (27-11-02, 8:34 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

BN>   Problem description:
BN> My BAT applicaiton is closing down without any error or message.
BN> I am facing this problem since yesterday [26/11/2002]

Close TB in the regular way. And reboot your pc. Does the problem
stay?
  
BN> Note : Earlier i was using WINDOWS NT 4.0 and a backup was taken of
BN>the mails that i was using in WINDOWS NT 4.0
BN>I have upgarded my OS from WINDOWS NT 4.0 to WINDOWS.NET server

What if you install TB afresh?


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Re: Incoming email to correct Account

2002-11-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter,

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:36:41 +1100GMT (27-11-02, 8:36 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

PE> I still can't get them filtered by Account.
PE> Any ideas?

Well, let's try a different approach. Show us the headers from a
message you'd like to see directed to AccountA and those of a message
to AccountB. (You can view the headers of a message by pressing
Ctrl-Shift-K.)
Just reply to this message. Then go to the main screen of TB, find a
message for accountA, press Ctrl-Shift-K, select the headers, copy
them with Ctrl-C and paste them into your new message. Now do the same
for a message you'd like to go to accountB.
What I don't understand is: you've got two accounts, why do you need
additional filtering. Each message ought to come in it's own account
at your ISP's, so TB shouldn't have to do any filtering at all. But
that'll become clear when I see the the headers. (I suppose.)

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Re: Stupid question about Avg and the bats plug-in

2002-11-27 Thread Melissa Reese
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On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 7:11:20 AM PST, Krister Ekstrom
wrote:

> I'm currently evaluating the pro version of Avg and the bat plug-in,
> and i'm not sure i've done everything correctly.

Hi Krister,

If you were only considering using the free version of AVG, perhaps I
wouldn't bother mentioning this, but since you're thinking about
buying the "pro" version, I will...

If you're looking to purchase an AV, I would recommend you look into
something like NOD32 instead of AVG.  NOD32 also has a TB! plug-in if
that's something you want (it also has its own POP3 scanner, which I
use instead of the TB! plug-in).

Over the past couple of years, I've tried - and purchased - several AV
programs (including purchasing AVG Pro), and I was very disappointed
with AVG Pro. Not only does it seem to miss some well-known viruses,
it was also prone to false positive "detection". Its "heal" function
caused problems as well. On the other hand, NOD32 has always worked
flawlessly for me. It's very fast and doesn't seem to be a drain on
system resources...even for my relatively slow computer.

As far as the "virus free certification" of AVG goes, I feel it's a
useless "feature" anyway, and can actually cause more harm than good
if a less than careful recipient were to depend on the accuracy of
such claims by someone else's AV.

If you're going to pay for an AV, pay for one with a better track
record than AVG.  :-)

Melissa
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Re: Incoming email to correct Account

2002-11-27 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, November 26, 2002, Mark Wieder wrote...

>>> I have two Accounts - BusinessA and BusinessB.

>>> I want email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go to BusinessA.
>>> I want email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go to BusinessB.

>>> To do this I went into  Account | Sorting Office. For 'Incoming Mail' I
>>> set a 'New rule'.
>>> This was ::-
>>>   strings = To: BuinessA.com
>>>   location = Kludges
>>>   Presence = Yes

> I'd remove the "To:" from the string as well. Also, just to check the
> obvious, I'm assuming that "BuinessA" is really "BusinessA", that
> you've set up different folders for the incoming mails, and that
> you've set the filters to move mail to those folders...

Ahh, well spotted.  That would fail a filter unless the headers
contained the line:

  To: BusinessA.com

I didn't even spot that ;)

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Re-Filter Problem with Replied Message Rule

2002-11-27 Thread Paul Stephen
I have defined this rule (replied messages):

Name: TOSPAMB
Source Folder: SentBCC
Move messages to folder: SPAMB
Filtering Strings: SpamButcher -- Anywhere -- Yes
Rule: Active

Now I have messages with SpamButcher as the Sender in my SentBCC
folder.

Yet when I do a re-filter on Replied Messages, nothing is moved or
found.

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

The re-filter operation works fine with all my rules for incoming mail.

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Re: Mass mailings

2002-11-27 Thread Clive Taylor
26 November 2002, 13:43, you wrote:

MDP> Alternatively, prepare your message in the  normal way and then
MDP> paste the text into the QT.


Having sent my last reply to you I still have a problem. Although the
'put file' option does put the text into the template, it only wraps
it to the recipients' window width and not to, say, 72 characters.
Looks like a job for a regex but I haven't a clue how to progress
this.

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Re: culling e-mail addresses from in-box for group mailing to friends

2002-11-27 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello sacksa!

On Monday, November 25, 2002 at 7:33:02 PM you wrote:

> [I also presume that putting all names in the bcc field and then sending
> the message to myself is the easiest way to avoid having everyone on the
> list see everyone else's address?  Correct?]

No, the easiest way is to use a Quick Template for a Mass Mailing.




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Re: Bat Closing

2002-11-27 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, Biju Nair wrote...

> Hello Tbudl,

> I'm using The Bat! Version 1.60c
>   under Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3663 [WINDOWS .NET SERVER]
>   and would like your advice / suggestions for my problem.

>   Problem description:
> My BAT applicaiton is closing down without any error or message.
> I am facing this problem since yesterday [26/11/2002]

>   Steps to reproduce the Problem:
>   compose a new mail and enter the sender mail id startring with
>   "bi..." or "bo"
>   immediately the application closes down...

You have a corrupted history file.  You have two choices.  Delete your
history file (ACCOUNT.HIS in the \ folder) with
TheBat shut down... or... Go to:

- - Options
  - Preferences
- System

And change the "Autocomplete" to use anything BUT an item with
"History" in, ie, set it to "All Addressbooks" but NOT "Input
History".

Hope that helps.

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setcolourgroup macro

2002-11-27 Thread Gerard
Hi Bat Users,

I was thinking to set the colour group of an email with a macro in a
template, but I can't find a setcolourgroup%
Am I missing something or am I missing something?
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Re[2]: Incoming email to correct Account

2002-11-27 Thread Mark Wieder
Jonathan-

Monday, November 25, 2002, 11:32:20 PM, you wrote:

>> I have two Accounts - BusinessA and BusinessB.

>> I want email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go to BusinessA.
>> I want email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go to BusinessB.

>> To do this I went into  Account | Sorting Office. For 'Incoming Mail' I
>> set a 'New rule'.
>> This was ::-
>>   strings = To: BuinessA.com
>>   location = Kludges
>>   Presence = Yes

I'd remove the "To:" from the string as well. Also, just to check the
obvious, I'm assuming that "BuinessA" is really "BusinessA", that
you've set up different folders for the incoming mails, and that
you've set the filters to move mail to those folders...

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Reassigning toolbar icon

2002-11-27 Thread mm Meister
Hi Bats,
I would like to have the "get new mail" blue envelope icon button
  perform the Alt+F2 function "check mail for all". Is there a way to
  do this?
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Re: after > no quote style

2002-11-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ochrid,

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:45:01 +0100 GMT (27/11/02, 17:45 +0700 GMT),
Ochrid wrote:

> Sometimes I want to use -> at the start of a sentence while
> remaining in normal style mode.

> Can this be done?

Yes. :-)

> If so, how?

Leave a blank at the beginng of the line, and TB will not assume it is
a quote:

-> no blank
 -> with blank

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Reassigning toolbar icon

2002-11-27 Thread mm Meister
Hi Bats,
I would like to have the "get new mail" blue envelope icon button
  perform the Alt+F2 function "check mail for all". Is there a way to
  do this?

  BTW, I have sent this same message yesterday and it did not seem to
  appear on the list. For that message, I used the Specials|Mailing
  List to send the email instead of the address book entry nicknamed
  Bats - the addresses are the same though!

  Or maybe this question has been asked so many times, nobody wants to
  answer? :)
  
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Stupid question about Avg and the bats plug-in

2002-11-27 Thread Krister Ekstrom
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Hi Bat! people,
I'm currently evaluating the pro version of Avg and the bat plug-in,
and i'm not sure i've done everything correctly. I don't know if Avg
really checks for viruses or such, and according to the web page of
the Avg system, you can't certify mails with the bats plug-in, but i
think i've seen somewhere the "certified virus free" text. How can i
tell if Avtg really checks for viruses, other than actually getting
one?
TIA

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Re: Adress book filter

2002-11-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jim,

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:14:03 +GMT (26-11-02, 14:14 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

JL> Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender
JL> was in the address book.

Two possibilities, it was the  filter, a default option in the
sorting office or it was a filter using the options 'Adresses must be
in the address book' or 'Adresses must not be in the Address book'
that can be on the 'Advanced' tab of the filter. (You need to scroll
down after selecting the 'Advanced' tab.)

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Re: password on messages

2002-11-27 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, November 26, 2002, tracer wrote...

>> Look under Account -> Properties -> Options. Check "Allow
>> send/fetch without entering the access password (if any)". That
>> should do what you want.

> thanks, shows that after all these years one is still learning...
> reminds me, I just see that my post was semi bounced with following
> message...:

> Your mail to 'TBUDL' with the subject

> password on messages

> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

> The reason it is being held:

> Message may contain administrivia

[snip]

> question is really what triggered the toast...  I obviously will
> have a good look at the stromgrade website as it looks like an
> intriguing message...

mailman reads all mail going to lists and such, and sometimes grabs
messages with certain keywords in (administrative), and save the list
being flooded with accidental unsub commands, the list software often
bounces it up to the list moderators/admin for approval. That is
normally the case anyway ;)

Just as a curious question... why do your replies have a *huge* gap
between the "hello" stuff, and the reply message? This email I'm
replying to was 1/2 way down the screen before it go to the original
post, and on 1024x768 resolution, that is a fair chunk.

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Re: (SOT) Use of Re: in the subject line

2002-11-27 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Tuesday, November 26, 2002, tracer wrote...

>>> As the foreign student found when taking a trip to the UK to
>>> improve his English ... and the first thing he saw when exiting
>>> the train station was "HAIR pronounced SUCCESS" ... and promptly
>>> gave up *ever* trying to understand the English language like a
>>> native of this crazy island < lol >

>>  and apparently American's spell Cheese 'KRAFT'... ;) So
>> it's no real wonder people are always confused ;)

> Other people know that Kraft isnt cheese.. Like French isnt French
> mustard..(g). seems to be a matter of taste

Yes, there is nothing quite like a good English cheese ;)

> Sorry justt back from hospital as a pickup tried to drive me off the
> road and while I cannot remember what happened I am in better
> condition then my bike or the car from what I hear. Car took a
> runner... Anyway trying to work my way trhough the mail...

Ewww... sorry to hear that. Hope you recover quickly, and get back to
full health.

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after > no quote style

2002-11-27 Thread Ochrid

Hello all,
the question has probably been asked before, but I haven't got a
clue as to where to search for, so here goes - with apologies if
the answer is in the Archive:

When quoting TB! inserts > and italicizes the text after >.

Sometimes I want to use -> at the start of a sentence while
remaining in normal style mode.

Can this be done?
If so, how?
Thanks!

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Re: Recovering deleted filters

2002-11-27 Thread Simon
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'Lo Carter,

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:56:28 -0800 your time, you said:

CT> Is  there  anyway  to  recover  the  deleted  set? (I had about 40+ spam
CT> filters in there and I don't really want to recreate them from scratch.)

Did  you back up your TB! message base folder by any chance? That'll be your
only route now! :(

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Thebat 1.62 Beta 16

2002-11-27 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello TheBat! UDL List,

what a jump from Beta 7 to beta 16.  :-)

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Re: Editing received messages

2002-11-27 Thread Simon
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'Lo Nick,

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 14:26:09 + your time, you said:

ND> Is there any way that I can edit a received message? I use many of my TB
ND> folders  for  reference  and would like to be able to modify some of the
ND> messages for clarity etc.

On  the  Message  menu,  |Save  As|  to a folder. Open saved email in a text
editor,   make  changes,  save.  The  import  back  into  TB!  (Tools/Import
Messages/From .MSG/.EML Files.

You'll  have  to be careful here as after you've imported the edited message
you  will  have  two  emails,  the  original  and  the  one  you edited. The
differences between the original and the edited email will be the time stamp
and  the  alterations  you  made.  Best  in  that case to scrap the original
unedited version after successfully editing the email.

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Re: Adress book filter

2002-11-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jim,

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:14:03 + GMT (26/11/02, 20:14 +0700 GMT),
Jim Lanyon wrote:

> Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender
> was in the address book.  I would be grateful if this could be
> reposted.

Under Account / Sorting Office, you can find this under the Advanced
tab.

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Re: Bat Closing

2002-11-27 Thread Lars Geiger
Hi Biju,
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 13:04:13 [GMT +0530], you wrote:

BN>   Problem description:
BN> My BAT applicaiton is closing down without any error or message.
BN> I am facing this problem since yesterday [26/11/2002]

BN>   Steps to reproduce the Problem:
BN>   compose a new mail and enter the sender mail id startring with
BN>   "bi..." or "bo"
BN>   immediately the application closes down...

Sounds like a problem with your history file. Try to deactivate auto-
complete (Options -> Preferences -> System) and see if that solves your
problem. If it does, go to your the directory of that account and delete
the file "ACCOUNT.HIS". Then you can reenable the auto-completion.

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Re: Adress book filter

2002-11-27 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Jim,

on Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:14:03 +GMT (26.11.02, 14:14 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

JL> Some time ago someone produced a filter that identified if the sender
JL> was in the address book.  I would be grateful if this could be
JL> reposted.

I sent a reply yesterday, but it didn't get through yet. So here's another
try:

The built-in "Known" filter does this. It can be activated to move mails
from AB contacts to a particular folder.

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Re: Recovering deleted filters

2002-11-27 Thread Spike
Hello Carter Thomas,

On or about Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 07:56:28GMT -0800
(which was 10:56 AM in the tropics where I live) Carter Thomas
wrote;

CT> I accidently deleted a set of office filters for sorting incoming
CT> mail. (I thought I was deleting just one rule but ended up deleting
CT> the entire set.)

Oops!

CT> Is there anyway to recover the deleted set? (I had about 40+ spam
CT> filters in there and I don't really want to recreate them from
CT> scratch.)

Did you have any backups made _since_ you created the spam filters?

The 3 basic rules of computer data are;

1.  Make regular Backups
2.  Make regular Backups
3.  Make regular Backups

The 3 basic rules of deletion are;

1.  Are you sure?
2.  Are you really sure?
3.  Are you ABSOLUTELY sure?

;-)

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Recovering deleted filters

2002-11-27 Thread Carter Thomas
HI! 

tbudl:

I accidently deleted a set of office filters for sorting incoming
mail. (I thought I was deleting just one rule but ended up deleting
the entire set.)

Is there anyway to recover the deleted set? (I had about 40+ spam
filters in there and I don't really want to recreate them from
scratch.)

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Re: Bat Closing

2002-11-27 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

BN>>   This was the problem i was facing yesterday [26/11/2002] but
BN>>   from today [27/11/2002] onwards the moment i enter the
BN>>   sender's mail ID in the "To" Row of new message BAT closes
BN>>   down without any error.

BN>>   I would also like to mention that i am able to send the
BN>>   message if i use the senders Id from Address Book.

> This is a known problem in the address history list processing on
> XP. Please upgrade to the latest (1.61) version on TB or to the
> latest beta (1.62beta7).

I hadn't realised they fixed that ;) Glad to see they have though, was
certainly frustrating. I guess that means my post can be ignored ;)

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Re: Editing received messages

2002-11-27 Thread Daniel Grunberg
Wed, 27 Nov 2002 14:26:09 [GMT +] (9:26 AM EST here) Nick Dutton
wrote:

> Is there any way that I can edit a received message?  I use many of
> my TB folders for reference and would like to be able to modify some
> of the messages for clarity etc.

Redirect the message to yourself. Edit the message. Do not send the
message. Save the message in your Outbox. Move the message from your
Outbox to your storage folder.

 1. Highlight the message in the TheBat! message window.

 2. Choose Message -> Re-direct.

 3. Put your email address on the "To:" line.

 4. Edit the message.

 5. Close AND Save the message.

 6. Delete the original unedited message.

 7. Move the redirected, edited message from your Outbox to the
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Editing received messages

2002-11-27 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello,

Is there any way that I can edit a received message?  I use many of my TB
folders for reference and would like to be able to modify some of the messages
for clarity etc.

Regards,


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Re: Bat Closing

2002-11-27 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Biju,

@27-Nov-2002, 13:04 +0530 (07:34 UK time) Biju Nair [BN] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 ... 

BN>   This was the problem i was facing yesterday [26/11/2002] but
BN>   from today [27/11/2002] onwards the moment i enter the
BN>   sender's mail ID in the "To" Row of new message BAT closes
BN>   down without any error.

BN>   I would also like to mention that i am able to send the
BN>   message if i use the senders Id from Address Book.

This is a known problem in the address history list processing on
XP. Please upgrade to the latest (1.61) version on TB or to the
latest beta (1.62beta7).

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Re: password on messages

2002-11-27 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 03:56, tracer wrote:

> reminds me, I just see that my post was semi bounced with following
> message...:

> Your mail to 'TBUDL' with the subject

> password on messages

> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

> The reason it is being held:

> Message may contain administrivia

> Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
> notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
> this posting, please visit the following URL:

> http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/confirm/tbudl/etc etc

> question is really what triggered the toast...  I obviously will
> have a good look at the stromgrade website as it looks like an
> intriguing message...

IIRC this has happened to me too with messages containing the word
password among the first lines.

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