Re[2]: Trouble posting to list?
Working great here so far! - Thanks, runamonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, January 26, 2003, 8:07:11 PM, runamonk Scribbed: TF> Hello Bruno, TF> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:56:30 -0500 GMT (25/01/03, 22:56 +0700 GMT), TF> Bruno Fernandes wrote: >> Anyone else having trouble posting to the list today? After getting >> around he fact that digests of these lists lack a reply-to address I'm >> finding that mail sent to the list is not going through due to some >> server authentication error with the list's address. Hrmpph. TF> Testing if this message comes through, I have no trouble. TF> It appears that you created your message at 10:56:30 -0500 GMT but TF> only sent it out at 22:42:35 -0500 (EST). While I first thought there TF> indeed appears to be a delay of roughly 12 hours, you message in fact TF> arrived in my mailbox within just over a minute from your sending it, TF> i.e. at 03:43:58 -. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble posting to list?
Hello Bruno, On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:56:30 -0500 GMT (25/01/03, 22:56 +0700 GMT), Bruno Fernandes wrote: > Anyone else having trouble posting to the list today? After getting > around he fact that digests of these lists lack a reply-to address I'm > finding that mail sent to the list is not going through due to some > server authentication error with the list's address. Hrmpph. Testing if this message comes through, I have no trouble. It appears that you created your message at 10:56:30 -0500 GMT but only sent it out at 22:42:35 -0500 (EST). While I first thought there indeed appears to be a delay of roughly 12 hours, you message in fact arrived in my mailbox within just over a minute from your sending it, i.e. at 03:43:58 -. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "I am loyal to my employer at all costs Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Trouble posting to list?
Anyone else having trouble posting to the list today? After getting around he fact that digests of these lists lack a reply-to address I'm finding that mail sent to the list is not going through due to some server authentication error with the list's address. Hrmpph. I suppose this message is somewhat of a test at the same time - to see if a new message (non-reply) goes through... Bruno -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Splitting TBUDL DIGESTS
I've read enough information in the archives to know TB! does not support automatic bursting of MIME digests. But that it's possible using filters as a work-around. First, I'd like to officially request that MIME digest bursting be added to the program. This is a pretty basic feature for a "professional" email program. Agent, as anyone who's researched this topic knows, handles this very well. So I have read and understood the details behind the filter method. Save out all attached messages that compose the digest and then import them back into TB! to your desired location. Sounds simple enough. However, this does not currently work for TBUDEL nor TBBETA. Searching the archives brings up some points about a strangely formatted MIME digest (multiple boundaries). Has anyone been able to work around this? If not, is anything going to be done to correct the digests? They also lack a reply-to address tagged to each message. Reading a single message at a time will then not allow you to reply to the list unless you use yet another work-around by creating a Reply folder filter. At this time, it seems most of TB's shortcomings are exposed when trying to use the support lists themselves. My only solution at this time is to configure the lists to never send me mail. I am not interested in receiving the messages individually - the count for TBUDL is far too high for my liking. If maintenance is being done to the digests, may I also suggest taht the list server be configured to send out only 2 digests per list per day? The whole point of a digest is to get the list in a tidy package. Receiving a ton of digests for one list each day is counter-productive. It also segments the postings because TB can't deal with bursting the contents (to allow for re-threading). Thanks. Bruno -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter charset...
Hello ~John, On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:06:21 -0600 GMT (27/01/03, 09:06 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: > How would I go about filtering every charset except my own ? > Or in other words, has anyone had any problems filtering everything > except charset=US ? I would go about by using charset=US as the string to filter on, presence: No, Location: Kludges. Does this not work? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It was so hot during football practice that a lot of kids keeled over from nervous prostitution. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter charset...
How would I go about filtering every charset except my own ? Or in other words, has anyone had any problems filtering everything except charset=US ? -- Best Regards, ~John, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Some email programs' [Reply] don't address the Reply-To: inthe message being read
Saturday, January 25, 2003, 6:35:38 PM, Daniel wrote: DG>AOL users who hit their [Reply] button, generate a reply addressed DG>to me, and only to me. Yes but you're saying they're using the reply function... I'm suggesting they should use the Reply All function which I understand from AOL users does what you're wanting. -- Cheers, Anne The Bat Email - Unofficial Support Forum: http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple new messages with email URL
Sunday, January 26, 2003, 10:27:29 AM, greekdivers wrote: g>The eml are associated with the bat, What i can do to prevent this g>from appearing except "don't check eml extensions at startup" Have you checked the menu entry for file associations to make sure it is ticked? Options » Preferences » Applications and tick the boxes under the Associate The Bat! with specific file types/URL's. -- Cheers, Anne The Bat Email - Unofficial Support Forum: http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Click & Hang
Sunday, January 26, 2003, 2:11:36 PM, Mark wrote: MP> I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but since I chose to MP> let The Bat handle Mapi, that first worked fine, now however, when I MP> click on an Email-address (mailto:), multiple copies of Internet MP> Explorer start up and in most cases (when I can't close them fast MP> enough) make hang the computer. Hi Mark, I had exactly the same problem a few weeks back from the same cause. I mailed Ritlabs about it and this is their response - I trid it and it worked for me:-) > Please set any other program as default email client (Control Panel / > Internet Options / Programs tab) and press button "Apply", then > return The Bat!. -- Cheers, Anne The Bat Email - Unofficial Support Forum: http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Miguel, On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 at 14:22:26[GMT +0100](which was 13:22 where I live) you wrote: > I am sure you have seen in this and other TB > lists "MID links" like: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If you double click on it it will "jump" and take you to the root > message of this thread. Yes, I found that out for the first time earlier today. Now, if the same thing could be implemented in the main Message view window with a key stroke capability too it would make me (and hopefully a few others) happy :-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/5 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. It is better to wear out than to rust out. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Miguel, On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 at 16:54:09[GMT +0100](which was 15:54 where I live) you wrote: > Alt+Left_Arrow (or right click and select "Move to previously > viewed"). But that only takes you back the messages you have read in that particular session. It doesn't take you to the number (1) (the original) message of the particular (2) that you might be reading. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/5 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. Life can only be understood backwards but it must be lived forwards. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Peter, On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 at 16:18:22[GMT +0100](which was 15:18 where I live) you wrote: > Select (1), than select two and read it. Now use + to move > to the "previous selected message" and + to move to the "next > selected message". This way you can toggle between (1) and the (2) you > were coming from to (1). A good idea but you've got to be able to find the correct (1) to start off with which, sometimes, isn't so easy. Also I think I'd invariably forget to select (1) even if I could always find it :-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/5 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. Love is composed of a single soul inhabiting two bodies.|Aristotle Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Peter, > And how to "jump back" from (1) to _the correct_ (2)? That's > difficulty if there're several "second level" replies, isn't it? Alt+Left_Arrow (or right click and select "Move to previously viewed"). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating backup file deletes file
Hello Peter, On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:27:02 +0100 GMT (26/01/03, 22:27 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF>> Or a kind of blockage, so that you get a dialog box when you try to TF>> back up to the same file. > You mean something like: > C:\bla\quirk\backup.tbk already exists. > Do you want to replace it? No. I mean like: C:\bla\quirk\backup.tbk already exists. Please chose another name. Simply because TB's backup system won't work if you use the sme file name for source and destination. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If life deals you lemons, make lemonade; if it deals you tomatoes, make Bloody Marys. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating backup file deletes file
Hello Thomas, On Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 11:04:41 PM you [TF] wrote (at least in part): PP>>> Have you chosen the existing archive and the new archive being the PP>>> same file? >> Perhaps a note in the help file to warn of this would be useful for >> new users? Seems to be a good idea. In general backing up incremental ain't done to the same file and logic tells me I have to keep the basic file when creating the incremental changes, but it seems not every body thinks following this logic. TF> Or a kind of blockage, so that you get a dialog box when you try to TF> back up to the same file. You mean something like: C:\bla\quirk\backup.tbk already exists. Do you want to replace it? ??? I mean ... if somebody says _YES_ at this point, what can be done about him, WITHOUT annoying a dozen of other people by implementing a function that takes away control from me as an advanced user? A function that denies me to store the backup as any file _I want_, build in The Bat!, not limited through the OS, ain't a step forward. So the only way out of this trouble is: if I'm in doubt, and doubt being defined here as "I'm not 100% sure what I'm doing.", I do _never ever_ press "Yes" on a "Overwrite / Replacement Confirmation Message"; never ever. Only because some few think it is a good idea to do so is no argument to restrict lots of others :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) The universe is like a grapefruit -- it's yellow and dimply, and some people have half of one for breakfast. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Richard, On Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 11:10:59 AM you [RW] wrote (at least in part): RW> Yes, so I want to be able to have an option that, whilst reading the RW> third number 2 message, I can toggle between that and the original RW> number 1. And how to "jump back" from (1) to _the correct_ (2)? That's difficulty if there're several "second level" replies, isn't it? OK, but here's a possible "work around": Select (1), than select two and read it. Now use + to move to the "previous selected message" and + to move to the "next selected message". This way you can toggle between (1) and the (2) you were coming from to (1). this shortcut works "multilevel", means: if you "walk down" a tree of messages + will bring you up once more with every additional use. HTH -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) For all variables = 'assholes': let length(walk) > length(pier) Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Click & Hang
Hello Bats, I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but since I chose to let The Bat handle Mapi, that first worked fine, now however, when I click on an Email-address (mailto:), multiple copies of Internet Explorer start up and in most cases (when I can't close them fast enough) make hang the computer. I really don't understand what IE (which is not my default browser) has to do with it. I allready tried to find out in the map-options, but the only place I still found a referral to IE was under URL file-transfer-protocol (not sure about exact name, I'm only translating from Dutch), and I don't think this has anything to do with my problem. Or am I mistaken? -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Richard, > Let's hope the option is implemented although I've been away for a > few days and still haven't visited the wishlist - off there now. It should be fairly easy to implement since they already have some of the needed code there. I am sure you have seen in this and other TB lists "MID links" like: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you double click on it it will "jump" and take you to the root message of this thread. So, all Ritlabs would have to do is "jump" to the MID that appears on the In-Reply-To: header line or, for the root, to the first MID in the References: line. If I have time this afternoon I will take a look at doing it with PowerPro. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
multiple new messages with email URL
Hello tbudl, When i hit an e-mail URL i get 2 new messages windows instead of 1. Is there a registry fix for that? Also many times at The bat start up i get a window Associate eml with The bat? The eml are associated with the bat, What i can do to prevent this from appearing except "don't check eml extensions at startup" -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Beautiful girls don't bother me...but I wish they WOULD! Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Thorsten, You forgot to add your own words of wisdom which I was looking forward to reading ;-( -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/5 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. Only a mediocre person is always at his best Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving to original message
Hi Richard, Sonntag, 26. Januar 2003 11:29 you wrote: RW> Hello Roelof, RW> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 at 08:42:44[GMT +0100](which was 07:42 where I RW> live) you wrote: >> Yes. you're probably sorting in descending order, but that wouldn't >> really matter. RW> I am sorting that way and I agree, it shouldn't matter but it does RW> seem to. If I turn it off the threading changes considerably but I'm RW> being difficult because I prefer descending order :-) >> And you're having unchecked: >> Options -> Preferences -> Message list -> Automatically adjust first >> column width for threaded view RW> No, that's always been checked. >> What I mean by level is this (all messages with same level have same >> number): >> 1-Blablabla >> | >> 2-Re:Blablabla >> | >> 2-Re:Blablabla >> | | >> | 3-Re:Blablabla >> | | >> | 4-Re:Blablabla >> | >> 2-Re:Blablabla >> | >> 3-Re:Blablabla RW> Yes, so I want to be able to have an option that, whilst reading the RW> third number 2 message, I can toggle between that and the original RW> number 1. That would seem to be a useful option whether reading in RW> descending order or not. If the read message ID were included in the RW> reply, as per Anthony in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> then RW> it is possible to click on that and the whole thread comes up in the RW> "View Folder" box but I never use that. I always rely on the main Bat! RW> display (as per your screenshot) to do all my reading. RW> Thanks for taking the time to send me the screenshot though. RW> -- RW> Best regards, RW> Richard RW> | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/5 RW> | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 RW> | and using the best browser: Opera. RW> Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself. RW> RW> Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: RW> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best Regards, Thorsten Bruchhäusermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Roelof, On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 at 08:42:44[GMT +0100](which was 07:42 where I live) you wrote: > Yes. you're probably sorting in descending order, but that wouldn't > really matter. I am sorting that way and I agree, it shouldn't matter but it does seem to. If I turn it off the threading changes considerably but I'm being difficult because I prefer descending order :-) > And you're having unchecked: > Options -> Preferences -> Message list -> Automatically adjust first > column width for threaded view No, that's always been checked. > What I mean by level is this (all messages with same level have same > number): > 1-Blablabla > | > 2-Re:Blablabla > | > 2-Re:Blablabla > | | > | 3-Re:Blablabla > | | > | 4-Re:Blablabla > | > 2-Re:Blablabla > | > 3-Re:Blablabla Yes, so I want to be able to have an option that, whilst reading the third number 2 message, I can toggle between that and the original number 1. That would seem to be a useful option whether reading in descending order or not. If the read message ID were included in the reply, as per Anthony in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> then it is possible to click on that and the whole thread comes up in the "View Folder" box but I never use that. I always rely on the main Bat! display (as per your screenshot) to do all my reading. Thanks for taking the time to send me the screenshot though. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/5 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Anthony, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 at 18:51:49[GMT -0800](which was 02:51 where I live) you wrote: >> I've searched high and low through the key strokes list and can't find >> out how to move to the "original" message that I am reading the answer >> to. > Ctrl + Backspace Just found out that, if I turn off "sort by descending order" (I happen to prefer that) our suggestion does work so thanks ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/5 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. The earth has music for those who listen Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
