Backup question revisited

2003-07-02 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi Bat! people,
Sorry for the cross posting, but i figured someone somewhere might
have an answer to this.
I have just switched from a windows 98 machine to one with XP Pro, and
i have made a backup of my TB settings using the built-in backup tool.
When i made the backup, i chose to backup everything possible, that is
my common folders, my accounts, (three) and my account and global
options. When restoring, i only got to process one of three accounts
and my common folders were missing. Pressing the key combo for
scanning for lost folders gave the result that no folders were lost.
What gives here? What's more, i don't have my quick templates anymore,
but i have my folder and ab templates. How do i get my quick templates
back? And the last question, what registry key should i look for and
copy if my copy of TB is unregistered?
I'd be greatful for any answer you could provide me with.
Thanks much!

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Re:MailFrontier.Com Reply

2003-07-02 Thread Mark
BM On Tue 1-Jul-03 1:12pm -0400, Mark wrote:

 It is pretty easy to patch The Bat! to get rid of the X-mailer
 header (see my mail) without using X-ray or anything else.

BM It's trivial to do it manually, but how do you do it automatically?

You need a good hex editor

M



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Re[2]: MailFrontier.Com Reply

2003-07-02 Thread John Morse
I'm replying to this:
 You need a good hex editor

Yes, UltraEdit 10 works great!

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Re: MailFrontier.Com Reply

2003-07-02 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 2-Jul-03 11:07am -0400, Mark wrote:

BM On Tue 1-Jul-03 1:12pm -0400, Mark wrote:

 It is pretty easy to patch The Bat! to get rid of the X-mailer
 header (see my mail) without using X-ray or anything else.

BM It's trivial to do it manually, but how do you do it automatically?

 You need a good hex editor

Oh, you patch the executable.  This just encourages authors to put out
executables with compression and/or encryption (such as with JPSoft's
4NT).  Alternately, RITLabs could defeat that by checking to see if
certain data fields have changed.

Since I'm now using X-Ray to do some external pre-inbox filtering,
I've also added filtering to change X-Mailer (and I've added a X-Ray
line to the kludges - it's not forced upon me).

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Re: ZDNet article

2003-07-02 Thread Chris Montgomery
Monday, June 30, 2003, 9:54:13 AM, Marek Mikus wrote:

 On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 
 interesting article about incredi*spywareandadware*mail:
 http://email.about.com/cs/incredimailtips/a/et063003.htm 

Poking around on about.com, I ran across this review of TB:
http://email.about.com/cs/winclientreviews/gr/the_bat.htm

Some might say that one of the listed Cons, Can't send HTML emails,
would actually be a Pro. :)

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E-Mail Reflector for Secure Bat

2003-07-02 Thread lists01
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Hash: MD5

All,

 Several days ago I e-mailed Marck to see if he knew of any e-mail
 reflector for Secure Bat! users. He tole me to e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 request to be subscribed. I immediately did so. Thus far I have received
 no reply from that address, nor have I received any message from a Secure
 Bat! mailing list. Does anyone on this reflector know anything about this?
 Does this reflector exist? Is there any activity on it?

 Thanks much!

- --

Best regards,
Scott A. Blystone
Rochester, New York
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ #20150

Profound thought for the day:
Why is it you must wait until night to call it a day?

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Re: Backup question revisited

2003-07-02 Thread Allie Martin
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Krister Ekstrom, [KE] wrote:

KE I have just switched from a windows 98 machine to one with XP Pro,
KE and i have made a backup of my TB settings using the built-in backup
KE tool. When i made the backup, i chose to backup everything possible,
KE that is my common folders, my accounts, (three) and my account and
KE global options. When restoring, i only got to process one of three
KE accounts and my common folders were missing. Pressing the key combo
KE for scanning for lost folders gave the result that no folders were
KE lost. What gives here? What's more, i don't have my quick templates
KE anymore, but i have my folder and ab templates. How do i get my
KE quick templates back? And the last question, what registry key
KE should i look for and copy if my copy of TB is unregistered?

Did any errors occur while doing the backup?

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Can't get mail

2003-07-02 Thread Adam

I'm having a problem getting mail today. It's weird. When I click
Dispatch mail, the window appears, but just stays there. When I click
Get Mail, the connection centre appears, it says:

Status: Checking INBOX

And just stays like that indefinitely.  Elapsed says 00:01 and doesn't
change.

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 Adam



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Tweaking the X-Mailer line internally

2003-07-02 Thread Spike
Hello Bat'ters,

I'll start off with the following, which is to be taken very
seriously!

**WARNING** **WARNING** **WARNING** **WARNING** **WARNING**
===
   Do not try this unless you know what you are doing!!
===
**WARNING** **WARNING** **WARNING** **WARNING** **WARNING**

The poster specifically disclaims any damage done to your system by
employing this 'trick!!'  If your BAT winds up with a broken wing,
don't blame me!

I asked for clarification, but none was forthcoming, so I dusted off
and put my bell bottoms  Nehru jacket back on and dug into things a
bit. I found the correct area of The Bat!'s executable on the first
try and changed it (see X-Mailer entry above)!

The text to search for is 'The Bat! (v1.62r)' [without the quotes]

There are multiple locations with this text.  Better to search to the
hex offset below!  Like I said, do this ONLY if you know what you are
doing!

I love UltraEdit!!  :-)  It makes 'hex-patching' so easy

In [thebat.exe - 4.52 MB (4,742,480 bytes)] V1.62r it begins at Offset
0x3827a9.  The only restriction is that whatever you change it to, it
must be contained within the 17 characters of the original data
string.  I didn't try to expand the string length, and don't know what
havoc that might cause to the executable.

This reminds me of the old days of the Commodore 64, when I'd make
custom CIA and kernel chips for people.  Mine came up saying This
Commodore 64 piece of  belongs to Spike!

Yes, I used to be quite a formidable 'script kiddie' back in my
misspent youth!  Ah, those were the glory days.. :-)


-- 
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Spike

Quote for the moment:
It is bad luck to be superstitious.

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 XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail!
/ \   Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML).

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Tweaking the X-Mailer line internally

2003-07-02 Thread Spike
Hello tbudl'ers,

Further to my post on the TWEAK, please, if you try this, take the
ORIGINAL copy of the unmodified executable [thebat.exe] and rename it
to [thebat_orig.exe] so that you have a working original to go back
to.   The modified file (X-Mailer changed) needs to be called
[thebat.exe] for everything to work correctly.  This is from actual
experience with trying to run it as a different filename.  It doesn't
correspond with any of the registry entries and causes all kinds of
problems when run as a different file name - trust me!

OK, once again,  don't try this unless you know what you are doing.
You are messing about with the actual program code at the heart of TB!

Also, I suggest you copy back the original copy of the executable
before upgrading your TB!  I have no idea whether the modified file
may cause problems during an upgrade for version.  Remember, this is a
free suggestion and experimental at best.  If you are not experiencing
lost mails due to the X-Header (I am!) do not even consider doing the
modification.

This is strictly a work-around for this one issue, which I hope the
developers will address in a future version, or at least SUE the
companies who are creating this mess.  TB! is no more a spammer's tool
than OE or any other MUA.

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Spike

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Re: Verify S/MIME signature?

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Greg-

Tuesday, July 1, 2003, 1:14:21 PM, you wrote:

GS I just received a Thawte Free Certificate. I would like to verify a good
GS signature.  I thought this would be OT, and sent to the TBOT.
GS Unfortunately it looks like Yahoo strips signature from the email, so
GS TBUDL is default option.  Thanks!

I get Invalid Signature with details:

The Issuer of this certificate chain could not be found.
Issued to: Thawte Freemail Member
Issued by: Personal Freemail RSA
   2000.8.30
Valid from 30 Jun 2003 to 29 Jun 2004

-Mark Wieder

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Re: Backup question revisited

2003-07-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Krister,

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:38:23 +0200 GMT (02/07/03, 19:38 +0700 GMT),
Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 I have just switched from a windows 98 machine to one with XP Pro, and
 i have made a backup of my TB settings using the built-in backup tool.

I moved my mother's TB from a Win95 machine to WinXP Home last month.

Step 1: Export HKCU / Software / RIT into the TB directory intoo a
file tb.reg.

Step 2: Zip the whole The Bat! directory. It is a good idea to run a Purge 
Compress All Folders first - saved some 7MB (about 50%).

Step 3: Unzip the whole zip file into the folder structre of the new
computer. There is no need to create a The Bat! directory first, as
this is part of you zip file.

Step 4: Run the tb.reg in order to get the key imported into your
registry.

Step 5: Run TB. Everything should be as it was before. Of course, this
method requires that you use the same drive and paths.

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Thomas.

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I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.

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automated response

2003-07-02 Thread jeanluc
De vuelta en mi oficina el lunes
Back on Monday


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