Re: sticky splash screen

[Ochrid]

Hello Hugh,

Saturday, August 23, 2003, 8:36:34 PM, you wrote:

HTH> This works for v1 and, I assume, for v2.

Yes, it does. I first thought it didn't, but that
was because I had "attached" the short cut to the
Menu Start (using Win XP). With a fresh short cut
the 'nologo' it works.

However, now that I know the rather nice screen
can be clicked away quickly,  I'll leave in place.

Thank you all for your help.

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Re: sticky splash screen

[Ochrid]

Hello Hugh,

Saturday, August 23, 2003, 8:36:34 PM, you wrote:

HTH> Add "/NOLOGO" to the command line that
HTH> loads The Bat!  For example:
HTH> "C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe" /NOLOGO

HTH> This works for v1 and, I assume, for v2.

That worked for me too, but not anymore.
I am now using beta 2.0.


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Re: sticky splash screen

[Ochrid]

Hello Bill,

Saturday, August 23, 2003, 9:59:24 PM, you wrote:

BBTE> I usually just press Alt-F2 and TB starts
BBTE> checking for mail while the splash screen is
BBTE> still there.

Interesting!
I'll try that.

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Re[2]: Filtering problem

[Karen Kay]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Allie Martin wrote:
KK>> Right. My problem was that I redid the filters twice, and didn't
KK>> know what file to delete. Deleting the account.srx file seems to
KK>> have done the trick so far.

> Did you manually recreate the filters from scratch.

Yes.

> For the future, you could look at copying the filters to text file by
> just selecting each filter, hitting CTRL-C and pasting them in your
> favourite editor. When finished, delete the srx file, restart TB!, open
> the sorting offices and then paste the text files contents into the
> inbox filter set.

Thanks.

Karen




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Re: strange return - blaster worm

[Mary Bull]

Hello Jane!

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, 2:15 PM, you wrote:

>>Received a strange 'return' just now and would
>>appreciate your collective experience in understanding
>>it.

J> ... Sobig.f.

J> details.pif is just one of many variants of the
J> virus payload being sent around by these emails.

ACK. This behavior has been discussed at length on Rootsweb's
Virus-Discussion List. Here's one easy-to-read website URL regarding
this:

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/sobig_f.shtml

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Help file

[Paul Richardson]

While I'm generally happy with The Bat! as a powerful and versatile
tool, I have to say that its Help file is probably the worst I've seen
in a complex program.
It's probably good for the soul to find kindly support here, and even
better if you're actually able to provide it, but I'm sure the traffic
on this list could be drastically reduced if The Bat! had even a
half-decent Help file.
I wonder if there's any hope of an improvement in the forthcoming
version?

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Re[2]: Can you Park a thread?

[Dennis W. Greer]

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Hello Joseph,

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:38:00 -0500 GMT (8/22/2003, 9:38 PM +0700 GMT),
Joseph N. wrote:

JN> Yes.  Right-click/Thread/Park.  If there's a keyboard shortcut, I'm
JN> not aware of it.  You can probably set up a hotkey, though.

This works. Thanks!


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Re: Filtering problem

[Allie Martin]

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Karen Kay, [KK] wrote:

KK> Right. My problem was that I redid the filters twice, and didn't
KK> know what file to delete. Deleting the account.srx file seems to
KK> have done the trick so far.

Did you manually recreate the filters from scratch.

For the future, you could look at copying the filters to text file by
just selecting each filter, hitting CTRL-C and pasting them in your
favourite editor. When finished, delete the srx file, restart TB!, open
the sorting offices and then paste the text files contents into the
inbox filter set.

That may end up saving you the tedium of having to recreate all those
filters. It had better work since if I were in your situation, I'd have
64 inbox filters to recreate. :/

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Re: sticky splash screen

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

Regarding The Bat's splash screen, at 1:49 PM on 8/23/2003, Ochrid
typed ...

O> Is there anyway to cut it short?

Click it and it flies away. (I didn't know that until now, but I
thought I'd give it a try. This is a scary thought, but I'm beginning
to think like a TB programmer: If you think the program should do
something, it probably does; you just have to find it.) I usually just
press Alt-F2 and TB starts checking for mail while the splash screen
is still there.

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Re: strange return - blaster worm

[Jane Ellen]

>Received a strange 'return' just now and would
>appreciate your collective experience in understanding
>it.

Hi, I believe you're simply experiencing the
ongoing battle with Sobig.f. Somewhere along the
way your email address has been harvested (along
with many of us) and is being 'spoofed' by the
offending emails.

details.pif is just one of many variants of the
virus payload being sent around by these emails.

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Re: [spam] strange return - blaster worm

[Karen Kay]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, dajabo wrote:
> Could it be this email was sent from another machine with my address
> inserted in the return path?

That's how the worm works.

Karen




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strange return - blaster worm

[dajabo]

Received a strange 'return' just now and would appreciate your
collective experience in understanding it.

mail delivery software Exim has intercepted a message with my email
address in the return path. The message (it says) had a 'details.pif'
attachment - which I believe is the blaster worm's

The trouble is the address the malicious mail was addressed to, also
that my computer is clean. I haven't had any blaster symptoms, or
anything out of the ordinary to indicate an infestation, my AV is up
to date and the MS patches.

On top of that the email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which
resembles nothing I have ever used or keep in my address book.

The xmailer is Outlook Express, in which I have deleted all account
information, seeing as I'm now happy with the bat. I've even
uninstalled it.

Could it be this email was sent from another machine with my address
inserted in the return path?

Here are the headers that were returned to me:



*

Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from [165.165.16.246] (helo=PC4)
by nosgp1.openet.gov.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)
id 19qcc4-000LUV-00
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:55:44 +0200
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Details
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:56:08 +0200
X-MailScanner: Found to be clean
Importance: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="_NextPart_000_027539F8"
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is a multipart message in MIME format

--_NextPart_000_027539F8
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Please see the attached file for details.
--_NextPart_000_027539F8
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
name="details.pif"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="details.pif"


***

David Boggon


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Re[2]: Filtering problem

[Karen Kay]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Allie Martin wrote:
> In that case I'd have to agree with Roelof's impression that something
> has been corrupted and you may have to start fresh with your filters,
> i.e., actually deleting the accounts .srx file and recreating the
> filters.

Right. My problem was that I redid the filters twice, and didn't know
what file to delete. Deleting the account.srx file seems to have done
the trick so far.

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Re: Filtering problem

[Allie Martin]

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Karen Kay, [KK] wrote:

>> Before this started, did you make any changes to your filtering?

KK> Nope.

In that case I'd have to agree with Roelof's impression that something
has been corrupted and you may have to start fresh with your filters,
i.e., actually deleting the accounts .srx file and recreating the
filters.

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Re: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!

[Allie Martin]

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Danger H, [DH] wrote:

DH> Excuse me but what problems does ZA have with The Bat? I am using ZA
DH> here.

ZA is particularly notorious for cause connectivity problems with TB!.
The reports are many and I had my own personal experience with it and
ended up uninstalling it. The thing is that not everyone experiences
these problems. Additionally, the problems don't always start
immediately after installing ZA or TB! and it's this particular point
that made my experience so miserable. They were working fine together
and then the problems started. It therefore took me a long time to pin
down the cause. I just never suspected ZA.

Be that as it may, like myself, those who reported these problems also
cured their problems by switching to another firewall.

You may just be one of the fortunates who has been doing ok with it.
The problems seem to be more common with NT based systems and for those
who keep their machines running for extended periods between reboots. I
think I'd still be using ZA if I rebooted my machine daily since my
problems with it were always cured with a reboot and the problems would
restart after a few days without rebooting.

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Re[2]: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)

[dajabo]

TF> Where/when does it hang? "Connecting to server"?

well yes, connecting to host


DR> Do you happen to have a firewall installed? or an antivirus with mail
DR> checking installed? or a spam checker installed?  Is it possible that
DR> the POP server verifies the e-mail while you download the messages?

yes I have Zone Alarm and a hardware wall (I keep ZA to monitor
outgoing traffic). My McAffee AV has Outlook email scanning enabled,
and its 'download and email scanning' enabled. I have no spam checker,
and I don't know about the POP server verifying the email while I
download the messages. Should I?

As I said, I haven't made any configuration changes, that I am aware
of, to the bat or to ZA or my anti-virus. As I'm writing this the
connection center has been connecting to host for over 10 minutes to
the pop server at postmark.net (I have 4 accounts here). I have one
other account through my university that never seems to hang.

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Re: sticky splash screen

[Hugh T. Hodges]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 19:49:55 GMT +0200 (which was 10:49 AM where I live)
Ochrid wrote:

Ochrid> The splash screen that show up at the start of TB
Ochrid> is quite nice, but not quite nice enough to stay
Ochrid> there for as long as it does ;-)

Ochrid> Is there anyway to cut it short?

Add "/NOLOGO" to the command line that loads The Bat!  For example:
"C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe" /NOLOGO

This works for v1 and, I assume, for v2.

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Re: Mod: IO219

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night]  Marck, 

MDP> We should try to understand that he has come here angry and confused
MDP> about the way TB has been behaving for him and the lack of support
MDP> he feels he has experienced to date from RITlabs.

There is one problem which is not cleared out yet - I could not find
any message from him addressed to our support. Nor his address/first
name is found in our registration database. So, some investigation is
needed here :-)

I understand that people on our support may fail sometimes before they
become more experienced, but my impression about them in general is
good. So, the general idea about our support is: if you don't like
anything about it, please feel free to help them to become better   :-)


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Re[2]: iPac Sync

[Ricardo van Eck]

Hi Ricardo,

Saturday, August 23, 2003, 19:34:19, you wrote:


RM> If and when I come across any info, I will post it.
RM>  Let us know if you come across any solutions.

Thank you for your reply.

I also did a search on google. When I find something, I will post it
for sure ;)

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sticky splash screen

[Ochrid]

Hello all,

The splash screen that show up at the start of TB
is quite nice, but not quite nice enough to stay
there for as long as it does ;-)

Is there anyway to cut it short?

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Re[2]: Filtering problem

[Karen Kay]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> What do you mean by "they will need something else to do." No! They
> need to listen to me!  (LOL) But you seem
> to have experience with presentations...

> But 111 slides is 19 pages. IMNSHO it *is* too much, even as a
> handout.

Probably. I think cutting out slides is almost never a mistake.

>>> Back to your problem, would you mind posting the one filter that still
>>> caused TB to send your message to trash?

>> Too late; I deleted the account.srx file, which seems to have solved
>> the problem.

> Keep fingers crossed.

I am. I thought I ran into a glitch, but it was a false alarm.

Karen




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Re: iPac Sync

[Ricardo Marte]

Hi Ricardo:

RvE>   I just heard that everyone at our company is getting an Compaq iPaq
RvE>   1915. Main reason of course, so we all can sync our e-mail and
RvE>   agenda/appointments with our laptops and so on. But I'm one of few
RvE>   who's not using LookOut. Does anyone know if its possible to sync
RvE>   with The Bat!? Plugings, third party software, what ever... The
RvE>   iPaq runs Windows CE.

I have not heard/confirmed the possibility to sync theBat! with
PocketPC's.


I have heard of the ability to sync theBat! with Palm Software (see
threads on 8/11 and 8/13). However, one concern for Palm Users was the
inability to sync to folders other than the Inbox. Given that one of
theBat!'s main features is filtering e-mails to folders, the inability
sync particular folders was a great disappointment.

There are several other Bat! users who want/need this functionality to
sync theBat! mails with PocketPc's. Every so often I do a Google
search to see if someone has worked on this a project that would sync
theBat! with PocketPCs. So far, no luck. If and when I come across any
info, I will post it. Let us know if you come across any solutions.

- Ricardo


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Re: Filtering problem

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Karen,

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:12:47 -0500 GMT (24/08/2003, 00:12 +0700 GMT),
Karen Kay wrote:

>> Actually it is a 3-hour tutoring session. Somehow I have the
>> feeling I need to cut down the number of slides to 25%, but
>> concentration is waning.

> Whatever number of slides you have, make sure you print them in a
> handout so people can write on them. Especially for 3 hours, they will
> need something else to do.

What do you mean by "they will need something else to do." No! They
need to listen to me!  (LOL) But you seem
to have experience with presentations...

But 111 slides is 19 pages. IMNSHO it *is* too much, even as a
handout.

>> Back to your problem, would you mind posting the one filter that still
>> caused TB to send your message to trash?

> Too late; I deleted the account.srx file, which seems to have solved
> the problem.

Keep fingers crossed.

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Re: Multiple Addresbook entries when added automatically

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Dan,

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 you wrote in 

> You can enter all addressees of your outgoing mail into your address
> book by creating an Outgoing Mail filter.

>  Rule:Name: Add recipients to AB
> String: @ | Location: Recipient | Presence: Yes

>   Actions:  [x] Add Addresses to Address Book | Recipients

PMFJI but this looks very useful. What do you enter into the "move
messages to folder" box?

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Re[2]: Filtering problem

[Karen Kay]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Hm. You seem to be sure that there is no filter that catches other
> parts of the message and therefore moves it to trash.

My filtering is all on sender, recipient, and subject. I went through and
checked that.

> I finished a paper on Wireless Networking last night at 1am,
> presented it today, and just prepared a 111-slide PowerPoint
> presentation on MIS for tomorrow afternoon. Actually it is a 3-hour
> tutoring session. Somehow I have the feeling I need to cut down the
> number of slides to 25%, but concentration is waning.

Whatever number of slides you have, make sure you print them in a
handout so people can write on them. Especially for 3 hours, they will
need something else to do.

> Back to your problem, would you mind posting the one filter that still
> caused TB to send your message to trash?

Too late; I deleted the account.srx file, which seems to have solved
the problem.

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Re[2]: Filtering problem

[Karen Kay]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Roelof Otten wrote:
> Does this happen on receiving them or on closing TB. If it's the
> latter than maybe you've changed the properties of the inbox to remove
> messages older than zero days.
> You can check these properties by selecting the inbox in the account
> tree pane and click  the right mouse button.

No, I never touched this.

> If it's on receipt of the messages, your sorting office could be
> corrupted in some peculiar way. So you could delete the file including
> your filters and start afresh. This can be done as follows:
> Close TB
> Delete the file account.srx in your account directory (Unless you've
> changed that yourself, the account directories can be found with the
> explorer in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\ )
> Start TB and add new filters.

> If this doesn't help, your TB setup could be corrupted and you might
> consider uninstalling TB (without removing the accounts and message
> bases). Afterwards install TB again, pointing it to your existing
> accounts

Okay.

Deleting the account.srx file seems to have done the trick. My fingers
are crossed!

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Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:55:53 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 18:55 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

A>> [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a
A>> fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming.
A>> I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail
A>> adresses, or something]

> One of my least affected addresses where spamming is concerned is the
> address I use for all my yahoo subscriptions. 

Same here. OTOH, I created a hotmail account, and before I even told
anybody about it, I received spam on a daily basis. And it was not an
easy-to-guess only-first-name-based account.

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Re: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello dajabo,

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 07:58:02 +0100 GMT (23/08/2003, 13:58 +0700 GMT),
dajabo wrote:

> This little problem (the connection centre hanging) has only
> begun affecting me for the last few
> weeks. Until then the CC was working like a dream...

Where/when does it hang? "Connecting to server"?

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Re: Filtering problem

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Karen,

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:02:54 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 11:02 +0700 GMT),
Karen Kay wrote:

>> 1.) You have a folder that moves messages From [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
>> trash.

> No, I have a filter that moves messages addressed to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Trash. This is what I want to happen.

OK.

> Messages addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] are also being moved to
> Trash, but I want messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], including TBUDL
> messages, to stay in the Inbox.

Hm. You seem to be sure that there is no filter that catches other
parts of the message and therefore moves it to trash.

>> 2.) TBUDL messages are being moved to trash.

>> If all are moved, then de-activate the filters one by one and see when
>> the unwanted behaviour stops. That's be the culprit.

> Er, thanks. I have about 50 filters, and I did get rid of them all,
> but it seemed that the moment I put the first filter, this behavior
> started again.

You deleted all filters? Brave. I but then, you might have just
renamed the appropriate file and restarted TB. And then you created
only one filter (which says what?) and TB decided: "That's enough.
Anything addressed to this lady will be trashed." And you don't know
why.

Bats have feelings too, you know. I recently took care of three
turtles for a few weeks for a friend, and he is now back. I treated
them well and they made no serious problems, except for a spout of
diarrhea for a few days. Are you sure you talk to your bat daily, feed
it the appropriate insects, and treat it with respect?

Scratch that. Or comment on TBOT, if you will. I finished a paper on
Wireless Networking last night at 1am, presented it today, and just
prepared a 111-slide PowerPoint presentation on MIS for tomorrow
afternoon. Actually it is a 3-hour tutoring session. Somehow I have
the feeling I need to cut down the number of slides to 25%, but
concentration is waning.

Back to your problem, would you mind posting the one filter that still
caused TB to send your message to trash?

-- 

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Thomas.

Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

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dem Park war ein Haus, wo die Muetter ihre Kinder gebaeren. Eine
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Re[2]: reading confirmation

[John Bartlett]

Hello Mark,

In answer to yours of Saturday, August 23, 2003, 8:03 AM:

MW> ...and it takes a whole paragraph to explain, which sort of defeats
MW> the purpose...



Good one Mark - but now I don't have to do it again!

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Re[2]: Filtering problem

[Karen Kay]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Allie Martin wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> Karen Kay, [KK] wrote:

KK>> It used to be that my filtering filtered mail into folders, and
KK>> anything not already filtered would go to the Inbox.

KK>> Now, for some reason, mail not affected by the filters (like this
KK>> mailing list e-mail) ends up in Trash!

KK>> I've removed all the filters and started over twice, with the same
KK>> result. What's up with this?

> Before this started, did you make any changes to your filtering?

Nope.

Karen




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Re: reading confirmation

[Mark Wieder]

John-

Friday, August 22, 2003, 7:29:08 PM, you wrote:

JB> P.S. The use of 'e' for email is my way of reducing abbreviations to a
JB> minimum. It is a noun, singular and plural, a verb and just about
JB> anything you want!

...and it takes a whole paragraph to explain, which sort of defeats
the purpose...

PMFJIB FWIW YMMV - IANAL (ROTFLMAOASTC)

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Re: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Krister,

@23-Aug-2003, 14:00 +0200 (13:00 UK time) Krister Ekstrom [KE] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP>> Any AV software or firewall software in use locally?

KE> Please reply off-list if you feel this begins to drift off into
KE> the OT-zone, but are there other firewall software besides ZA
KE> that is known to cause problems with TB?

Only ZA has been reported as giving problems to TB (and other
software). I use Kerio myself.

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Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo

[Greg Strong]

Hello Alexander,

> I'm sorry I can't be of any further help. I avoid Yahoo, its groups
> and everything like the plague.

> [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a
> fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming.
> I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail
> adresses, or something]

I've used Yahoo groups for about 3 years. No spam or very little to even
speak of it! You must be doing something different.

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Re: Can you Park a thread?

[MAU]

Hello Roelof,

> Have you got a shortcut.cfg file in TB's mail directory?

Yes.

> Close TB and rename that file to shortcut.old
> Open TB and see whether the shortcuts to (un)park full threads are
> still present.

Actions are there but no shortcut.

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Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo

[Alexander]

23-Aug-2003 15:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> since it was egroups & onelist

Ah, the good old days. 'nuff said. ;-)

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Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo

[Deborah W]

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, 4:04:10 AM, Alexander wrote:

A> [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a
A> fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming.
A> I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail
A> adresses, or something]

I think you must have been unlucky, or failed to uncheck a box somewhere
on your yahoo account, or something. I'm subscribed to more yahoo groups
than I care to admit, & I have about seven different addresses that I
use for them, & have not been spammed on any of them. I've been using
Yahoo Groups for about four years now (since before it was Yahoo Groups,
in fact, since it was egroups & onelist).

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Re[2]: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

At 8:10 AM on 8/23/2003, danger h typed ...

d> Excuse me but what problems does ZA have with The Bat? I am using ZA
d> here.

So am I, but I've occasionally seen a problem. TB will try to check
mail and ZA will begin using 99.9% of system resources. Occasionally
the ZA process can be killed, but often the computer must be powered
off.

The current version of ZA seems to have resolved the problem and
support at Zone Labs is generally willing to work with users to track
down the problem.

-- 
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Re: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!

[danger h]

Hello Krister,

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KE> Please reply off-list if you feel this begins to drift off into the
KE> OT-zone, but are there other firewall software besides ZA that is known
KE> to cause problems with TB?

KE> - --

Excuse me but what problems does ZA have with The Bat? I am using ZA
here.


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In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 22 Aug 2003 23:52:21  (my local time 23 aug 2003 00:52:21), you
typed:
MDP> Any AV software or firewall software in use
MDP> locally?

Please reply off-list if you feel this begins to drift off into the
OT-zone, but are there other firewall software besides ZA that is known
to cause problems with TB?

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Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo

[Allie Martin]

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Alexander, [A] wrote:

A> I'm sorry I can't be of any further help. I avoid Yahoo, its groups and
A> everything like the plague.

A> [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a
A> fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming.
A> I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail
A> adresses, or something]

One of my least affected addresses where spamming is concerned is the
address I use for all my yahoo subscriptions. 

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Re: Filtering problem

[Allie Martin]

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Karen Kay, [KK] wrote:

KK> It used to be that my filtering filtered mail into folders, and
KK> anything not already filtered would go to the Inbox.

KK> Now, for some reason, mail not affected by the filters (like this
KK> mailing list e-mail) ends up in Trash!

KK> I've removed all the filters and started over twice, with the same
KK> result. What's up with this?

Before this started, did you make any changes to your filtering?

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Re: Can you Park a thread?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo MAU,

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:47:52 +0200GMT (23-8-03, 11:47 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

>> Probably they're shortcuts Miguel entered himself.
M> No, not at all. I'm a mouse oriented user.

That may be, but on my system there isn't any shortcut for those
actions and though I'm more keyboard oriented I don't alter/delete
shortcuts. (Those that are here already suffice for my purpose.)

Have you got a shortcut.cfg file in TB's mail directory?
Close TB and rename that file to shortcut.old
Open TB and see whether the shortcuts to (un)park full threads are
still present.

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Re: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)

[Daniel Rail]

Hello dajabo,

Saturday, August 23, 2003, 3:58:02 AM, you wrote:


> This little problem (the connection centre hanging) has only
> begun affecting me for the last few
> weeks. Until then the CC was working like a dream...

> I can't think of any config changes I made to encourage it.

> And it seems to occur at random on different accounts, ie different
> accounts hang at different times, though they are always accounts with
> the same POP server.

Do you happen to have a firewall installed? or an antivirus with mail
checking installed? or a spam checker installed?  Is it possible that
the POP server verifies the e-mail while you download the messages?

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 Daniel Rail
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Re: blah!

[Carsten Thönges]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> --> Friday, August 22, 2003, 5:27:42 PM, you wrote:
>> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> You are absolutely right, this should be fixed. But how? IIRC Rit
>> had problems reproducing this bug.

> You know of this problem?

Yes.

> You were somehow involved in attempting to fix it?

No.

> Yes, bugs can sometimes be difficult to reproduce, especially when
> networking is involved. I don't know how they fix it, I don't have
> the code.

Me neither. But if you leave your mails on the server for some days
you should try to change that setting to »Delete received messages
from server«. I'm not saying that there will be no more problems,
but don't be surprised if things get better. One (or two?) users
reported this as a working workaround... just try it.
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Re: Smartbat

[Carsten Thönges]

* Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[SmartBat]

>> What's it for?
>> It appears to be a text editor, but what is its purpose?

> You  -can-  put text/notes in there . . . [...]

You can link a pad with some text file (F6, right click, New Pad,
select a text file).

If you receive newsletters you could extract relevant or important
parts from those mails using TB! filters and append them to that
file linked to SmartBat.

There was¹ a German website where you could input your favorite
actors, directors, movies genres etc and they sent you a newsletter
telling you when there was something on TV that fitted your
preferences. Needless to say that these newsletter came with a whole
lot of advertising. So I created a filter to extract the one line
with the important information and appended it to a text file.

Later I just had to press F6 to take a look at the list of good
movies on TV the next days.

Just a thought about using SmartBat.

Carsten

¹  I received their last mail in April. Hm, there are still some
   movies from time to time on TV. So I guess they quit their
   business.
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Re: Can you Park a thread?

[MAU]

Hello Tim,

> There's nothing on the context menu in v1.62q (and those keystrokes
> don't seem to do anything for me).

What's your setting for "View/View threads by"?

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Re: Can you Park a thread?

[MAU]

Hello Roelof,

> Probably they're shortcuts Miguel entered himself.

No, not at all. I'm a mouse oriented user.

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Re: Rogue emails on this TBUDL

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Hi Mark,

@23-Aug-2003, 07:57 Mark said to Jonathan:

> ... What happened was that the download just stopped on previous
> Angliss emails, and required killing the Bat from the task list. I
> guess it might be an AV problem rather than a BAT problem.

It is. When the AV spots a suspected virus, it's locking the file
which leaves TB high and dry - it was in the middle of using that
file and didn't expect to have the rug pulled quite so firmly from
under its feet.

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Re: Can you Park a thread?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Tim,

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:41:50 +1000GMT (23-8-03, 10:41 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

M>> Ctrl+Alt+0 to Park
M>> Ctrl+Alt+9 to Unpark

M>> At least that is what the context menu shows on v1.62i.

T> There's nothing on the context menu in v1.62q (and those keystrokes
T> don't seem to do anything for me).

Probably they're shortcuts Miguel entered himself. Though you ought to see
the actions. In the message list right click a message, go to thread
and the thread actions pop up.

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Re: blah!

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo io219,

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:53:42 -0500GMT (22-8-03, 21:53 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

icn> 2) keyboard shortcuts are not being saved, wah!

Did you per chance restore your TB-accounts from a CD-ROM archive
after some when installing TB again?
When the file shortcut.cfg has the read-only flag set, you can't edit
it. The default location for that file is:
C:\Program File\The Bat!\Mail\Shortcut.CFG

If that isn't the case. What OS are you using? Do you have access
rights to that folder and not only it's subfolders? Is there any
reason you OS would limit your access to that file/folder?

-- 
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Re: Copying all filters from one account to another?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Jim,

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:26:27 -0700GMT (22-8-03, 22:26 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

JD>   Is there a faster/easier way to copy filters from one account in my
JD>   Bat to another other than copy/paste each individual filter at a
JD>   time?

As long as you haven't entered any filters in the second account, you
might consider copying the account.srx file from the first to the second
account. As that file contains your complete sorting office, you'd
copy all of your filters.

When you only want to copy some selection of filters to an existing
account, you can use use the copy/paste method, but in stead of
copying each filter immediately to the target account, you could use a
text editor (eg SmartBat) as a go between. The advantage is that that
both your text editor and the sorting office can be opened at the
same, so you won't be opening and close the sorting offices from both
accounts continuously. And besides even though you can copy only one
filter at a time from the sorting office, you can paste multiple
filters into it. (As long as they're all incoming or all outgoing or
whatever).

-- 
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Re: [real] Re: lost password

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo io219,

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:57:11 -0500GMT (23-8-03, 1:57 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

QS. . . he's discovered he's lost his password. He
QS   has (I hope) the other numbers. What can he do?

>>> Pay the $3.00 for the key regeneration service on the registration

icn> Wow, that's a pretty good idea, I might have to do that...

As long as you didn't format your harddisk, you could save the
registry entries for TB. This can be done from the dos prompt with:
C:\windows\regedit.exe /e C:\TheBat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT
Among others it saves the key 'SoftwareRegistrationId' that takes care
of this.

-- 
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Re: Can you Park a thread?

[Tim]

On Saturday, 23 August 2003, MAU wrote:

M> Ctrl+Alt+0 to Park
M> Ctrl+Alt+9 to Unpark

M> At least that is what the context menu shows on v1.62i.

There's nothing on the context menu in v1.62q (and those keystrokes
don't seem to do anything for me).

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Filtering problem

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Karen,

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:43:56 -0500GMT (23-8-03, 1:43 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

KK> Now, for some reason, mail not affected by the filters (like this
KK> mailing list e-mail) ends up in Trash!

Does this happen on receiving them or on closing TB. If it's the
latter than maybe you've changed the properties of the inbox to remove
messages older than zero days.
You can check these properties by selecting the inbox in the account
tree pane and click  the right mouse button.

KK> I've removed all the filters and started over twice, with the same
KK> result. What's up with this?

If it's on receipt of the messages, your sorting office could be
corrupted in some peculiar way. So you could delete the file including
your filters and start afresh. This can be done as follows:
Close TB
Delete the file account.srx in your account directory (Unless you've
changed that yourself, the account directories can be found with the
explorer in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\ )
Start TB and add new filters.

If this doesn't help, your TB setup could be corrupted and you might
consider uninstalling TB (without removing the accounts and message
bases). Afterwards install TB again, pointing it to your existing
accounts

-- 
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Re: Can you Park a thread?

[MAU]

Hello Joseph,

> Yes.  Right-click/Thread/Park.  If there's a keyboard shortcut, I'm
> not aware of it.  You can probably set up a hotkey, though.

Ctrl+Alt+0 to Park
Ctrl+Alt+9 to Unpark

At least that is what the context menu shows on v1.62i.

-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
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Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo

[Alexander]

23-Aug-2003 01:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Now, the only problem that remains is that Günter is using 1.62r... ;-)

> Exactly, that's the problem :-) Some kind of virus transmitted from
> the Beta list?

I'm sorry I can't be of any further help. I avoid Yahoo, its groups and
everything like the plague.

[every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a fresh
email account, it took only days until the spam started coming. I have no
proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail adresses, or
something]

-- 
Best regards,
 Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de)



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Re:Rogue emails on this TBUDL

[Mark]

>> This was mentioned earlier. His mails carry the 'SOBIG' marker of
>> "X-MailScanner: Found to be clean". If you are filtering on that,
>> add a "Sender: Angliss ... No" filter.
JA> It shouldn't be any more... I changed mail server and the new mail
JA> scanner uses a different header. If it's still picking up that one,
JA> then I've probably messed up a setting somewhere. However, if a filter
JA> on "X-Mailscanner" can kill TB dead, might that be considered a big
JA> bug?

This one managed to download without any complaint. I use Sophos
AV for NT. What happened was that the download just stopped on
previous Angliss emails, and required killing the Bat from the
task list. I guess it might be an AV problem rather than a BAT
problem.

Mark



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Connection Center Hanging (cont.)

[dajabo]

This little problem (the connection centre hanging) has only begun affecting me for 
the last few
weeks. Until then the CC was working like a dream...

I can't think of any config changes I made to encourage it.

And it seems to occur at random on different accounts, ie different
accounts hang at different times, though they are always accounts with
the same POP server.

David Boggon

_

using 1.62r
Windows 2000
5 0 Service Pack 4 



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