Re: Blocking Bat mail

[Chris]

On Friday, September 19, 2003 at 6:15:49 AM, John Phillips wrote in
the message "Blocking Bat mail"
:

> Initially there was a virus (or virii - such a word?) called Bat

> http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/db/w/wolfdem_s_bat_virus_creator.asp

Technically, since we use English and not Latin, the plural of virus
is viruses. In Latin, the plural of virus is NOT viri or virii. It is vira.
(It's irregular in that regard.)

Viri means "of the virus", "of the man", "the men", "Men!", "for
strength", or "by strength."

Virii does not exist in Latin (or English).

NB: There are many different translations of virus, vir, and vis, so
the above list is not comprehensive.

-- 
Chris
Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma.

I just found the last bug.



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Re: bug: in-reply-to not recognized

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo daniel,

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:43:37 +0200GMT (19-9-03, 14:43 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

dh> now that I have made the post to php-general I must recognize, that
dh> thebat does not thread my message correctly. It was a reply to the
dh> reply of my original mail, but is shown as reply to my original one:

That's clearly a bug.

dh> http://thequod.de/tb_inreplyto.png
dh> After I changed the threading display with Alt-2, Alt-3 and back to
dh> Alt-1 it is threaded now correctly,

Especially when it's threaded correctly when you've played with it.


dh> but besides that the message ID in In-Reply-To:
dh> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is not highlighted (because
dh> of the top level domain).

That's no bug. TB doesn't highlight msg-id's, but it highlights things
that could be valid URLs. Something with bagend.shire as domain can't
be correct, since there are no tld's containing more than four
letters.
It is possible that the confusion about the 'shire'-tld confuses TB's
threading, but that shouldn't be so. After all there's nothing in
RFC2822 that says that a msg-id should contain a valid domain.

-- 
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iso-2022-jp

[runtime]

Hello,

messages from my Japanese correspondents are usually in iso-2022-jp.
Could I read messages in this encoding? Do I need XLAT table?
Is there a common source for XLAT tables I could download for TB!?

-- 
Best regards,
 runtime



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Re[2]: Blocking Bat mail

[Dave Kennedy]

Friday, September 19, 2003, 8:43:54 AM, Martin WEBSTER wrote:
JP>> Initially there was a virus (or virii - such a word?)

M> Oh no, not again... believe me it's virus (singular) and
M> viruses (plural).

M> - -- Best regards, Martin Webster

Anyone with that last name, I'll have to believe about words! :)

-- 
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Re: TB got bloated

[Jernej Simončič]

On Friday, September 19, 2003, 3:35:08, Mark Wieder wrote:

> When things get slow I try to archive some of my older messages and
> just get them out of TB to speed things up.

What's slow for you? TB takes about 10 seconds to startup & display the
message count in all folders here (quite a task, I've got around 120 folders
in 7 accounts+common folders), with a total of ~150.000 messages (the
largest folder has 42.000 messages currently, and takes 6 seconds to display
when I first open it; later it takes around 2 seconds)...

-- 
Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/
http://deepthought.ena.si/

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Re: Signing outgoing mail

[Deborah W]

On Thursday, September 18, 2003, 10:51:34 PM, Melissa Reese wrote:

MR> AVG has been doing this for a long time, and I see it as just a way
MR> to get a bit of free advertising (a link to the Grisoft web page is
MR> always included).

At least the advertising is optional with AVG :-)

-- 
Deborah



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Re: Blocking Bat mail

[Martin Webster]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello John,

On 19 September 2003, 20:15 +1000 (11:15 local time) John Phillips [JP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JP> Initially there was a virus (or virii - such a word?)

Oh no, not again... believe me it's virus (singular) and viruses
(plural).

- --
Best regards,
Martin Webster

The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1)

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Nu2H3OycANcwT6iPBqnvnTui
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bug: in-reply-to not recognized

[daniel hahler]

Hallo all,

now that I have made the post to php-general I must recognize, that
thebat does not thread my message correctly. It was a reply to the
reply of my original mail, but is shown as reply to my original one:

http://thequod.de/tb_inreplyto.png

After I changed the threading display with Alt-2, Alt-3 and back to
Alt-1 it is threaded now correctly, but besides that the message ID
in
  In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
is not highlighted (because of the top level domain).


-- 
shinE!
Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 1
http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665



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Re: MyGate & Bat! Content Type Header

[Martin Webster]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello John,

On 19 September 2003, 21:27 +1000 (12:27 local time) John Phillips [JP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JP> Incidentally, the screenshot on MyGate web site is for V.2.5, but only
JP> 2.4 seems to be available for download at this time?

Expect version 2.5 sometime this weekend.

- --
Best regards,
Martin Webster

The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1)

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note: bug: message in php-general mailinglist not displayed - plus: finder

[daniel hahler]

on Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:38:53 +0200 I already wrote to you:

dh> I posted to php-general mailing list, got a reply and replied again.
dh> But my own reply gets not displayed in the mailing lists folder.

That was my mistake - I just replied to the author himself.. %-/

dh> And when I do search the whole account for these mails, the Finder
dh> results in "4 messages in 2 folders found", but only displays 2: my
dh> original post in the mailing lists folder and in the Sent folder.

this can be seen at http://thequod.de/tb_msglost.png (23kb)

I don't bother now anymore, but the Find function seems to be buggy.


-- 
shinE!
Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 1
http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665



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MyGate & Bat! Content Type Header

[John Phillips]

Hi Bat! Fans,

What exactly is a "content type header"?

All the MyGate help file says is:-

"Default content-type for gated messages
If kludges of gated message do not contain header

Content-type: ...

it will be added with value that you specify. If you leave this box
empty, content-type header will not be added. "

Can someone explain this to me?

Incidentally, the screenshot on MyGate web site is for V.2.5, but only
2.4 seems to be available for download at this time?

-- 
John Phillips, Sydney, Australia

Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 1 

Just as easy as 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169



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Re: template to put copies to all recipients?

[MAU]

Hello Jurgen,

> is there a way to have a mail that goes to many recipients be copied into the
> respective folders of each recipient?

I do it with filters.

Consider three 3 addresses: A, B and C. And three folder FolderA,
FolderB and FolderC where you what to sort messages respectively.
Obviously, if a message has been sent to A and B you want to sort a copy
to FolderA and FoldrB. This is my set up:

Filter A: IF A is in Recipient
 Move from Inbox to Inbox
 Copy to Folder A (Set in Actions tab)
  Continue processing with other filters (Set in Options)
Filter B: IF B is in Recipient
 Move from Inbox to Inbox
 Copy to Folder B
  Continue processing with other filters
Filter C: IF C is in Recipient
 Move from Inbox to Inbox
 Copy to Folder C
  Continue processing with other filters
Filter Delete ABC: If A or B or C in Recipient (use Alternatives tab)
 Delete the message (set in Actions tab).

Hope that is what you were asking for.


-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v2.00.6



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template to put copies to all recipients?

[Jurgen Haug]

Hallo Fledermäuse,

is there a way to have a mail that goes to many recipients be copied into the 
respective folders of each recipient?

-- 
regards,
 Jurgen

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bug: message in php-general mailinglist not displayed - plus: finder

[daniel hahler]

Hallo all,

I posted to php-general mailing list, got a reply and replied again.
But my own reply gets not displayed in the mailing lists folder.

And when I do search the whole account for these mails, the Finder
results in "4 messages in 2 folders found", but only displays 2: my
original post in the mailing lists folder and in the Sent folder.

Although there should be at least 5 messages:
- original post (and Sent copy)
- Reply
- my own reply again (and copy in "Sent")

When I search explicitly in "Sent Items" both Sent items get found.
But when I include the php-general folder, only the first post (in 2
copies is displayed), but thebat says "4 messages found".

When I only search php-general it says "2 messages found", but
displays only one, which is my original post. There should be 3
messages, _if_ my second post (reply to reply) came through - because
it is not displayed in the php-general folder.
This is why I discovered this bug, as I thought the mail was lost -
and somehow it _is_.

anyone on php-general list? it's the topic "[PHP] multilanguage site:
performance question: included file with cases?".

I have searched for "performance question" in subject.


-- 
shinE!
Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 1
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Re: Blocking Bat mail

[John Phillips]

Hi Melissa,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, at 17:32:25 [GMT-0700] (which was Fri, 10:32:25
where I live) you wrote:



> I don't know how that got started,


Initially there was a virus (or virii - such a word?) called Bat

http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/db/w/wolfdem_s_bat_virus_creator.asp



-- 
John Phillips, Sydney, Australia

Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 1 

Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant.



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Re[2]: Signing outgoing mail

[Gordon Woolf]

Hello Granville,

On Friday, September 19, 2003, 10:45:11 AM, you wrote:
> how do I set my AVG AntiVirus plug-in to sign my outgoing emails as
> Virus Free. I notice that some of the emails that I receive are
> signed in this way. Is it something that I enable from somewhere in
> The BAT!?

Not to be recommended. One of the major, and most reliable, ways to
identify the recent Klez virus was to look for the "Found to be clean"
header (in conjunction with words from the many possible subject
lines).

--
Gordon Woolf
The Worsley Press
Hastings, Victoria, Australia
www.worsleypress.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Book: Success in Store - How to Start or Buy a Retail Business,
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Re: filter syntax query

[zParticle]

I wrote:

>>I need the proper syntax for filtering messages containing the
>>following string ANYWHERE (the text between brackets): [ .exe" ]

Roelof Otten replied:

>It has no use. TB doesn't filter on attachments or their names. It's
>an often expressed wish, but not yet possible. TB's filtering engine
>is supposed to be overhauled somewhere in the future and maybe it'll
>be possible then.

Thanks.  Good info.

And I just have to say it: Sheesh!  How silly to be able to display
a raw email message but not filter on it.
-- 
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Re: filter syntax query

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo zParticle,

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:29:15 -0500GMT (19-9-03, 6:29 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

z> I need the proper syntax for filtering messages containing the
z> following string ANYWHERE (the text between brackets): [ .exe" ]

z> I realize there are other ways to deal with rogue attachments; but
z> this one's to follow up on a specific query from a user.

It has no use. TB doesn't filter on attachments or their names. It's
an often expressed wish, but not yet possible. TB's filtering engine
is supposed to be overhauled somewhere in the future and maybe it'll
be possible then.
As of now it has no use to filter on .exe, it'll only be triggered by
messages talking about a program, not by messages carrying one.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof



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