Re: No message size in the Mail Dispatcher
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:40:58 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I use the mail dispatcher often and the size is shown correctly. Same happens to me, but only with Mailtraq I'm experiencing the same as Roelof - who was triggered by my posting in the Mailtraq support list, I assume ;) I just performed a quick telnet test against a public server runnig Cubic Circle (showing sizes in the dispatcher) and Mailtraq Professional 2.5.1.1580 (one of the latest builds, not showing sizes in the dispatcher). Both servers show the message size upon entering command TOP 1 0, but Mailtraq does not add the string octets as in +OK 6205 octets - could that be the problem? That's the only diff I can see... -- ©ory Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A proper way to upgrade v1.6x to latestr ver.
Hello tbudl, It may have been asked already, but still i want upgrade w/t re-creating manually 10+ accounts with their rules, filters and so on. Anyone done successfully so, and can describe step-by-step? I tried few times to do, but being half my account IMAP, it did not go well. restored back by copying folders and registry file. -- Best regards, VictorD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB
Hello Arjan, On Sun, 2 May 2004 21:34:43 +0200 GMT (03/05/2004, 02:34 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: AdG I can understand your, uhm.. reservations, but on the other hand: AdG blacklists are a _fact_. So why not use them for my own benefit? AdG It is my own free choice and it won't do any harm to others. Well, if your ISP decides to reject mails from domains that are in obscure blacklists for wrong reasons, I wouldn't call it your choice any more. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My husband and I divorced over religious differences. He thought he was God and I didn't. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No message size in the Mail Dispatcher
Hello Cory, On Mon, 03 May 2004 12:22:07 +0200 GMT (03/05/2004, 17:22 +0700 GMT), Cory wrote: C in the dispatcher). Both servers show the message size upon entering C command TOP 1 0, but Mailtraq does not add the string octets as in C +OK 6205 octets - could that be the problem? That's the only diff I C can see... I have no idea. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Woran erkennen Sie, das Sie als Bedienung nichts taugen? Sie halten Caipirinha fur einen fleischfressenden Fisch. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB
Monday, May 3, 2004, 6:37:38 AM, you wrote: TF Well, if your ISP decides to reject mails from domains that are in TF obscure blacklists for wrong reasons, I wouldn't call it your choice TF any more. This is a real irritant ... at least one isp blocks some comcast servers, and though I have other email options, that's not true of everyone .. though I suppose one could always resort to yahoo/hotmail .. I find it interesting that *their* servers don't seem to be blacklisted ... Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Search on imap account!?
Hi all, it's possible to search a message in a Imap account?? If I try to search something, on the search interface I press START but afer a second it say that nothing was found. Probably it don't search at all! Is there something I miss or it's a know bug Thx @D! Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB
Hello Lynn, On Mon, 3 May 2004 07:57:07 -0700 GMT (03/05/2004, 21:57 +0700 GMT), Lynn Turriff wrote: LT This is a real irritant ... at least one isp blocks some LT comcast servers, and though I have other email options, LT that's not true of everyone .. though I suppose one LT could always resort to yahoo/hotmail .. I find it LT interesting that *their* servers don't seem to be LT blacklisted ... Not so. I have to manually insert each emnail contact with a Yahoo address into my whitelist on GMX. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: Every time a person turns on the television to see the news, he instantly sees what he wants and what concerns him. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.10.01 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: avc broadband
sorry sending this again as mucked up and might have lost some emails so if did get an answer to the question below can you please send it thanks KW Hello TBUDL, KW How do I make `thebat` emailer pick up my email via a KW satellite broadband connection (avcbroadband) the proxy I have in KW I.E. to use the web is http://www/proxy.pac which works KW ok browsing -- Best regards, Kenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: avc broadband
Hello Ken, Monday, May 3, 2004, 5:36:22 PM, you wrote: KW sorry sending this again as mucked up and might have lost some emails KW so if did get an answer to the question below can you please send it thanks I haven't seen an answer Ken, and I'm afraid I can't help you either, since I don't have any experience with satellite connections. :-( -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB
Monday, May 3, 2004, 8:24:21 AM, you wrote: This is a real irritant ... at least one isp blocks some comcast servers, and though I have other email options, J It sounds like the same mentality of the X-Mailer blocking admins. J Comcast limits SMTP use for it's -customers- pretty severely. That's true .. no relaying at all; I had to *buy* relaying for my LINUX server! Not expensive, though. J For instance I can only send 10 messages at a time. If J I try to send more they disconnect me after the 10th. J If I send 10 once then try to send another few they J lock me out completely for a period of time -- some 10 J -15 minutes as I recall. I haven't run into this yet .. but I don't often send to a lot of people at once, so maybe I've managed to stay under the limit. We'll see how my vacation announcement goes .. J Ironic since it cripples some legitimate operations I J sometimes need to accomplish. EG: sending a large J attachment which needs to be split into more than 10 J parts. Or for that matter, sending some sort of announcement to *all* your relatives ... J While I can defeat the imposed limitations, I don't since nearly J everything under the sun is against the rules of their TOS and I J don't want to risk loosing the connection. No - we should probably write to them and point out that there are a lot of legitimate reasons to send something to more than 10 people. It's a service; it shouldn't be crippled ... I agree with whoever it was said that they'd as soon deal with the spam issues themselves; there doesn't really seem to be a good way for the isps to do it. Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search on imap account!?
Hello Davidhoff, Monday, May 3, 2004, 9:48:14 AM, you wrote: it's possible to search a message in a Imap account?? If I try to search something, on the search interface I press START but afer a second it say that nothing was found. Probably it don't search at all! It does search. It just doesn't display immediately, and doesn't updated the No messages Found status consistently. The only way to tell when it is done searching is to watch that account's activity in the Connection Centre. You will see it opening the various folders involved in the search. When it is done, it will just say On-line. Yet another IMAP quirk that I really hope gets some attention... -- Dave Using The Bat! v2.10 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB
Monday, May 3, 2004, 8:16:32 AM, you wrote: LT I find it interesting that *their* servers don't LT seem to be blacklisted ... TF Not so. I have to manually insert each emnail contact TF with a Yahoo address into my whitelist on GMX. ;-) lol! Good news, and bad news :-) Since there is no way for an isp to figure out which mail you might consider spam, I agree with whoever said it's better to handle it yourself. Now if we can only get them to offer us an 'opt out' option ... Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
Sunday, May 2, 2004, 7:47:33 AM, you wrote: CT Hi Dave, nothing else I've tried comes close to TB! for most features, but IMAP has become essential, and perhaps I'll need to compromise in other areas to get acceptable IMAP support. CT Exactly my conclusion. I've lost patience recently and registered CT Mulberry which I'm using heavily for my domain/IMAP traffic. If only CT that prog had some of the nice features of TB I'd die happy. I just recently set up an IMAP account with the smtp (outgoing) specified, and I forward the IMAP incoming to a POP3 account, and set up a filter to change the colo(u)r option for the mail from that account. So I read the mail via a pop3 account, and send mail via the IMAP smtp server. So far so good. Jim Lady Seattle Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB
Monday, May 3, 2004, 9:34:51 AM, you wrote: J I don't often use BCC but it might work for that. Ah .. I do use it, but it's a bit surprising that that would get through .. if it'll let me through, it'll let the spammers through, won't it .. tch J I came across some J 'mail list' widget on the comcast service page(s). I suppose that is J their legal answer/solution to mass mailings. Never looked at it J seriously though since I believe it's some sort of web based J contraption. I *loathe* web based contraptions .. lol! But that would seem to defeat the purpose, too .. I have been, with some misgivings, flagging the spams I get through the account, in hopes that they might be trying to track, and have closed, the open relays that are probably the crux of the spam problem, but I may be shooting myself in the foot there. J While I can defeat the imposed limitations, I don't since nearly J everything under the sun is against the rules of their TOS and I J don't want to risk loosing the connection. No - we should probably write to them and point out that there are a lot of legitimate reasons to send something to more than 10 people. It's a service; it shouldn't be crippled ... J I do this from time to time. They used to be much more J technically receptive before it became the AOL of J broadband. It seems to me that *all* of them used to be more technically receptive, or at least more technically adept. Probably showing my age :-) I agree with whoever it was said that they'd as soon deal with the spam issues themselves; there doesn't really seem to be a good way for the isps to do it. J Sounds like me. I just want the connection. @Home didn't realize J this and blew up trying to be something nobody apparently wanted J or needed. Since comcast has had the ball it's been so-so. J I've seen loss of services without rate reductions and rate J increases for who knows what.. Pay for the 800 commercials they run J each day perhaps. No doubt. They have been pretty good for us, on the whole, but they are bending the budget a bit .. and it was annoying not to be able to get a static ip or smtp relay, considering the price. There are now a lot of dial-up services popping up which have little or no tech support, for a very reasonable price. I suppose it's too much to hope that cable will go that route, given time. Looks like DSL will, but we can't get DSL :-( Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: IMAP rules ..
Monday, May 3, 2004, 9:52:21 AM, you wrote: JL I just recently set up an IMAP account with the smtp (outgoing) JL specified, and I forward the IMAP incoming to a JL POP3 account, and set up a JL filter to change the colo(u)r option for the mail from that account. JL So I read the mail via a pop3 account, and send mail via the IMAP smtp JL server. So far so good. Could you offer some details on this forwarding business? I'd really like my imap mail to be a bit more functional .. I had a look at Thunderbird, but wasn't all that enamored of it .. haven't got to Mulberry yet. Hate to have to buy two mail clients, though ... I really like TB. I was extolling it's virtues to a friend this weekend :-) Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:IMAP rules ..
So I read the mail via a pop3 account, and send mail via the IMAP smtp server. If that works for you, Jim, fine. But if your system is designed to overcome TB's shortcomings in the IMAP area a better solution would be to use a mail client (or web interface such as FastMail or MailSnare) that fully supports IMAP. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.10.01 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:IMAP rules ..
Hi Lynn, I'd really like my imap mail to be a bit more functional .. I had a look at Thunderbird, but wasn't all that enamored of it .. haven't got to Mulberry yet. I've just mentioned to Jim that FastMail or Mailsnare offer extremely good POP, IMAP and forwarding facilities for external mail. For me, the combination of FastMail and Mulberry, with mail from the odd POP account I have being collected by FastMail, gives me all the benefits of IMAP with none of the disadvantages of POP. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.10.01 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[9]: Spampal and Mygate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Richard, On 03 May 2004, 03:17 Richard Wakeford [RW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW Still trying! Still no success either :-( Just one more suggestion... use BayesIt and/or 40tude! :-)) - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.10.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.4 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQJaftjknq5PWREYNEQJO+gCg1sjcBIsVb02N2YazCYaz3y5HVFQAoKC7 grIe0vNrlCxO1S7AgmBSh2Hc =YgFJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP rules ..
Monday, May 3, 2004, 10:42:50 AM, you wrote: CT I've just mentioned to Jim that FastMail or CT Mailsnare offer extremely CT good POP, IMAP and forwarding facilities for external mail. well, I'm looking at Mulberry, but ... :-( I'm really not keen on web interfaces; do FastMail and MailSnare actually forward the mail out? If so, why can't it be forwarded to a POP account in TB? Maybe I'll just have to live with TB and hope they get to the IMAP stuff rsn .. I'm really so spoiled .. lol! Lynn TBv 2.04.7 Windowsv 5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Poll: Englisch Board / Forum
Hello TB List, because it seams that the Forum of Ritlabs ins constantly down and i am developing my TB! page step by step (also in English in the next weeks) is there a wish or the necessity for a new English Forum. If so i will open one; i have no traffic an space limit. -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.10.03 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0x70D9F03B HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[10]: Spampal and Mygate
Hello Martin, On Mon, 3 May 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MW Just one more suggestion... use BayesIt and/or 40tude! :-)) I tried 40tude and like it but use AMEOL as my main Newsreader because I'm subscribed to CIX and can also read their conferencing with it at the same time. I just use Mygate with TB! to read PGP conferences as TB! and PGP work very easily together. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.10.03 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Poll: Englisch Board / Forum
Hello Thomas, Monday, May 3, 2004, 8:56:59 PM, you wrote: TM Hello TB List, TM because it seams that the Forum of Ritlabs ins constantly down and i am TM developing my TB! page step by step (also in English in the next weeks) is TM there a wish or the necessity for a new English Forum. TM If so i will open one; i have no traffic an space limit. I'd love to see an english forum -- Best regards, Christophermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Poll: Englisch Board / Forum
Hello Christopher, on Monday, 3. May 2004, at 21:14:27 [GMT +0100] you wrote: TM because it seams that the Forum of Ritlabs ins constantly down and i am TM developing my TB! page step by step (also in English in the next weeks) is TM there a wish or the necessity for a new English Forum. I'd love to see an english forum Ok, test forum is on-line. I will extend it if it will be used. Also looking for moderators. For now these Url's. Will be changed in a proper domain soon. http://www.board.thebatworld.de http://board.thebatworld.de -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.10.03 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0x70D9F03B HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Customized folder set tabs?
Hello Alex, I'm particularly interested in having a tab associated with a particular color group, which I use a tag. However, I haven't been able to find a place where I could create a new tab or customize the properties of the preconfigured ones. Any clue? To create a tab you have to assign a colour groups to a folder (right click - Colour Group). Now, if you tagged messages are in different folders, create a VF (Virtual Folder) and on the Filter tab select Use filter and as condition use Colour is Your_Colour_Group. Now, when you create a new VF the default filter condition is Any message, right click on Any Message and ... -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Customized folder set tabs?
Thanks, Migel! What you described works. I sort of expected a bit different behavior (showing folders with messages assigned a specific color, just as with Unread). The problem with the virtual folder model you described is that it puts all tagged messages in one basket and the folder structure is lost... -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin/ Monday, May 3, 2004, 4:56:25 PM, MAU wrote: Hello Alex, I'm particularly interested in having a tab associated with a particular color group, which I use a tag. However, I haven't been able to find a place where I could create a new tab or customize the properties of the preconfigured ones. Any clue? To create a tab you have to assign a colour groups to a folder (right click - Colour Group). Now, if you tagged messages are in different folders, create a VF (Virtual Folder) and on the Filter tab select Use filter and as condition use Colour is Your_Colour_Group. Now, when you create a new VF the default filter condition is Any message, right click on Any Message and ... Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Customized folder set tabs?
The readme for 2.10 says: [+] Folder set tabs for viewing limited sets of folders like folders with unread messages, Virtual Folders and folders associated with a particular Colour Group I'm particularly interested in having a tab associated with a particular color group, which I use a tag. However, I haven't been able to find a place where I could create a new tab or customize the properties of the preconfigured ones. Any clue? -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin/ Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re-installing... need Serial Number?
Hello, I am about to install The Bat! v2 on my fresh Windows98SE formatted disk. I've bought The Bat! a year ago but don't remember my serial number. I've purchased a Student licence and want my serial number again... Who do I have to ask for? Is there any possibility to get my serial number again? Thanks in advance, -- Gabriel Menini Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Customized folder set tabs?
Hello Alex, Tuesday, May 4, 2004, 3:41:57 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): I sort of expected a bit different behavior (showing folders with messages assigned a specific color, just as with Unread). Wouldn't it also be a good idea to have the folder tabs be shown coloured with the colour that they are associated with? -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:IMAP rules ..
Hi Lynn, do FastMail and MailSnare actually forward the mail out? If so, why can't it be forwarded to a POP account in TB? Have a look at FastMail's features. Go to www.fastmail.fm and click the compare plans link. The short answer is that you can use POP or IMAP with any account you set up and forward mail into and from your account (POP only with paid accounts). Its web interface is quick and surprisingly sophisticated - I've been pleasantly surprised at how well it works. Maybe I'll just have to live with TB and hope they get to the IMAP stuff rsn .. Well, I live with TB and Mulberry daily. I like TB and its features but, in the area I now need, it just doesn't measure up. I hope it improves but I have reservations, unfortunately. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.10.01 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
