Re[4]: BayesIt
Hello Chenoa, Monday, June 21, 2004, 7:29:31 PM, you wrote: C> On 21 Jun 2004 at 09:22:21 you wrote: GD>> I would be happy if I could catch 1 spam... :-( GD>> I have SpamAssassin running on the mail server, it throws certain Spam into an IMAP GD>> account for manual proofing - I mark all this and flag as Junk (training GD>> BayesIt) C> I don't think bayesit works with imap. GD>> Spam that reaches TB also gets marked as Junk (more BayesIt training) C> So how many spam and non-spam messages have you marked? The information C> under preferences: does the size of the dictionaries increase? Well Fredrik sent me his base (spamdict.bye 30.000+ and nspamdict.bye 17.000+) so I should have a good sample. I checked today and I have caught 0 spam's, but I only received 2 in TB There is a lot of talk on the list about PopFile so I may give that a try -- Best regards, Grahammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat Password?
Howdy, I am wondering if there is a way to set a password to access my Mail in The Bat? Either a way to set a password to access the program or a password to access each account..? Is there a way? Cheers, Scott Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep attachments in message bodies
> Can anyone explain advantages and disadvantages of keeping attachments > in message bodies and in specific directory? some earlier versions had a bug that when you move a msg to another account, the attachements were not moved. i've been using "store in msg body" for more than 1 year since i realized the above bug, though it might have been fixed, i never tried "store separately" again. the pro is: - it *guarantees* the attachment to move with your msg - in the past there were times i received attachments whose filenames are foreign characters, which generated some funny looking file name on my hard drive, some even failed to open due to this reason. use "in body" solution, the attachment is temporarily stored to the working directory with a 8-digit hex filename only when it is opened, so you never run into the above problem. - better/easier for archive. with "store separately", attachment files lose their original folder/directory and are all put in the /attach directory. cons: - i feel it is slower to navigate in the folder if all attachments are stored in msg body. not very significantly but noticeable. - when you move/copy msgs to another folder/account, it is much slower than "store separately". - it seems the file size is always wrong when you receive a msg with attachment. there is always a couple of hundred byte deviation or so for a 10K file. save it to the disk and you'll see the actual size is different than what you see in msg window side pane (i'm sure i'm looking at the "file size" field, not "size on disk" field). but this doesn't really affect my work/life at all. and, like other people already noted, it "sounds" more risky to store all files in one big msg base, but actually i never saw any file corruption etc and now my msg base is about 1GB. so it is pretty solid. in case you want to switch among the 2 different ways: - from "in body" to "separately": i cannot remember exactly, but i think creating another account, then change the setting to "separately", and drag&drop all msgs from old account to the new one, it should finish this job. - vice versa: i don't think the above method is gonna work on the other direction (or it does, my impression of failure was just caused by the bug in the older version). anyway, use "tools" - "backup", there is an option to allow you to store external files in msg bodies. then restore it. no matter what you do, backup the entire mail directory beforehand to avoid any data loss. such changes to large amount of data might be very risky. -- Samson, using Agent newsreader Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP Servers
On Monday, June 21, 2004, John Phillips wrote... >> This is probably off topic and the moderators will kill me, but >> here we go :) >> Here in Sweden our ISPs are trying to stop SPAM and Viruses by not >> allowing connections to other SMTP servers than the one in the ISPs >> network. This means that on my notebook I need to use one SMTP >> server when I'm at home and one when I'm at work. > Easy solution, get your own SMTP server which I fail to see how your > isp can stop you using. Quite easily... at the router level block port 25 connections to anything but their SMTP servers. Running your own mail server then is pointless. Also some ISPs don't allow you to run services, and doing so introduces a breach of contract. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A preposition is what you don't end a sentence with. Um. pgpxedlOxVWsa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello Alexander! On Monday, June 21, 2004, 5:51 PM, you wrote: AG> Thanks! And what do you use? Do you know any bugs, associated with AG> keeping in message bodies? I use external dir. and know some bugs with AG> it :( So I want to change my method. I kept my attachments in the message bodies for almost two years and had no problems at all. Then my bat.tmp files became too many and I could not open the attachments. I have since emptied them and all attachments open just fine. I'm now keeping them with the external ATTACH file. But I plan to go back to my former method. Whichever you choose to do, the advice of an amateur bat user--myself--is to empty all temp folders regularly. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello Alexander, On Monday, June 21, 2004, at 02:51:09[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 15:51 where I live) Alexander wrote: Alexander> Thanks! And what do you use? Do you know any bugs, associated with Alexander> keeping in message bodies? I use external dir. and know some bugs with Alexander> it :( So I want to change my method. I'm happy with and using attach-in-msg-body, and I don't run across any bug involving that. -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello, Bobi! BJ> I have a little in my mind: Thanks! And what do you use? Do you know any bugs, associated with keeping in message bodies? I use external dir. and know some bugs with it :( So I want to change my method. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 • Powered by TheBat!™ v2.11.04 • Tuesday, June 22, 2004 • 2:47:39 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello Alexander, On Monday, June 21, 2004, at 02:18:45[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 15:18 where I live) Alexander wrote: Alexander> Can anyone explain advantages and disadvantages of keeping attachments Alexander> in message bodies and in specific directory? I have a little in my mind: *in-dir (pro) you can view all attachments easily. *in-dir (con) when move msg with attachment between folders, there will probably generate duplicated attachment in the specific dir. (in old version - how old? i don't remember - I don't test the latest versions) *in-body (pro) reverse what in-dir(con) says *in-body (con) reverse what in-dir(pro) says -- Best regards, TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keep attachments in message bodies
Hello, TBudl! Can anyone explain advantages and disadvantages of keeping attachments in message bodies and in specific directory? -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 ∙ Powered by TheBat!≥ v2.11.04 ∙ Tuesday, June 22, 2004 ∙ 2:17:29 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Following a thread form a folder
Hello, Edgar! EvD> So he is mixing it all up. EvD> Has any one the same problem or know how to correct it? I've seen such problem earlier. I think you should select Folder - Refresh. I use 2.11.04, and as I remember here this bug is fixed. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 • Powered by TheBat!™ v2.11.04 • Tuesday, June 22, 2004 • 1:14:06 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Following a thread form a folder
Hello All, I'm trying to use the "Watch replies in ..." feature to follow some threads, but to my surprise, the subject of the threads are still in the folder but the messages that will be shown in the preview pane are other messages (with other subjects) So he is mixing it all up. Has any one the same problem or know how to correct it? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.11.02, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpKVH66CHAIH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP Servers
Hi Fredrik, On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, at 16:28:21 [GMT+0200] (which was Tue, 0:28:21 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > This is probably off topic and the moderators will kill me, but here > we go :) > Here in Sweden our ISPs are trying to stop SPAM and Viruses by not > allowing connections to other SMTP servers than the one in the ISPs > network. This means that on my notebook I need to use one SMTP > server when I'm at home and one when I'm at work. Easy solution, get your own SMTP server which I fail to see how your isp can stop you using. Google is your friend; I use Mail Direct. http://www.ocloudsoft.com/ -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Four snack groups: frozen, crunchies, cakes and sweets. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Hi Feli, On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, at 14:00:21 [GMT+0200] (which was 22:00:21 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: >> Where did you get that version from? > go to http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/, register as beta tester and > download the latest version. Thanks, beta versions previously showed as "Beta" IIRC, and I thought maybe the cache on my isp wasn't flushing properly. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise my hand! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: BayesIt
Hello Chenoa, Monday, June 21, 2004, 12:29:31 PM, you wrote: C> So how many spam and non-spam messages have you marked? I was at upwards of 1,000 posts in spam and almost that many ham posts before I was getting solid results, but this was under the earlier build. I am a bit out of date at the moment, but I wouldn't expect it to take more training in the later versions. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mailing list address
Hello, J>> I saw mention on here sometime back about another mailing list for TB. PB> Maybe you are thinking of the Canadian one: My thanks to everyone that replied. This is the one I was thinking of. -- Jack Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking up the mail account where it was received from
Hello MAU, On Sunday, June 20, 2004, 2:03:14 AM, you wrote: M> "Message Source" is the complete message, headers and body. Use the M> Search Tool and do any search on Headers. Then, create the VF from the M> search tool and the new VF filer will now be "Header" "contains" This will work but when I then go to the VF and adjust only the "Select folder" setting to ad some folders it will select all messages and not only the messages with the filter (header contains x) Is this a bug that you can confirm? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.11.02, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 To give an accurate description of what has never occurred is not merely the proper occupation of the historian, but the inalienable privilege of any man of parts and culture. - Oscar Wilde To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpdICckryrXq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Hello Wayne, On 21 Jun 2004 at 21:03:10 -0600 GMT [05:03 CEST] you wrote: WK> Will AVG work without the plugin? I only use pop3 and am happy WK> to have infected messages/attachments just deleted. What's so terrible wrong with doing exactly that with a plugin? -- Cheers, Andre "Ein Kuß ist Mund-zu-Mund-Beatmung ohne medizinischen Anlaß." Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: BayesIt
On 21 Jun 2004 at 09:22:21 you wrote: GD> I would be happy if I could catch 1 spam... :-( GD> I have SpamAssassin running on the mail server, it throws certain Spam into an IMAP GD> account for manual proofing - I mark all this and flag as Junk (training GD> BayesIt) I don't think bayesit works with imap. GD> Spam that reaches TB also gets marked as Junk (more BayesIt training) So how many spam and non-spam messages have you marked? The information under preferences: does the size of the dictionaries increase? GD> The problem is that BayesIt never catches spam on it's own !! GD> I did not have this problem with BayesIt 0.4g, I have followed the advice GD> to delete all previous dictionaries, but BayesIt just sits there and does GD> nothing -- Gruß, Chenoa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds. Biochemistry is the study of carbon compounds that crawl." Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto signature
Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:51:05 +0200 (12:51 PM EDT here) Johnathan Hershbaum wrote: > Hello > How Does one create a autosignature at the end of your message. First create a Quick Template, lets call it Sig . TheBat! => Options => Quick Templates [Add] Handle: [Sig] Template: Next add the signature to each account template you'd like it to be part of. TheBat! => Account => Properties Templates Select, in turn, each template you'd like the signature to appear in and add the following last line to each selected template: %QINCLUDE(Sig)%- Using: The Bat! v2.10.03, BayesIt! 0.5.4, MyMacros 1.10 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello all, Monday, June 21, 2004, Dave Gorman wrote: >> Holding the Alt key while selecting any item in the message list will >> list only those messages containing that particular item. > Wow! How nifty is that?! I've been using TB for years and I didn't > know about that little tidbit! this is one of tips available in "Help | Tip of the day" menu. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Hello Allie, Sunday, June 20, 2004, 6:20:57 AM, you wrote: > Holding the Alt key while selecting any item in the message list will > list only those messages containing that particular item. Wow! How nifty is that?! I've been using TB for years and I didn't know about that little tidbit! -- :Dave_Gorman: Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP Servers
Hello tbudl, This is probably off topic and the moderators will kill me, but here we go :) Here in Sweden our ISPs are trying to stop SPAM and Viruses by not allowing connections to other SMTP servers than the one in the ISPs network. This means that on my notebook I need to use one SMTP server when I'm at home and one when I'm at work. I solved this by creating a small software that is placed in the Tray and selected the right SMTP server based on where you are on the Internet. The software is in Beta state and I would really like to have some beta testers, anyone interested? Please contact me off-list about beta testing. Well, its not that much off topic :) Maybe I should read the rules before getting another moderator cut mark in one day :). Hey, what is the purpose of this butto... -- /Fredrik The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problems with lockups when downloading mail.
Hello Thomas, Monday, June 21, 2004, 3:07:38 PM, you wrote: TF> Hello Fredrik, [...] FB>> I have Bayesit! 0.5.5 and AVG installed. I had the same problem when FB>> using Bayesit! 0.4 but I do not know if it is caused by that. FB>> Anyone that have had the same problem? TF> I have seen many reports (here and on the German lists) about the TF> BayesIt plugin causing problems. Try uninstalling the plugin and see TF> whether the problem persists. I have reinstalled the plugin and trained it with some 100k mails until it crashed ;). But now it seems to be detecting more spam than when using the older version and I just have to wait and see if it locks up again (hope not). FB>> /Fredrik TF> Did you know that the mods are rumoured to trout with thebaticons for TF> missing sig delimiters? ;-) Hehe. They may come and visit me here in Sweden anytime and trout as much as they like :) -- /Fredrik The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
From info (was: If I set up The Bat on a network...)
Hello admin, On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:05:48 +0100 GMT (21/06/2004, 15:05 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu> It's a folder - not an account - so I have set From as 'Marten aacu> Gallagher' under the Identity tab - so it eviently is not taking it aacu> from the 'From' info. Works here (see above). Some ISPs (for example T-Online, the biggest ISP in Germany) cut the real name from the From address. You have to shell out extra money to use another SMTP server of theirs if you don't want it cut. Maybe your ISP does the same? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. What is this? Arnold Schwarzenegger has a big one... Cher and Madonna don't have one... And the Pope doesn't use his... Answer: A Last Name! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with lockups when downloading mail.
Hello Fredrik, On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:39:09 +0200 GMT (21/06/2004, 14:39 +0700 GMT), Fredrik Bergström wrote: FB> Actually, I'm back. Welcome back. FB> I really need to send another picture to the rouges gallery, the one FB> there is _old_ :) We are looking forward to it! :-) FB> Well, anyway. I'm having some problems with The Bat! hanging when FB> downloading mail, or not hanging but the download stops and the task FB> stays in the Connection Centre. [...] FB> I have Bayesit! 0.5.5 and AVG installed. I had the same problem when FB> using Bayesit! 0.4 but I do not know if it is caused by that. FB> Anyone that have had the same problem? I have seen many reports (here and on the German lists) about the BayesIt plugin causing problems. Try uninstalling the plugin and see whether the problem persists. FB> /Fredrik Did you know that the mods are rumoured to trout with thebaticons for missing sig delimiters? ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. The only person getting his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Problems with lockups when downloading mail.
Hello admin, Monday, June 21, 2004, 1:30:08 PM, you wrote: >> Hi Fredrik, >> on Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:39:09 +0200GMT, you wrote: FB>>> I'm having some problems with The Bat! hanging when FB>>> downloading mail, or not hanging but the download stops and the task FB>>> stays in the Connection Centre. FB>>> If I want to close The Bat! when a Task is "hung" I need to use the FB>>> Task Manager. This means that I will loose all settings for folders FB>>> that I have made since the last startup of The Bat! ;( >> It happens here every once in a while, but not often. I thought it had >> to do with K9 or MyGate, but most of the time it works ok, even when I >> check all accounts. I cannot reproduce it deliberately. aacu> Are you using the BayesIt plug-in? aacu> I got continual lock-ups exactly as you described - poss because I had aacu> many email accounts to check as well. aacu> I ditched BayesIt and went to POPFile as a result. aacu> Amybe BayesIt has a problem when there are many connections going on? I thought that maybe AVG or something else was the problem, so I disabled AVG and Bayesit! and the problem was gone. I will try enabling BayesTt and see if the problem comes back, if so I will send a bug report to the developers. -- /Fredrik The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Hello John, On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:57:30 +1000GMT(21.06.2004, 12:57 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> The Bat! 2.11.04 > Where did you get that version from? go to http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/, register as beta tester and download the latest version. -- Kind Regards :Feli: The Bat! 2.11.04 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problems with lockups when downloading mail.
> Hi Fredrik, > on Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:39:09 +0200GMT, you wrote: FB>> I'm having some problems with The Bat! hanging when FB>> downloading mail, or not hanging but the download stops and the task FB>> stays in the Connection Centre. FB>> If I want to close The Bat! when a Task is "hung" I need to use the FB>> Task Manager. This means that I will loose all settings for folders FB>> that I have made since the last startup of The Bat! ;( > It happens here every once in a while, but not often. I thought it had > to do with K9 or MyGate, but most of the time it works ok, even when I > check all accounts. I cannot reproduce it deliberately. Are you using the BayesIt plug-in? I got continual lock-ups exactly as you described - poss because I had many email accounts to check as well. I ditched BayesIt and went to POPFile as a result. Amybe BayesIt has a problem when there are many connections going on? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with lockups when downloading mail.
Hi Fredrik, on Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:39:09 +0200GMT, you wrote: FB> I'm having some problems with The Bat! hanging when FB> downloading mail, or not hanging but the download stops and the task FB> stays in the Connection Centre. FB> If I want to close The Bat! when a Task is "hung" I need to use the FB> Task Manager. This means that I will loose all settings for folders FB> that I have made since the last startup of The Bat! ;( It happens here every once in a while, but not often. I thought it had to do with K9 or MyGate, but most of the time it works ok, even when I check all accounts. I cannot reproduce it deliberately. -- Cheers Peter "He's not dead, he's electroencephalographically challenged." Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Hi Feli, On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, at 12:23:12 [GMT+0200] (which was 20:23:12 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > The Bat! 2.11.04 Where did you get that version from? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 What has four legs and an arm? A happy pit bull. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Hello Fredrik, On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:28:20 +0200GMT(21.06.2004, 10:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: > I guess that I have to select lots of HAM (nonspam?) and click "Mark > as not SPAM"? that's it :-) -- Kind Regards :Feli: The Bat! 2.11.04 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What about creating a batpost mailing list ?
Hello Leif, Friday, June 18, 2004, 10:57:43 PM you wrote: Claude>> So, do you know if Ritlabs plan to create such a list ? LG> Not that I'm aware of. RitLabs doesn't run any of the TB lists. They LG> are *all* volunteer efforts. Look, I'll be glad to host such a list, but that's where it would all end. Other people will have to moderate and maintain it, and depending on the traffic you would have to setup an archive at mail-archive or something. -- Regards, Charles. TB! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair a backup file?
Hello all, Monday, June 21, 2004, Michael L. Wilson wrote: > I was forced to reformat and reinstall windows. Prior to that, I > backed up my bat using the internal backup. After the reinstall, I > tried to restore and was told that the file could not be read. I was > told that after about 150 messages were restored. So, is there any > way to repair a backup file? This is truly disappointing for such a > cutting edge mail program. I don't know about repair utility, but there is a program called tbkDigger, which can extract data from TBK file, here is a link to it: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/tbkdigger.zip -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIt
Hello Feli, Monday, June 21, 2004, 9:58:55 AM, you wrote: FW> Hello Fredrik, FW> On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:33:20 +0200GMT(21.06.2004, 09:33 +0200, where I FW> live), you wrote: >> I marked all the mails that I have in my Junk folders (about 25.000) >> and clicked "Mark as Junk" from the Specials Menu. That's the new way >> to train, it even shows a small dialog (if you have enabled it) that >> says training. FW> But don't forget to train BayesIt also on Ham. If possible, take the FW> same amout of ham than of spam. Ohh, that is interesting, that may be why I have problems with the filtering :) I guess that I have to select lots of HAM (nonspam?) and click "Mark as not SPAM"? Would be nice to have that in the knowledgebase on ritlabs.com since I think that lots of people have problems using BayesIt! > 0.4 just because they do not know how they should train it. /Fredrik Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: BayesIt
Hello Fredrik, Monday, June 21, 2004, 9:33:20 AM, you wrote: FB> Hello Graham, FB> Monday, June 21, 2004, 9:22:21 AM, you wrote: GD>> I would be happy if I could catch 1 spam... :-( GD>> I did not have this problem with BayesIt 0.4g, I have followed the advice GD>> to delete all previous dictionaries, but BayesIt just sits there and does GD>> nothing FB> I installed a newer version of Bayesit! yesterday, going from 0.4gm to FB> 0.5.5. FB> I marked all the mails that I have in my Junk folders (about 25.000) FB> and clicked "Mark as Junk" from the Specials Menu. That's the new way FB> to train, it even shows a small dialog (if you have enabled it) that FB> says training. This is what I am also doing, but I don't get any dialog - Where do you enable this ? BTW where did you get 0.5.5 from as I could not find 0.5.3 anywhere (someone on the list sent it to me) FB> Would have been fun to have some kind of documentation for 0.5.5, I FB> found some in russian but babelfish.alstavista.com did not help me FB> that much, and I did not understand anything of it :). I know what you mean :-) FB> If you do not have enough SPAM I could send you some :) for training. I think if you sent me spamdict.bye and nspamdict.bye this would work -- thanks for the help, Grahammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: If I set up The Bat on a network...
> Hello admin, > On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:54:43 +0100 GMT (20/06/2004, 06:54 +0700 GMT), > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Hallo admin, > You need to fill in your name under Account / Properties / General > / From information. There are other possibilities, sich as folder > identities or macros, let's go into that if you need it. It's a folder - not an account - so I have set From as 'Marten Gallagher' under the Identity tab - so it eviently is not taking it from the 'From' info. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Hello Fredrik, On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:33:20 +0200GMT(21.06.2004, 09:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: > I marked all the mails that I have in my Junk folders (about 25.000) > and clicked "Mark as Junk" from the Specials Menu. That's the new way > to train, it even shows a small dialog (if you have enabled it) that > says training. But don't forget to train BayesIt also on Ham. If possible, take the same amout of ham than of spam. -- Kind Regards :Feli: The Bat! 2.11.04 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Large message on Yahoo POP3 account
On Monday, June 21, 2004, 10:49:38 AM, you wrote: > Try to set Account -> Properties -> Transport -> Server Timeout > not 60 sec., but ...hm... 600! It can help. I'll try it. Thanks for the advice. Hope it'll work. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Large message on Yahoo POP3 account
Hello, Shahar! >> Have you tried disabling virus checking of incomming e-mails? (but do >> not disable all virus checking). S> No, I haven't. Small files are retrieving fine. I have this S> problem only with the large ones. I have similar problem when used Kaspersky Antivirus 5.0 Personal. It tries to check mail directly on server, so, if the message is big, it responds timeout. Try to set Account -> Properties -> Transport -> Server Timeout not 60 sec., but ...hm... 600! It can help. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 • Powered by TheBat!™ v2.11.04 • Monday, June 21, 2004 • 11:46:20 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Large message on Yahoo POP3 account
On Monday, June 21, 2004, 10:32:28 AM, you wrote: > Have you tried disabling virus checking of incomming e-mails? (but do > not disable all virus checking). No, I haven't. Small files are retrieving fine. I have this problem only with the large ones. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with lockups when downloading mail.
Hello tbudl, Actually, I'm back. I really need to send another picture to the rouges gallery, the one there is _old_ :) Well, anyway. I'm having some problems with The Bat! hanging when downloading mail, or not hanging but the download stops and the task stays in the Connection Centre. If I want to close The Bat! when a Task is "hung" I need to use the Task Manager. This means that I will loose all settings for folders that I have made since the last startup of The Bat! ;( I have Bayesit! 0.5.5 and AVG installed. I had the same problem when using Bayesit! 0.4 but I do not know if it is caused by that. Anyone that have had the same problem? /Fredrik Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recommendation for Regular Expressions
Hello, Russell! RLF> Before you get to the text, does anyone know why this RLF> message, which originally was sent in html format was bounced? RLF> I've now changed it to all text. I think. It's because of list rules, I think. I have sent one message to this list with an example in attach (less than 1 KB), but it has reached the list without this attachment! -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Gladilin ICQ #154518000 • Powered by TheBat!™ v2.11.04 • Monday, June 21, 2004 • 11:34:28 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: BayesIt
Hello Graham, Monday, June 21, 2004, 9:22:21 AM, you wrote: GD> Hello Andre, GD> Saturday, June 19, 2004, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: AW>> Hello Richard, AW>> On 19 Jun 2004 at 05:33:38 +0500 GMT [02:33 CEST] you wrote: RHS>>> I'm using BayesIT, and have no problems with it. It's catching about RHS>>> 95% of the spam, which I hope will increase eventually, but even then RHS>>> that's only one or two a day that get through. AW>> Mine is at 99.8% for last month and 99.94% for last week :) GD> I would be happy if I could catch 1 spam... :-( GD> I have SpamAssassin running on the mail server, it throws certain Spam into an IMAP GD> account for manual proofing - I mark all this and flag as Junk (training GD> BayesIt) GD> Spam that reaches TB also gets marked as Junk (more BayesIt training) GD> The problem is that BayesIt never catches spam on it's own !! GD> I did not have this problem with BayesIt 0.4g, I have followed the advice GD> to delete all previous dictionaries, but BayesIt just sits there and does GD> nothing I installed a newer version of Bayesit! yesterday, going from 0.4gm to 0.5.5. I see that the only difference is that you need to remove the earlier bases and that the training function in the configuration dialog is gone. I marked all the mails that I have in my Junk folders (about 25.000) and clicked "Mark as Junk" from the Specials Menu. That's the new way to train, it even shows a small dialog (if you have enabled it) that says training. Would have been fun to have some kind of documentation for 0.5.5, I found some in russian but babelfish.alstavista.com did not help me that much, and I did not understand anything of it :). If you do not have enough SPAM I could send you some :) for training. /Fredrik Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Large message on Yahoo POP3 account
On 21-6 at 8:50 Shahar wrote: Hello > I'm having troubles with large messages on a Yahoo! account. > I'm using POP3 to retrieve the message. > Please see the account log: > !21.06.2004, 09:40:29: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last > commands sent were: "TOP 4 55", "RETR 1") (cut) > TB can't download the message and I have to login manually using a web browser. > Using TB 2.11.03 on Win 2000 Pro. F-Secure as Anti Virus and ADSL connection. I have the same problem with one e-mail account (at pop3.tiscali.dk). It happens when I try to download some virus infected e-mails and my Norton Antivirus 2003 tries to clean them. It can clean some viruses without any error, but not all. I also have that problem with Mozilla Thunderbird. Have you tried disabling virus checking of incomming e-mails? (but do not disable all virus checking). -- Best regards, Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Using TheBat 2.11.02 on Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) build 2195, Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIt
Hello Andre, Saturday, June 19, 2004, 12:25:11 PM, you wrote: AW> Hello Richard, AW> On 19 Jun 2004 at 05:33:38 +0500 GMT [02:33 CEST] you wrote: RHS>> I'm using BayesIT, and have no problems with it. It's catching about RHS>> 95% of the spam, which I hope will increase eventually, but even then RHS>> that's only one or two a day that get through. AW> Mine is at 99.8% for last month and 99.94% for last week :) I would be happy if I could catch 1 spam... :-( I have SpamAssassin running on the mail server, it throws certain Spam into an IMAP account for manual proofing - I mark all this and flag as Junk (training BayesIt) Spam that reaches TB also gets marked as Junk (more BayesIt training) The problem is that BayesIt never catches spam on it's own !! I did not have this problem with BayesIt 0.4g, I have followed the advice to delete all previous dictionaries, but BayesIt just sits there and does nothing -- Best regards, Grahammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
