Re: write Central European characters in templates
Cześć Cyrille, w 4 lipca 2004 o 20:02 napisałeś w wiadomości mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] między innymi: > No! My Windows is English and the default codepage of my system is 'Western'. > I do not see then why TB should behave differently in your case. > How do you input the Polish text? For the text above I have a QT! I have written all with Polish characters and today I have seen that the characters have not been anymore there! Why? Therefore I wrote it once more! > Do you manage to type Polish in other applications? I have only problems with templates and addressbooks! I can wirte Polish characters in eMails and I can see them there. I'm also in the Polish lista dyskusyjna! Because I live now in Poland I write many in this language though I must learn many in this matter. My wife is from Poland but she don't speak German! With Word I don't have problems! I only wrote in the mailinglist concerning this matter, because I think that it is very necessary. Ritlabs is in Moldavia and they normally must know this. I wrote about this problems more than 2 years. Do you have Polish names in your addressbook and do you get the Polish letters in it, when you write to one? I, not! I see then only for example "Kudlacik" and not "Kudłacik" or "Rafal" and not "Rafał"! I have written to you personally, because I think, that "Polish language" is not interesting for the people in the lists. -- Serdeczne pozdrowienia Roland PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 (DH/DSS) Uzywam The Bat! wersja 2.12 Beta/7 w Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support (was: problems copying Russian text from email-body)
Hello Andre, On Saturday, July 3, 2004, at 12:55 Lithuanian Time, you wrote: AW> Ritlabs said it is planned. That's all we know. RitLabs said "it's planned" two or three years ago. Version 2.00 was supposed to support unicode. Now we have 2.11.02 and still no unicode support. -- Edvinas Using The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail import
Hello Ravi, The best tool I've found for GMAIL is eMail2Pop which works perfectly with "The Bat". http://www.email2pop.com -- Paul Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
> admin, > Friday, July 2, 2004, 12:50:40 AM, you wrote: aacu>> I really need some practical advice on this whole aacu>> business of synchronising two copies of The Bat! > It may not be what you need, but I just use the backup tool. When I am > going to travel, I just backup the main computer and then restore on > the laptop, reversing the process when I return. That way I have all > received and sent mail current on whatever machine I will be using. Yes but I also have all the email that I delteted back again. It's an aumenting system not a synchronising system. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Delete a msg on server before download ?
>> Somebody disturb my mailbox with useless mails. Can I remove these mails on the >> server with a TB feature instead of downloading them. First I had made a filter >> on his address but the problem is that the mall is downloaded before being >> destroyed, therefore a download long and useless! C> A filter which filters before downloading is called "selective C> download". That's what you need. What you tried was a "normal" filter. C> In your versions it's called "Téléchargement sélectif". Account ->> Sorting Office/Filters -> Selective Download Thanks. It's really what I need ! Just a little problem, I think it could be a good idea in a new version of TB to have the possibility of sending an auto mail to the sender that I automatically kill his mails. Like the features named "Action" in ordinary filters. If not, the sender never knows what I've decided to do with his mails. In case of friends who send me too much jokes of 5 or 6 Mo per day of course, for spammer I don't mind. Suppose one of this mail is very important, without automatic answer like "Your mail has been automatically killed - If it is important, try to phone the person...", I become unreachable. -- WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 2.11.02 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail import
On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 5:46 AM, you wrote: PS> The best tool I've found for GMAIL is eMail2Pop which works perfectly PS> with "The Bat". PS> http://www.email2pop.com you must have got in on the gmail test early ! I would hope that sourceforge will eventually come out with a project, like yahoopops for GMAIL.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-1 (02.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter question
G'day all, A question to which I have not been able to find an answer. (One of the MANY that I would have no answers to if it were not for this list, as the documentation is seriously sub-standard, especially given what a terrific program it is.) I filter all of my tbudl email into one folder. Some of the emails I keep (park), and every so often I move the parked emails into a sub-folder called (imaginatively) - 'keep'. What I would like to do is have the program automatically move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length of time. (Say, five days.) In the 'advanced' tab of the filter I can tell it only to work if the message is parked, read and over 4 days old, but I have some difficulties: 1) what triggers the filter? 2) When running the filter manually, sometimes it moves the messages but sometimes it copies them, which is a major problem. I have nothing in the filter string, rule is active, I am confused. Answers gratefully accepted... (As an aside, the organisation of filters in TheBat! leaves a LOT to be desired as well. Coming from Agent, where filter management was simple and clear, it was something of a shock to find that such powerful filters were so difficult to keep organised.) -- cheers, Mic (return address works) I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
Hello admin, Sunday, July 4, 2004, 5:03:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu>>> I really need some practical advice on this whole aacu>>> business of synchronising two copies of The Bat! >> It may not be what you need, but I just use the backup tool. When I am >> going to travel, I just backup the main computer and then restore on >> the laptop, reversing the process when I return. That way I have all >> received and sent mail current on whatever machine I will be using. aacu> Yes but I also have all the email that I delteted back again. It's an aacu> aumenting system not a synchronising system. Are you talking about the backup tool or synchronizing? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
Hello admin, On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 11:03:40 +0100 GMT (04/07/2004, 17:03 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu> Yes but I also have all the email that I delteted back again. It's an aacu> aumenting system not a synchronising system. Yes, it is. I think only IMAP does what you want. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A day without fusion is like a day without sunshine. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
Hi Allister Jenks - On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, at 16:12:33 [GMT +1200] (which was 9:12 PM where I live) you wrote: > Sunday, July 4, 2004, 10:33:11 AM, Kevin wrote: > OK, I'm being a bit of a purist, but I feel in good company considering > the extensive anti-HTML email threads of times gone by. > And yes, I know the two pages look different, but with less code I > solved the original poster's problem and if one were fussy about the > width then a simple ";width:568px" added to the TABLE style would fix > the only fundamental difference (actually, *I* think mine looks better > anyway). > That's my concern. I understand what you are saying. My only point was that (1)TB is not designed to be a graphic HTML editor. It has some basic tools and that is it. (2) For fancier work, an external (not just MS Office components) program will be necessary. Whether one chooses to use Word, Excel, Open Office, Star Office or something else isn't the point. I, for one, am not going to write HTML to facilitate table design in TB. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpajH3vGDL3a.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
Hello Thomas, Sunday, July 4, 2004, 9:28:48 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: aacu>> Yes but I also have all the email that I delteted back again. It's an aacu>> aumenting system not a synchronising system. TF> Yes, it is. I think only IMAP does what you want. I am no expert, but I think Thomas is correct here. Unfortunately this doesn't appear to be a viable option per http://www.annerykiln.co.uk/thebat.txt. Richard may have given good advice per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], however I see you have a problem per your #15 on http://www.annerykiln.co.uk/thebat.txt. I am no expert on TB backup tool, but when using TB backup tool have you tried *only* selecting the following: 1 Folder with Messages 2 Address Books 3 Attachment Files On your http://www.annerykiln.co.uk/thebat.txt you talk about a "BackUp application" and do not state what it is, but mention the problem of NTFS file access which sounds like a permissions problem. Whatever you use for a backup and restore option are you doing it from an admin account? Thinking out loud and not being an XP expert it almost sounds like the permissions are getting messed up with the backup application. If you are using limited accounts to access TB on different machines, does the NTFS permissions carry forward to the restored directories? If yes and the limited accounts have different names, then this may be what is causing the problem. Whatever! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Deleting Reminder
In TB! 2.11.03, I tried to delete a reminder after its time had come and gone, but was unable to do it. I went in through Tools/Scheduler. Is there another way that is required, or do past scheduled items not delete? -- JN Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter question
Hallo M, On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:31:30 +0800GMT (4-7-2004, 14:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MIC> What I would like to do is have the program automatically MIC> move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length MIC> of time. (Say, five days.) You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by triggering the filter manually. MIC> In the 'advanced' tab of the filter I can tell it only to MIC> work if the message is parked, read and over 4 days old, but I MIC> have some difficulties: MIC> 1) what triggers the filter? The conditions of the filter (in the first place) Combined with the message being received, read or answered (depending on the filter) these are bypassed by executing the filter manually. MIC> 2) When running the filter manually, sometimes it moves the MIC> messages but sometimes it copies them, which is a major problem. That's because your messages are parked, being parked means that they won't be deleted, so moving ends in copying as the message appears in the keep-folder but 'forgets' to disappear in the source folder. Maybe it'll help if you set the filter to unpark the message. MIC> (As an aside, the organisation of filters in TheBat! leaves MIC> a LOT to be desired as well. Coming from Agent, where filter MIC> management was simple and clear, it was something of a shock to MIC> find that such powerful filters were so difficult to keep MIC> organised.) Though I've used Agent only for news, I must say that I've never really understood Agent's filtering mechanisms. I suppose it's part of TB's filtering strength that the filters are executed in the order you place them. As for keeping them organised, I'm using a couple of dummy filters to divide my sorting office in sections, they're filters with an impossible condition, like in recipient, but as names they're using long strings as this: " Mailinglists **" That means that while browsing through the sorting office I easily find my filters for mailing lists, for AB filters, etc -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AntiVirus / X Header Question
Hello, I used to run Symantec AntiVirus on my PC. I recently uninstalled it and moved to AVG so I could utilize The Bat! plugin. When I send a message, I still get this header for outbound mail: X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine I have uninstalled Symantec completely (LiveReg, LiveUpdate, NAV, etc). Yet I still see this header. I'm thinking it's hard coded somewhere? If so, where can I change this? If it's not hard coded, does anyone know why my AVG plugin isn't adding the proper text to the message header? -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiVirus / X Header Question
On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 21:56:09, Mike Dillinger wrote: > I have uninstalled Symantec completely (LiveReg, LiveUpdate, NAV, etc). > Yet I still see this header. It's possible that your ISP has Symantec on their server - you seem to be posting from rr.com, and as far as I can see, other posts coming through rr.com have the same header. -- < Jernej Simoncic ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ > < for personal mail, replace guest.arnes.si with isg.si > No matter which book you need, it's on the bottom shelf. -- Law of Libraries Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mails lost!
Hello TBUDL, I've noticed the last days that I get empty messages, but thought that this may be strange spam. But now I noticed an empty mail which was filtered to "Known mail" and I looked closer at it: it was from a known person, but all I have are the first headers: ->8 X-POPFile-TimeoutPrevention: 0 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2004 19:Subject: X-Text-Classification: english X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:7878/jump_to_message?view=popfile13559=1.msg ->8 While the message was received the connection was closed. the POPFile log says: ->8 2004/7/5 00:34:56 2196: pop3: 449: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.21.1) server ready 2004/7/5 00:34:58 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --USER XX-- 2004/7/5 00:34:59 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message LOGIN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/7/5 00:35:01 2196: pop3: 639: Connected to mail.spamcop.net:110 timeout 60 2004/7/5 00:35:02 2196: pop3: 675: Connection returned: +OK Hello there. 2004/7/5 00:35:02 2196: pop3: 449: USER XX 2004/7/5 00:35:03 2196: pop3: 449: +OK Password required. 2004/7/5 00:35:03 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --PASS XX-- 2004/7/5 00:35:04 2196: pop3: 449: PASS XX 2004/7/5 00:35:04 2196: pop3: 449: +OK logged in. 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --STAT-- 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: STAT 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: +OK 5 18250 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --LIST-- 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: LIST 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: +OK POP3 clients that break here, they violate STD53. 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --UIDL-- 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: UIDL 2004/7/5 00:35:06 2196: pop3: 449: +OK 2004/7/5 00:35:06 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --RETR 1-- 2004/7/5 00:35:06 2196: pop3: 449: RETR 1 2004/7/5 00:35:07 2196: pop3: 449: +OK 4008 octets follow. 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message NEWFL:popfile13559=1.msg 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message CLASS:english W1DRh6oQYhZws6Hfb 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --RETR 2-- 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: RETR 2 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: -ERR no response from mail server 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message CMPLT 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 552: POP3 forked child done 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: html: 357: Got NEWFL for popfile13559=1.msg 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.21.1) server ready 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --USER XX-- 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message LOGIN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: -ERR can't connect to mail.planet-school.de:110 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message CMPLT 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 552: POP3 forked child done 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.21.1) server ready 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --USER XX-- ->8 and the TB-protocol-log says: ->8 [00:34:47] C: Connected to 127.0.0.1, port 110 [00:34:57] S: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.21.1) server ready [00:34:57] C: USER mail.spamcop.net:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [00:35:03] S: +OK Password required. [00:35:03] C: PASS xxx [00:35:05] S: +OK logged in. [00:35:05] C: STAT [00:35:05] S: +OK 5 18250 [00:35:05] C: LIST [00:35:05] S: +OK POP3 clients that break here, they violate STD53. [00:35:05] S: 1 4008 [00:35:05] S: 2 2499 [00:35:05] S: 3 1912 [00:35:05] S: 4 3781 [00:35:05] S: 5 6050 [00:35:05] S: . [00:35:05] C: UIDL [00:35:06] S: +OK [00:35:06] S: 1 UID4317-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: 2 UID4318-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: 3 UID4319-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: 4 UID4320-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: 5 UID4321-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: . [00:35:06] C: RETR 1 [00:35:07] S: +OK 4008 octets follow. [00:35:15] S: X-POPFile-TimeoutPrevention: 0 [00:35:20] S: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [00:35:20] S: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [00:35:20] S: Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2004 19:Subject: [00:35:20] S: X-Text-Classification: english [00:35:20] S: X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:7878/jump_to_message?view=popfile13559=1.msg [00:35:20] S: . [00:35:20] C: RETR 2 [00:35:21] S: -ERR no response from mail server [00:35:21] C: DELE 1 [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) ->8 It seems to be a POPFile error. Is it? This is so baad.. :( -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted w
Re: Filter question
On Sunday, July 4, 2004 @ 11:39:55 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: [snips] MIC>> What I would like to do is have the program automatically MIC>> move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length MIC>> of time. (Say, five days.) Roelof> You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by Roelof> triggering the filter manually. Ah, pain. OK, can I set all my manual filters to the same hotkey to trigger them? (I can then surely find a way to get my macro program to trigger them - annoying, but a solution...) MIC>> In the 'advanced' tab of the filter I can tell it only to MIC>> work if the message is parked, read and over 4 days old, but I MIC>> have some difficulties: MIC>> 1) what triggers the filter? Roelof> The conditions of the filter (in the first place) Roelof> Combined with the message being received, read or answered (depending Roelof> on the filter) these are bypassed by executing the filter manually. Thanks, but I meant what makes it trigger automatically, like it being midnight, or the like, not the filter conditions. Languages are fun :-) MIC>> 2) When running the filter manually, sometimes it moves the MIC>> messages but sometimes it copies them, which is a major problem. Roelof> That's because your messages are parked, being parked means that they Roelof> won't be deleted, so moving ends in copying as the message appears in Roelof> the keep-folder but 'forgets' to disappear in the source folder. Very annoying, given that I've told the filter to MOVE the PARKED messages - it's pretty explicit. Roelof> Maybe it'll help if you set the filter to unpark the message. Then it'll move everything over the age limit, not just the parked messages, as they'll no longer be parked? I need to test this later today with a dummy folder and copied messages. MIC>> (As an aside, the organisation of filters in TheBat! leaves MIC>> a LOT to be desired as well. Coming from Agent, where filter MIC>> management was simple and clear, it was something of a shock to MIC>> find that such powerful filters were so difficult to keep MIC>> organised.) Roelof> Though I've used Agent only for news, I must say that I've never Roelof> really understood Agent's filtering mechanisms. Very elegant, really - filters have a priority of 1-1000, and the closer to 1000 the number is, the higher up the list it is, and the earlier it is executed. Roelof> I suppose it's part of Roelof> TB's filtering strength that the filters are executed in the order you Roelof> place them. Same as Agent. Roelof> As for keeping them organised, I'm using a couple of dummy Roelof> filters to divide my sorting office in sections, they're filters with Roelof> an impossible condition, like in Roelof> recipient, but as names they're using long strings as this: Roelof> " Mailinglists **" Roelof> That means that while browsing through the sorting office I easily Roelof> find my filters for mailing lists, for AB filters, etc Seriously clunky work around, though. (Although I might have to adopt it :-) The other advantage of Agent's filters are that they are in a normal resizable window, not just a tiny box, and they're searchable, which is a huge plus. Don't get me wrong, the filtering in TheBat! is very powerful, it's just that like the documentation, it could do with a lot of improving in various areas. Thanks for your help. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) "You have to allow a certain amount of time in which you are doing nothing in order to have things occur to you, to let your mind think." Mortimer Adler Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Another filter question
G'day all. He's what I would have thought was a simple one, but I can't seem to get it to work. With emails to the tbudl list, I've got two filters: 1) emails addressed to the list are sorted into the "TheBat!" folder, and 2) emails addressed to the list AND sent by me are sorted into the "TheBat!" folder and PARKED. However, despite the filter for parking my posts being above the generic filter, my messages aren't parked, just filtered, as per normal. Any ideas? -- cheers, Mic (return address works) "A good many young writers make the mistake of enclosing a stamped, self-addressed envelope, big enough for the manuscript to come back in. This is too much of a temptation to the editor." Ring Lardner, "How to Write Short Stories" Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter question
On Mon 5 July 2004, 1:39:55 +1000, Roelof Otten wrote: MIC>> What I would like to do is have the program automatically MIC>> move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length MIC>> of time. (Say, five days.) > > You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by > triggering the filter manually. There might be another approach, a bit clumsy but it can be automated, using command line parameters. You could start up TB! using a command line batch file (look in the help file for details) that exported certain parked messages from the folder, and imported them into another. The main problem appears to be that although you can specify an age in days, it only exports those younger that that age. You would have to export and delete ALL parked messages from your tbudl folder to your keep folder, and then re-export and delete the younger messages from keep back to tbudl. If you start up TB! on a daily (or more frequent) basis, that should do what you need. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
note: mails lost!
Hello TBUDL, on Mon, 5. Jul 2004 at 01:50:19 +0200 I wrote: > While the message was received the connection was closed. The log says "+OK 4008 octets follow.", but only 137 bytes (octets) are received. So, I think it's the fault of TB to think the mail was received and delete it on the next contact with the server. On the other hand, POPFile always adds its headers and therefor the size of what follows will be more than the server responds. This is what POPFile stored in its .msg file: ->8 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2004 19: ->8 > and the TB-protocol-log says: ->>8 [...] > [00:35:06] C: RETR 1 > [00:35:07] S: +OK 4008 octets follow. > [00:35:15] S: X-POPFile-TimeoutPrevention: 0 > [00:35:20] S: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [00:35:20] S: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [00:35:20] S: Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2004 19:Subject: > [00:35:20] S: X-Text-Classification: english > [00:35:20] S: X-POPFile-Link: > http://127.0.0.1:7878/jump_to_message?view=popfile13559=1.msg > [00:35:20] S: . > [00:35:20] C: RETR 2 > [00:35:21] S: -ERR no response from mail server > [00:35:21] C: DELE 1 > [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) > [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) > [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) > [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) ->>8 > It seems to be a POPFile error. Is it? > This is so baad.. :( -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Full-width message list view
On Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 10:38:49 AM, Allie Martin wrote: > Are you running any shell enhancement applications that could be > interfering with the startup of TB!? Yes, but I solved the problem soon after asking the question by defining a custom view. Don't get the problem any more. -- Regards, G. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 2.11 Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another filter question
Hallo M, On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 08:12:15 +0800GMT (5-7-2004, 2:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MIC> With emails to the tbudl list, I've got two filters: MIC> 1) emails addressed to the list are sorted into the "TheBat!" folder, and That's a straightforward filter, that should work. MIC> 2) emails addressed to the list AND sent by me are sorted MIC> into the "TheBat!" folder and PARKED. That's simple too, should also work. MIC> However, despite the filter for parking my posts being MIC> above the generic filter, my messages aren't parked, just MIC> filtered, as per normal. Should work. Just to be sure I tested a filter that moves and parks over here and it worked as advertised. Could you post your filter to the list? (Just to check for mistakes.) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mails lost!
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 7:50:19 PM, dAniel wrote: dh> Hello TBUDL, dh> I've noticed the last days that I get empty messages, but thought that dh> this may be strange spam. I've received 5 or 6 empty messages in the last month; two empty messages in the last two days. Both from an address at swissonline.ch that looks like alphabet soup. I just marked them as spam and moved on. Now you have me considering there may be something else going on. -- Regards, Plan9 "Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves." -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mails lost!
On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 9:09 PM, you wrote: P> I've received 5 or 6 empty messages in the last month; two empty P> messages in the last two days. Both from an address at swissonline.ch P> that looks like alphabet soup. I just marked them as spam and moved P> on. Now you have me considering there may be something else going on. I have also receieved some empty messages, with no subject, no TO:, almost no info whatsoever. But then again, I've gotten these for months. one or two a week/month.. not often, but they don't bother me. How to you filter on nothing? except that maybe they aren't to me, I'm not even sure. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-2 (04.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mails lost!
Hello TBUDL, on Sun, 4. Jul 2004 at 21:09:13 -0400 Plan9 wrote: dh>> I've noticed the last days that I get empty messages, but thought that dh>> this may be strange spam. > I've received 5 or 6 empty messages in the last month; two empty > messages in the last two days. Both from an address at swissonline.ch > that looks like alphabet soup. I just marked them as spam and moved > on. > Now you have me considering there may be something else going on. Sorry.. ;) most of the empty mails here are probably "spam", too. but this one definitely not. You might want considering looking at the source/headers and into the protocol.ini logfile that TB can create. -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] WinAmp Advanced Controls (http://www.niversoft.com/products/nadvctrls-en.html) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Rogue
Hello Paul, Sunday, July 4, 2004, 8:51:09 PM, you wrote: Sorry if I have done this wrong. I don't mean to interrupt. PC> I have also receieved some empty messages, with no subject, no TO:, PC> almost no info whatsoever. But then again, I've gotten these for months. PC> one or two a week/month.. not often, but they don't bother me. How to PC> you filter on nothing? except that maybe they aren't to me, I'm not even PC> sure. I notice that you picture is in the rogues gallery, but you don't sign with the :Sig: , so you don't show up on the Header bar? I don't either, but because I don't have a picture yet. Just wondering if this is by design. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mails lost!
Hi Paul Cartwright - On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, at 21:51:09 [GMT -0400] (which was 6:51 PM where I live) you wrote: > On Sunday, July 4, 2004, 9:09 PM, you wrote: > I have also receieved some empty messages, with no subject, no TO:, > almost no info whatsoever. But then again, I've gotten these for months. > one or two a week/month.. not often, but they don't bother me. How to > you filter on nothing? except that maybe they aren't to me, I'm not even > sure. Known spammer technique. If the message doesn't get kicked back, they assume they reached a valid address. There are lot of things one can do server-side to preclude this but at the very least, you can filter on empty subject fields and probably the empty to field depending upon how the incoming message is constructed. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp3jhA3ddDpl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
Greg, Sunday, July 4, 2004, 8:06:09 PM, you wrote: GS> Hello Thomas, GS> Sunday, July 4, 2004, 9:28:48 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: aacu>>> Yes but I also have all the email that I delteted back again. It's an aacu>>> aumenting system not a synchronising system. TF>> Yes, it is. I think only IMAP does what you want. GS> Richard may have given good advice per GS> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], however I see you have a GS> problem per your #15 on http://www.annerykiln.co.uk/thebat.txt. GS> I am no expert on TB backup tool, but when using TB backup tool have you GS> tried *only* selecting the following: The TB! backup tool works for me, since all I need is to be able to use a different machine from time to time. I just backup all folders and run a full restore on the second machine, which at least on mine overwrites the original message base, meaning the messages that have been deleted do not reappear. It's not elegant, but it only takes a few minutes, and at least for me it works. -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
Monday, July 5, 2004, 2:37:41 AM, Kevin wrote: KA> I understand what you are saying. My only point was that (1)TB is not KA> designed to be a graphic HTML editor. It has some basic tools and that KA> is it. (2) For fancier work, an external (not just MS Office KA> components) program will be necessary. Whether one chooses to use KA> Word, Excel, Open Office, Star Office or something else isn't the KA> point. I, for one, am not going to write HTML to facilitate table KA> design in TB. Fair enough that TB! is nothing more than basic, and the ability to cut and paste externally preparted HTML is a good feature. My point was that Office is a less than ideal choice. But then if it works for you, I see no reason you shouldn't use it. Just be aware that Office is as much an HTML editor by design as TB!. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
