Re: Cannot send messages

2004-07-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Michael,

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:44:37 -0700GMT (20-7-2004, 5:44 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MLW> I write a message in any of my accounts.  I press end, and it just
MLW> sits there.  I close the message and save it, and go to the outbox,
MLW> and choose send.  Box=nothing to send.  I close the bat, open it
MLW> again, open the message again and send it and it goes.

Does this happen every time you write a message? Over here I'm using
2.12 on the latest XP pro and it never happens to me. Are on IMAP or
POP, I'm using the latter.

MLW> --  
MLW> Michael L. Wilson, MBA :usflag: 

Your cut mark isn't working properly..

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Re: trash folder columns

2004-07-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo rich,

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:06:54 -0400GMT (20-7-2004, 6:06 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RG> Can't I sort the Trash folder by time deleted?

Don't sort it, then the messages are in the order they got in it.



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Is it Possible to Change Ticker Colors

2004-07-19 Thread Mike Crain
Is it Possible to Mail Ticker background and foreground colors ?  



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Re: TB 2.12: IMAP: (#0002383) INBOX can be set as pre-defined Outbox, Sent and Trash too

2004-07-19 Thread Alexander A. Gomanyuk
Hello 9Val,

15.07.2004, U wrote:
AAG>> Here You are
AAG>> IMAP: (#0002383) INBOX can be set as pre-defined Outbox, Sent and Trash too
> Incorrect citation, original is:

Sorry! You are right!

AAG>> BTW, IMAP account properties Mail management - ROOT folder still
AAG>> doesn't work :(((
> WIP :)

:)
May be You know, how to make The Bat shows all created IMAP folders on
the level of Inbox (outbox, Sent Trash) but not as SUBfolders of Inbox ?
(Courier Mail Server)

Outlook Express CAN do that against the SAME Mail Server, but The Bat
:((



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Cannot send messages

2004-07-19 Thread Michael L. Wilson
Greetings All,

I write a message in any of my accounts.  I press end, and it just
sits there.  I close the message and save it, and go to the outbox,
and choose send.  Box=nothing to send.  I close the bat, open it
again, open the message again and send it and it goes.

This is not right.  This did not happen in the betas.  please fix.

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Ecclesiastic Philosopher
Teacher
Critic


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Does not send email

2004-07-19 Thread Michael L. Wilson
Greetings All,

I write a message in any of my accounts.  I press end, and it just
sits there.  I close the message and save it, and go to the outbox,
and choose send.  Box=nothing to send.  I close the bat, open it
again, open the message again and send it and it goes.

This is not right.  This did not happen in the betas.  please fix.

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Ecclesiastic Philosopher
Teacher
Critic


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Re: Slow startup for TB! 2.12?

2004-07-19 Thread Robin Anson
On Tue 20 July 2004, 5:15:28 +1000, 9val wrote:
RA>> Has anyone else experienced either of these problems?
> It  can be caused by VFs with complex filters or/and operating on huge
> folders.  Try to check 'Store state between sessions' in VF properties
> it should help.

I have one VF that checks for flagged messages in a single account. That
account has 4,300 messages, and the largest folder has 680 messages.

I have 'Store state between sessions' selected, and I think that has made
a difference. I don't seem to have a delay of more than 40 secs in the
updating of the message counters.

This delay is not actually before the counters update, it occurs after
a small number (usually one to three) of the message counters show a
value. After the delay the counters update sequentially through the
accounts at a rapid pace.

I also continue to experience message lists that are blank when the
folder is selected.It only occurs within a short period of time after TB!
has been started (say the first 5 mins) but it has happened that a folder
will display the contents initially, but when I move away from it and
back again, the message list becomes blank.

This is not a case of viewing a subset of messages - I have tried going
to the View menu and selecting different options under Display to try to
refresh the display, but that has no effect. The only solution I have
found is simply waiting until the messages appear in the list again. This
may take anywhere from 10 secs to a couple of minutes.

I have tried compressing and purging all my folders, but that has not
resolved the problem.

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Re: User: Cut mark

2004-07-19 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:33:17 +0200, Peter Meyns wrote:

>> Nevertheless your .sig is TOO LONG.
>>> [Leif's TOO LONG .sig]
>> That's 8 (EIGHT) lines TOO MANY.

> I miss a smiley in your post.

It's there though. Press Ctrl-Shift-K (RFC-822 Headers)
and you will see it.

> Good thing we're not on the usenet! :grin:

There should be a law against the size of .sigs.


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Re: IMAP & SpamPal.

2004-07-19 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
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| CMG> Alternatively, you could connect to your IMAP server with telnet
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| CMG> when it times out.
| How would I go about doing this? Apologies, I heard Telnet mentioned all
| the time, but never really got around to working out what it was used
| for and how to use it.
Google for IMAP4 session example. If you need more help, tell us what
you don't understand.
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Re[2]: POPFile POP3 port setting

2004-07-19 Thread admin
> On Mon 19 July 2004, 23:10:21 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Well, how about doing this again - try it without NAV and with Popfile
>>> and TB! talking on port 110 (note that this changes your userid and/or
>>> password, so note the old values before setting new ones). If that works
>>> fine, then change the TB!/Popfile port, reset the userid and password and
>>> re-enable NAV and see if that works.

It would be so easy if only The Bat bods would implement the requested
feature asked for by so many - global tick box changing of account
properties.

To do what you suggest above mean changing 40 email accounts!

> That's what I meant - you probably already knew that (but I had fun (?)
> working it out again).

I'll have to wait until I have the wrist and finger energy and
perseverance and time to try it out.

-- 
Marten Gallagher
Annery Kiln Web Design
www.annerykiln.co.uk
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TB! 2.12 shows grey screen after startup

2004-07-19 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
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I've installed TB! 2.12 on an NT4/SP6a machine. After startup, I can
see the three panes being created (accounts/folders, message list,
message), but immediately afterwards I'm left with one big grey pane
showing "No message loaded". How can I overcome this?
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Re: PGP 8.1 & Tbat

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 3:02 PM my time, Darrin wrote:
DR> Hello,
DR> I have PGP on my pc. Cant seem to get it to sign and encrypt messages
DR> under the privacy options within tbat. It keeps stating that my
DR> openpgp keys are either absent/revoked etc... How do I get pgp 8.1 to
DR> work with TB?
DR> Thanks again



Ok, I just figured it out. Having a few problems still, but I think
Ill have it in a few minutes here.
Thanks

-- 
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PGP 8.1 & Tbat

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello,
I have PGP on my pc. Cant seem to get it to sign and encrypt messages
under the privacy options within tbat. It keeps stating that my
openpgp keys are either absent/revoked etc... How do I get pgp 8.1 to
work with TB?
Thanks again

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Re: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Monday, July 19, 2004, 5:54 PM, you wrote:

DR> That was the problem. I didnt have it set to kludges, I was unclear as
DR> to what that was. Now I got it. It should work now.

DR> Now I will just sit here.I cant believe Im going to say this,
DR> but...and wait for spam. ;)

you could... do something ELSE and let TB take care of the spam :)
TB filters are very powerful, I use them for almost everything! I send
all list mails to separate folders using filters. That way, when I rea
the mail using the mail ticker, I sort them by folder, so they are all
together, for each list. In the message ticker you can add columns, like
FOLDERS, so you can show where the emails are going, and sort them by
folders ( or received, or... whatever). But the message ticker is a
whole nother topic:)


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Re[2]: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 2:50 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC> yes, that's it!
PC> then give it a folder to send it to , like SPAM..


That was the problem. I didnt have it set to kludges, I was unclear as
to what that was. Now I got it. It should work now.

Now I will just sit here.I cant believe Im going to say this,
but...and wait for spam. ;)

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Re[2]: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 2:49 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC> when you select a filter, you can specify fields to search on. These
PC> include receiptient, sender, subject, text and kludges. Kludges are the
PC> headers. When you read an email, if you hit CONTROL-SHIFT-K you will see
PC> the full headers ( kludges). Hit CTRL-SHFT-K again and they will
PC> disappear:)


Thanks that was helpful

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Re: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Monday, July 19, 2004, 5:26 PM, you wrote:

DR> Hi,
DR> So under strings I place ( X-Text-Classification: spam) and under
DR> location I select (kludges)? Is that correct?

yes, that's it!
then give it a folder to send it to , like SPAM..




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Re: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Monday, July 19, 2004, 5:23 PM, you wrote:

DR> Hi,
DR> On 7/19/2004 1:45 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC>> in the kludges


DR> what exactly does "kludges" mean?

when you select a filter, you can specify fields to search on. These
include receiptient, sender, subject, text and kludges. Kludges are the
headers. When you read an email, if you hit CONTROL-SHIFT-K you will see
the full headers ( kludges). Hit CTRL-SHFT-K again and they will
disappear:)



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Re[2]: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 2:25 PM my time, Marck wrote:
MDP> It's TB speak for message headers.


ahhh. Ok, thanks.

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Re: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Darrin,

@19-Jul-2004, 14:23 -0700 (19-Jul 22:23 UK time) Darrin Rich said to
Paul:

PC>> in the kludges

> what exactly does "kludges" mean?

It's TB speak for message headers.

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Re[2]: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi,
So under strings I place ( X-Text-Classification: spam) and under
location I select (kludges)? Is that correct?




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Re[2]: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 1:45 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC> in the kludges


what exactly does "kludges" mean?

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Re: TB and Palm

2004-07-19 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello WilWilWil,

Monday, July 19, 2004, 3:09:49 PM, you wrote:
WilWilWil> Is it possible to sync TB Task Scheduler with palm OS 5 ?

No.. You can sync your inbox using MAPI, but not the scheduler.



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TB and Palm

2004-07-19 Thread WilWilWil
Is it possible to sync TB Task Scheduler with palm OS 5 ?

Thanks

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Re: K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Monday, July 19, 2004, 4:41 PM, you wrote:

DR> Hello,
DR> Could someone post a screen shot or tell me what exactly to do for
DR> setting up a filter for my mail that is marked as spam in k9 to go to
DR> a folder I labeled as spam? I must have done something wrong, because
DR> it doesn't seem to be filtering correctly.
DR> I appreciate it, thanks.

setup a filter looking for this string:
X-Text-Classification: spam

in the kludges

I tell it to put the email in the trash.



setup K9 to add the following header line to the email:
X-Text-Classification: spam ( under configuration)



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K9 Filtering Help

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello,
Could someone post a screen shot or tell me what exactly to do for
setting up a filter for my mail that is marked as spam in k9 to go to
a folder I labeled as spam? I must have done something wrong, because
it doesn't seem to be filtering correctly.
I appreciate it, thanks.

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Re: Slow startup for TB! 2.12?

2004-07-19 Thread 9Val
Hello Robin, 

RA> Has anyone else experienced either of these problems?
It  can be caused by VFs with complex filters or/and operating on huge
folders.  Try to check 'Store state between sessions' in VF properties
it should help.

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Re[2]: New Folder Option Would Be Useful

2004-07-19 Thread 9Val
Hello Chris, 

CW> About 30 mins ago, I created a few virtual folders and then put them
CW> within a folder to keep it tidy, but the parent folder count of the
CW> virtual folders doesn't actually do anything when the virtual folders
CW> under it change. :-(
Sure, because:
1) VF can contain messages from other folders/account
2) Message from folder/account will duplicate count

CW> This is a shame, and would be a nice feature IMHO! :D
CW> Therefore, it get my vote! :-)
OK, it will be done

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Re: Latinized and Cyrillized Japanese WAS--Re: About your Hoya

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Monday, July 19, 2004, 3:07 AM, you wrote:

EM> Does not seem that Unicode support has high priority. All kinds of smilies,
EM> mail chats (does anyone use it?) and other bells and whistles seems have
EM> much higher priority.

smilies I use and enjoy, chat I never use, and I don't know anyone who
talks about using it. I just noticed in my virtual folders tab, I have a
CHATS folder, that says ZERO.
but, all we can do is wait til they do get Unicode support, it sure
would be nice.


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Re: Automatic "Remove Duplicates"

2004-07-19 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 1:40:43 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

R> Actually duplicate messages are a symptom of a mail provider who's
R> configuration isn't really up to it, so I'd change mail providers
R> in stead of fixing it in house with an additional program.

I have two mailing lists where duplicate messages often show up. They
are this one and TBBETA.

-- 
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Re: K9 Filter question

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Monday, July 19, 2004, 2:02 PM, you wrote:


PM> I have just set it up on a new machine, and after a week, there are no
PM> more false positives, but still a few false negatives. It seems to keep
PM> learning pretty well. :-
mine is at 97.95% accuracy, not the greatest, but it catched 30 and lets
3 in, that isn't too bad. Then I created a SPAM filter, that takes all
the mail my other filters don't catch, and that gets ALL the rest! it
also gets too many good emails, but I'm working on it:)

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Re: Automatic "Remove Duplicates"

2004-07-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jan,

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:08:19 -0400GMT (19-7-2004, 20:08 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BC>>> Is there a way to automatically execute the "Remove Duplicates"
BC>>> function after each receive session?

RO>> Not without a third party tool like power pro

JR>   how would you do it with Power Pro?

I wouldn't, since I don't get any duplicate messages and don't use
Power Pro, but I've been led to believe that Power Pro enables you to
automate a series of actions by clicking on a button or even to
schedule such a series when certain programs are running.

So you'd record a macro (or whatever they're called) that checks mail
and remove dupes and use that to collect your mail in stead of TB's
own collection schedule. Let actual Power Pro users comment on the
feasibility of this suggestion.

Actually duplicate messages are a symptom of a mail provider who's
configuration isn't really up to it, so I'd change mail providers in
stead of fixing it in house with an additional program.

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Re: Fwd: the Bat! future evolution

2004-07-19 Thread Ludovic LE MOAL
Hi Claude,

On Monday, July 19, 2004 at 5:56:55 PM, Claude Renaud wrote:

> Recently, I received an announcement from PocoSystems, telling that
> they just launched a new product (Barca) which is a mixture of their
> mail client PocoMail and a Personal Information Manager.
> If I told you that, it is to know if you would like to see The Bat
> turns into a kind of PIM or not and if Ritlabs have such plans in their
> projects  for the 3.0 or 4.0 version of the software ?

I don't know what is a Personal Information Manager and what you're
awaiting from this kind of stuff but The Bat! have an adress book
which is very useful and task manager which is at least as useful as
the adress book.

Have you an URL where we can see the Barca's feature ?
-- 
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Re: Fwd: the Bat! future evolution

2004-07-19 Thread Zonnet

ON Monday, July 19, 2004, 5:56:55 PM, you wrote:
CR>  If I told you that, it is to know if you would like to see The Bat
CR> turns into a kind of PIM or not and if Ritlabs have such plans in their
CR> projects  for the 3.0 or 4.0 version of the software ?

Hi Claude,

This is a difficult discussion. From what I have been reading here in this
list there are a lot of e-mail "purist" on, but here is what I think.

I love integration, but I want it to be between different applications
instead of one all dancing and singing application. I want choice. I want
to decide what is best for my e-mail and what is best for handling my
information.

I currently use ACT! (notice it also has an exclamation mark!) as my
contact manager. It is great for handling all my contacts but has some
quirks I would like to see fixed. It has nice integration with a fax and
word processors but has an absolute terrible e-mail integration.
It will somewhat work with OE or us its own very very very (repeat at least
25 times) basic e-mail program.

Obviously I like TB! and would think it perfect if it would work with ACT!
but someone else might have different PIM needs and prefers an other
program.

The answer is standard interface programming. We know how to do it but it
has such a terrible overhead :(
Still, I think it is the only way go or alternatively we all become
exclusive M$ users.

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Re[2]: K9 Filter question

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello Peter,

Monday, July 19, 2004, 11:02:54 AM, you wrote:

PM> It seems to keep
PM> learning pretty well.

I had a pretty good experience with it myself along time ago. Just
installed it again and am trying it out myself to see.

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Re: Automatic "Remove Duplicates"

2004-07-19 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi jan,

On Monday, July 19, 2004 14:08 your local time, which was 19:08 my local
time, jan rifkinson [JR] wrote;

BC>>> Is there a way to automatically execute the "Remove Duplicates"
BC>>> function after each receive session?

RO>> Not without a third party tool like power pro

JR>   how would you do it with Power Pro?

Good question, I would also like to know! :-)
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Re[2]: Automatic "Remove Duplicates"

2004-07-19 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
regards to Automatic "Remove Duplicates" :

BC>> Is there a way to automatically execute the "Remove Duplicates"
BC>> function after each receive session?

RO> Not without a third party tool like power pro

  how would you do it with Power Pro?

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Re: K9 Filter question

2004-07-19 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Darrin,

on Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:38:46 -0700GMT, you wrote:

DR> Is [K9] still a good choice for a filter for TB?. Havent used it
DR> for awhile.

I have just set it up on a new machine, and after a week, there are no
more false positives, but still a few false negatives. It seems to keep
learning pretty well. :-)

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Re: Automatic "Remove Duplicates"

2004-07-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Brian,

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:42:20 -0400GMT (19-7-2004, 19:42 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BC> Is there a way to automatically execute the "Remove Duplicates"
BC> function after each receive session?

Not without a third party tool like power pro

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Re: ntdll.dll error always followed by "Grid Index Out of Range"

2004-07-19 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 19-Jul-04 12:24pm -0400, Maggie wrote:

> I have a brand new XP Pro installation and I cannot find this
> myroot.* file to send. Sorry!

No you don't, it's created by the dir command I gave.

Every XP Pro installations comes with CMD.EXE - that's the console.
If you're not sure how to start it click Start then click on Run...
(lower right), then type CMD and hit enter.

Change to the root by typing:

cd \

Finally, enter this directory command:

dir /ah-d /tc /o-d > myroot.txt

That simple gives a directory of hidden files by reverse creation date
order and redirects it to a file I called myroot.txt.  Either send
that file or paste its contents to in an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

BTW, you can look at the file (so you can delete any personal
filenames you may have saved to the root) by something like:

notepad myroot.txt

When you're done sending, you can delete that file with:

del myroot.txt

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Automatic "Remove Duplicates"

2004-07-19 Thread Brian Curtis
Hello,

Is there a way to automatically execute the "Remove Duplicates"
function after each receive session?

Thanks.

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Re[2]: ntdll.dll error always followed by "Grid Index Out of Range"

2004-07-19 Thread Maggie
Hello Bill,

I have a brand new XP Pro installation and I cannot find this
myroot.* file to send. Sorry!

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Re: Newbie ......again

2004-07-19 Thread Dan Grunberg
Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:38:38 -0700 (11:38 PM EDT here) Darrin Rich wrote:

> Hello Dan,

> Sunday, July 18, 2004, 8:12:10 PM, you wrote

>>  

> It will help keep me from asking dumb questions

There are no dumb questions.




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Re: Fwd: the Bat! future evolution

2004-07-19 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Claude,

Monday, July 19, 2004, 10:56:55 AM, you wrote:

> If I told you that, it is to know if you would like to see The Bat
> turns into a kind of PIM or not and if Ritlabs have such plans in
> their projects for the 3.0 or 4.0 version of the software ?

I hope not -- if I wanted Outlook, I would just use Outlook!

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Re: Fwd: the Bat! future evolution

2004-07-19 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Claude,

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:56:55 +0200GMT (19-7-2004, 17:56 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CR>  If I told you that, it is to know if you would like to see The Bat
CR> turns into a kind of PIM or not and if Ritlabs have such plans in their
CR> projects  for the 3.0 or 4.0 version of the software ?

Actually, I couldn't care. I'm not interested in a PIM

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Re[2]: Fwd: the Bat! future evolution

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello WilWilWil,

Monday, July 19, 2004, 9:14:59 AM, you wrote:

W> What is a Personal Information Manager ?

http://email.about.com/od/windowsemailclients/gr/barca.htm shows what
it is and reviews it.

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Does a panda antivirus plug-in exist ?

2004-07-19 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi All,

  
I just would like to know if there is a plug-in for
the Panda software antivirus, and if yes where can I obtain it ?


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Re: Fwd: the Bat! future evolution

2004-07-19 Thread WilWilWil
==Original message text===
From: Claude Renaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, July 19, 2004, 5:56:55 PM
Subject: Fwd: the Bat! future evolution
CR> Hi all,

  
CR> I love computers.
CR> I spend hours and hours on my laptop every day.
CR> Most of my time is dedicated to e-mail.
CR> I've been using The bat! since the 1.62 version.
CR> I always found this program very great.
CR> But it did not prevent me from seeing the other mailers and try some of
CR> them.
CR> So, even if I have been using the bat! since months, a program I
CR> purchased from a french dealer, I decided to try another mailer they
CR> decided to promote after they gave up
CR> the bat! : its name, Pocomail.
CR> Even if they said that it was very powerful I did not consider it as powerful as
CR> the bat! was (notably from my personal point of view, in fact
CR> PocoMail does not
CR> seem to be very accessible for the blind man I am).
CR> I have been subscribed to PocoSystems' newsletter (the maker of
CR> pocomail) since the time I decided to test it.
CR> Recently, I received an announcement from PocoSystems, telling that
CR> they just launched a new product (Barca) which is a mixture of their
CR> mail client PocoMail and a Personal Information Manager.
CR>  If I told you that, it is to know if you would like to see The Bat
CR> turns into a kind of PIM or not and if Ritlabs have such plans in their
CR> projects  for the 3.0 or 4.0 version of the software ?



===End of original message text===
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Re: Sorting Office Filters

2004-07-19 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Simon,
Monday, July 19, 2004, 8:54:21 AM, you wrote:

SE> A couple of oddities:

SE> I subscribe to three mailing lists, of which this is one. I have
SE> filters to send messages from each list to its own folder.

SE> Two of these filters look for an expression in "kludges", the other
SE> looks for a simple string in "subject". When I use the mouse to move
SE> between the filters, the "location" field seems to stay set to the
SE> first filter rule. eg. if I start by looking at a filter where
SE> location is "kludges" then "kludges" is dispayed even if "subject" has
SE> been set.

SE> And the filters which look for an expression in "kludges" works, but
SE> the fikter which looks for a simple string in "subject" doesn't.

Not confirmed in released Version 2.12 on Windows 98 SE.

  




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Fwd: the Bat! future evolution

2004-07-19 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi all,

  
I love computers.
I spend hours and hours on my laptop every day.
Most of my time is dedicated to e-mail.
I've been using The bat! since the 1.62 version.
I always found this program very great.
But it did not prevent me from seeing the other mailers and try some of
them.
So, even if I have been using the bat! since months, a program I
purchased from a french dealer, I decided to try another mailer they
decided to promote after they gave up
the bat! : its name, Pocomail.
Even if they said that it was very powerful I did not consider it as powerful as
the bat! was (notably from my personal point of view, in fact
PocoMail does not
seem to be very accessible for the blind man I am).
I have been subscribed to PocoSystems' newsletter (the maker of
pocomail) since the time I decided to test it.
Recently, I received an announcement from PocoSystems, telling that
they just launched a new product (Barca) which is a mixture of their
mail client PocoMail and a Personal Information Manager.
 If I told you that, it is to know if you would like to see The Bat
turns into a kind of PIM or not and if Ritlabs have such plans in their
projects  for the 3.0 or 4.0 version of the software ?


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Re: filter action not working

2004-07-19 Thread Allie Martin
Snet, [S] wrote:

> OK, thanks. will test this on my machine. Nevertheless it seems to
> me TB! should match on color. Do you think this qualifies as buglet
> & should be reported as such?

I would classify it as a full bug.

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Re: Sorting Office Filters

2004-07-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Simon,

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:54:21 +0100 GMT (19/07/2004, 20:54 +0700 GMT),
Simon Elliott wrote:

SE> Two of these filters look for an expression in "kludges", the other
SE> looks for a simple string in "subject". When I use the mouse to move
SE> between the filters, the "location" field seems to stay set to the
SE> first filter rule. eg. if I start by looking at a filter where
SE> location is "kludges" then "kludges" is dispayed even if "subject" has
SE> been set.

Sorry, I cannot confirm this with the latest release version.

SE> Any thoughts?

Time for an update?

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K9 Filter question

2004-07-19 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello,
Is it still a good choice for a filter for TB?. Havent used it for awhile.

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Sorting Office Filters

2004-07-19 Thread Simon Elliott
A couple of oddities:

I subscribe to three mailing lists, of which this is one. I have
filters to send messages from each list to its own folder.

Two of these filters look for an expression in "kludges", the other
looks for a simple string in "subject". When I use the mouse to move
between the filters, the "location" field seems to stay set to the
first filter rule. eg. if I start by looking at a filter where
location is "kludges" then "kludges" is dispayed even if "subject" has
been set.

And the filters which look for an expression in "kludges" works, but
the fikter which looks for a simple string in "subject" doesn't.

Any thoughts?

  

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Re: DomainKeys

2004-07-19 Thread Dave Crocker
Rich,

rg> I wonder how Yahoo!'s new policy (is it even in place or just an
rg> idea?) will affect me.

DomainKeys is a proposed Internet standard, rather than a Yahoo
"policy". They have been working with others in industry to develop the
specification and will be pursuing it in the IETF to make it a
standardize it.  (If this paragraph sounds like marketing, it's because
I've been one of the ones participating in their effort, but I have no
business relationship with them.)


rg> Part of what this says is that there will be header checking that will
rg> refuse emails with headers the system doesn't like.

rg> I send with a "From" line that may be any one of a number of domains
rg> BUT in reality all my mail is SMTP served by earthlink.

The SPF and Sender-ID mechanisms are likely to cause you far more
problems than DomainKeys will.  The first two require registering your
transit MTAs with your domain.

DomainKeys is in the spirit of PGP and S/Mime, but tuned for the problem
of transit authentication, rather than long-term storage and privacy.
All of them have ways to digitally sign the message.

Given that nothing has yet reduced the amount of global spam, and given
that so much spam is spoofed and/or comes through compromised systems,
it's good that there are multiple efforts.

One of them might work.

d/

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Re: POPFile POP3 port setting

2004-07-19 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon 19 July 2004, 23:10:21 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Well, how about doing this again - try it without NAV and with Popfile
>> and TB! talking on port 110 (note that this changes your userid and/or
>> password, so note the old values before setting new ones). If that works
>> fine, then change the TB!/Popfile port, reset the userid and password and
>> re-enable NAV and see if that works.
> 
> You mean it changes the proxying part of the userid?
> 
> How does it change the password?
> 
> Or do you mean the userid and password of something other than the
> POP3 email accounts themselves?

You are right, it doesn't change the password. What it does is change the
POP server and the userid. If your POP server was mail.domain.com and
your userid on that server was jsmith

With TB! and Popfile:
   the POP server becomes 127.0.0.1
   and the userid becomes mail.domain.com:jsmith

With NAV and TB! (as I recall):
   the POP server becomes pop3.norton.antivirus
   and the userid becomes jsmith/mail.domain.com

Then with all three:
   the POP server becomes 127.0.0.1
   and the userid becomes pop3.norton.antivirus:jsmith/mail.domain.com

That's what I meant - you probably already knew that (but I had fun (?)
working it out again).

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Re[2]: filter action not working

2004-07-19 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Allie posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
in response to my question re: filter action not working :

>> I think this also applies to flagging & moving so I'm of the
>> opinion that it's a problem of 2nd level actions all around.

AM> To me, the problem is with the matching. If you try similar second
AM> level filtering but instead use a string match rather than a colour
AM> group match, you'll see that the actions are carried out just fine
AM> whether it be moving flagging, deleting or a combination of those.

  OK, thanks. will test this on my machine. Nevertheless it seems
  to me TB! should match on color. Do you think this qualifies as
  buglet & should be reported as such?

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Re[2]: POPFile POP3 port setting

2004-07-19 Thread admin
> On Mon 19 July 2004, 19:56:38 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Now that rings a bell! I have NAV so I guess for some reason I was
>> guided to give POPFile 123.
>> 
>> I've found the instructiosn that led me to 123:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you use an email scanning proxy that has changed your email setting
>> like some versions of Norton Antivirus, then POPFile won't work straight
>> off the bat: the email proxy will grab them instead. You need to configure
>> POPFile to talk to the email scanner. (If your virus scanner didn't change
>> your email POP3 server setting then there is no need to follow these instructions).
>> 
>> (So, basically, emails get downloaded by the scanner, passed to POPFile,
>> and then - finally - passed to your email program.)
>> 
>> Now, since different brands of email scanners work differently, we'll
>> work like this:
>> 
>>1. Disable the email scanner and return your settings to normal.
>>2. Tell POPFile to listen for connections on a different port.
>>3. Tell your email program to connect to POPFile on a different port.
>>4. Re-enable your email scanner with the new settings.

> Well, how about doing this again - try it without NAV and with Popfile
> and TB! talking on port 110 (note that this changes your userid and/or
> password, so note the old values before setting new ones). If that works
> fine, then change the TB!/Popfile port, reset the userid and password and
> re-enable NAV and see if that works.

You mean it changes the proxying part of the userid?

How does it change the password?

Or do you mean the userid and password of something other than the
POP3 email accounts themselves?

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Re: filter action not working

2004-07-19 Thread Allie Martin
Snet, [S] wrote:

> Ah! Thank you. Finally someone agrees with me. However, I think this
> also applies to flagging & moving so I'm of the opinion that it's a
> problem of 2nd level actions all around.

To me, the problem is with the matching. If you try similar second
level filtering but instead use a string match rather than a colour
group match, you'll see that the actions are carried out just fine
whether it be moving flagging, deleting or a combination of those.

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Re[2]: filter action not working

2004-07-19 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Allie posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
regards to filter action not working :

AM>  So it would seem to be that there's a problem with filters being
AM> applied when the automatically when the matching criterion is based on
AM> colour group. 

  Ah! Thank you. Finally someone agrees with me. However, I think
  this also applies to flagging & moving so I'm of the opinion
  that it's a problem of 2nd level actions all around.

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Re: POPFile POP3 port setting

2004-07-19 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon 19 July 2004, 19:56:38 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Now that rings a bell! I have NAV so I guess for some reason I was
> guided to give POPFile 123.
> 
> I've found the instructiosn that led me to 123:
> 
> 
> 
> If you use an email scanning proxy that has changed your email setting
> like some versions of Norton Antivirus, then POPFile won't work straight
> off the bat: the email proxy will grab them instead. You need to configure
> POPFile to talk to the email scanner. (If your virus scanner didn't change
> your email POP3 server setting then there is no need to follow these instructions).
> 
> (So, basically, emails get downloaded by the scanner, passed to POPFile,
> and then - finally - passed to your email program.)
> 
> Now, since different brands of email scanners work differently, we'll
> work like this:
> 
>1. Disable the email scanner and return your settings to normal.
>2. Tell POPFile to listen for connections on a different port.
>3. Tell your email program to connect to POPFile on a different port.
>4. Re-enable your email scanner with the new settings.

Well, how about doing this again - try it without NAV and with Popfile
and TB! talking on port 110 (note that this changes your userid and/or
password, so note the old values before setting new ones). If that works
fine, then change the TB!/Popfile port, reset the userid and password and
re-enable NAV and see if that works.

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Re: Could not decrypt messages encyrpted to me with gpg-1.2.1

2004-07-19 Thread Allie Martin
George M. Menegakis, [GMM] wrote:

> Monday, July 19, 2004, 2:30:18 PM, Allie Martin wrote:
>> I'm using PGP v8.0.2 and see the padlock associated with your message
>> containing encrypted text. Upon hitting the padlock a popup appears that the
>> text is encrypted using 2 unknown keys. So I do get a response here.

> Sure, but I am not using gpg :)

But you sent a block of encrypted text. Encrypted using GnuPG v1.2.1.

> This is a known issue,
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003186 for more
> information. I should be more careful.

Ok. A PGP/MIME issue then.

> However there is a workaround... Export message as unix mailbox, open it with
> an editor and decrypt with pgp.

Which is sort of what happened when you sent the block of encrypted
text in your message to the list. I was able to bypass the PGP/MIME
related problem.

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Re: Threading: store outgoing msgs in folder sent from?

2004-07-19 Thread Cory
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:40:33 +0100, "Mike email (The Bat!)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Perhaps you could BCC them to yourself?

Yes, I'm using that type of distributing too as a means of informing
co-workers (who in turn have their own filters set).

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Re: Could not decrypt messages encyrpted to me with gpg-1.2.1

2004-07-19 Thread Allie Martin
George M. Menegakis, [GMM] wrote:

> Some colleague using ximian evolution & gpg tried encrypted a
> message for me but I cannot decrypt. I keep pressing the button (see
> the attached image) but nothing happens.

> I'm using PGP freeware 8.1

I'm using PGP v8.0.2 and see the padlock associated with your message
containing encrypted text. Upon hitting the padlock a popup appears
that the text is encrypted using 2 unknown keys. So I do get a
response here.

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Could not decrypt messages encyrpted to me with gpg-1.2.1

2004-07-19 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello,

Some colleague using ximian evolution & gpg tried encrypted a message for me
but I cannot decrypt. I keep pressing the button (see the attached image) but
nothing happens.

I'm using PGP freeware 8.1

I have me colleague to sent the email to another address I have and I picked
the mail using pine. All work as it should. I saved the mail using name
menes.txt and that's what I get...


menes(ucnetnom):cat menes.txt
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 19 13:49:03 2004
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from brain.otenet.gr (brain.otenet.gr [195.170.0.25])
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Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:49:12 +0300
Subject:
From: konic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: multipart/encrypted; protocol="application/pgp-encrypted"; 
boundary="=-il8gq7y+NJ/j/JDrA13a"
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-1)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:59:07 +0300
X-NOC_UOC-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information
X-NOC_UOC-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-NOC_UOC-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9,
required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90)
X-MailScanner-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Length: 2351
X-IMAPbase: 1090234157 1
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
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Re: filter action not working

2004-07-19 Thread Allie Martin
Stuart Cuddy, [SC] wrote:

> It seems to be a problem with the Continue Processing Other Filters.
> If you Right click and pick re-filter the second filter works.

Hmmm. Upon checking, it would seem we are both right.

I ran the test again and manually ran test filter 2 on the message
after being filtered by test filter 1. It ran, but after a long pause.

I changed test filter 2's matching criteria to a string match, rather
than a colour group match. Both filters worked one after the other on
the next test.

So it would seem to be that there's a problem with filters being
applied when the automatically when the matching criterion is based on
colour group.

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Re[2]: POPFile POP3 port setting

2004-07-19 Thread admin
> On Mon 19 July 2004, 6:25:14 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Is there a reason (a)
>>> for not choosing 110, and (b) for choosing 123?

>> I have checked using the netstat command and there are no
>> listening ports numbered 110.
>> 
>> So maybe I should change it back to 110 do you think? And then try
>> 2.12.00 again?

> Well, I am using 110 successfully. When I had an anti-virus proxy (Norton
> AntiVirus) I had to change the Popfile port, because NAV wanted 110, so I
> think I used 1100 for TB! and Popfile to communicate on, and 110 for
> Popfile and NAV. Now that I don't have NAV, I just use 110.

> I would give it a go, it might work better.

Now that rings a bell! I have NAV so I guess for some reason I was
guided to give POPFile 123.

I've found the instructiosn that led me to 123:



If you use an email scanning proxy that has changed your email setting
like some versions of Norton Antivirus, then POPFile won't work straight
off the bat: the email proxy will grab them instead. You need to configure
POPFile to talk to the email scanner. (If your virus scanner didn't change
your email POP3 server setting then there is no need to follow these instructions).

(So, basically, emails get downloaded by the scanner, passed to POPFile,
and then - finally - passed to your email program.)

Now, since different brands of email scanners work differently, we'll
work like this:

   1. Disable the email scanner and return your settings to normal.
   2. Tell POPFile to listen for connections on a different port.
   3. Tell your email program to connect to POPFile on a different port.
   4. Re-enable your email scanner with the new settings.

Disabling your e-mail scanner

Follow your manufacturer's instructions for this.
Change POPFile's port

Head to the Web Interface's Configuration tab, and change your POP3
Listen Port to any similar number - we recommend 123. Click Apply.





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Re: Latinized and Cyrillized Japanese

2004-07-19 Thread Ludovic LE MOAL
Hi,

On Monday, July 19, 2004 at 9:07:56 AM, Edvinas MatiuĊĦaitis wrote:

[Unicode]

PC>> is it in the wish list?? is it a priority?? with an international group,
PC>> you would think that would be way up the ladder of priorities..

> Really hard to tell.

> Ritlabs are promising Unicode support for years. But it is still not here,
> however all kinds of useless features are introduced with every release.
> Does not seem that Unicode support has high priority.

I think that Ritlabs team developpement are aware that Unicode is
really important. But I guess it must be more important to implement
it in The Bat! than we think and that's the reason why they do not
incorpore it.

> --
> Edvinas

I guess your sig delimiter is wrong... It must be tiret-tiret and a
space (the space is important).
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Re: Latinized and Cyrillized Japanese WAS--Re: About your Hoya

2004-07-19 Thread Edvinas MatiuĊĦaitis
Hello Paul,

On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 20:40, you wrote:


PC> is it in the wish list?? is it a priority?? with an international group,
PC> you would think that would be way up the ladder of priorities..

Really hard to tell.

Ritlabs are promising Unicode support for years. But it is still not here,
however all kinds of useless features are introduced with every release.
Does not seem that Unicode support has high priority. All kinds of smilies,
mail chats (does anyone use it?) and other bells and whistles seems have
much higher priority.

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