Re: Different flags for messages
Hello Allie, TA I would also like to filter out these messages using Virtual folders. I believe that can be done, but as I see no use for VF myself, I can't speak from experience. snipped This works very nicely and with other colour groups one could achieve the same effect with 'important' and 'to do' etc. I can confirm it can be done and works very nicely. I currently use colour groups and VFs for Must Reply, Important, For Action, Reference, Follow Up and (for sent messages) Waiting Response. I only wish messages could be assigned to more that 1 colour group. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: If Exists Macro?
On Friday, August 13, 2004, 1:18:53 AM, you wrote: Gaijin I hope, the German to English translation is better as the English to Gaijin German translation ;-) My favourite line: A nose in the macro %GMP_StrLeft was repaired. Yes, this line is very nice ;-) -- Best regards, Gaijin (http://www.gaijin.at/) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.
Il 12/08/2004 alle 19.58, Chris Weaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi all, After a few problems with the Bayesit plug-in, I went over to SpamPal as my spam filter. The reason why I left Bayesit in the first place, was that as I was testing betas etc, Bayesit would no longer catch any mail!? It was like it was losing it's database. Did anyone else experience this? Me :) I solved using English (not my native language). For training: - I trained my old junk mail folder as Junk - I trained *all* my other folders as Not Junk (180k messages), using the search function. Now it works fine. -- Giampaolo Bellavite - Milano [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PGP key available) ICQ# 9936 - MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem: Reinstalled TB and Lost accounts
Hi Bats! After a program freeze [TB doesn't start, fatal error on the bat screenshot], I've reinstalled TB. It doesn't recognized the existing accounts mail, requesting a new one. I've set a new account using the same folder of an older one, and so TB recognized the right pre-existing settings, but any message in the folders is lost... What can I do to reimport the other accounts avoiding this errors? [Stupid-proof TO-DO Task: Backup my mail weekly!] cheers Jacopo -- __ Jacopo [Italy] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem: Reinstalled TB and Lost accounts
Hallo Jacopo, On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:11:23 +0200GMT (13-8-2004, 11:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JO What can I do to reimport the other accounts avoiding this errors? Create a new account (never mind the settings). Close TB. Copy the contents of your old account directory to that of your new account. Start TB. Check whether everything is satisfactory. Repeat this for all of your old accounts. When you're done you can delete the original directories. (Don't do that any sooner, just in case.) When this doesn't work properly. (After all their had to be that TB crashed.) You can create new accounts, new folders, new filters etc and afterwards import the messages. (Via the menu) Tools - Import messages - From The Bat! messagebase -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/4 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayes***** Plug-In.
Hello Giampaolo, Friday, August 13, 2004, 5:09:27 AM, you wrote: GB Il 12/08/2004 alle 19.58, Chris Weaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi all, After a few problems with the Bayesit plug-in, I went over to SpamPal as my spam filter. The reason why I left Bayesit in the first place, was that as I was testing betas etc, Bayesit would no longer catch any mail!? It was like it was losing it's database. Did anyone else experience this? GB Me :) GB I solved using English (not my native language). GB For training: GB - I trained my old junk mail folder as Junk GB - I trained *all* my other folders as Not Junk (180k messages), using the GB search function. GB Now it works fine. How did you use the search function for training non-junk mail? -- Best regards, Peter Kerekes (Toronto, Canada) Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed. -- Jonathan Swift TB! v2.12.03 and BayesIt! 0.5.9 on Windows 20005.0.2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.
Dear Chris, -- Donnerstag, 12. August 2004, 19:58:49: The reason why I left Bayesit in the first place, was that as I was testing betas etc, Bayesit would no longer catch any mail!? It was like it was losing it's database. Did anyone else experience this? Never experienced your problems. I've being using since the beginning BayesIt! - now v0.5.9. I remember that in the beginning I was training the DB. since then I didn't had to do any changes. The only problem I find now is that there are those Spams like this 'Make $171' in the Subject. Strangely those I have to filter manually by marking them 'as Junk'. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.
Dear Chris, -- Donnerstag, 12. August 2004, 23:07:50: Now, I've just had a thought and not sure if this is a good idea or not. Can I run them both at the same time? I did this at the beginning. Then Alexey Vinogradov who develops the BayesIt! gave me an explanation of why this should not be done. Click on the msg link here mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. It's where Alexey gave the explanation in TB!beta ML. Should you not have this posting I can send it to you by PM or publish it here on the list. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.
Dear Peter, -- Freitag, 13. August 2004, 15:46:18: How did you use the search function for training non-junk mail? If you want to train JunkMails just select them with your Cursor and 'mark then as Junk' (in the Context Menu|Special|Mark as Junk). -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.
Hi Eddie, On Friday, August 13, 2004 17:05 your local time, which was 16:05 my local time, Eddie Castelli [EC] wrote; EC Should you not have this posting I can send it to you by PM or EC publish it here on the list. Can you possibly re-post it here, as I think other people following this thread might be interested. -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.
Dear Chris, -- Freitag, 13. August 2004, 18:03:28: EC Should you not have this posting I can send it to you by PM or EC publish it here on the list. Can you possibly re-post it here, as I think other people following this thread might be interested. Sure I can. Here it comes START: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === Hello, Eddie. You wrote 28.03.2004 @ 22:48 EC But in my case 'it seams' to work properly. Just small explaining how it works: Suggest, BayesIt graded the letter as 80, and the threshold for moving to junk is 60. Suggest, BF graded same letter as 10. What happens? - If BI is the only filter, it will recognize that grade is more than threshold, then mark such letter as junk for itself. If you found the error, you just re-mark the letter, and all right. - If BI is not only filter, and, suggest, TB uses grade minimum of..., The Bat will use grade 10 (from BF) and will regard such letter as not-spam. However BI which doesn't know anything about BF and about final decision of The Bat!, will categorize such letter basing only on self grade - i.e. 80. So, it will again, mark the letter as junk for itself. Since you can't know what was the grade, you either not remark this letter at all (because you don't know even that error happens) either remark ALL incoming letters to be sure that all of them was trained correctly. This is no function in plugin's API for plugin to know from The Bat the final decision about a letter - and make autotraining (if any) correct way. -- Sincerely, Alexey. ENDE: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What are Chat Folders?
Hello David, Thursday, August 12, 2004, 3:04:39 AM, you wrote: DE Sorry Leif, guess I'm a little dense. That makes it sound like DE when I create a chat folder, it sets up a sort of ListServ or echo DE relay, but only for TB users. IAE, it looks like something that I DE can (should) probably leave for later. E. No.. I guess the simplest way to explain is would be to mimic it manually. You send a message to some friends at work. You then create a folder and a filter to filter any replies to that folder. All your friends who received your initial message or join in later also do the same. So you have a folder which collects all the conversation about your original message. The Chat feature just automates this for you. Where it can really make a mess is when you do it on one of the TB lists, because then everyone gets a Chat folder and that thread ends up there instead of whatever folder all their TB messages get put into normally. DE Sorry about the sig line the duplicated messages. I hadn't seen DE such a feature before the templates for my The Bat common DE folder were all set to %BLANK by default. np.. :grin: -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Sorry officer, I was holding my dogs' leash at the time. Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/4 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.
Hi Eddie, On Friday, August 13, 2004 18:15 your local time, which was 17:15 my local time, Eddie Castelli [EC] wrote; EC Sure I can. Here it comes Thanks for posting that, it made for very interesting reading. :-/ Which leads me to the following questions; 1. Why have the option to install more than one anti-spam plug-in? 2. Which one to go for (BayesIt or BayesFilter)? hmm -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: If Exists Macro?
Hello there... ...well, that if exists function... :-) I just found out my problem is different. My beloved :) music player allows me to create a file in the style of now playing... - I wanted to check wether this file exists, and if it does, include it below my signature, and otherwise include a cookie. However, if the player isn't playing a thing, the file still exists, but is empty (0 bytes). So an if exists doesn't help me very much, I'd rather need to check the size of the file... I suppose that can be done with a RegEx but this is exceeding my capabilites by far (so far:-) ... (in addition, that %IF clause continues to puzzle me) Thanks for your help anyway to all of you. -- Best regards, Alexander Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. (Winston Churchill) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Folders NOT emptying on exit)
On 8/13/2004, at 11:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Ron. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. === Hello and Thanks!! While personally I don't prefer the bottom posting format, I certainly will comply with the group's preferences And besides, the power of the bat, makes it very simple to changes reply preferences for different folders!!! Gotta love it!!! -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Folders NOT emptying on exit)
Hello Ron, Friday, August 13, 2004, 12:12:54 PM, you wrote: RC While personally I don't prefer the bottom posting format, I RC certainly will comply with the group's preferences And RC besides, the power of the bat, makes it very simple to changes RC reply preferences for different folders!!! Gotta love it!!! Most definitely, and thanks to you too! -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Statistics show 43% of all statistics are worthless. Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Best Shareware Web Enhancement or Utility
Hello tbudl, I don't know if this is already known, but check out this PC Magazine article: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1634020,00.asp Nice Plug! -- Best regards, Steve The Berlin Wall is the defining achievement of socialism. -- George Will TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No roguemoticon for Leif (was: Mod: Top posting)
On Friday, August 13, 2004, 2:15:54 PM, Leif wrote: LG Hello Ron, LG Friday, August 13, 2004, 12:12:54 PM, you wrote: RC While personally I don't prefer the bottom posting format, I RC certainly will comply with the group's preferences And RC besides, the power of the bat, makes it very simple to changes RC reply preferences for different folders!!! Gotta love it!!! LG Most definitely, and thanks to you too! Leif, For the last two days, I haven't been able to see your photo. I can see that you have your X-rogue header in your messages but, for some reason, I am not seeing your picture. I see everyone else's picture. Yours is the only one I'm not seeing. Is everyone else seeing your photo? Hmmm... I just checked the rogues.msl file. The only occurence of your name shows the handle as :Leif:. Your X-Rogue header has it as :Leif_Gregory: -- Thanks, Rick Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx :flag-usa: Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No roguemoticon for Leif (was: Mod: Top posting)
Hello Rick, Friday, August 13, 2004, 1:21:45 PM, you wrote: RF Hmmm... I just checked the rogues.msl file. The only occurence of RF your name shows the handle as :Leif:. Your X-Rogue header has it RF as :Leif_Gregory: Good catch. I remember last week I changed my handle in my account and forgot to do it in my template. Thanks. -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: The truth is out there? Anyone know the URL? Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Conversion from Pegasus (DLists)
Hi All, I'm a (former) Pegasus (4) user. TheBat converts the eMail files great, but Pegasus has a nasty habit when distribution lists are used. It sets the recipient to the list ID. When TB converts these messages, the recipient becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way that I can change this field to a normal address (or several, if I've created the corresponding group in my TB address book)? I'm thinking something like this might be possible in a filter??? FWIW, Pegasus also has a setting, so that the person's name is stored in the eMail, and not their address, or Self in the case of a Copy for Self message...unfriendly of Peg, that. -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat Pricing
Hi All, On the TB web page, there is a list of prices, but there's no info about what's included/required. Are there special benefits to, for example, a business license? -- TIA, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat Pricing
Hi David, on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:58:59 +0200GMT, you wrote: DE On the TB web page, there is a list of prices, but there's no DE info about what's included/required. Are there special benefits DE to, for example, a business license? Welcome to TBUDL. :-) No, there are no differences of the versions you get. It is just meant to have a student pay less than a home user, who pays less than a business user. There is nothing required to prove. If you buy an educational version and use it for business, it's just that you infringe the license agreement, no more or less. -- Cheers Peter Example is not the main thing in influencing others. It is the only thing. Albert Schweitzer Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folders NOT emptying on exit
So, now that I have the list's protocol correct, :-) does anyone have any help for my 'problems' of folders not emptying on exit? Thanks, Ron Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Folders NOT emptying on exit)
On 8/13/2004, at 5:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man... You were so close! :grin: === NOW, I've got it I put the deliminitaor on my reply template but NOT the new message template. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Folders NOT emptying on exit)
Hello Ron, Friday, August 13, 2004, 3:58:42 PM, you wrote: RC NOW, I've got it I put the deliminitaor on my reply template RC but NOT the new message template. You da man! :grin: -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Seminar For Males: Fluffing The Blankets After Farting Is Not Necessary. Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat Pricing
Hello David, Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:58:59 +0200 UTC David Earl wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DE On the TB web page, there is a list of prices, but there's no DE info about what's included/required. Are there special benefits DE to, for example, a business license? There are no benefits. It's regular shareware practice to charge businesses more than the average user. As I use it for my business, I'm expected to be able to pay more as it's a business expense. I think it's a great mechanism as students -- who generally do not have money to spare -- can also use software legally. It's a mindset people have to get into. -- Regards, Charles. The Bat! version 2.13 Lucky Beta/3 on Windows 2000 5.0 (2195 Service Pack 4) via Courier IMAP 3.06 on FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE pgp19pInksr4y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
