WinAmp macro
Hi Bat! Fans, Can anyone point me to this macro? Searched the archives, but can't seem to find any actual info. I know some time ago it was the Flavour of the Month here! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Without Viagra, I would be of no use to anyone. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why will this not filter automatically?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [A] wrote,
snipped a bit
A The filter below will not work autoamtically - it will work no
A problem if filtered manually. Why?
Because there is nothing in the Condition for the filter to act on.
I don't even know how it is working manually, it doesn't make sense.
I would suggest something like: Text - Contains - REF: ATM if there is
always a Ref # in the email. That should work with no problem.
The filter will look like this:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [9BBA430E.01C4B29E.7D7ABA06.43893E22]
Name: ATM\20BUYONLINE\20ORDER
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`REF:\20ATM\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CATM\20BuyOnLine\5CActual\20Orders
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
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automated response
I am out of the office today 10/15/04. I will return Monday 10/18/04. Thanks, Sean White Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WinAmp macro
Hi John, on Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:46:43 +1000GMT, you wrote: JP Hi Bat! Fans, JP Can anyone point me to this macro? JP Searched the archives, but can't seem to find any actual info. I use MyMacros plugin ( http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ ), which contains %WINAMPTITLE. -- Cheers Peter Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE! Winamp currently playing: Guess Who - Share The Land Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WinAmp macro
Hæ! Friday, October 15, 2004, 11:46, John Phillips wrote: Can anyone point me to this macro? I am using Winamp v2.91 (with the very nice Nucleo Nlog Skin [1]) in conjunction with the Void Title Spy Plugin [2], which creates a small txt-file. I import the content of this file via %Cookie=filename.txt. [1] The Nucleo NLog-skin is available here: http://www1.1001skins.com/skin_details.html?skin_id=1955 [2] Void Title Spy Plugin: http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=10248 -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.1.33 | PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account history (was: Re: What is the name of the file that contains the...........)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
***^\ ._)~~
~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 15 Oct 2004,
@ @ at 02:11:58 +0200, when Roelof Otten wrote:
Hallo subscriber2list,
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:05:15 -0400GMT (15-10-2004, 0:05 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
S What I wish to do is delete some of the names from this list, but,
S thus far, have not found the specific list or any option that
IIRC that's the account.his file in your account directory, it
contains both the history for subjects as for recipients. And some
other things as well, as I found out when opening it. ;-)
Correct, but hardly is possible to delete something in there (and avoid
mangling other entries). Much easier is if you open dr{o|i}p down menu,
in editor, then selecting wanted entry, using cursors, and then simply
hitting delete button. Clean and fast, and the account.his is updated
immediately, and no trails.
- --
Mica
PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast
[Earth LOG: 44 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing]
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=/VtW
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Re: Pgp Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Was Fri, 24 Sep 2004, at 14:01:28 -0400, when Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MM Anyway and whatever could happen, a longer means more time, as I MM understand these cracking technics. (-: More time - good, positive. MM Fast - bad, negative. this is true. But really, what is it I am protecting, and how bad do i want to protect it? There aren't that many passwords that i have that are really that important to me, who would really want them?? and if they got them, could they hurt me?? probably no, most of the time. especially with PGP and an encrypted message! I don't use it much, but if things get sensitive, I can always use it! I agree, particularly with the first sentence. As for the last one, there are opinions that is best to sign/encrypt ALL your mail, since if you do that only with the sensitive ones, then it's easier for a snooper to direct his/her dirty intentions. But, while signing is always possible, encrypting is not, since you would have to have then your correspondents able to use some PGP/GPG software. Also is handy to put y|our public key info somewhere in a corner of your mail, so that if someone would want to send you an enveloped/encrypted message, it would be possible. Now, this indeed has gone to OT area. - -- Mica -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBb6l19q62QPd3XuIRAomtAJ41f/KxDHnjvmpoViCoj1Vd0xvkWgCfeOyi lrr4ByYfLxehgMuoe9dsyM8= =mw9r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WinAmp macro
Hi Peter, On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, at 12:22:33 [GMT+0200] (which was 20:22:33 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: I use MyMacros plugin ( http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ ), which contains %WINAMPTITLE. Thanks. What syntax do you use? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why will this not filter automatically?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [A] wrote,
snipped a bit
A The filter below will not work autoamtically - it will work no
A problem if filtered manually. Why?
Because there is nothing in the Condition for the filter to act on.
I don't even know how it is working manually, it doesn't make sense.
I would suggest something like: Text - Contains - REF: ATM if there is
always a Ref # in the email. That should work with no problem.
The filter will look like this:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [9BBA430E.01C4B29E.7D7ABA06.43893E22]
Name: ATM\20BUYONLINE\20ORDER
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`REF:\20ATM\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CATM\20BuyOnLine\5CActual\20Orders
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
This one works fine:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [8131D9C2.01C4A270.706C71A0.31BD3C25]
Name: TheBat\20UserList
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CAK\20Admin\5CThe\20Bat
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter
Apart from what it's looking for and what it does - I see no
difference. This works automaticwlly, the one above doesn't.
--
Marten Gallagher
Annery Kiln Web Design
www.annerykiln.co.uk
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with POPFile 0.21.1
on Windows XP 5.1
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Re: automated response
Dear Sean, @15-Oct-2004, 05:04 (15-Oct 12:04 UK time) Sean White [SW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SW I am out of the office today 10/15/04. I will return Monday 10/18/04. I have suspended your mail delivery rather than allow any more OOO posts to hit the lists. Fortunately for us you are on digest delivery, so we only got one of them. To re-enable mail flow, see the instructions and links regarding list membership management here: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpleNYt9Y4Qm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WinAmp macro
Hi John, on Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:43:51 +1000GMT, you wrote: [%WINAMPTITLE] JP Thanks. What syntax do you use? I use a Quick Template containing the line Winamp currently playing: %WINAMPTITLE -- Cheers Peter He's not dead, he's electroencephalographically challenged. Winamp currently playing: Brooks And Dunn - Hard Workin' Man Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters - How to use
ON Thursday, October 14, 2004, 10:09:11 PM, you wrote: ASK You can use them to keep the sorting office tidier. Since thats the only ASK thing I do with subfilters so far I describe it. :-) ASK I'm using one parent filter for mailinglists. It checks whether I'm the ASK recipient, or not (header field TO does not contain @neurowerx.de in my ASK case, just the checking, no further actions). ASK If I'm not, its a list message (since the TO header field the list address, ASK [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this list). Inside this parent filter are ASK sub-filters for the individual lists I'm subscribed to (sorting them into ASK their directories). Hi Alexander, That was helpful. So it is basically a sort of preselection you can do. I guess this will be most beneficial if you have some processor heavy filter running. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I may be the only golfer never to have broken a single putter; if you don't count the one I twisted and threw into a bush. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WinAmp macro
Hi Peter, On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, at 13:26:09 [GMT+0200] (which was 21:26:09 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: I use a Quick Template containing the line Winamp currently playing: %WINAMPTITLE Hey, that's pretty snappy! Thanks. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 640K ought to be enough for anybody. - Bill Gates, 1981 Winamp currently playing: Penny Dale - Georgia Time (Country Music USA - Yesterday's Legends Today's Hits) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply Filtering
Dear All, Can I set the bat to put all replies in the same folder as the message that they are the replyinh to? Or do I need to create filters for every folder? Thanks -- PJ Using TB! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why will this not filter automatically?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [A] wrote,
snipped a bit
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [9BBA430E.01C4B29E.7D7ABA06.43893E22]
Name: ATM\20BUYONLINE\20ORDER
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`REF:\20ATM\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CATM\20BuyOnLine\5CActual\20Orders
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
A This one works fine:
A
A TB! Message Filter
A beginFilter
A UID: [8131D9C2.01C4A270.706C71A0.31BD3C25]
A Name: TheBat\20UserList
A Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A MoveMessage folder \5C\5CAK\20Admin\5CThe\20Bat
A IsActive
A IsSendQueue
A endFilter
A
A Apart from what it's looking for and what it does - I see no
A difference. This works automaticwlly, the one above doesn't.
I setup the filter that I suggested and sent myself a test message
with REF: ATM in the text and it worked fine (automagically). If it
doesn't work for you, then it must be some little thing that is making
it break, like maybe the actual path to the folder or something like
that. It works fine here.
--
Regards,
Ron Secord
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Re: Redirection
Hi TBUDL, Can anyone help resolve why when I redirect an incoming email which contains active hyperlinks i.e web page URL does it redirect with a plain text message format thereby rendering the facility of clicking the URL useless to the new recipient? assuming you'r original email was sent as plaintext as well this is simply due to the email client of your recipent. when you've receipt your email as html either forward it as html as well or don't inline the original message but attach it to the forward. -- Best regards, Jan Oetjen[EMAIL PROTECTED] .~ http://oetjen-online.de || | C.O.B.O.L - Completely Obsolete Boring Old Language. | || `~~[ Random Quote ]~~' pgp03xUtGxkGJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Filtering
ON Friday, October 15, 2004, 1:10:19 PM, you wrote: PJ Can I set the bat to put all replies in the same folder as the message PJ that they are the replyinh to? Or do I need to create filters for PJ every folder? Hi Paul, The way I have done this is create a read filter that has the same trigger as the incoming filter. I filter my mail by address book and the send msg to. As far as I know there is now way for TB! to know were the original mail was and then send the reply to that folder. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- A golfer cannot let the first few holes, shots, or putts determine his thinking for the rest of the round. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
alternative glyph sets
Does anyone know when the alternative glyph sets, mentioned in the help file of The Bat! 3.01, will be available? -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.0.1.33 Directory Opus 8: the premier file manager for Windows Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Redirection
Hi Friday, October 15, 2004, 4:30:22 PM, you wrote: Hi TBUDL, Can anyone help resolve why when I redirect an incoming email which contains active hyperlinks i.e web page URL does it redirect with a plain text message format thereby rendering the facility of clicking the URL useless to the new recipient? assuming you'r original email was sent as plaintext as well this is simply due to the email client of your recipent. when you've receipt your email as html either forward it as html as well or don't inline the original message but attach it to the forward. You misunderstand my message. I am referring to the facility of REDIRECTION which should not make any changes to the original email and NOT FORWARDING. REDIRECTION allows you to resend the original email to a 3rd party without the email appearing to have come from you. When doing this manually in TheBat the hypertext URL is converted to plain text and is no longer active (clickable). This then renders the facility of REDIRECTION useless. Unless I have switched something on/off that I should not have done. -- Morpheus Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is the name of the file that contains the list of email addresses that are displayed when one
Hello subscriber2list, But your suggestion works better!!! ;) You shouldn't say that on a Friday evening because now I'll have to tell you that your owe me a beer. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles
Hi On Tuesday, 28 September, 2004, at 11:25:57 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: but basically, you call up PGPKeys, and see if you have the keyservers: keyserver.pgp.com europe.keys.pgp.com pgp.mit.edu is a useful addition to that list, IMHO -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Redirection
On Friday, October 15, 2004, TBUDL wrote... Can anyone help resolve why when I redirect an incoming email which contains active hyperlinks i.e web page URL does it redirect with a plain text message format thereby rendering the facility of clicking the URL useless to the new recipient? assuming you'r original email was sent as plaintext as well this is simply due to the email client of your recipent. when you've receipt your email as html either forward it as html as well or don't inline the original message but attach it to the forward. You misunderstand my message. I am referring to the facility of REDIRECTION which should not make any changes to the original email and NOT FORWARDING. REDIRECTION allows you to resend the original email to a 3rd party without the email appearing to have come from you. When doing this manually in TheBat the hypertext URL is converted to plain text and is no longer active (clickable). This then renders the facility of REDIRECTION useless. Unless I have switched something on/off that I should not have done. Is the original email plain text, or HTML? TB shouldn't modify anything on redirection, though I vaguely remember seeing something crop up about HTML redirection in the past, but it might have been for forwards only. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 'The Geek shall inherit the earth.' - Linus 5:5 pgpvzAAfghJVP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail aliases
Hi On Thursday, 30 September, 2004, at 3:40:10 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: TN At least when the filters are working... ;) Filters? They don't relate to folder templates. Are you sure that's what you meant? I suspect Thorvald meant that when the filters are working the message is sorted to the correct folder and so the correct folder template is invoked. ;-) -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] The Bat! 3.01 released
Hi ritlabs-news, On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, at 16:32:38 [GMT+0300] (which was 23:32:38 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: - The Sorting Office interface has been improved. The user can now search though the filters. The Sorting Office window has been given a new toolbar. Where is the Sorting Office? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The floggings will continue until morale improves. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security newby and yellow circles
On 10/15/2004 04:17 pm, MFPA wrote: Hi On Tuesday, 28 September, 2004, at 11:25:57 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: but basically, you call up PGPKeys, and see if you have the keyservers: keyserver.pgp.com europe.keys.pgp.com pgp.mit.edu is a useful addition to that list, IMHO yes it is, if you depend on keyservers. I don't put my key on the keyservers, I tell you how to get it using my sig kludges ( headers). right now I am setting up a new Xandros Linux setup, so I don't have my PGP info here, but if you look in the archive I know you will find it. -- Paul Cartwright Linux registered user # 367800 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [News] The Bat! 3.01 released
Hello John, Friday, October 15, 2004, 3:56:44 PM, you wrote: - The Sorting Office interface has been improved. The user can now search though the filters. The Sorting Office window has been given a new toolbar. JP Where is the Sorting Office? Account==Sorting Office/Filters. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] The Bat! 3.01 released
Hello John! On Friday, October 15, 2004, 3:56 PM, you wrote: JP Where is the Sorting Office? Account/(drop-down menu)Sorting Office/Filters -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] The Bat! 3.01 released
Hi Mary, On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, at 16:02:44 [GMT-0500] (which was Sat, 7:02:44 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Account/(drop-down menu)Sorting Office/Filters So how do I sort them? (Technically challenged this morning!) -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] The Bat! 3.01 released
Hello John! On Friday, October 15, 2004, 4:07 PM, you wrote: MB Account/(drop-down menu)Sorting Office/Filters JP So how do I sort them? JP (Technically challenged this morning!) So am I! Morning, Noon, and Night! :) Click on the Sorting Office/Filters choice in the menu. If you have any filters, they will have carried over from your previous installation of The Bat! A list of them will appear. Highlight one. The tabs will let you see the Conditions, Actions, and Options for the one whose name you highlight. If you want to create a new filter, choose File (drop-down menu) in this Sorting Office/Filters window, and select New and click on it. Then fill in the empty box fields according to your intuition. I managed to make mine by trial-and-error and mistakes and asking on tbbeta when the New Filter System was in post-v. 3.0 testing phase. Additionally, you have a choice of Incoming Mail and Outgoing Mail filters here, also. Once you get the hang of the programmers' logic in your head, to me, at least, it is much more straightforward, easy, and flexible than the Old Filter System. For most filters Regular Expressions are now not needed at all. A big plus? Huh? -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [News] The Bat! 3.01 released
Hello John, Friday, October 15, 2004, 4:07:43 PM, you wrote: Account/(drop-down menu)Sorting Office/Filters JP So how do I sort them? JP (Technically challenged this morning!) You can use the Move Up/Down/In/Out buttons, if that's what you mean. If not: I guess the Sorting Office is an analogy for a Post Office in that you can use it to sort your mail into different folders. You have to create a filter that would move your messages to different directories based on some criteria. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)
Saturday, October 9, 2004, 1:12:44 AM, Mica wrote: MM Btw, is good to have local time also quoted, altho just a remark about MM time zone(s) helps enough too. I've been absent from the list for a while and have just taken the time to read some posts - this being the first. I have to agree with Mica's comment above. I haven't bothered in my personal emails, but in my line of work (IT) I deal a lot with people in other timezones. To this end I always put the following on my footer: GMT +13:00 I don't see the point of making any reference to what time it is *now* in anyone's timezone. I'm telling you I am at GMT + 13. When/if that matters to anyone, they can figure out whether to call me. This reminds me of a really simple system that Acorn Computers used in their RISC OS product. The system clock and ALL timestamps (i.e. on files etc) were in UTC. Period. The smart bit was that whenever the OS displayed a time, it adjusted it according to a UTC offset system value. If the user had to enter a time, you would subtract the offset and store it as UTC. That way, all you ever had to do was keep your own offset correct, and keep your clock accurate to the minutes. You could send files all around the world and everyone could tell exactly how many hours and minutes old it was without needing to know what timezone the file originated from. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Hello Allister! On Friday, October 15, 2004, 6:01 PM, you wrote: AJ I don't see the point of making any reference to what time it is AJ *now* in anyone's timezone. I'm telling you I am at GMT + 13. AJ When/if that matters to anyone, they can figure out whether to AJ call me. But Allister, I am so mathematically challenged that I have to run a special program to tell me what's what. So I appreciate seeing what time it is locally in the messages I receive, especially on these international mailing lists. You are speaking from a business point of view. I am speaking from the point of view of a provincial user smack in the middle of a very wide continent. :) Welcome back. We have the tbdup wiki project going now, so I am putting off learning HTML for awhile. I know you are on a large continent, also. But you are brainier mathematically than I am. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: :flag-newzealand: :flag-usa: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
On 15/10/2004 at 6:17:37 PM, Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: But Allister, I am so mathematically challenged that I have to run a special program to tell me what's what. So I appreciate seeing what time it is locally in the messages I receive, especially on these international mailing lists. The TB! templates above will give the time to your own timezone. So if someone is replying to your message and using a TB! template, as is the case in this list, the time you wrote will be corrected to their time zone. -- -= Allie =- . On a scale of 1 to 10, 4 is about 7. __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 3.01 Automatically Registered itself?
G'day TBUDL Members, I finally took the plunge and downloaded version 3.0.1.33 the other day and paid my registration via CIFNET. My registration e-mail arrived this morning and I viewed in from the Ticker. Immediately after I got a pop-up window thanking me for registering The Bat! On checking I see that my name and serial number now appear under Help - About and I no longer get the reminder message about registering when I start The Bat! all with no action by me other than reading the e-mail. I am a little concerned that merely viewing a text e-mail can trigger the registration process without any intervention by me. One of the things that I loved about The Bat! was that unlike some other e-mail clients scripts or other processes could not be run automatically just by viewing a message. Has this now changed? Has The Bat! lost its main security advantage and will other malicious scripts also now run merely by opening an e-mail? If I was to forward this message to someone else with an unregistered copy of The Bat! would it also automatically register their copy in my name? (I'm not planning on doing so - just curious about the implications of allowing a text e-mail to trigger something like this.) I notice that the registration e-mail also instructs that the message should be printed (obviously sensible) _AND_ backed up to a floppy disk or writeable CD in case I need to reinstall The Bat! Does this mean that the registration details will no longer be able to be entered manually as in the past? If this is the case will a copy of the message in TXT format be sufficient, or does it need to be saved in some more exotic format to preserve the hidden trigger to activate the program? Presumably since the original message was text, a TXT copy should be sufficient? On checking further I find that the latest Help File actually does mention the automatic registration procedure (I got so used to the Help file being several version out of date that I hadn't looked there). It also does mention manually entering the details by a cut and paste if the message was received in another E-mail client, so I guess that answers that part of my question. I'm surprised that no one else has commented about this. -- Bob Mo®®is Saturday, 16 October 2004 Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 12:17:37 PM, Mary wrote: MB I know you are on a large continent, also. Umm. Nope. One timezone. http://www.tourism.org.nz/ You weren't thinking of Australia were you? -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Hello Allie! On Friday, October 15, 2004, 7:56 PM, you wrote: MB But Allister, I am so mathematically challenged that I have to run a MB special program to tell me what's what. So I appreciate seeing what MB time it is locally in the messages I receive, especially on these MB international mailing lists. AM The TB! templates above will give the time to your own timezone. So if AM someone is replying to your message and using a TB! template, as is AM the case in this list, the time you wrote will be corrected to their AM time zone. I had noticed that, but I did not know that it was the TB! templates. I like the way things are, and I hope they will not be changed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Hello Allister! On Friday, October 15, 2004, 8:52 PM, you wrote: MB I know you are on a large continent, also. AJ Umm. Nope. One timezone. Well, but with the entire Pacific on either side. ;) AJ http://www.tourism.org.nz/ AJ You weren't thinking of Australia were you? No, I knew it was New Zealand. Recognized your flag. Working with those in PCWSmileys has expanded the ones I know on sight. I just became overly concerned that you would feel overwhelmed by the large land mass on which I dwell, and I wished to indicate that I knew you did not live on an atoll. Magnificent scenery in New Zealand, as seen in the Lord of the Rings movies! But you truly are a long plane ride away from me. -- Best regards, Mary :Trill: :flag-newzealand: :flag-usa: The Bat! 3.0.2.1 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allister, On 16 October 2004 at 14:52:03GMT +1300 (which was 02:52 where I live) Allister Jenks wrote and made these points on the subject of OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]: NZ is the antipodes of Lisbon, where I live. How does it feel living upside down? :) - -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: The BAT! 3.0.2.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQXCHc1PsaxtteqJVEQIAkACfRUGIDpIavdsQ6UDo7XeAWOV3meMAoIkD Z6EEyFeee5uAWh0mPWfByf38 =U5Dj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Hello Maria, Friday, October 15, 2004, 9:28:59 PM, you wrote: MCR On 16 October 2004 at 14:52:03GMT +1300 (which was 02:52 where I live) Wouldn't this be +1200, or are you on Daylight Saving Time. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.01 Automatically Registered itself?
On 15/10/2004 at 8:49:38 PM, Bob Morris, [BM] wrote: My registration e-mail arrived this morning and I viewed in from the Ticker. Immediately after I got a pop-up window thanking me for registering The Bat! On checking I see that my name and serial number now appear under Help - About and I no longer get the reminder message about registering when I start The Bat! all with no action by me other than reading the e-mail. I am a little concerned that merely viewing a text e-mail can trigger the registration process without any intervention by me. This is peculiar only to the registration message. TB! doesn't do anything else like that. :) One of the things that I loved about The Bat! was that unlike some other e-mail clients scripts or other processes could not be run automatically just by viewing a message. Has this now changed? No. Has The Bat! lost its main security advantage and will other malicious scripts also now run merely by opening an e-mail? No. If I was to forward this message to someone else with an unregistered copy of The Bat! would it also automatically register their copy in my name? (I'm not planning on doing so - just curious about the implications of allowing a text e-mail to trigger something like this.) Yes. This is why you shouldn't forward it to someone else. Additionally, forwarding it to someone else without the automatic registration upon opening the message, will not prevent them from doing so manually. :) I notice that the registration e-mail also instructs that the message should be printed (obviously sensible) _AND_ backed up to a floppy disk or writeable CD in case I need to reinstall The Bat! Does this mean that the registration details will no longer be able to be entered manually as in the past? No. If this is the case will a copy of the message in TXT format be sufficient, or does it need to be saved in some more exotic format to preserve the hidden trigger to activate the program? Presumably since the original message was text, a TXT copy should be sufficient? As far as I can see, a text copy should be sufficient. I don't see any special header information there that you'd need to save. On checking further I find that the latest Help File actually does mention the automatic registration procedure (I got so used to the Help file being several version out of date that I hadn't looked there). It also does mention manually entering the details by a cut and paste if the message was received in another E-mail client, so I guess that answers that part of my question. I'm surprised that no one else has commented about this. I have other software that does similar things. You open the registration window and you copy the serial number from the e-mail message. You go to paste it in the serial number entry field only to see that it's already there. -- -= Allie =- . ... I'll be Bach. - Johann Sebastian Schwarzenegger __ The Bat! v3.0.1.33 - IMAP mail Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Stuart, On 16 October 2004 at 21:43:12GMT -0500 (which was 03:43 where I live) Stuart Cuddy wrote and made these points on the subject of OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]: SC Wouldn't this be +1200, or are you on Daylight Saving Time. :) Yep, until the last Saturday of October. Than, it's back to GMT. - -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: The BAT! 3.0.2.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQXCPu1PsaxtteqJVEQLKmQCg/n38+Qu9E44Wl2f872X1qshdETIAoNGT /Btd4LRVeAbi7RVKkPqXW0b3 =qrFQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: REG EXPRESSIONS
Hello, everyone. I have noticed that several people are mentioning the complicated topic of regular expressions, in how they relate specifically to The Bat!, of course. I have played with Perl on and off for several years, but regular expressions have, I candidly admit, intimidated me. (After I installed Linux on my multi- boot PC a couple of years ago, I thought that Linux would provide me with the chance to get serious about learning Perl, which I have tried before -- first, when my only computer was a pre-Mac-OS-X Macintosh and only MacPerl was available and, later, when DzSoft http://www.dzsoft.com/ released its excellent Perl editor for Windows -- but people then started advising me to learn PHP instead.) ;-) I do not want to write a message that should be on the TBOT list, but I did want to mention a book, in English, if you are serious about learning regular expressions, and do not mind working hard. The book is O'Reilly's 'Mastering Regular Expressions', by Jeffrey E. F. Friedl: - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex/index.html The book is four years old (still in its first edition, 1997), unfortunately: Regular expressions, a powerful tool for manipulating text and data, are found in scripting languages, editors, programming environments, and specialized tools. In this book, author Jeffrey Friedl leads you through the steps of crafting a regular expression that gets the job done. He examines a variety of tools and uses them in an extensive array of examples, with a major focus on Perl O'Reilly's 'Perl Pocket Reference', by Johan Vromans, is, however, in its fourth edition (2002). Of course, I am still struggling through Friedl's tome, and there are probably some great Web sites on regular expressions that would be more suitable for the casual user. I hope that this information is of help to someone! Thank you! Cordially, David -- A program is a device used to convert data into error messages. _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Difference(s) Between The Bat! 3.0's Two Versions
Hello, Mica! On Wednesday, 13 October 2004, Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM ...Ah, I forgot to add: between ethics and health, MM I always choose health. Although I did not understand some parts of your post, Mica (forgive me), I never would try to tell another person which flavor of The Bat! she or he is ethically or legally entitled to use. Each of us is free to choose, of course, and I am just trying to make a decision based upon my own set of criteria. Such a decision is a personal one. As I say, the people who run major shareware companies in Ukraine and Russia, and use the personal edition of The Bat! are good friends of mine, and I make no judgements. The fact that they use the personal edition is of no concern to me. Which edition *I* decide to register and use (despite personal difficult economic times right now) is, of course, my concern. As we say in English, I was thinking out loud in my post to TBUDL about my personal ethics and which edition of The Bat! I should register. Given the lack of a manual for The Bat! and the situation with user support, users of The Bat!, regardless of which edition they use, need very important resources such as TBUDL. I personally feel that a strong sense of us being a community is an added benefit that makes the TBUDL even more valuable, because I know from my own personal experience that we can enrich each other's lives in such on-line discussions, as well as help each other solve problems and learn how to use The Bat! most effectively. (Okay, I admit that I am an idealist.) ;-) We certainly are in agreement about mangy gratis parakeets, Mica, which I assume is your metaphor for Outlook Express. I am evaluating The Bat! as a replacement for Outlook XP/2002, for which I paid as part of Office XP Professional. Security obviously is a concern that all of us share. (One of my peeves about most of the mail that I get from Oulook users is the assumption that I want all of the bloat of MS-HTML messages; I kind of miss the early days when my choice for an e-mail message editor was 'pico' or 'vi' -- text only, either way.) I apologize if my musings about ethics offended or upset you in any way, Mica. I really should have kept my musings to myself. After all, TBUDL is not a discussion list about philosophy. ;-) Finally, I probably should not have brought up Percy Bysshe Shelley in a message about moral issues. I love Shelley's poetry, but his personal life should probably not be a role model for anyone concerned about ethics. ;-) I'm getting *way* off topic, Mica, so I will apologize again, and wish you the best! Cordially, David -- Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 3:28:59 PM, Maria wrote: MCR NZ is the antipodes of Lisbon, where I live. How does it feel living MCR upside down? :) .smelborp yna deciton t'nevah I Seriously though - if gravity weren't stronger than the centrifugal force, nobody would be right-side-up anyway! -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 3:43:12 PM, Stuart wrote: MCR On 16 October 2004 at 14:52:03GMT +1300 (which was 02:52 where I live) SC Wouldn't this be +1200, or are you on Daylight Saving Time. :) The standard time is indeed +1200. We started daylight saving on the first Sunday in October. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 4:04:21 PM, Maria wrote: SC Wouldn't this be +1200, or are you on Daylight Saving Time. :) MCR Yep, until the last Saturday of October. Than, it's back to GMT. That would be a very short period for daylight savings. It ends on the third Sunday in March and then goes back to +1200 - not GMT. :-) -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 3:08:35 PM, Mary wrote: MB I know you are on a large continent, also. AJ Umm. Nope. One timezone. MB Well, but with the entire Pacific on either side. ;) Actually wrong again! (Sorry!) Pacific to the North, East and South, but the Tasman Sea to the West. AJ You weren't thinking of Australia were you? MB No, I knew it was New Zealand. Recognized your flag. Working with MB those in PCWSmileys has expanded the ones I know on sight. :-) It's just that NZ is not a continent. Australia is. Technically, NZ is described as comprising of three main islands and a number of smaller ones. MB I just became overly concerned that you would feel overwhelmed by the MB large land mass on which I dwell, and I wished to indicate that I knew MB you did not live on an atoll. Not overwhelmed at all. I've visited Vancouver, Houston, LA and Denver (well, the airports of the last two) and flown LA to London. I have an appreciation of the size involved. MB Magnificent scenery in New Zealand, as seen in the Lord of the Rings MB movies! As in many other places in the world. Some of the best scenery I have seen was in and around Vancouver and I long to cruise up the west coast from there one day. MB But you truly are a long plane ride away from me. About 12 hours to LA direct. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.01 Automatically Registered itself?
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 2:49:38 PM, Bob wrote: BM I finally took the plunge and downloaded version 3.0.1.33 the other BM day and paid my registration via CIFNET. My registration e-mail BM arrived this morning and I viewed in from the Ticker. Immediately BM after I got a pop-up window thanking me for registering The Bat! On BM checking I see that my name and serial number now appear under Help - BM About and I no longer get the reminder message about registering when BM I start The Bat! all with no action by me other than reading the BM e-mail. Oh thank goodness! I thought I was going crazy. I upgraded just this afternoon and wondered what that dialog was about. I just went ahead and cut and pasted into the 'Enter registration' box anyway - which was empty. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIT! and filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I get some pretty rude email spam. I have setup a filter to delete from the server anything with certain words in the subject. Many of these still get processed by BayesIT! and not deleted from the server. I am using a series of OR statements in the filter, and it looks like the ones that get through have more than one of my special words. So, how can I make a filter that will delete from the serve any email that has one or more of these ten special words? - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2) Ponder this: The wonder of a single snowflake outweighs the wisdom of a million meteorologists. morning dayevening 21:46 Spam Stats, last Week (BayesIt! 0.7.3) Total Spam Emails: 157 Total Clean Emails: 1165 BayesIT guessed right 96.909871% of the time My email is 11.875946% spam = -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQXCoTfvT94bCV8K0EQKKTACfZC7RMXR/e7OEv0SFoIsaG1JWsikAnj8C gkFK9PO2ga59xylXlreAUnKv =jsJY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
