Re[2]: Strange connect failed !

2005-01-29 Thread WilWilWil
W I manage 5 accounts with TB.

AdG All at free.fr ?
Yes !

AdG They decide to limit the number of simultaneous connections to 4 :(
I 've just tried to remove one account from list of accounts checked when I 
press F11... No more problem. You're right, the problem is that Free.fr seems 
to limit simultaneous connections ! I can't understand why they do that ! :(

I will remove one account from global checking and set an automatic checking 
every 5 minutes for this account. A little solution...

Thanks.


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Re[2]: Strange connect failed !

2005-01-29 Thread WilWilWil


JP Your isp may now be limiting the number of simultaneous connections?
Free.fr doesn't answer to customers questions... How I can learn how Free works 
? Is there some Logs in Win XP to track information about connections ?

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Re: Strange connect failed !

2005-01-29 Thread Ludovic LE MOAL
Hi,

On Saturday, January 29, 2005 at 12:43:45 AM, WilWilWil wrote:

 I had no problem before, but since one week, i get a connect
 failed message for 2 of the 5 accounts when I check for new mail
 for all accounts at the same time (F11 Key).

What are these account ? If it's Free account, they have limited the
simultaneous connection to 4 last week.
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Re: The worlds smallest email?

2005-01-29 Thread Kevin Coates
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Hi Jurgen,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:25:42 +0100 (2:25 PM here), Jurgen Haug [JH]
wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 My guess is that its either misconfigured spam software or a trojan
 spam engine that isn't working as intended. In spite of their small
 size and lack of a message body, I report them to SpamCop anyway.

JH I think I got those spams via my old Geocities account which
JH forwarded it to my Yahoo account. I couldn't stop the Geocities
JH account forwarding that stuff so I just too a new Yahoo account.
JH Never got that again.

I'll keep a closer look at these and see if there is a pattern or a
specific location they emanate from. I don't think its a Bat problem.

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Re: The worlds smallest email?

2005-01-29 Thread Kevin Coates
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Hi Gerard,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:50:55 +0100 (2:50 PM here), Gerard [G] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

G It is good to hear it is not just me that is receiving these. I am
G just wondering how they get send to me, and what you report to
G SpamCop if there is no text and just one empty header?

Don't worry, its nothing personal. :) I use the macro on Marck's web
site to report. Using F9 I do see some addresses. Try it and see for
yourself.

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PGP-signed mails

2005-01-29 Thread Ralph Inselsbacher
Hello TBUDL,

I use PGP 8.1 with TB to sign my outgoing mails. In those mails there is no
trace, that they where signed. So, if i send a mail to - let's say - an
outlook (express) user, how does he / she see, that my mails are signed?

I mean, if i would sign it with the clipboard-method of PGP, a mail would
look like this, with header and footer:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I use PGP 8 with TB to sign my outgoing mails. In those mails there is no
trace, that they where signed. So, if i send a mail to - let's say - an
outlook (express) user, how does he / she see, that my mails are signed?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 8.1 - nicht für kommerzielle Nutzung lizenziert: www.pgp.com

iQA/AwUBQfu5zod6ApVfGjPjEQLmyACgg7EGFob5/XhTQyxCdezGGVVABl4AoOCU
YGHME1hSsmCZldH1L4L04bsE
=QsFU
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

How can i set TB! to sign mails this way?

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Re: PGP-signed mails

2005-01-29 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Ralph Inselsbacher  everyone else,

on 29-Jan-2005 at 17:31 you (Ralph Inselsbacher) wrote:

 I use PGP 8.1 with TB to sign my outgoing mails. In those mails there is
 no trace, that they where signed.

Oh yes, there is. :-)

 So, if i send a mail to - let's say - an outlook (express) user, how does
 he / she see, that my mails are signed?

TB supports PGP/MIME - this will create multi-part messages, one part
containing the (encrypted, if encryption is used) message, the other part
the signature. Open your Sent Mail folder, select a message you signed
with PGP and press F9 to view the message source. You should see the
different MIME parts then.

I don't know how Outlook/OE handle those messages, though (gotta try and
send myself a signed message to my account @ work).

 I mean, if i would sign it with the clipboard-method of PGP, a mail would
 look like this, with header and footer:

This is the old way of in-line signing/encryption. It is rather
uncomfortable to deal with (depending on the email client) and I would
clearly give PGP/MIME the preference. But then again, I don't know about
Outlook/OE. :-)

 How can i set TB! to sign mails this way?

You can use the %NOPGPMIME macro in your template to disable PGP/MIME.

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Re[5]: Filtering question

2005-01-29 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello David,
Thursday, January 27, 2005, 8:15:54 PM, you wrote:

SC beginFilter
SC UID: [A94F7580.01C487AF.76F49386.43107DA2]
SC Name: Michelle
SC Filter:
SC [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.org\0D\0A}
SC MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMTS\5CThe\20Bat!
SC IsActive
SC endFilter

D And please let me be dense and ask, what does this do, specifically?
D Some of the codes I don't know/understand (such as the \0D and etc.)
D and also how it works - I assume this is somehow saying all mail to
D me, from this specific person, that is being sent only to me.

I don't really know how to directly interpret this jumble of info, but
if you copy and paste the info into a filter, you can see what it will
do.

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The actuality of starting using PGP

2005-01-29 Thread admin
Could some kind soul answer this question which remains unclearly answered 
despite two hours online research.

If I want to run PGP in TB, and assuming all my outgoing emails are using PGP:

A
Can anyone using any email client read it without needing to do anything too 
taxing or comples - many of my cients and contacts have zero experience outside 
Outlook Express vanilla.

B
What if some clients access email through MS Excgange Server?

C
What about emails I send to a Mail List Controlling programme? How does it read 
them?

D
What I really can find no answer to is:

How does the system work in actuality for the actual sender and the actual 
recipient of the email in terms of what they are faced with when an email 
arrives and what they have to do to be able to read it.

UK TBers:
I need the 'Ladybird' version.

US TBers:
I need the kindergarten version.

Others:
Keep it so simple you think your being patronising.

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Re: PGP-signed mails

2005-01-29 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander,

  A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz on TBUDL typed on:
  Saturday, January 29, 2005 at 18:04:38 GMT +0100

ASK I don't know how Outlook/OE handle those messages,

Same was as TB! does, you see an attachment icon for you to click and view
the signature.


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Re: The actuality of starting using PGP

2005-01-29 Thread Tony Boom
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

  A reminder of what [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBUDL typed on:
  Saturday, January 29, 2005 at 21:00:05 GMT +0100


aacu A Can anyone using any email client read it without needing to do
aacu anything too taxing or comples - many of my cients and contacts have
aacu zero experience outside Outlook Express vanilla.

Yes, anyone can read it without trouble. They just won't know what it is
that's all.

aacu B What if some clients access email through MS Excgange Server?

Can't help with that one.

aacu C What about emails I send to a Mail List Controlling programme? How
aacu does it read them?

Probably treats them as an attachment and will either display them or
delete them. In which case it's pointless signing.

If it's to a yahoo group list there is a desirable side effect. S/MIME
signed posts tend not to carry all the yahoo advertisements. The signature
remains in tact though.

aacu D What I really can find no answer to is:

aacu How does the system work in actuality for the actual sender
aacu and the actual recipient of the email in terms of what they are faced
aacu with when an email arrives and what they have to do to be able to
aacu read it.

All they need to do is read it as they would a normal email, they just
won't be able to verify it as being from you and unaltered on route.

Unless you encrypt it and then no one will be able to read it without your
key.


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Re: Strange connect failed !

2005-01-29 Thread Robin Anson
On Sat 29 January 2005, 22:19:34 +1000, Wilwilwil wrote:
 Is there some Logs in Win XP to track information about connections ?

In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wolffe explained how to
get detailed logging of the connection to an account. He said

 In the account directory for the specific mailbox
 (ie C:\programs\thebat\mail\yahoo), create the file protocol.ini and
 populate it with these settings:
 
 [pop]
 logging=0
 log=pop.log
 
 [smtp]
 logging=0
 log=smtp.log
 
 [imap]
 logging=0
 log=imap.session
 
 Where logging 0=off and 1=on
 Keep tabs on the log files as they will grow quick. AND it records
 the account name and password in the clear.

That might show you what you want to see.

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Re: The actuality of starting using PGP

2005-01-29 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun 30 January 2005, 6:58:46 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could some kind soul answer this question which remains unclearly
 answered despite two hours online research.

 If I want to run PGP in TB, and assuming all my outgoing emails are using PGP:

Are you intending to encrypt (so that only the intended recipient can
decipher it) or sign (so that recipients with the right technology can
authenticate you as the sender)?

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Re[2]: The actuality of starting using PGP

2005-01-29 Thread Joan Josep
Hello Tony,

Saturday, January 29, 2005, 9:13:29 PM, you wrote:

TB Unless you encrypt it and then no one will be able to read it without your
TB key.

Not so. You do not need the sender's key to read an encrypted e-mail,
because it will be encrypted to the recipient public key. The
recipient only needs his own private key.

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Re: The actuality of starting using PGP

2005-01-29 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Joan,

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, at 23:42:51 [GMT +0100] (which was 3:42 PM where
I live) you wrote:
JJ Not so. You do not need the sender's key to read an encrypted
JJ e-mail, because it will be encrypted to the recipient public key.
JJ The recipient only needs his own private key.

Depends on how you encrypt it. If you encrypt a message using your own
secret key, then people would use your public key to decrypt it. This
is useful if you want to encrypt a message only to keep it from casual
eyes.


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Re: The actuality of starting using PGP

2005-01-29 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Leif,

On Saturday, January 29, 2005, at 3:51:01 PM PST, you wrote:

JJ Not so. You do not need the sender's key to read an encrypted
JJ e-mail, because it will be encrypted to the recipient public key.
JJ The recipient only needs his own private key.

 Depends on how you encrypt it. If you encrypt a message using your
 own secret key, then people would use your public key to decrypt it.
 This is useful if you want to encrypt a message only to keep it from
 casual eyes.

No, that's not quite right.

A public key is never used to decrypt an encrypted message. Only the
holder of the private (secret) key and its corresponding passphrase
can decrypt a message encrypted to the corresponding public key.

There is a method of signing that is not clear signing, and it's
called ascii armoring. It *looks like* it's encrypted, but it's not.
In that case, anyone with PGP or GnuPG using the decrypt  verify
function will convert the message back to clear text at the same time
the signature is verified (providing that the public key of the signer
is present on the recipient's public keyring).

Again though, the only way to decrypt an *encrypted* message is with
one's own private key and passphrase, and the message must be
encrypted using the corresponding public key. A single message can
also be encrypted to several different public keys, so that each
holder of the corresponding private keys can decrypt it using their
own private key/passphrase.

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Gmane and list archives

2005-01-29 Thread Leif Gregory
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Hello users,

It has recently come to our attention, thanks to Greg Strong, that
Gmane has been archiving messages regardless of the setting of
X-Archive expiry=0 header.

Greg has stated that he believes this has been happening since Nov of
2004. After verifying that Greg has been correctly setting his
X-Archive header and that there are messages of his that were
archived
on Gmane we contacted Lars Magne Ingebrigsten of Gmane to see what
was
going on.

,- [ Lars Response ]
| The past month or so expiry on Gmane hasn't been working.  This is
| due to a problem with the news server and LARGEFILE support.
|
| I plan on upgrading the news server either this weekend or the
| next, and then this will start working again.  (The backlog of
| articles to be cancelled will then be processed.)
`-

Messages which are now incorrectly archived with the X-Archive
expiry0
header will automatically be removed once Lars has fixed the problem.

If you post a message to the list prior to Lars upgrading the system,
your message will be archived regardless of the X-Archive setting but
will be removed once the upgrade is complete.

Thanks.


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Re: The actuality of starting using PGP

2005-01-29 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Melissa,

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, at 21:15:50 [GMT -0800] (which was 10:15 PM where
I live) you wrote:
MR No, that's not quite right.

You're right.. My bad.

Sorry for any confusion folks.

Thanks.


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