Mod: Cut mark (was: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Jenny,

Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 6:58:15 AM, you wrote:
> Henk,
> Have you checked you are not bouncing at Yahoo?

> Jenny

Sorry, but another one 
   

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Mod: Top posting (was: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Jenny,

Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 6:58:15 AM, you wrote:
> Henk,
> Have you checked you are not bouncing at Yahoo?

> Jenny


   

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a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the
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b) It encourages excessive quoting.

We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to
which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to,
and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're
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Re: Reprogram the accountpanes tab "Unread"

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Qe3ee,

@6-Jul-2005, 16:23 +0200 (06-Jul 15:23 UK time) qe3ee [Q] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Q>   Varm Summer Greatings all ye "The Batered" users.

Q>   I  have indeed tried to find an answer to this question but gone dev /null 
on
Q>   this.
Q>   Q:  Is  there  a  way to reprogram the e-mailaccounts viewpane namely the 
tab
Q>   called "Unread" and "Virtual"
Q>   WhatI   would   like  to  do  is  to highlight mails replied by ME in 
one
Q>   of those tabs.
Q>   I  have  allready   three   more  tabs  and the screen is to narrow.
Q>   -Could it be shanged?

Create a virtual folder called "Replies" and specify the source as all
folders and filter by "From" (you) and "Subject" (contains Re:).

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Reprogram the accountpanes tab "Unread"

[qe3ee]

Hello wonderful tbudl,

  Varm Summer Greatings all ye "The Batered" users.

  I  have indeed tried to find an answer to this question but gone dev /null on
  this.
  Q:  Is  there  a  way to reprogram the e-mailaccounts viewpane namely the tab
  called "Unread" and "Virtual"
  WhatI   would   like  to  do  is  to highlight mails replied by ME in one
  of those tabs.
  I  have  allready   three   more  tabs  and the screen is to narrow.
  -Could it be shanged?

-- 
greetings from a warm and sunny holiday sweden,
 qe3ee   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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E fructu arbor cognoscitur
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Re: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:49:35 +0200GMT (6-7-2005, 15:49 +0200, where I
live), Jenny wrote:

...

> If Yahoo has detected a problem with your mailbox, and it does this
> regularly for no apparent reason, then it could set your status to
> bouncing, if your mail address is bouncing then you will neither
> receive mails, nor be able to send them.

Hi Jenny,

Thanks but that is not the case, status is normal.

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Re[2]: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Jenny]

Hello Henk,

Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 3:44:26 PM, you wrote:
HMdB> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:58:15 +0200GMT (6-7-2005, 14:58 +0200, where I
HMdB> live), Jenny wrote:

>> Have you checked you are not bouncing at Yahoo?

HMdB> Hi Jenny,

HMdB> I know where to find the bounce history but AFAIK that is for messages
HMdB> send by Yahoo and not send by me, correct me if I am wrong ;-)



If Yahoo has detected a problem with your mailbox, and it does this regularly 
for no apparent reason, then it could set your status to bouncing, if your mail 
address is bouncing then you will neither receive mails, nor be able to send 
them.


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Re: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:58:15 +0200GMT (6-7-2005, 14:58 +0200, where I
live), Jenny wrote:

> Have you checked you are not bouncing at Yahoo?

Hi Jenny,

I know where to find the bounce history but AFAIK that is for messages
send by Yahoo and not send by me, correct me if I am wrong ;-)

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Re: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:53:50 -0500GMT (6-7-2005, 14:53 +0200, where I
live), Mary Bull wrote:

...

> For the past week I have been receiving Returned Mail for some of the
> messages I have sent to TBOT, which is also a yahoogroups list. Since
> the messages were mostly banter, and also depended for effect on
> timely appearance in the thread I was participating in, I did not
> bother about it but simply deleted my "returned mail" notification.

> Some of these were "will retry" notifications and several were
> "permanent failure" notifications. Half a dozen or so in all. I will
> save the next one in case it would help track down the problem.

...
> I'm not sure whether this is OT for TBUDL or not; but, where else can
> we check it out, since TBOT is not reliable?

Thanks for responding Mary. I know I am not the only one having problems
with yahoogroups ;-)

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Re: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:56:12 +0200GMT (6-7-2005, 14:56 +0200, where I
live), Jenny wrote:

RO>> Unfortunately most lists of shortcuts became obsolete when 3.5 came
RO>> out, however you could check this:
RO>> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt

RO>> BTW Did you know that there is a Dutch mailing list about TB?
RO>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Thanks for the link Roelof, 
> is there more traffic on the Dutch or English mailing lists - where
> will I get the most help to become proficient in The Bat?

The help on both lists is great! The English list has much more traffic
though.

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Re: opening HTML files error

[MFPA]

Hi

On Monday 4 July 2005 at 5:45:35 PM, in
, Ben Allen wrote:


> Its called active procrastinating problem solving.

 ROTFL

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Re: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Mary Bull]

Hello Jenny!

On Wednesday, July 06, 2005, 7:58 AM, you wrote:

> Henk, 
> Have you checked you are not bouncing at Yahoo?

Jenny, I am not Henk ( :) ) but I know that I am not bouncing at
Yahoo, because 80 per cent of my posts are reaching the TBOT (The Bat
Off-Topic) list.

These are random failures, for me. Most puzzling.

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Re[2]: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Jenny]

Henk, 
Have you checked you are not bouncing at Yahoo?

Jenny
---

Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 2:53:50 PM, you wrote:
MB> Hello Henk!

MB> On Wednesday, July 06, 2005, 7:14 AM, you wrote:

>> My most recent messages appear not to reach yahoogroups. Can someone
>> confirm the problem?

MB> For the past week I have been receiving Returned Mail for some of the
MB> messages I have sent to TBOT, which is also a yahoogroups list. Since
MB> the messages were mostly banter, and also depended for effect on
MB> timely appearance in the thread I was participating in, I did not
MB> bother about it but simply deleted my "returned mail" notification.

MB> Some of these were "will retry" notifications and several were
MB> "permanent failure" notifications. Half a dozen or so in all. I will
MB> save the next one in case it would help track down the problem.

MB> The last was this morning, for a message I had sent to TBOT on July 4.

MB> Some of my messages to TBOT did get through. I could not see any
MB> common characteristic in those which did not.

MB> I don't know, additionally, what wanadoo and comcast.net might have in
MB> common.

MB> I'm not sure whether this is OT for TBUDL or not; but, where else can
MB> we check it out, since TBOT is not reliable?

MB> I'm sorry now that I deleted those previous failed-mail notifications.
MB> :(

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Re[2]: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Jenny]

Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 2:44:01 PM, you wrote:
RO> Hallo Jenny,

RO> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:28:45 +0200GMT (6-7-2005, 14:28 +0200, where I
RO> live), you wrote:

J>> I am fairly new to The Bat and would like to know if anyone has
J>> a comprehensive list of keyboard shortcuts to use in the mail
J>> program.

RO> Unfortunately most lists of shortcuts became obsolete when 3.5 came
RO> out, however you could check this:
RO> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt

RO> BTW Did you know that there is a Dutch mailing list about TB?
RO> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks for the link Roelof, 
is there more traffic on the Dutch or English mailing lists - where will I get 
the most help to become proficient in The Bat?


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Re: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Mary Bull]

Hello Henk!

On Wednesday, July 06, 2005, 7:14 AM, you wrote:

> My most recent messages appear not to reach yahoogroups. Can someone
> confirm the problem?

For the past week I have been receiving Returned Mail for some of the
messages I have sent to TBOT, which is also a yahoogroups list. Since
the messages were mostly banter, and also depended for effect on
timely appearance in the thread I was participating in, I did not
bother about it but simply deleted my "returned mail" notification.

Some of these were "will retry" notifications and several were
"permanent failure" notifications. Half a dozen or so in all. I will
save the next one in case it would help track down the problem.

The last was this morning, for a message I had sent to TBOT on July 4.

Some of my messages to TBOT did get through. I could not see any
common characteristic in those which did not.

I don't know, additionally, what wanadoo and comcast.net might have in
common.

I'm not sure whether this is OT for TBUDL or not; but, where else can
we check it out, since TBOT is not reliable?

I'm sorry now that I deleted those previous failed-mail notifications.
:(

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Re: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Jenny,

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:28:45 +0200GMT (6-7-2005, 14:28 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

J> I am fairly new to The Bat and would like to know if anyone has
J> a comprehensive list of keyboard shortcuts to use in the mail
J> program.

Unfortunately most lists of shortcuts became obsolete when 3.5 came
out, however you could check this:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt

BTW Did you know that there is a Dutch mailing list about TB?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Jenny]

Hello there, 
I am fairly new to The Bat and would like to know if anyone has a comprehensive 
list of keyboard shortcuts to use in the mail program.


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problems with wanadoo and yahoogroups?

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

Hello TBUDL,

My most recent messages appear not to reach yahoogroups. Can someone
confirm the problem?

I am having the following answers/messages:

Reporting-MTA: dns; notmail.wanadoo.nl
Arrival-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:13:15 +0200 (MEST)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Action: delayed
Status: 4.2.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com
Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:21:12 +0200 (MEST)
Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:13:15 +0200 (MEST)

TIA

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