Re: Editing header process

2005-10-28 Thread Robin Anson
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On Fri 28 October 2005, 02:18:16 +1000, you wrote:
 I can't execute the first line with a .msg extension - it doesn't like it for 
 some reason.

 So...the problem seems to be that TB is not prepared to import a .TXT file 
 even with the X
 parameter included.

Not so here. I have no problems doing that.

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Re: Editing header process

2005-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Robin,

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:57:25 +1000GMT (28-10-2005, 8:57 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 I can't execute the first line with a .msg extension - it doesn't like it 
 for some reason.

I had some similar experiences. Not that it couldn't export to .msg,
but that my batch file somehow couldn't access that .msg file. That
was a batch file like Marten's first trial.

 So...the problem seems to be that TB is not prepared to import a .TXT file 
 even with the X
 parameter included.
RA Not so here. I have no problems doing that.

This could be associated with what I described in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
When you once give a bad import command to TB, it has to be closed
before clearing the stack of commands and being able to import
commands again.

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Re: Filters

2005-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack,

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:09:13 -0500GMT (28-10-2005, 4:09 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

JSL Roelof, your suggestion looked considerably more elegant and I tried
JSL to make it work but, alas, it wouldn't. I eliminated ALL the strings
JSL and substituted for them just the @ sign. I then defined the AB
JSL containing all the senders as a color group and specified this group
JSL in the ADVANCED tab. I would have loved to have had this work because
JSL of your observation that by simply maintaining the AB, I wouldn't ever
JSL have to change the filter as senders came and went.

It should work when you've defined everything properly. I've been
using filtering on AB groups since v1 and never in v2 it stopped
working.
But you're mentioning colour groups and I mentioned AB groups, those
are different things, colour groups are assigned to messages and AB
groups are assigned to addresses in your address book.
Note that AB templates (yes, that's something else) get messed up when
you're having multiple entries with the same address, the same could
be valid for filtering on AB groups.

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Re: Disappering Header info

2005-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Munango-Keewati,

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:57:23 -0500GMT (28-10-2005, 5:57 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MK I just upgraded to 3.60.07 and find that the Header information (From,
MK Subject, Date, etc.) that normally appears above the preview window
MK and at the top of the full-page message reader window is no longer
MK visible.  The field areas are still there, but blank (unless I try to
MK select the information, in which case it becomes visible).  I've tried
MK fiddling with the colors in Header Layout, but this does no good.  Is
MK this a feature of the new version, or have I messed up something in my
MK playing with the program?

I can't suggest otherwise than that it's most likely that you've been
fiddling around. The only place where I can change it is in:
  Options - Preferences - Header Layout - Colour
But from your message I gather that you've been there.
Have been playing with customization? In that case you could close TB
and rename the tbuser.def file in your mail directory, this will
cause all your customizations to be be forgotten. When it doesn't help
(after restarting TB) you can copy it back (after closing TB again).

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Re[2]: Filters

2005-10-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

Friday, October 28, 2005, 3:57:01 AM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Jack,

RO On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:09:13 -0500GMT (28-10-2005, 4:09 +0200, where I
RO live), you wrote:

JSL Roelof, your suggestion looked considerably more elegant and I tried
JSL to make it work but, alas, it wouldn't. I eliminated ALL the strings
JSL and substituted for them just the @ sign. I then defined the AB
JSL containing all the senders as a color group and specified this group
JSL in the ADVANCED tab. I would have loved to have had this work because
JSL of your observation that by simply maintaining the AB, I wouldn't ever
JSL have to change the filter as senders came and went.

RO It should work when you've defined everything properly. I've been
RO using filtering on AB groups since v1 and never in v2 it stopped
RO working.
RO But you're mentioning colour groups and I mentioned AB groups, those
RO are different things, colour groups are assigned to messages and AB
RO groups are assigned to addresses in your address book.
RO Note that AB templates (yes, that's something else) get messed up when
RO you're having multiple entries with the same address, the same could
RO be valid for filtering on AB groups.

You're right of course. I went back and looked again at the filter,
specifically the ADVANCED tab and only then noticed there was a slider
bar on the right of the dialog box. Sliding the bar down exposes the
rest of the choices which includes specifying a particular AB. I
re-configured the filter as per your previous instructions and it
works perfectly.

Again, thank you.

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Re: Disappering Header info

2005-10-28 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Munango-Keewati,

Friday, October 28, 2005, 5:57:23 AM, you wrote:

 I just upgraded to 3.60.07 and find that the Header information (From,
 Subject, Date, etc.) that normally appears above the preview window
 and at the top of the full-page message reader window is no longer
 visible.

Could it have something to do with this?

- mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 In 3.61.02 the headers are still not displayed in the preview pane
 under Windows 98 SE.

You must upgrade Windows to support Unicode, Alexander Kunz offered
this link:

 Go to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads and search for unicode, select
 Windows 95 (or 98 or ME) as platform. You'll get a single hit for the
 search (its an executable, running it is probably enough to install it,
 though I don't know for sure).
-

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Colouring folders in folder view pane

2005-10-28 Thread John Phillips
Hi Bat! Fans,


I have asked this before for older versions, but maybe the feature has been
added?

I would like to colour the little folder icon for the first folder of a tree
to make these stand out.  Any way to do this in Bat! yet?

T.I.A.

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Moving Filters (and other filter questions)

2005-10-28 Thread John Phillips
Hi Bat! Fans,

1. I would like to move all my filters under one isp to Common filters.

Any way of doing this easily, without doing one by one?

2. Looking at a particular folder- any way to see which filter/s apply to
this folder?

3.  Can received mail filters be automatically applied to sent mail filters
as well?

4.  Can a list of filters be sorted to eliminate dupes or conflicts?


T.I.A.

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Re[2]: Editing header process

2005-10-28 Thread Marten Gallagher
 This could be associated with what I described in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 When you once give a bad import command to TB, it has to be closed
 before clearing the stack of commands and being able to import
 commands again.

OK _ finally sorted...

A) Re-starting TB everytime the filter is changed - necessary

B) Double quote marks round a USer with a space in it - BUT this cannot be 
pasted in - if
double quotes are pasted in to the filters then everything after the first 
quote is
dropped because TB automatically adds a double quote round the entire command 
string so:

TB starts by adding a double quote, pasting gets as far as the first quote 
actually in the
pasted line and drops the rest.

So you have to paste it without double quotes, then Edit the Action in TB 
filter edit
window and put the double quotes back in.

Single quotes do not work either in pasting or in the edited command line.

Now... all I want is for the system to stop and ask me where I want the 
imported file to
be sent? Any chance a variable and a question box be displayed?

There's a challenge for the w'end.

MANY MANY MANY THANKS to all who offered help BUT ESPECIALLY to Roelof Otten 
for his
patient and persistent assistance on the list and direct to me.

Hartstikke bedankt voor al je help, Roelof

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Re: Colouring folders in folder view pane

2005-10-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
John,

On 28-10-2005 10:24, you [JP] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
JP I would like to colour the little folder icon for the first folder
JP of a tree to make these stand out.  Any way to do this in Bat! yet?

Are you talking about the folders signifying an account? Then you need
a different icon set (or modify it yourself).

If it's a folder, e.g. Inbox, then the answer is the same. A quick and
dirty version is to make a colour group (with a background colour) and
apply it to the folder you want highlighted.

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Re: Moving Filters (and other filter questions)

2005-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo John,

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:25:32 +1000GMT (28-10-2005, 10:25 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

JP 1. I would like to move all my filters under one isp to Common filters.
JP Any way of doing this easily, without doing one by one?

When you've got no (or just a few) common filters, you could close TB
and move the account.srb file from the account directory to the mail
directory. (account.erb when OTFE is enabled)

JP 2. Looking at a particular folder- any way to see which filter/s apply to
JP this folder?

No

JP 3.  Can received mail filters be automatically applied to sent mail filters
JP as well?

No

JP 4.  Can a list of filters be sorted to eliminate dupes or conflicts?

No

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Re: Moving Filters (and other filter questions)

2005-10-28 Thread John Phillips
Hi Roelof,
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, at 15:06:35 [GMT+0200] (which was 23:06:35 Australian
Eastern Time) you wrote:

 When you've got no (or just a few) common filters, you could close TB
 and move the account.srb file from the account directory to the mail
 directory. (account.erb when OTFE is enabled)


Thanks for the prompt one!

I have 2 isp accounts; the filters need amalgamating.  I suppose no simple
way?

BTW what is OTFE?

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Re: Colouring folders in folder view pane

2005-10-28 Thread John Phillips
Hi Peter,
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, at 15:00:28 [GMT+0200] (which was 23:00:28 Australian
Eastern Time) you wrote:

 Are you talking about the folders signifying an account? Then you need
 a different icon set (or modify it yourself).

 If it's a folder, e.g. Inbox, then the answer is the same. A quick and
 dirty version is to make a colour group (with a background colour) and
 apply it to the folder you want highlighted.

Thanks for the reply.

I created a new colour group, and applied to the folder, nothing happened.

The folder is a root folder with no mail; ie an example is a folder called
Software, under which I have a folder for Bat, Microsoft, etc. etc.,  but
the actual software folder never gets mail itself.



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Re[2]: Colouring folders in folder view pane

2005-10-28 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello John,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 8:18:04 AM, you wrote:

JP I created a new colour group, and applied to the folder, nothing happened.

JP The folder is a root folder with no mail; ie an example is a folder called
JP Software, under which I have a folder for Bat, Microsoft, etc. etc.,  but
JP the actual software folder never gets mail itself.

Is  this a Common Folder. If so it should be possible to apply a color
group to it. If it is an Account then it is not possible.

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OTFE (was: Moving Filters (and other filter questions))

2005-10-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello John,

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:14:18 +1000 GMT (28/10/2005, 20:14 +0700 GMT),
John Phillips wrote:

JP BTW what is OTFE?

That's TB's proprietary on-the-fly encryption. It makes your
messages unreadable to anyone who doesn't know your password - or to
yourself, if you happen to have a problem with your TB.

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Re: Colouring folders in folder view pane

2005-10-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
John,

On 28-10-2005 15:18, you [JP] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
JP I created a new colour group, and applied to the folder, nothing
JP happened.

Hmm, if I select a folder and go right click  Colour Group  select
the colour group in question, it works here. Are you sure you have
given the colour group a background colour?

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Contact management...

2005-10-28 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Anybody has a few tips on how to manage contacts between different
programmes (TB, calendar, mobile phone directories)?

Any good software recommendation which work nicely together with TB?

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Re: Contact management...

2005-10-28 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Thorvald,

 Any good software recommendation which work nicely together with TB?

take a look at Mobile Master › http://www.mobile-master.de

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Re: Colouring folders in folder view pane

2005-10-28 Thread John Phillips
Hi Stuart,
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, at 08:30:43 [GMT-0500] (which was 23:30:43 Australian
Eastern Time) you wrote:

 Is  this a Common Folder. If so it should be possible to apply a color
 group to it. If it is an Account then it is not possible.


I am a bit confused (normal state of mind!) here.  It is a common folder,
and has a colour group set up against it, but it still appears the same!

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Re: Colouring folders in folder view pane

2005-10-28 Thread John Phillips
Hi Peter,
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, at 16:24:02 [GMT+0200] (which was Sat, 0:24:02
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:

 Are you sure you have
 given the colour group a background colour?


I seem to be missing this bit.  Where exactly is this?

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Re: Colouring folders in folder view pane

2005-10-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
John,

On 28-10-2005 21:26, you [JP] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
JP I seem to be missing this bit.  Where exactly is this?

I Manage colour groups, for each of the tabs you need to select a
Background colour.

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Re[2]: Disappering Header info

2005-10-28 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Friday, October 28, 2005, 7:14:22 AM, you wrote:


 Could it have something to do with this?

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 In 3.61.02 the headers are still not displayed in the preview pane
 under Windows 98 SE.

Looks likely!  Does Ritlabs have any documentation on this, or a
direct link for the download.  (The one offered no longer gives a
single choice.)

Thanks.

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