Re: unencrypted voyager base?
Mica wrote: S If Voyager can't be run unencrypted, can TB be run portable? The latter is probably more difficult, as The Bat! stores a lot of settings in the registry. But then, as we see with Voyager, this isn't impossible. For now I think, the easier way for RIT would be to allow to install Voyager without encryption. You can set and remove reg entries, before and after use of TB. Like with GnuPG, if you remember. Unfortunately, injecting registry entries isn't always possible. In some of the places I work at the registry is write protected, i.e., .reg files don't work, so only portable programs that truly don't rely on the registry can work. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
account.m_r
Hello TBUDL, How do you say account.m_r in OTFE? I had a corrupted Inbox in Voyager. Maintenance created a part???.bin file, which is useless, as it cannot be imported into Voyager. The Inbox itself is now empty. What I want to do now is trick Voyager into thinking that it has not downloaded any of the mails that are on the server. In TB, I guess I would just delete the account.m_r file (would that really work?), but in Voyager, I obviously have different file names. Or is there a wiki page? http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Program+Folders+and+Files shows only the file names for non-OTFE. -- Thanks, Thomas. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: account.m_r
Hi Thomas, on Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:21:22 +0700GMT (16.09.2006, 10:21 +0200GMT here), you wrote: TF What I want to do now is trick Voyager into thinking that it has not TF downloaded any of the mails that are on the server. In TB, I guess I TF would just delete the account.m_r file (would that really work?), but TF in Voyager, I obviously have different file names. How about using the Mail Dispatcher to show *all* messages? -- Cheers Peter Sign on a repair shop door: WE CAN REPAIR ANYTHING. (PLEASE KNOCK HARD ON THE DOOR - THE BELL DOESN'T WORK) Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: account.m_r
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:21:22 +0700GMT (16-9-2006, 10:21 , where I live), you wrote: TF How do you say account.m_r in OTFE? account.emr -- Groetjes, Roelof Sharewear (n.) -- Used clothing. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfMuQL6lrpy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: account.m_r
Hello Peter, On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:15:45 +0200 GMT (16/09/2006, 20:15 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: TF What I want to do now is trick Voyager into thinking that it has not TF downloaded any of the mails that are on the server. In TB, I guess I TF would just delete the account.m_r file (would that really work?), but TF in Voyager, I obviously have different file names. PM How about using the Mail Dispatcher to show *all* messages? That's an idea, why didn't I think of that? -- Cheers, Thomas. There are plenty of fish in the sea¡K well that¡Šs great for the fish. But I date humans. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: account.m_r
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:05:53 +0200 GMT (16/09/2006, 21:05 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF How do you say account.m_r in OTFE? RO account.emr Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Did you delete and icon labelled 'The Internet' from your computer? You did? Well, it will take years to restore the entire Internet; in the meantime, the F.B.I. would like to have a word with you. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unencrypted voyager base?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 15 Sep 2006, @ @ at 23:06:39 -0700 (PDT), when SGP wrote: You can set and remove reg entries, before and after use of TB. Like with GnuPG, if you remember. Unfortunately, injecting registry entries isn't always possible. In some of the places I work at the registry is write protected, i.e., .reg files don't work, so only portable programs that truly don't rely on the registry can work. It is true indeed, so would be much better if for such things would be simply used an .ini file instead, dwelling in the program folder. The connection with Registry complicates things without real need. (Moving settings to INI file would be a masterstroke.) * Then, there is another solution even for that, but...it is a wee bit more than unusual. Namely to put TBat on a bootable small Linux CD (where TB is installed via Wine) with supported a RAM drive (of some 64 MB or even more if needed), and all the work could be done without touching HDDs, and even in a machine with no any hard drive[s]. All the work (send/receive) would be done via the RAM disk, then the mail folders burnt to a CD-RW (or copied to floppy), and that would be it. It might sound somewhat complicated, but is feasible. Just depends on how far someone would want to go (in this what I would call a relative madness). - -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRQv1Z7SpHvHEUtv8AQhFKwf+KhUxYEgKS4W3Ht3lMZf3TQPr/Gn4eBp6 YEd03kqol40+z2Pp1YiBB1oDNMMcYdoz7MKLN3DyBYGrOP4famV77Pu8pwulBnSn gwe5krHQwYzbwn9g+/wv5LR3GrhCFKfA4CfjftjVDrhFNvVcaXZp86F3EcAwrfoc XEW5LANwM5zltrypnLExa0LwBdPF+szPTgT9l9wgO/YiL6GSiyPPvgRdbKQOMDH1 LC/6Y4MsijXrLTw/NT5Ay05wFPPqlqnVcyfrk8qpA+0UjqvzZtiEasDIq7/nhxb5 JjZiu+vJENvmbiikUrEIBcAqj/KIE2MsJwe4bakC3HbFXjQCCNoj8A== =VWGn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Maintenance - getting rid of deleted messages fromvariousfolders ... they seem to be stuck, for lack of a better word
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~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 15 Sep 2006,
@ @ at 17:34:46 -0400, when subscriber2list wrote:
Aaaah Mica, my fine friend with whom I have not bantered with in years
In years already? It's deterrent sometimes how quickly time passes.
I am for years on this list?!
See, Mica ... you can teach An Old Dog New Tricks! I tried your
suggestion with another stubborn folder of sorts and it ... worked!
Thanks for the inspiration.
You're welcome. Everything that passes through Inbox on its way to other
folders, anyway _remains_ in Inbox, until it's compressed.
With Outbox and Trash folder is similar.
All of that is easily overlooked until man (but woman too) experiences a
strange problem in TB's work and then gets into learning why is so.
Please keep up your fine ruminations as I enjoy reading your ...
advice and sometimes ... utterances. LOL! You sure you're not a
stand-up comic somewhere on that side of the pond?
You believe me or not, I just bring to the end the consequences of what
I hear/read around. No single thought of that is my own.
This is the way for me to amuse myself, for the computing stuff is
exceptionally boring, at least to me, with all this tweaking and reading
the fine manuals, and Mañuelas.
On the other hand, the things has to be done, and hence the tweaking
is unavoidable, so if you have to pass through all this hassle, then is
better to smile, even hysterically. I recon.
(When someone makes some unnecessary complicated, or better said
disarranged software, with which I have to work, the first sweet impulse
of mine is to bite into his/her neck to check if s/he is diabetic or
not.)
Apart from that, I have inborn very strong sat{y|i}ric traits, so that
many feel much better if I am simply just angry with them than when I
start to tease them.
I don't think I would earn a cent being comic, but again I really am
convinced that I could destroy someone just by teasing him/her. I was
watching my victims, had seen them after, and I know what I am talking
about. So, maybe as an atypical hit man. (=8
Why on the earth someone would have been be asked always anew at startup
is some application default one or not? If someone needs it to be
default or not, s/he will simply set this piece of software this way,
somewhere in its settings.
- --
Mica
~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given
in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~
GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/
http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/
[Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing]
OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium
Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine
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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?
Hi On Sunday 10 September 2006 at 8:55:49 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanne wrote: Do I have to go back to NAV? Entirely up to you. Never used NAV but heard plenty bad stories about it. Could not get on with AVG but my sister loves it. Nod32 came highly recommended, requires no plugin, works well for me (although its scanning slows the system noticeably). -- Best regards, MFPA Keep them dry and don't feed them after midnight Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Confused!!!
Hi On Tuesday 12 September 2006 at 11:30:15 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Anson wrote: I'm running TB! v3.85.01, and when I check for updates, I am told there are no updates available! When I check the message is you have the latest version but mine is 3.80.06 -- Best regards, MFPA Ultimate consistency lies in being consistently inconsistent Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug: AV
Hi On Wednesday 13 September 2006 at 7:19:32 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Fjelsten wrote: I get these on exiting: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00883959 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address . --- OK --- I get these AVs apparently randomly (sometimes on starting or closing TB! and sometimes coincident with failed PGP operations or sending/receiving messages). Usually infrequent but occasionally enough to make TB! virtually useless for a few hours to a couple of days. -- Best regards, MFPA Always borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [n]
Hi On Wednesday 13 September 2006 at 11:38:54 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Terry Munson wrote: Account/properties/reply/use reply numbering in subject or %SingleRe in reply templates as required -- Best regards, MFPA The second mouse gets the cheese Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Maintenance - getting rid of deleted messages from various folders ... they seem to be stuck, for lack of a better word
Hi On Friday 15 September 2006 at 3:38:13 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: Deleting a message in a folder is just setting flag which tells TB not to display them. to actually get them deleted from the database, you need to compress. That's the way it works. It would be good if the compress on exit option in folder properties achieved this. -- Best regards, MFPA Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 16 Sep 2006, @ @ at 22:18:16 +0100, when MFPA wrote: On Sunday 10 September 2006 at 8:55:49 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanne wrote: Do I have to go back to NAV? Entirely up to you. Never used NAV but heard plenty bad stories about it. Could not get on with AVG but my sister loves it. Nod32 came highly recommended, requires no plugin, works well for me (although its scanning slows the system noticeably). And while I am still in the mood to give some help around... AntiVir doesn't need any plug-in too (so you don't have to bother yourself with it, and related problems), for it will check all and everything dealing in any way with the machine (http, ftp, mail, `ordinary' files and so off). It is free (like in `free beer') for personal use. It is (now) faster than NOD32, and slows nothing down. If a `bad' mail is trying to enter, AntiVir will block this particular message (no entire message base will be blocked) and will ask you what to do with it. When it is solved it will allow further download of the mail. Internet update is very fast. You just have to download new whole version every 5 or six months, since this is the period of time the (free) licence is valid. The file is about 12 MB. It is very easy for handling, easier than AVG and many other AV programs. Once you set it up, you forget it. Silent and dangerous. Very good for beginners, but for much more experienced ones too. The home page is... I can't recall and there anyway is nothing special on it. Full name of the program is Avira AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic. Direct link for download is: http://dl7.avgate.net/down/windows/antivir_workstation_win7_en_h.exe It has a nice red umbrella, that can be open and closed, squatting on the system's tray. (I'd prefer a dark yellow, but whatever...) Happy anti virusing. - -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRQx7SrSpHvHEUtv8AQjMLwgAnyfcYEmfe8v+JXzInbyoDBySWQoZLpej 5n+wyr3/THztTKe3UxfDk1ISQgFCdj+VgmUfgvIiE4jpCZfkbnPMTzU9KJJUZchR MOli23WGjhM9JtK9g7uKEf92mqMXWy9yQqFvpPoUL5vhyiNlGs/sksQCKr9ZnyHf KblxHou2XdSc6z+tUCVBPI0hyVNdy6D3CiqdVn4xUh50OzUw0CcqhKM2aa5PJVaO pDdyH+FaX6ESbCxmbD9LZvVaNpE86uk9mHKcgLwUARuAFcXV4JSjhbcWM4vxAqJ7 qoV0bw1qJ8liwi57/opsqZnkdxo7aN1pAD/4LgVr/FqUXJhrmibCDg== =ML9h -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Maintenance - getting rid of deleted messages from various folders ... they seem to be stuck, for lack of a better word
Hello MFPA, On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:27:54 +0100 GMT (17/09/2006, 05:27 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Deleting a message in a folder is just setting flag which tells TB not to display them. to actually get them deleted from the database, you need to compress. That's the way it works. M It would be good if the compress on exit option in folder M properties achieved this. It does. Alas, compressing takes 20 minutes over on my office computer with almost 200,000 mails in over 100 folders, I'd rather do it manually. Usually in the lunch break, as in the evening when I shut down TB and the rest of my computer, I just want to go home. I don't recommend using compress on exit to anyone, but maybe you have faster computers on your side of the Globe. -- Cheers, Thomas. Once you've seen a shopping center, you've seen a mall. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
