Re: Voyager re-install problem

2006-12-12 Thread Gerrit Kiers
Hello Richard,

Tuesday, December 12, 2006, 12:00:10 AM, you wrote:

GK My token serial number was like FAT- (can be FAT32-)

RW Where do you find that? All I got was the activation key, nothing about
RW a token serial number. In fact I'd never heard of the need for a token
RW before I had the trouble today.

You'll find it mentioned in the window popping up when activating.

RW By the way, is the token the same as the activation key? I'm a bit
RW lost here.

Yes, that is how I would use it referring to the long string that the
Ritlabs web site gives you at activation. I mentioned token serial
number as well referring to a string that Voyager generates and is
unique to your USB stick.

RW That might be the problem. I reactivated with a new activation
RW key.

Unfortunately this actually means that I am at loss with what is your
problem. Since my guess of what is going on with your installation was
based on assuming your serial serial number was altered.

RW Big problem. As I've said, I didn't save the original activation
RW key. :-(  But then I didn't either of my USB sticks.

No problem at all. I offered you a hack. Surely the way I go about
this is not the recommended way for any normal installation. It gives
you the possibility to reinstall Voyager on the USB stick even after
you formatted it without using a new reactivation.

RW Usage: volumeid driveletter:-

A simple command DIR driveletter: at the command prompt will reveal
this number

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Re: Voyager re-install problem

2006-12-12 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Gerrit,

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

GK You'll find it mentioned in the window popping up when activating.

Only after a fresh install unfortunately :-(

GK Unfortunately this actually means that I am at loss with what is
GK your problem. Since my guess of what is going on with your
GK installation was based on assuming your serial serial number was
GK altered.

Well, the funny thing is that, each time I reinstall Voyager from
scratch (three times now) I still get told I have 4 activation keys
left, even though each one is different. Strange.

GK No problem at all. I offered you a hack

And I tried it thanks, but with no success.

GK A simple command DIR driveletter: at the command prompt will
GK reveal this number

Yup, got that but was then told that volumeid is not a valid command
so that was me scuppered!! Not my lucky day. Thanks a bunch for your
help though, even though it's not, at the moment, getting me anywhere
:-(

I really can't understand why, with a freshly formatted USB stick, I
can't just install Voyager, put in my TB! Pro reg number, get the
relevant activation key and off I go Surely that's how it *should*
work?

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Re: Voyager re-install problem

2006-12-12 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Richard,

on Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:22:28 +0100GMT (12.12.2006, 10:22 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

GK A simple command DIR driveletter: at the command prompt will
GK reveal this number

RW Yup, got that but was then told that volumeid is not a valid command

For volumeid to work, you must unzip/copy the volumeid.exe to your
system32 folder. Then you can use it from the command prompt.

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Re: Voyager re-install problem

2006-12-12 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Peter,

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PM For volumeid to work, you must unzip/copy the volumeid.exe to your
PM system32 folder. Then you can use it from the command prompt.

Thanks  for that but, although it worked this time, there's still no
difference to the situation regarding Voyager and my USB stick. I still
get the same message :-(

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Mein PGP-Schlüssel / My PGP-Key

2006-12-12 Thread Roland Burger
Hi Peter,

as requested, you receive my PGP-Key attached to this message.

- -
Fingerprint:
973A D990 361B B09D 49CB 2BA4 4DF4 A8C1 92A0 5704

Key-ID:
0x92A05704
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Hallo Peter,

wie gewünscht, erhältst Du mit dieser Nachricht meinen PGP-Schlüssel.

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Re: Voyager re-install problem

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gerrit,

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:12:15 +0100 GMT (12/12/2006, 15:12 +0700 GMT),
Gerrit Kiers wrote:

GK A simple command DIR driveletter: at the command prompt will reveal
GK this number

Interesting. I did this with the driveletter of my USB stick, and the
volume serial number is -. I never touched this. Is this
normal?

It's a real SONY product, from a real SONY shop and the price was
pretty real too (not really pretty).

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Re: Updating TB!

2006-12-12 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Wednesday 6 December 2006 at 6:54:16 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz
wrote:

 You need to do that whatever check for some of the
 downloads. The check is done either with an ActiveX control in IE, or
 with a stand-alone program when you're using other browsers. Always
 worked for me.

Does that mean somebody who had Windows with IE removed could get
their updates from M$ instead of from a third party like
http://windizupdate.com/ ?

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Re: Updating TB! - Knoppix on HDD, Wine and pretas, ghouls and other monsters

2006-12-12 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Friday 8 December 2006 at 2:49:10 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mica Mijatovic wrote:

 This schema with three main partitions (OS | Programs | Data/Documents)
 is the best/safest way. Many professionals find it as best solution too.
 Often is done further division of the Data as well (e.g. private,
 business etc.).

I have seen advocated partitions for TEMP and Archive in addition
to those three, although I suppose Archive is just another example
of a further division of Data.

Out of interest (and at the risk of moving too far off-topic),
what are the arguments either way between using partitions or
physical drives?

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Re: Google Mail

2006-12-12 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Wednesday 6 December 2006 at 7:07:32 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roland Burger wrote:


 Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA
 

 I have it also there!

 three of VeriSign, Inc. Class 3 Public Primary Certification
 Authority entries. Do you have these?

 I have two of these!

Don't know if that was relevant but it was a thought...

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Re: Mein PGP-Schlüssel / My PGP-Key

2006-12-12 Thread Roland Burger
Hi Roland,

on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 at 15:34 you wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
among others:


 Hi Peter,

 as requested, you receive my PGP-Key attached to this message.

Sorry! The message from Peter to the mailinglist was filtered in the wrong 
folder. Therefore this message was automatically sent!


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Re: Updating TB!

2006-12-12 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MFPA  everyone else,

on 12-Dez-2006 at 15:51 you (MFPA) wrote:

 You need to do that whatever check for some of the downloads. The
 check is done either with an ActiveX control in IE, or with a
 stand-alone program when you're using other browsers. Always worked
 for me.

 Does that mean somebody who had Windows with IE removed could get
 their updates from M$ instead of from a third party like
 http://windizupdate.com/ ?

No. The Windows Genuine Advantage check has nothing to do with Windows
Updates. You (still) get the critical security updates without the WGA
check.

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Re: K9 behavior

2006-12-12 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Jack S. LaRosa  everyone else,

on 12-Dez-2006 at 00:56 you (Jack S. LaRosa) wrote:

 The problem (which only recently started) occurs when My wife selects
 herself from the Win logon screen. 

ASK Are you logged off then, or are you using fast user switching?

 I am logged off. I seldom use fast user switching because if I remain
 logged on and simply switch users, K9 won't even start when she logs
 on. You get some kind of error message whose text I can't remember
 right now. Apparently K9 can be used by only one user at a time.

Thats why I was asking, but since you're aware of it and this isn't the
problem, I have no clue whats going on, sorry.

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Re: Voyager re-install problem

2006-12-12 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas,

on Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:39:37 +0700GMT (12.12.2006, 15:39 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

TF On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:12:15 +0100 GMT (12/12/2006, 15:12 +0700 GMT),
TF Gerrit Kiers wrote:

GK A simple command DIR driveletter: at the command prompt will reveal
GK this number

TF Interesting. I did this with the driveletter of my USB stick, and the
TF volume serial number is -. I never touched this. Is this
TF normal?

I think so. At least, it is the same with my no-name 128 MB stick
here. When I once formatted it, it got another hex number, but for
Voyager's sake I changed it back. :)

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Re: Updating TB! - Knoppix on HDD, Wine and pretas, ghouls and other monsters

2006-12-12 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Tue, 12 Dec 2006,
   @  @  at 15:09:59 +, when MFPA wrote:

 This schema with three main partitions (OS | Programs |
 Data/Documents) is the best/safest way. Many professionals find it as
 best solution too. Often is done further division of the Data as well
 (e.g. private, business etc.).

 I have seen advocated partitions for TEMP and Archive in addition to
 those three, although I suppose Archive is just another example of a
 further division of Data.

Yes, they do that too, and in various ways. Basically, the entire
administration can be (and indeed is, by more advanced, demanding,
weird users) divided into much more specialized sectors, and perhaps
best example is the quite classical Linux/Unix strategy. There you can
see that it by default has several (6-7) main partitions...

/bin # programs coming with OS itself and shared by all users
/etc # OS settings and related tools
/home# place for (non-root) users
/root# for the boss and his/her privileged secrets and tricks
/tmp
/usr # for programs installed and shared by users

...and so on.

   This of course is not the case with modern Linux installations
   that imitate the Windows, installing all on just one single
   partition, in order to make it for the users accustomed to
   Windows easier to manage.

Also, there are users who in Windows, in return, apply exactly the rules
and habits found in the classic Linux, making thus separate dedicated
partitions for, as you have mentioned, TEMP, Archive, Documents and so
on, and changing the system variables to point to these partitions
accordingly, instead to the default addresses.

 Out of interest (and at the risk of moving too far off-topic), what
 are the arguments either way between using partitions or physical
 drives?

This part is not clear to me. I will suppose that by drives you here
mean actually hard disk, in contrast to the part of it, partition
(since drive and partition are most frequently used as synonyms)?

If yes, then there is no any significant difference, for the goal is
same: to keep various types of data separated, and thus to provide more
security/safety for them. (If OS kicks the bucket, the Documents will
remain unaffected and so forth.)

In particular situations, it's even better to keep your Documents on
separate hard disk, since this way they are even more isolated from the
rest, and if it is even a portable, USB and so on hard disk, then even
better - anyone who would by a chance access your machine, wouldn't find
any data on it except the OS and usual programs, so couldn't screw
something up, be that intentionally or not.

And it is all actually very much on topic too, since it can be applied
to mail administration as well: separate partition, or even hard disk,
for the mail only, or even two or more partitions, for various types of
mail - private, business and so on.

Then, it is much less risky if you encrypt just individual partition
then the entire hard disk.

So, this division into partitions, and even the use of dedicated hard
disks, is very useful and practical thing and can be applied in many
various situations.

We of course are forced to learn this and similar things usually not
until having undergone some loss of (valuable) data, so that actually a
certain pain is our stimulator much rather than a fancy wish to be a
geeks. g

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