Re: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation
Hello Kelvin, Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 8:20:58 PM, you wrote: > snip > I notice that when new replies come into a thread, The Bat doesn't > automatically push the entire thread to the top. This is so even when > I sort messages according to "Received" time. > snip You can change your default View Mode for all folders or create a custom view mode for selected folders with the properties of Thread By = Subject Sort By = Received This should suffice I think :) -- Best regards, Danmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgppEDCDa4lu4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test
Hello Baphomet, On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 you wrote in Sorry, no sig delimiter! -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.10 beta with POP3 account & AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: TB! still has negative image)
Dear Roelof, > Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists > of a , i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. > This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without > the signature and list footers since everything below and including > the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. Hopefully this will work then :-) Best regards, Loek van Kooten -- Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-71-5128026 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Reg.no. Chamber of Commerce: 28066372 IMPORTANT: All delivery dates stated in quotes are as of the moment the quote was sent and can change as soon as other projects come in. BELANGRIJK: Bij alle leveringsdata in offertes gaan we uit van de agenda op dat moment. De data kunnen wijzigen zodra er andere projecten binnenkomen. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Test
Sorry, Test mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation
Hello, I notice that when new replies come into a thread, The Bat doesn't automatically push the entire thread to the top. This is so even when I sort messages according to "Received" time. This behaviour is typical if you use the gmail webinterface. It is very useful because not only you can see the threading, your attention is also brought to threads where *new* replies have been made to it as the message is pushed up to the top. When I use the default TB behaviour, I keep missing new replies to old threads - so much so that I now have a virtual folder that picks out messages that are less than a day old and displays them in the unthreaded form. So what counterintuitive, I would say. Does anyone have a way out of this? Thanks. -- Best regards, Kelvin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: TB! still has negative image)
Hallo Loek, On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:54:26 +0100GMT (14-12-2006, 0:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LVK> I'm new to this list, Welcome. However, you're message is breaking a list rule, hence thos reply. Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Loek. )<)))'> Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a , i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Challenge AND direction! A moderator's job is never ending. :) pgpKIOd3sfrHl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Dear all, > How do we fight the negative image? > What is the best response? I'm new to this list, but let me give my opinion anyway. The first thing I would do is improve the communication with my user base - it seems to take one month on the average until the developers of The Bat! actually respond to support requests (my request has been waiting for 5 days without any boo or bah - which I find unacceptable considering I've paid for this thing). The same applies to communication with the world outside: the only posting on the forums I've seen from Ritlabs is one announcement about the newest version of The Bat!. With a communication strategy like that, it will be impossible to get any word out, about anything. Best regards, Loek van Kooten Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-71-5128026 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Reg.no. Chamber of Commerce: 28066372 IMPORTANT: All delivery dates stated in quotes are as of the moment the quote was sent and can change as soon as other projects come in. BELANGRIJK: Bij alle leveringsdata in offertes gaan we uit van de agenda op dat moment. De data kunnen wijzigen zodra er andere projecten binnenkomen. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Dear A, @14-Dec-2006, 00:36 +0100 (13-Dec 23:36 here) A.Translator [AT] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... AT> "Beware: TheBat! is well-known as a spammer's mailer (even if the AT> spammers just fake headers from TheBat!) and it's often blocked." ... AT> How do we fight the negative image? Education... AT> What is the best response? Give them this URL: http://www.ritlabs.com/ru/products/thebat/advice_detail.php?ID=189 -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.86.8 ALPHA (beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp3IT0qKdwRX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! still has negative image
Today I posted a message in comp.lang.php about a php form question. It had to do with how mail client like TB or OE react to my form. To my horror and surprise, the first respons I got mentioned this: "Beware: TheBat! is well-known as a spammer's mailer (even if the spammers just fake headers from TheBat!) and it's often blocked." I know about that issue, but was alarmed that someone felt he had to warn me. How do we fight the negative image? What is the best response? -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager re-install problem
Hello Gerrit, On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 you wrote in GK> No problem at all. I offered you a hack. Surely the way I go about GK> this is not the recommended way for any normal installation. It gives GK> you the possibility to reinstall Voyager on the USB stick even after GK> you formatted it without using a new reactivation. I've finally got it working, but only with version 3.63.2 beta. If I try any later versions I get the same dialogue box. At least I've got a working Voyager on a USB stick to take on holiday with me next week. It'd be nice to have the up to date version and I'd love to know what they did differently between the two versions that I can't just install the new straight over the old any more - well, I can't install it at all can I! ;-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.8 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account & AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Updating TB! - Knoppix on HDD, Wine and pretas, ghouls and other monsters)
Hallo Jernej, On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:08:51 +0100GMT (13-12-2006, 10:08 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JS> Modern Linux distributions let you do as you please. For a typical home Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Jernej. )<)))'> This topic has gone way "off" / too long / too heated and I am forced to pronounce it dead in fairness to the purpose and other members of the list. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof If ignorance is bliss, Moderators must be >very< happy! pgpqdLZOTJfWv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating TB! - Knoppix on HDD, Wine and pretas, ghouls and other monsters
On Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 0:55:22, Mica Mijatovic wrote: > Yes, they do that too, and in various ways. Basically, the entire > "administration" can be (and indeed is, by more advanced, "demanding", > "weird" users) divided into much more specialized sectors, and perhaps > best example is the quite "classical" Linux/Unix strategy. There you can > see that it by default has several (6-7) main partitions... > /bin # programs coming with OS itself and shared by all users > /etc # OS settings and related tools > /home# place for (non-root) users > /root# for the "boss" and his/her privileged secrets and tricks > /tmp > /usr # for programs installed and shared by users This is actually wrong - of these only /home, /tmp and /usr can be on a separate partition. /bin, /etc, /sbin must always be on the root partition, or the system won't boot (/root can be on a separate partition, but you'll have problems if you ever need to boot to single-user mode; also, the typical /root directory is so small it doesn't make sense to waste space by using a separate partition for it). >This of course is not the case with "modern" Linux installations >that imitate the Windows, installing all on just one single >partition, in order to make it for the users accustomed to >Windows easier to manage. Modern Linux distributions let you do as you please. For a typical home user, there's no point in using more than two partitions (/ and swap), and it makes it much easier to manage the system. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ > In any household, junk accumulates to fill the space available for its storage. -- Boston's Irreversible Law of Clutter Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
