Re: TB! still has negative image
Hallo Robin, On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:45:37 +1100GMT (15-12-2006, 3:45 , where I live), you wrote: RA I have a text file (called synonyms.txt) of synonyms for the bat in RA various languages in my mail directory. It contains the following RA lines: Why so many duplicates between them? -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: written entirely by and for blondes http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.10 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp93vMBTTMN4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
On Thursday, December 14, 2006 Chris W. wrote: I have this in my default templates: %SetHeader(User-agent,RITLABS Mailer v%THEBATVERSION)%- I also have the User-agent header configured in Option - Preferences - Messages - Message Headers How did you configure the message header? It doesn't work here. Best regards, Maik -- Ad omnia alia aetate sapimus rectius, / solum unum hoc vitium affert senectus hominibus: / attentiores sumus ad rem omnes quam sat est. [Terentius, Adelphoe 832-834] Using The Bat! v3.86.10 beta (on-the-fly-encryption by eToken) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hallo Maik, On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:18:07 +0100GMT (15-12-2006, 9:18 , where I live), you wrote: I have this in my default templates: %SetHeader(User-agent,RITLABS Mailer v%THEBATVERSION)%- I also have the User-agent header configured in Option - Preferences - Messages - Message Headers ML How did you configure the message header? It doesn't ML work here. You've got to define the User-agent header at Option - Preferences - Messages - Message Headers Attached you find my settings for this header. And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There isn't much more to explain on this subject. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, vidi, vacuum, (I came, I saw--nothing.) http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.10 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpVaLBrb3l70.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hallo Roelof, On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:23:58 +0100GMT (15-12-2006, 10:23 , where I live), you wrote: RO Attached you find my settings for this header. Somehow the picture got stripped by the server, the settings are: Display as: Mailer RFC name:User-Agent Check: Allow to edit this field in the Message Editor Uncheck the other two options. -- Groetjes, Roelof Sharewear (n.) -- Used clothing. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.86.10 beta Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp3seQPObVx2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hello Roelof! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 3:23 AM, you wrote: ML How did you configure the message header? It doesn't ML work here. You've got to define the User-agent header at Option - Preferences - Messages - Message Headers Attached you find my settings for this header. And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There isn't much more to explain on this subject. Roelof, I guess it slipped your mind that TBUDL doesn't allow attachments? Only TBBETA? I did mine by following my X-Rogue pattern: 1) In Options/Preferences/Messages/Message Headers I clicked on Add. 2) In the window that came up I typed in User-agent in both fields. 3) I checked Allow to edit this field in the Message Editor and Display the field on the scrollable part of the header pane. I left the other option unchecked. 4) In Account/Properties/Templates I copied-pasted for each of the message templates: %SetHeader(User-agent,RITLABS Mailer v%THEBATVERSION)%- 5) I put the same line for my Address Book templates, which over-ride the Default Account templates, of course. It's working for me, I think. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! still has negative image
Hi Mary, On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 4:48:10 AM you wrote: And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There isn't much more to explain on this subject. Roelof, I guess it slipped your mind that TBUDL doesn't allow attachments? Only TBBETA? I did mine by following my X-Rogue pattern: With a library you are free, not confined by temporary political climates. -- Regards, Maggie How quick come the reasons for approving what we like! -Jane Austen Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB! still has negative image
Hi Maggie, On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 6:06:51 AM you wrote: Hi Mary, On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 4:48:10 AM you wrote: And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There isn't much more to explain on this subject. Roelof, I guess it slipped your mind that TBUDL doesn't allow attachments? Only TBBETA? I did mine by following my X-Rogue pattern: With a library you are free, not confined by temporary political climates. That was supposed to be a 'thank you, Mary', not a stray cookie! I think it's working here now. -- Regards, Maggie Even when laws have been written down, they ought not always to remain unaltered. -Aristotle Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hello Maggie! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 5:18 AM, you wrote: And then you use the %SetHeader macro to define its value. There isn't much more to explain on this subject. Roelof, I guess it slipped your mind that TBUDL doesn't allow attachments? Only TBBETA? I did mine by following my X-Rogue pattern: ... MM's Cookie With a library you are free, not confined by temporary MM's Cookie political climates. That was supposed to be a 'thank you, Mary', not a stray cookie! I think it's working here now. :) I'm so glad. Feels like the old days, a bit, to me, when we were beta-testing X-Rogue on TBOT. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
On Friday, December 15, 2006 Roelof Otten wrote: Display as: Mailer RFC name:User-Agent Check: Allow to edit this field in the Message Editor o.k., I didn't activate this option Uncheck the other two options. Now it works fine, thank you, Roelof! Best regards, Maik -- Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. [Cato maior] Using The Bat! v3.86.10 beta (on-the-fly-encryption by eToken) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hi Roelof, Display as: Mailer RFC name:User-Agent Check: Allow to edit this field in the Message Editor Uncheck the other two options. I can't check the first two options. (They're lightgrey). what do I have to do to get be able to edit it? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.86.10 beta under XP Pro, SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connecvtion Center hangs
Hello tbudl, Starting yesterday, my copy of TB! seems to hang with the Connection Center active. That is, it never closes down after checking my two accounts for new traffic. It does bring in all the messages, and I'm able to filter them properly, but it never finishes its tasks. When I attempt to quit TB!, I get the warning box that tasks are still active, and the Abort button does nothing to force an exit. My backup strategy, using an external backup program, requires that I shut down TB! before the backup program runs. Last night I used the Terminate application capability of TaskInfo to force the shutdown but I'm concerned that this may leave TB! databases in some undefined state and make things worse. Any ideas? -- Jim Kyle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connecvtion Center hangs
Hello Jim! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 7:22 AM, you wrote: Starting yesterday, my copy of TB! seems to hang with the Connection Center active. That is, it never closes down after checking my two accounts for new traffic. Try enabling, by putting a tick in the box, Show all messages left on the server in Account/Properties/Mail Management/Message Dispatcher. Also, check Autmatically invoke at each mail check under Message Dispatcher. Then have a look on the Message Dispatcher to see if there is an old message which is not being deleted. If there are new messages, temporarily toggle Receive off for them. Then one by one choose delete until all undeleted old messages are deleted. This has worked for me, in the past. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! still has negative image
Hi Mary, On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 7:30:13 AM you wrote: I think it's working here now. I'm so glad. Feels like the old days, a bit, to me, when we were beta-testing X-Rogue on TBOT. :banana: I wonder why it would be necessary to copy the macro to the address book templates? Those people would be used to receiving mail from you, so their systems wouldn't choke on TB!, yes? -- Regards, Maggie Technology is merely mankind's method of mimicking the metaphysical. Daniel Will-Harris http://frickingenius.blogspot.com/ ___ Using TB! 3.85.03 on WinXP Media SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connecvtion Center hangs
A re-boot seems to have cleared up the problem, but I made the changes you suggest to both accounts just in case it might happen again. Many thanks! -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hello Maggie! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 7:37 AM, you wrote: I wonder why it would be necessary to copy the macro to the address book templates? Those people would be used to receiving mail from you, so their systems wouldn't choke on TB!, yes? Was just an extra precaution--in case their IP or ISP suddenly decided to get aggressive about filtering Spam, the way Comcast.net did recently. Not hard to do if you're using a Quick Template called with the Qinclude macro. One by one, manually, I admit it's a bit time-consuming. And as you say, likely unnecessary, anyway. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connecvtion Center hangs
Hello Jim! On Friday, December 15, 2006, 7:41 AM, you wrote: A re-boot seems to have cleared up the problem, but I made the changes you suggest to both accounts just in case it might happen again. Many thanks! You're welcome. And thanks for the good news that a re-boot seems to have taken care of the problem. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.10 beta on Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! still has negative image
Hi Mary, On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 8:44:13 AM you wrote: I wonder why it would be necessary to copy the macro to the address book templates? Those people would be used to receiving mail from you, so their systems wouldn't choke on TB!, yes? Was just an extra precaution--in case their IP or ISP suddenly decided to get aggressive about filtering Spam, the way Comcast.net did recently. OK, yes, I understand now. Not hard to do if you're using a Quick Template called with the Qinclude macro. Terra incognita here. One by one, manually, I admit it's a bit time-consuming. Well, that is the reason why I looked for an excuse to not do them... And as you say, likely unnecessary, anyway. :) Hope so, and thanks again for the clarification. -- Regards, Maggie But where is it written that all our dreams must be small ones? Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! still has negative image
RA I have a text file (called synonyms.txt) of synonyms for the bat in RA various languages in my mail directory. It contains the following RA lines: RO Why so many duplicates between them? I have several TXT files for cookies, tips, etc with duplicates of lines which I'd like to see repeated more often than the rest. -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends. - Herbert Hoover Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hi On Friday 15 December 2006 at 2:19:03 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Maggie Meister wrote: Hi Mary, On Friday, 15 December, 2006 at 8:44:13 AM you wrote: I wonder why it would be necessary to copy the macro to the address book templates? Those people would be used to receiving mail from you, so their systems wouldn't choke on TB!, yes? Was just an extra precaution--in case their IP or ISP suddenly decided to get aggressive about filtering Spam, the way Comcast.net did recently. Why does simply turning off the x-mailer header resolve this? ... Not hard to do if you're using a Quick Template called with the Qinclude macro. Or even QT if you can't be bothered to type include. -- Best regards, MFPA Change is inevitable except from a vending machine Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 at 09:34:26 +0100, Roelof wrote: Why so many duplicates between them? I like to see some of them more frequently. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 at 10:16:16 +1100, Tom wrote: Wow, this topic has had a fast response. One question though - are you all using this method? I have been using TB for about 2 years (only) and am not aware of any problems. Perhaps I am just lucky but should this header masking be done by default or only if problems become apparent? It is really a risk management strategy. I never encountered any problems with mail being rejected as spam because of my mail header, but I didn't want to risk it. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
